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SALPARADISE · « **Reply #1460 on:** April 06, 2006, 18:47:29 »

Πάντως πολυ πιο εύκολα τη χαλούσαν τη δουλειά ο Κατσαρής σε συνεργασία με το μετρολάκη και έναν αταγωνιστή επενδυτή??

Γιατί δηλαδή ο κατσαρής να βοηθήσει κάποιον που θα τον βγάλει απ' το παιχνιδι τη στιγμή που μπορεί ΗΔΗ να έχει βρεί έναν επιχειρηματία που θα στηρίξει το ψηφοδέλτιό του στις εκλογές και θα του δώσει αυτός το γήπεδο στην ίδια συνεδρίαση και όλα μέλι-γάλα??

xalllara4 · « **Reply #1461 on:** April 06, 2006, 18:57:05 »

Quote from: agraf on April 06, 2006, 18:25:43

Quote from: xalllara4 on April 06, 2006, 17:11:01

De kseroume ti theloume, oi dimosiografoi poulane filla, o PAOK mas MONO xanei, ki oloi oi paokarxes gelane kai pinoun ouza...

PS aporia: o erasitexnis einai dinaton na min pei nai se kainourio gipedo sto neo agorasti, ti stigmi pou o neos agorastis ama eina mporei na to kanei ALLOU kai na karpwnetai to 100% tis ekmettalefsis tou?

An einai toso efkolo giati mas ehoun zalisei kai den pane oloi aftoi oi pefwtismenoi epiheirimaties-paragontes na ftiaksoun allou to kainourgio gipedo san mia morfi ependisis.
Opws ftiahnoun kapoies etaireies grafeia kai meta vgazoun mia pinakida kai lene: "Enoikiazetai to paron".

As to kanoun afou ehoun ta kondilia, to know-how, to busines kai project plan, to value for for money kai an mas simferei as pame na paiksoume ekei.

As to ftiaksoun opws theloun , oso megalo theloun, as valoun osa katastimata theloun kai as to htisoun opou theloun. Sto telos na merthoun kai na mas poun toso kostizei to miniaio enoikio.

As analavoun omws kai aftoi (Savvidi, Goumenos, Pswmiadis i opws alliws thelei na legetai) kai ligo risko...Giati aftoi theloun na paroun tin oikopedara, na gkremisoun tin Toumpa kai stin thesi tis na htisoun ena gipedo sto opoio tha sirthoume giati tha einai i moni epilogi mas. Me aplla logia tha eimaste demenoi heiropodara. Tha mas fortwsoun mia aidia pou tha einai emporiko kentro me ligo podosfairo (den einai dika mou logia) kai tha vgaloume to skasmo.

Einai toso diskolo na to katalavoume? As afisoume kata merous tous diahwrismous se PAOKarhes klp, mono kako kanoun.

ola kala ayta pou les file mou, eilikrina den diafwnw, alla egw eksakolouthw akoma na anarwtiemai poios tha rthei na agorasei ton PAOK dixws na xei sto mialo tou kai to gipedo.POIOS?

PS pisteveis oti an enas epixeirimatis asxolithei sovara kai texnokratika me to podosfairo tou PAOK tou einai diskolo na ftiaksei gipedo...

Georgie-4- · « **Reply #1462 on:** April 06, 2006, 19:00:52 »

Karntasia i ousia einai mia...

THYRA 4, MAKEDONES, VOREIOI, DYTIKES kai sia kante mia epitropi EDW kai TWRA..

Pate miliste me ton dikigoro tou Savvidi i akoma kai me ton idio !

ALLA OLOI MAZI..OLOI..valte kai kanenan Oikonomidi, i kanena Kouda stin epitropi GIA NA MATHOUME TIN ALITHEIA TIN GAMIMENI ! !

Opws eipe kai o Lagogiannis kai einai pasifanes..o TYPOS EINAI TRELOS LEFTAS..

Ta gipeda kai ta loipa, egw den ta pistevw.. Xtypane ton PAOKtsi sta nevra, gia na ton poune amesws LAMOGIO..

