Γιατί αδειάζει η Τούμπα; και σιγά σιγά "Γιατί γεμίζει η Τούμπα;"

[HOMOPAOKUS]

Me apasxolei edo kai poly kairo. To exo syzhthsei me arketoys gnostoys kai filoys. To exo syzhthsei me atoma poy palia den exanan kanena paixnidi kai tora den patane. Den apantane oloi to idio. Exo dei mia megalh gkama epixeirhmaton me apotelesma na mh mporo na bgalo asfales symperasma. Telika , ta teleytaia xronia

GIATI ADEIAZEI H TOYMPA?

Peite th gnomh sas. Kalo 8a htan na katagrafoyn oso to dynaton perissoteres apopseis kai katopin isos kanoyme ena poll oste na broyme TIS KYRIES AITIES.
Isos an broyme tis pragmatikes aities kataferoyme na anastrepsoyme to fainomeno.
Roteiste kai an8ropoys poy paliotera phgainan sto ghpedo eno tora oxi.
Kapoioi filoi eipan oti ena tetoio topic pi8anos na ginei proion ekmetalleyshs apo allo8rhskoys . Ego nomizo oti den prepei na krybomaste piso apo to daxtylo mas. Alloste akoma kai AN ligosteyoyme eksakoloy8oyme na eimaste se poly kalyterh katastash se sxesh me alloys.

Endeiktika anafero merikes aities poy exo akoysei ego ta teleytaia xronia apo Paoktshdes. (Poia einai h dikh moy gnomh 8a thn po sto mellon)

   *Mpatatoydis ("den phgaino ghpedo giati den moy dinei orama o Mpatatoydis")
   *Kako 8eama ("ti na deis more tora, to pragmatiko podosfairo einai sto CL")
   *Bia
   *Kakes syn8hkes sto ghpedo (kryo, stena ka8ismata klp)
   *H bromia toy Ellhnikoy prota8lhmatos

GIATI ADEIAZEI H TOYMPA?

Peite th gnomh sas...

[DoctorBalendar]

Bale kai tis sunexeis zwntanes tileoptikes metadoseis. Isws 8a eprepe na min ginetai zwntani metadosi agwna meta apo aitima tis PAE.

px. Kunigaw CL kai paizw me AEK kai 8a exw mono 10000 eisitiria??? Apagoreuw ti zwntani metadosi kai opoios den 8elei mporei na dei ton agwna metamesonuktia...

Kserw oti einai isws blakeia kai auto pou 8a pw twra, alla gia mena ta polla radiofwna kai oi efimerides stin poli uperkourazoun kai odigoun se koresmo ton opado. Ola ta mplekoun gia to sumferon tous, apomu8opoioun auto pou legame "pame na doume ton PAOK na tsekaroume ton tade" kai galouxoun kanapedakoPAOKtsides pou to mono pou summetexoun einai sta SMS kai ta tilefwna stis ekpompes.

Kai to teleutaio...TO STOIXHMA!!! Anti na dwsei 15 eurw na dei tin omada tou, dinei lefta ston Kokkali gia na paiksei tzogo pou ek twn proterwn XANEI!!! Meta pou na paei sto gipedo...

Sunopsizontas:

1. Opws 8ewrw oti 3 omades einai polles gia 1.000.000 8essalonikious etsi pisteuw to idio kai gia ta 3 a8litika radiofwna.

2. Ligoteres kai elegxomenes tileoptikes metadoseis.

3. Oxi sto Stoixima!

[kostas4]

Diki mou apopsi einai oti ftaei i agonistiki kai dioikitiki katastasi tis omadas.Kai eidika i agonistiki.otan i omada ta pigainei kala(kai den ennoo triti thesi,exoume na paroume protathlima 20 xronia) o kosmos tha girisei sto gipedo.xerw atoma pou den exanan agwna kai twra patane mono sta derby kai an.i apantisi tous einai oti varethikane synexeia ta idia.theloun na doun kati parapanw apo ton PAOK,kati pou exoume na doume pano apo dekaetia.

[tomkar]

den yparxei orama..
edw kai 4-5 xronia ton Ianouario eimaste 2oi-3oi (persi prwtoi se kapioa fasi) kai oloi kseroun oti sto telos tha kataliksoume .. aiwnioi 4oi (as elpisoume na mi ginei to idio fetos..) Varethike o kosmos.. kourastike..

episis diafora perierga (eksairw kseftiles typou kastorias..) apotelesmata ta teleytaia xronia pou exoun pligwsei thn perhfania tou PAOKtsi..

[tomkar]

episis ksexasa oti exoume ginei h kainouria.... Ksanthi pou poulame (leme twra... makari na tous poulousame.. dinoume) olous tous paixtes mas stin Athina

ayto ksana anaferetai stin perifania tou opadou

[GENTLESOS]

Na po kai ego tin gnomi mou
emeis pitsirikades eimastan stis allanes kai pezame ti allo? MPALA
Tora i pitsirikades ti kanoun?
Pezoun me ta computer ta playstation to internet klp klp
Den iparxei re aderfia allo to mikrovio ayto
kaka ta psemata otan asxolise me kati to agapas.
Ena allo fenomeno einai to eksis
Palia thimame mas eperne o pateras kai mas pigene sto gipedo 1-2 fores ton xrono otan eimastan pitsirikia kai mas evaze to microvio alla tote den vrizane me ta sinthimata opos vrizoun tora kai den kolouse.
Tora o pateras tin skeftete tin doulia giati otan pas sto gipedo ta 11 apo ta 10 (oxi den ekana lathos ta 11- apo 10) sinthimata einai gia poutsous mounia gamo klp
den eiparxoun ta sinthimata gia tin omada mas
Ara o pitsirikos den paei sto gipedo den kolaei to microvio.
Kai gia na katalikso kai oi pitsirikades pou exoun to microvio kai einai 13-14 xronon kai theloun na pane sto gipedo den tous efinoun oi goneis pleon giati me ta kanalia pou eiparxoun stin tileorasi to kounoupi to kanoun elefanta (oso anafora ta episodia diladi).

An tha kitaksete tis ilikies pou einai mesa sto gipedo den iparxoun allo oi pitsirikades. Tora oso anafora to megalo sigoura skeftete polla pragmata.
tin mia oikonomika panta to isitirio.
tin alli i kira fonazei pou vgeneis monos kai tin afineis me ta pedia spiti klp klp.

Distixos exoun alaksei oi epoxes kai to simperasma...
An ta gipeda den ginoun eklisies den prokite na ksanarthoun oi dikes mas epoxes.

Ola ayta pistevo oti einai i pragmatikotita xoris fisika na ta aspazome ola ayta pou egrapsa.

[Taseos]

o ellhnas apo thn mera pou arxise na paizei stoixhma kai na blepeis doriforika ksena prwta8lhmata...na kanei kai kana taksidaki se kana gipedo sobaro, epapse na asxoleitai me tous apatewnes sthn ellada..BARE8IKE O "MALAKAS" NA PLHRWNEI ena apo ta akribotera eishthria sthn eurwph gia na ka8etai se brwmiko kareklaki otan auto yparxei kai den exei spasei.bare8ike na ton pianei kopsimo apo ta ligmena loukanika.bare8ike na skaei h fouska tou giati epi 3 wres den paei toualeta mia kai den uparxei kai otan uparxei pas me sunepeies dikes sou mipws pa8eis kai kamia ipathtitida, bare8ike na exei kaggela mpatsous 8arreis kai einai gourouni.
bare8ike na akouei sinexws etsi gamaei o enas o kwlos sas o tripios oi manes sas oi etsi kai paei legontas.
xa8ike apo tous opadous twn omadwn to au8ormhto.
efuge o kosmos emeinan oi ligoi grafikoi...na prospa8oun na broun enan logo gia na meinoun sta ereipia twn gipedwn tou 1959
nisafi...den eimaste zwa...sthn eurwph mphkame...Euro ferame ependuseis mporei na mhn hr8an. alla o doriforos allakse ton tropo pou skeftetai o ellhnas fila8los.den egine kaneis tou kanape..apla bare8hke na dinei lefta kai na eispratei xlebasmo. kapote elega oti leipei to orama... pleon lew oti kai orama na yphrxe pali adeia 8a htan ta ghpeda. 20 euro eishthrio gia na dw to paok-aris einai para polla lefta an doume to pososto se sxesh me ta 470 euro basikou mis8ou sthn ellada...kai na deis ti?mia toumpa ereipio xwris kamia prooptikh.