Re sy malaka dimosiografe pou koptesai gia tin Toumba, O LAOS TOU PAOK APOFASIZEI RE MALAKA, i GENIKI SYNELEVSI TOU AS APOFASIZEI RE MALAKA..

Poios ston poutso den gnwrizei oti i Toumba anikei ston AS ?
Avtoi pou edw kai 3 mines einai se syzitiseis, DEN TO KSEROUN ?

Apo to diastima katevikan ?

GEIA SOU GOUMENE SWTIRA, POU OI SYZITISEIS DIAKOPIKAN EPEIDI DEN TOU EDINES TO GIPEDO..MPRAVO MAGKA PALIKARE MOU..XILIA XRONIA NA MEINEIS STON PAOK MAS SWTIRA

To na thelei tin ekmetalevsi tou gipedo o ekastote ependytis einai themito..kai to APOFASIZOUME EMEIS ..opote fimes peri gipedou, sta arxidia mas ta dyo na tis grafoume

Londrezos · « **Reply #1463 on:** April 06, 2006, 20:24:16 »

Quote from: univ on April 06, 2006, 18:32:48

londreze pisteyeis oti einai arketos enas dio treis dimosiografoi na ta tinaskoun ola ston aera i mipos ontyos einai to gipedo ayto pou kaiei?
pio pithano theoro to deytero

O synduasmos kai twn dyo pws sou fainetai?

?

Ti 8a eleges oti oi dhmosiografiskoi sto vwmo ths prwths eidhshs kai apospashs Paoktshdwn kai xrhmatwn kat' epektash de 8a elegan koyventa gia to ghpedo??? Koyventa gia to poios 8a einai proedros kai alla kairia erwthmata?

8A TO KSANAPW POIOS SOVAROS EPIXEIRHMATIAS 8A ANALAVEI TON PAOK OTAN VLEPEI OTI OI EFHMERIDES KAI TA RADIOFWNA ORGIAZOUN APO ANAKRIVEIES "APOKLEISTIKOTHTES" KAI TA TOIAYTA...

To 8ema einai oti kapoioi protimoun ton PAOK mikro kai de sevontai ayton pou paei na dwsei 1 Eyrw gia na agorasei thn efhmerida MPAS kai ma8ei kanena kainoyrgio neo...oso alhgoriko ki an akougetai ayto....Kai 8a toys vroume aytous mia mera einai mikres oi skoulikofwlies toys...

Egw ayto pou exw na pw einai htan stravo to klima to efage ki o gaidaros....Rantevou pali eksw apo thn Toumpa thn Kyriakh....

Passenger-4 · « **Reply #1464 on:** April 06, 2006, 20:36:42 »

Egw vlepw oti oloi koitane na arpaksoun tin Toumpa mas.

azazel · « **Reply #1465 on:** April 06, 2006, 20:46:25 »

ΠΟΛΥ ΣΗΜΑΝΤΙΚΗ ΕΡΩΤΗΣΗ. 'Oσοι γράφτηκαν μέλη του ερασιτέχνη μέσω Μετώπου Λαϊκής Βάσης, δηλαδή τους τελευταίους μήνες, έχουν δικαίωμα να ψηφίσουν για θέμα γηπέδου; Ρωτάω γιατί ο Κατσαρής συγκάλεσε έκτακτη συνέλευση, πιθανόν με θέμα, παραχώρηση γηπέδου σε υποψήφιο επενδυτή.

hotdog · « **Reply #1466 on:** April 06, 2006, 21:28:04 »

TO GIPEDO NA MIN DOTHI SE K-A-N-E-N-A-N

opiOs erxete ston Paok gia na fai ton gipedo den ton theloume telia kai pavla. OUTE BILL GATES OUTE KANENES

to gipedo prepi na paramini idioktisia tou A.S.

apeuthinoume se olous autous edo mesa pou pisteuoune oth kainourios idioktitis kai pae gipedo pigenoun paketo. den katalava diladi oles i ipolipes omades sthn europi, arithmitika pano apo 300 400 omades sths epangelmatikes katigories exoun gipedo idioktisia tou "proedrou" tous?