[Taseos]

kai mia kai to 8ema anaferetai sto diko mas gipedo.adeiazei giati adiazei kai o paok apo kosmo...exase o paok thn ideologia tou...exase ton epanastatiko to xarakthra.den exei prosanatolismo...kai o pitsirikas an eixe na dialeksei ton paok den 8a to kane gia tous titlous alla ta idanika pou presbeue o paok. kai shmera den presbeuei tipota.apla etsi pws ton katantisan apotelei ena mnhmonio mias 8rylikhs omados me enan 8ruliko lao...8imizei kati apo ellhnikh istoria...ena e8nos oi ellhnes me 8aumasto parel8on alla me midamino paron.gemise o kosmos gabrobazelakia...auth einai h pragmatikothta.8 xronia htan polla kai h paragwgh newn paoktsidwn exei meiw8ei para ma para poly...

[chris]

• H TV
• Antidrash ston (h logo toy) Batman
• Akriba eishthria
• Ftwxo 8eama
• Den exei tzertzele pleon stis kerkides (dhl. den kanoyme pleon tis entypwsiakes kerkides toy parel8ontos)
• Den exei megaloys stoxoys h omada gia na prokalesei to endiaferon
• "As to afhsoyme stoys neoteroys afoy emas pmas phran ta xronia"
• Dialymenoi h anorganotoi syndesmoi
• Yperbolika poloi syndesmoi me apotelesma thn elleipsh syntonismoy
• Apoysia hgeth ths kerkidas
• Megalh kai koyrastikh Astynomeysh poy dyskoleyei tis ekdromes
• Narkotika mesa stis ekdromes
• To spasimo ths paradoshs apo ton gay
• Xamhlo epipedo prosforas 8eamatos (stenes karekles, polles kolones, kaggela)
• Sygkrish (kai zhleia)me agones CL
• Oikogeneiakes h epaggelmatikes ypoxreoseis
• Apogohteysh oti den mporoyme na kanoyme tipota afoy o Kokkalhs ry8mizei kai elegxei ta panta
• Radiofonikes ekompes poy apoprosanatolizoyn ton kosmo dhmioyrgontas genikh syxysh kai merikes fores apogohteysh
• Radiofonikes ekompes poy thlefonei o opoiosdhpote, leei otidhpote me apotelesma na ksexarmaniazei thlefonika kai oxi ghpedika
• Bia
• Anikanh diathsia h dieytharmenh diaithsia
• Genikh baremara ("poy na trexw twra..)

[Dragon4]

O basikos logos einai i APAKSIWSH tou podosfairou stin Ellada,stin opoia sunebalan polloi apo tous logous pou anefere proigoumenws o chris
To na pas gipedo pleon thewreitai ews kai upotimitiko ws ena bathmo stin Ellada,mias kai einai sunonimo tis bias kai twn xudaiwn sunthimatwn
Gia auto kai oi filathloi pou einai i megali maza exoun apomakrunthei apo ta gipeda,kai exoun parameinei oi opadoi

H plithwra agwnwn podosfairou stin tileorasi einai enas simantikotatos logos,me sugrisi kai proboli tou eurwpaikou podosfairou pou einai klaseis anwtero kai lampero se sxesi me to ftwxo kai brwmiko elliniko
An i tv edeixne kathe mera theatrikes parastaseis,kai malista apo theatra diethnous fimis,posoi theatrofiloi tha apoxwrizontan ton kanape tous gia na trexoun sta theatra ereipia tis Elladas?
To idio isxuei kai gia kathe koinwniki ekdilwsi i' parastasi pou proballetai kata koron sto xazokouti,sto telos xanei ti mageia tis kai ginetai mia apli kathimerini epanalipsi gia ton apoxaunomeno tiletheati

[PARVAS4]

File Chris, sxetika me ta epixeirhmata sou:

* TV yphrxe kai prin 10 xronia kai malista edeixne tous agwnes lepto pros lepto ki oxi apo syndromhtiko kanali
* O Batman einai parel8on. Htan parel8on prin ton agwna me ton Arh, alla poulh8hkan 13.000 eishthria (molis) me ton aiwnio (oups, sorry, paradosiako).
* O gavros kai o vazelos 3ereis posa plhrwnei gia to f8hnotero eishthrio? 25 Eurw sto nero.
* Ftwxo 8eama??!! Ma o PAOK eixe persi thn paragwgikoterh epi8esh sto prwta8lhma (ws ena shmeio toulaxiston...).
* Ma otan sta syn8hmata fwnazei kai symmetexei mono to 1/4 ths 4 enw oloi oi alloi pan sthn 4 epeidh exei to pio f8hno eishthrio, gia poion tzertzele milame???
* Se alles xwres dhladh pou kovoun ta idia eishthria me emas se mikroteres kathgories ti stoxous exoun???
* Ayto ontws den to katalavainw... "mas phran ta xronia" Ti dhladh, 3afnika sovarepsame?? H gia na pas sto ghpedo xreiazontai swmatikes dynameis 20xronou???
* Thn dekaetia tou '80 pou yphrxe mono h 84 giati to ghpedo gemize?? Epeidh oloi htan syndesmites??
* Ws pros ton hgeth ths kerkidas symfwnw apolyta.
* Gia tis ekdromes den anaferomai, afou to 8ema mas einai h Toumba.
* Paradosh me ton gay??? Kai ti paei na pei ayto??? As er8oun oloi sto ghpedo kai 8a deite pws ayth h paradosh 3anaxtizetai, oxi gia 23 alla gia 123 xronia.
* Kai ti mas noizoun emas oi karekles?? Afou se olo ton agwna eimaste or8ioi. Twra oso gia tis alles 8yres (ektos ths 4)...
* Dhladh prin to '93 pou den yphrxe CL, den yphrxe to prwta8lhtriwn h ta alla 3ena prwta8lhmata?? Omws ypomonh... to CL einai konta... to sentoni erxetai...
* Nai, Nai, twra o ka8enas exei 3 kai 4 douleies, enw prin 20 xronia hmastan oi anergoi pou perimename pws kai pws thn Kyriakh.
* Panta yphrxe kai 8a yparxei kapoios Kokkalhs pou ry8mize kai 8a ry8mizei ta panta.
* Proswpika oi radiofwnikes ekpompes me pwrwnoun akoma perissotero, kai de milaw mono gia tis opadikes ekpompes.
* Bia?!?!?!?!?!?!? Sygkrinete th bia pou yparxei twra me th bia ths dekaetias tou '80 kai arxes '90???
* Ayta gia th diaithsia ta akoume verese... As exoume sta ntermpi 30.000 kosmo kai 8a doume an o diaithths katapinei th sfyrixtra tou h oxi. Giati, me ton gay ta xronia pou tous eixame gkomenes den eixe symvei ayto???
* Pou na trexw twra... Sto ghpedo yparxei varemara, alla gia tis kafeteries, ta club kai ta skyladika eimaste prwtoi. E3allou, sto ghpedo den yparxoun gkomenakia, mono kati mantraxaloi pou gkarizoun mesa sto ayti sou...

***Symperasma: Dikaiologies den yparxoun. An 8elete enan PAOK dynato, na ton tremoun oi omades tou POK opws sto parel8on, 8ysiaste ena diwro ka8e deyterh Kyriakh (oxi ka8e vdomada, etsi??? An den pate stis ekdromes, gemiste toulaxiston thn Toumba) kai oloi Toumba. Vre3ei xionisei o PAOK 8a gamisei den leme?? Ma me 2500 pws na gamisei? Gia ayto kanoume magkes ta lima tou Akrathtou kai ths 3an8hs. Ante geia.

[ksts]

Gia na katalavoume giati adeiazei i Toumpa
prepei na prosdiorisoume pote arxise na
ginetai afto.To kako einai oti den mporw na vrw
oso ki an psaksw mia apantisi sigkekrimeni.

Polles xronies perasane kai me adeia kai me gemati Toumpa.
Kai sigoura den eixe na kanei to theama.Giati tis prwtes xronies
tou Aggelou i omada epaize foveri mpala.Opws kai epi servou
ipirxane mats pou xanotane to topi.

To mono gegonos pou mporw na thimithw san arxi tou telous
itane oxi toso i pwlisi Zagoraki alla kyriws i omilia tou
batiroudi pou akolouthise:eixe milisei o batiroudis
gia PROIONTA(mallon tous paixtes ennoouse) kai
loipa alla texnokratika,agnwsta ston PAOKTSI opado
kai parafwnies afou i sxesi tou me tous paixtes kai tin omada
mono sti logiki den stirizotane.