?

eide giath malon ksexname grigora.

ipame gine melos dose telos.

akou eki pou doso to gipedo ton progonon mou se kathe tixeo rosso kai ellina..............

oxi manges tha ginoume oli melh ston a.s. oxi mono fetos, alla kai ton xrono, alla kai ton pio allo xrono kai se 3, 4 xronia tha se xtisi o a.s. kainourio gipedo kai to oniro sou tha gini pragmatikotita

prosopika ta metra alla kai i sira ependisis gia mena ine alla

1) ependisi --> se proponitiko kentro
2) ependisi --> sthn omada
3) ependisi --> sto gipedo

Georgie-4- · « **Reply #1467 on:** April 06, 2006, 21:53:48 »

Bravo ston Katsari arxika, pou sygkalese geniki synelevsi..
Na mazevtoune ola ta meli, na erthei kai o Savvidis, na ginei mia wraia syzitisi kai na vgei ena symperasma kai psifisma

Hotdog.. I TOUMPA MONO GIA EKMETALEVSI MPOREI NA DWTHEI..apagorevetai apo ton nomo o erasitexnis na tin metavivasei, i na tin poulisei...i Toumba mia zwi tha einai perousiako stoixeio tou erasitexni...mia zwi IDIOKTISIA tou AS itane, einai kai THA einai

king · « **Reply #1468 on:** April 06, 2006, 22:00:14 »

Akribws auto pou eipe o Georgie..

To gipedo DEN POLITE KAI DEN PARAXWRITE.
Tin ekmetaleusi tou kai tin axiopiisi tou thelei na sigourepsei o savvidis.
...to eipe k o dikigoros tou to mesimeri.

chris · « **Reply #1469 on:** April 06, 2006, 22:42:52 »

dior8oste me an kano la8os k exei balei to link kapoios ,alla sto www.savvidi.ru mporoume ?

na rothsoume ti telika "paixthke" me to endiaferon tu ivan..leo ego tora.

xmm..apo thn allh oute rosika oute pontiaka ksero.

mikrasiaths eimai sthn katagogh

babis36 · « **Reply #1470 on:** April 06, 2006, 23:00:21 »

Το σιγουρο για μενα ειναι οτι αυριο θα εχουμε δηλωσεις Γουμενου. Τελος πιστευω οτι χωρις την συμετοχη του ερασιτεχνη σε μια διαπραγματευση παραχωρησης της ομαδας στην οποια θα περιλαμβανεται και η εμπορικη εκμεταλευση του χωρου καποιου καινουργιου γηπεδου και ισως εμπορικου κεντρου για καποιο χρονο (η εκταση και το γηπεδο οπως σωστα σημειωθηκε ανηκει παντα στον ερασυτεχνη) δεν ειναι δυνατη. Αυτο με τα υπαρχοντα χρεη της ομαδας πρεπει να θεωρηται δεδομενο και τα κατα την γνωμη μου δεν ειναι και μεμπτο. Για μενα ο Γουμενος εχει ακομα καποια χαρτια πωλησης στα χερια του αρκει οντως να θελει να πουλησει. Αυτο θα φανει μαλλον στο αμεσο μελλον.

king · « **Reply #1471 on:** April 06, 2006, 23:41:11 »

Molis bgike o grigoriadis ston extra kai xekatharise to thema me to gipedo. Dld oti to gipedo anikei eforou zois ston erasitexni kai se kamia periptwsi den paraxwrite i idioktisia tou stin pae. Episis eipe oti to kollima einai to ok, pou mexri stigmis den dinete sto thema tis ekmetaleuseis/axiopiisis tis toumpas kai oxi sto oti den mporei na parei o savvidis ton AS.

Diladi aderfe paoksi, edw pou ta leme, toso kairo psaxnoume gia enan malaka pou tha mas dwsei 34 ek gia na parei ta arxidia mou (me to simpathio).. aaaa kai 22 zeugaria podia..

Pws tha breis ependiti re paoksi pou tha sou dwsei 34 ek xwris na exasfalisei tin ekmetaleusei tis toumpas?? Yparxei tetoio tipaki ston planiti auto? eulogi i erwtisi mou pisteuw...

Episis epanelabe o grigoriadis oti yparxoun epitages ellinikwn trapezwn me ta 34 ek kai tis exei dei o goumenos.. me liga logia, o xontros exei dei to meli kai den mporei na to glipsei

(mounopano

)

Telos tethike kai to thema gia tin auriani sineleusi tou AS.. Leei pws gia na dwthei to ok gia tin ekmetaleusi-axiopoiisi tis toumpas xriazete na psifisoun yper ta 2/3 twn eggegramenwn mellwn tou AS. PROSOXH!! ta 2/3 twn eggegramenwn mellwn tou AS, oxi ta 2/3 twn parebriskwmenwn mellwn stin sineleusi. Diladi, an px ta eggegramena melloi einai 1200 kai parebrethoun ta 800 tote tha prepei na psifisoun ola yper kai xriazomaste kai allon 1.

-- Xerei kaneis an isxuei auto to prama pou eipe o grigoriadis?? --

bannon · « **Reply #1472 on:** April 07, 2006, 00:10:24 »

gnorizei kaneis, poia einai i stasi ton organomenon
sxetika me tin protasi tou savvidi?

giati sto www.paokg4.org mono misologa kai
iponooumena einai

isxiei diladi to kato ta vromoxera sas apo tin toumba?

Agopian · « **Reply #1473 on:** April 07, 2006, 01:35:47 »

to gipedo anikei ston erasitehni.Otan milame gia parahwrisi ennooume ta eksis: tha gremistei to gipedo i tha anakataskeyastei me tetoio tropo wste ston peribalonta hwro na ginoun katastimata, mpiliarda, cinema, striptitzadika, patsatzidika marx and spencer, macdonalds kai alla tetoia klain eyrwpaikoamerikanika. Apo olo ayton to tziro tha fane kapoioi sygekrimenoi. Ayoi pou tha 'parahwrisoun' to gipedo,oi kataskeyastikes etairies pou mporei na anikoun se OPOIONDIPOTE kai tha pairnoun pososta gia polla hronia apo tin pae kai tis epiheiriseis sto gipedo, kai KYRIWS aytoi pou tha ehoun tis metohes, i estw aytoi pou tha fainetai oti ehoun tin pleiopsifia twn metohwn otan tha kleistoun oi symfwnies.
....kai posa alla lamogia tha vrethoun na tsibisoun...hrisimopoiontas to onoma tis paokaras mas kai tin timi kai tin noimosini tou paoktsi...
Me apla logia theloun na ekmetaleytoun omades san emas sta protypa px tis agglias. ta posa einai poly megala(deite ti posa pehtikan kai paizontai gia to karaiskaki kai ton hamo gia to pou tha ginoun kai poios tha faei apo ta nea gipeda twn vazelwn kai tis aek)

To thema einai aderfia oti tha vrethoun polloi na fane apo ton paok mas...aplws ta posa kai ta symferonta prwti fora einai toso megala.... kai proswpika nomizw oti den apofeygetai i kathe eidous ekmetaleysi sta protypa tis metallagis enos podosfairikou gipedou se emporiko kedro
Alla parolayta den mporei kanena lamogio kai kanenas laoutzikos i karagiozis eite legetai goumenos eite mpatatoudis eite opws alliws na ksepoulisei i na klepsei tin TOUBA apo tous PAOKTSIDES i na ksekollisei ton aythentiko paoktsi apo tin IDEA tou PAOK kai tis TOUBAS.
Pisteyw oti i enwmeni kai dynamiki stasi tou laou se ola ta epipeda kai se ola ta tektenomena tha einai ayti pou tha kathorisei tin opoia morfi paroun oi ekselikseis...

"" Kapote i stagona tha ginei vrohi kai tha kseplynei ti vrwmia"

polman · « **Reply #1474 on:** April 07, 2006, 01:46:35 »

Quote from: king on April 06, 2006, 23:41:11

Telos tethike kai to thema gia tin auriani sineleusi tou AS.. Leei pws gia na dwthei to ok gia tin ekmetaleusi-axiopoiisi tis toumpas xriazete na psifisoun yper ta 2/3 twn eggegramenwn mellwn tou AS. PROSOXH!! ta 2/3 twn eggegramenwn mellwn tou AS, oxi ta 2/3 twn parebriskwmenwn mellwn stin sineleusi. Diladi, an px ta eggegramena melloi einai 1200 kai parebrethoun ta 800 tote tha prepei na psifisoun ola yper kai xriazomaste kai allon 1.

ama den iparxoun 800 atoma den vgainei kamia apofasi. ama iparxoun 800 atoma xreiazete to 51% na pei nai.
an den iparxoun ta 800 atoma pame se deyterh genikh syneleych. an den iparxei pleocifia kai se ayth pame se trith opou apofasizoyn aytoi pou einai ekei. dld kai 10 atoma na einai, ftanoun.
ta parapana isxioun stis genikes sineleyseis genika. alla den nomizo na iparxei kapoia diafora sthn periptosi mas.

pantos to na theloume megaloependiti xoris na mporei na ekmetaleytei thn toumpa einai asindetoi oroi. sto telos tha kataliksoume na exoume thn toumpa alla na mhn paizei kanenas mesa.....

PAOK_EDESSA · « **Reply #1475 on:** April 07, 2006, 03:55:41 »

ama analabei ton paok o savvidis isos etsi akousa katsi jia proedros o ekprosopos tou savvidi o kaxrimanis i paramini kai o goumenos...

kai to gipedo me tipote de to pernei o savvidis tou erasitexni einai kai tha minei...

to oraio einai ama endiaferete kapios na parei ton PAOK jiati se radiofona kai se efimerides bgenoune...

ama endiaferese na pareis ton PAOK pane sta grafei tou PAOK kai pare thn omada...

oxi pas se radiofona kai efimerides kai kaneis diafimisi...

barethikame na akoume,dibazoume kai na blepoume to idio ergo...

euxome afto me ton savvidi na min einai pali kana ala arabias kai ala latsis kai ala psomiadis....

hotdog · « **Reply #1476 on:** April 07, 2006, 09:20:17 »

@ georgie...........

xmmmmmmmm mipos mas plasernoun me ton a) kai b) logo oli tous auto pou theloun?

h paraxorisi ths toumbas den mpori na gini nomika? oriste th ipate?

--> tha ine to proto periousiako stixio se auton ton planiti pou me ton a) kai b) logo den allazi idioktiti. den pai na ine kai o a.s.. Edo ta tmimata podosfairo, basket, volley poulithikan, poulithiki to simbolo aetos den tha poulithi to gipedo? ine apla kapies tsifres pou peftoun. simfono oth xriazontai ta 2/3 ton gramenon melon.

--> i pio apli lisi (den ksero pos to lene sta ellinika) to ERBBAURECHT sta germanika. ksero omos oth iparxi kai sthn ellada. kataxorisi tou oikopedou 99 xronia. esi xtizis oth goustaris ktlp. kai meta apo 99 xronia pefti oth iparxi pano sto oikopedo piso ston idioktiti.

malista orea kai tora? fisika nomika den ine idioktisia tou ependiti. oikonomika omos ine 100% oxi mono giath mpori na to ekmetaleuti alla giath mpori na to ksanagremisi kai na to ksanaxtisi se authn thn xroniki periodo opos goustari kai oth goustari. kai pios mou lei emena oth den tha xtisi se 25 xronia polikatikies? kai pios mou lei emena oth ama gremisti tha ta broun amesos kai tha xtisoun kainourio. blepe aek klinoun 2 xronia tora xoris na exoun tipota. se emas isos klisoume 10-15 xronia etsi?? leme tora.

--> diladi idioktitis tou karaiskaki pios ine telika?

--> idioktitis tou gipedou nikos goumas pios itan? gremistike?

--> pios ependitis tha xosi 500-600 xiliades p.x. gia na kani ena soupermarket (asxeta pou iparxi kiolas mesa sto gipedo -- arage tha mporouse auta pou leme na ta ekmetaleuth kai o a.s.) xoris na exi simbolio 10-20 xronia xrisisi?

ego prosopika na sas po den pisteuo outa kan ta 34 ekatomira xrei pou exi dithen h pae. apo pou exete auton ton arithmo? oli milame gia arithmous kai szenaria xoris omos na gnorizizoume kati episima. ego auto pou ksero ine oth gia na paris san pae

--> tous orkotous logistes (an fisika ontos mpikan mesa) tous ebale apoklistika kai mono o goumenos kai kanenas allos. Den ginete alios. h pae paok ine idioktisia tou. den mpori sto diko sou magazi na bali kapios ksenos logistes.

--> den pisteuo tipota sta radia kai sths fillades afou me plasarane 300 fores papades ta teleutea 2 xronia. apoklistika kai mono thn prosopikes mou gnosis. kai autes ine san souma soumaroum autes:

--> kapou diabasa oth megaloependits pou na xosi xosi tosa xrimata sthn omada (asxeta pou den kseroume akrivous arithmous) kai na min pari to gipedo den ginete. kai pios mou lei emena diladi oth autos pou tha erthi kai tha pari to gipedo tha endiaferte kai gia thn omada. iparxi kai pithanotita na kapakosi to gipedo. na bali kati malakies p.x. matres autokinitou, soupermarket, esto kai mcdonalds ktlp. kai na afisi thn omada aprostateuth dioth perni to lilinka kai den ton endiaferi tipota parapano. to gipedo eki den ine opos sthn ipolipi europi ektos polis me traina kai tram pou ine anangasmeni na pezoun balara i omada oste o kosmos na pigeni sto gipedo kai gia katanalosi. sthn toumba oth kai na mpi tha exi 7 fores thn ebdomada anixto opote esena san opado tha se grapsi sta @@ tou. opote pios ine o logos na ependisi sthn omada?

1) kathe periousiako stixio mpori na allaksi idioktiti
2) apotelesmata apo orkoutes logistes den ida akoma pou na lene oth exi i omada xrei ton 30-40-50-60 ekatomirion. mono kati filades me kapious periergou arithmous opos edo sto foroum pou o ena milai gia 30 ek o allos gia 67 ek. (ime 100 ta 100 sigouros oth i omada ine xreomeni afou i pextes to dilosane oth ine apliroti apo ton augousto). To akrivos poso den to gnorizo
3)

giath den mou apantise kasis sthn idea th tha legate na ginoume 1-2-3-4-5 xronia meli tou a.s. oste na enisxithi oikonomika toso poli pou na mas xtisi gipedo i mana tou paok?

egrapsa polla, para polla. sas kourazo ine sigouro alla kourastika alithina kai monos mou. mia zoi ta idia. mas pezoun mas kanoun oth theloun. simera milame gia savvidi (ton bgalame kai eliniko onoma) eno aurio pali gia modelo barcelona. ola ta kanoume apo misa alla tipota olikliro. leme den dinoume se kathe tixaio to gipedo. o tipos omos ine tixeos giath ma ton theo prin 2 ebdomades oute kano ton gnoriza. exi omada kapou sto kazaxstan (lol) pou tha pesi katigoria kai tora tha ependisi ta ekatomiria gia to kalo ths omados (ouf). me to zori bgainoume europi kai theloume gipedo. proponisi kanoun kai bgainoun travmaties kai theloume gipedo. omada pou giasemakis pleon ine bassikos exoume kai theloume gipedo.

1) proponitiko kentro
2) omada
3) gipedo

auth ine i sira pou analogi se ena makroxrono programma. ola ta alla ine astia.

alexisv · « **Reply #1477 on:** April 07, 2006, 10:24:17 »

sostos o hotdog.

eho k ego kapies apories. as poume oti simfonoume me ton savvidi....:

1. Ti ginete me to gipedo pou ekmetaleuete O SAVVIDIS gia ta epomena X hronia an mas bgei k autos xaderfos tou boulinou/mpatatoudi/goumenou? O epomenos ependitis ti tha parei? Ti tha iparhei gia na ton kanei na thelei na erthei?
2. Mporei na egkiithei pos to gipedo paei paketo me tin omada? Diladi an apofasisi melontika na apohorisi apo ta dioikitika tou paok na dosei k to gipedo? Simantiko giati autos mporei na mpei stin pae, na kanei to gipedo k meta afou ehei kanei ena anektimitis axias emporiko kentro na paratisi tin omada...
3. AN dothei to gipedo gia ekmetaleusi ston Savvidi, mporei o kirios autos na egkiithei pos mazi me to gipedo tha ftiaxei k proponitirio (kapou anatolika as poume)? Auto tha mou edine na pistepso pos esto k ligo tha ton endiaferei k i omada k ohi mono ta polikatastimata tou gipedou.
4. Mporoun na egkiithoun pos se mia tetia periptosi o AS tha ehei logo gia to pios tha einai sto DS tis PAE? Pios mporei na mou egkiithei pos o savvidis den ta ehei brei me ton goumeno i kapio allo gnosto lamogio to opio tha sinehisei na zei apo ton paok? Ginete o AS me geniki sineleusi na mporei na bgalei kapion apo to DS tis PAE?
5. Mporei kapios na mou egkiithei pos to htisimo mias neas toumpas (leme tora) tha pernaei k apo ton AS mias k o savvidis apla ekmetaleuete alla den einai idioktitis? Me liga logia na ehei o AS meso genikis sineleusis dikeoma logou gia themata horitikotitas, arhitektonikis, KAI KIRIOS PIES ETERIES THA SIMETEHOUN STIN KATASKEUI? Na min doume kamia pagonis ae i mpatman ae k trelathoume diladi!

Auta.

Nomizo pos einai kauta erotimata k tha to ektimousa idietera an kapio melos tou AS (mias k ego auti tin stigmi den eho tin oikonomiki dinatotita na gino) tha mporouse na kanei kapies oi olles apo tis parapano erotisis stin ektakti geniki sineleusi tou AS.

agraf · « **Reply #1478 on:** April 07, 2006, 10:57:23 »

Mporei na mou pei estw kai enas ta tehnika haraktiristika tou "neou" gipedou?
-Hwritikotita
-Morfi
-Emporikoi hwroi
-Kostos kataskevis
-Hronodiagramma

Akoma den mas milise o Savvidi, akoma den mas eipe ta plana tou kai tis idees tou, akoma den mas eksigise tipota para mono aorista oti thelei mia nea diarthrwsi tis PAOKtsidikis oikogeneias (...) gia na epanelthei stin agora. Akoma den akousame ti fwni tou. Akoma den ehoume tipota sigkekrimeno kai sigouro kai omws arhisame na kanoume ipologismous kai na aghwnomaste gia to pws tha parei stin kiriotita tou to gipedo.

Pame kala i ehoume trellathei teleiws?

artemios · « **Reply #1479 on:** April 07, 2006, 11:23:55 »

re poniros o pontios mipos 8elei na fernoume kai tis gkomenes mas ka8e vdomada na tis travaei kanena manikh
alla 8a mou peis poios trellos 8elei na parei mia omada pou xrwstaei 18 ekatomiria
akou den iksere oti anikei stin kae den iksere den rwtage
kane esei omada kirie savidh mou kai meta na deis pws gemizei o naos

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