To deftero panta kat'eme gegonos pou tarakse ta
PAOKTSIDIKA nera itane o erxomos tou servou.
Vlepame ksafnika enan star tou sistimatos
na erxetai ston antistar PAOK kai na ton skepazei:oloi
milousane gia ton PAOK tou Bajevic,aftos travouse ta fwta
tis dimosiotitas oxi o kosmos oxi o dikefalos.
Allotriwthike o epanastatis PAOK ki egine proion
pou parigage i proponitiki megalofiia tou servou.
Ideologika thewrw oti itane megalo pligma.
Stin poreia o PAOKtsis opados arxise na vlepei
tin omada mas ontws san proion afou afto thelisane
na tou perasoune sto mialo.Ki o PAOK san proion  den
noeeitai.Gi'afto pistevw oti o perissoteros kosmos
den paei Toumpa pleon,giati den niwthei diko tou ton
PAOK.
I thiteia tou servou kai tou batiroudi stin omada
tin vgalane ektos ideologikis stegis,an thewrisoume oti
iparxei tetoia.

 

[gate4]

polu wraia kai akadimaika ta lete oloi.
gia omws den lete kai to pio basiko apo ola.
dikailogies gia na min erthei kapoios sto gipedo uparxoun polles, opws polles upirxan kai prin apo 20 kai prin apo 30 xronia.
apla twra einai perissoteroi autoi pou boileuontai apo tin katastasi kai den erxontai anamaswntas mia apo dikaiologies.
to thema einai aplo. i erxesai i den erxesai.
kai oi perissoteroi pou den erxontai einai bolemenoi me to na min erxontai.
thats all folks

[PARVAS4]

File gate4: Den nomizw oti kapoios paei sto ghpedo epeidh den exei dikaiologies h exei 3emeinei apo aytes. Sto katw katw den einai kai ypoxrewtiko, sto ghpedo erxesai giati to 8eleis pragmatika, ki oxi giati to vlepeis san ypoxrewsh.

[chris]

File Chris, sxetika me ta epixeirhmata sou:

xalara palikare mou..
aplh katagrafh ekana kapoiwn ypoti8emenwn h pragmatikwn epeixhrhmatwn,aitiwn,ktl ktl....proion pio polly shzhthshs pou kaname kapou,kapote me ton @homo paokus
8esh dhladh den phra alla mallon oute kai 8a parw...pio poly gia na boh8hsw thn opoia shzhthsh aftou tu TOPIC epeixhrhsa..kai allwste ousiastika exw parei 8esh polles fores kai se diafora TOPIC kyriws se afthn thn enothta alla kai sthn allh,thn "genika 8emata peri PAOK"....pou bariemai na epanalambanomai

[DoctorBalendar]

Blepw Dortmund-Schalke kai exei 83000 (!!!) 8eates...

Atimi Germania...Apo Aprilio ksana stin 4a...

[PARVAS4]

File Chris, sxetika me ta epixeirhmata sou:

xalara palikare mou..
aplh katagrafh ekana kapoiwn ypoti8emenwn h pragmatikwn epeixhrhmatwn,aitiwn,ktl ktl....proion pio polly shzhthshs pou kaname kapou,kapote me ton @homo paokus
8esh dhladh den phra alla mallon oute kai 8a parw...pio poly gia na boh8hsw thn opoia shzhthsh aftou tu TOPIC epeixhrhsa..kai allwste ousiastika exw parei 8esh polles fores kai se diafora TOPIC kyriws se afthn thn enothta alla kai sthn allh,thn "genika 8emata peri PAOK"....pou bariemai na epanalambanomai

Ma ki egw kapoia sxolia panw se ayta ta epixeirhmata ekana, oxi panw stis apopseis sou. No offence, etsi?

[AK4]

Blepw Dortmund-Schalke kai exei 83000 (!!!) 8eates...

Apo pote re file Doctor to Westfallen horai 83.000

Ciaaaaaao

[DoctorBalendar]

Anoikse tin TV, sou lew...

http://www.stadion-live.de/

kai

http://www.stadiumguide.com/westfalenstadion.htm

[KARATZOVITIS]

Ego san "xenos" stin Thessaloniki vlepo to exeis FAINOMENO Kyriki apogevma ta cafe kai ta bar einai tinga kai o NAOS menei adios, mia erotisi sta filarakia giati den pame oloi mazi sto gipedo na doume parea ton PAOK alla apantisi sosti den pira pote kamia to mono pou akouo edo kai chronia einai to OCH MORE PIOS PAEI TORA STO GIPEDO.
 
To mono pou tous endiaferei einai pio neo kounito kykloforise kai ti veltiosi tha kanoun sto "karouli" tous an kapote tha eichan kapia lefta pou mporei na kerdisan apo to stoichima.
Eno emeis kanoume kathe thysia afinoume ta panta piso mono kai mono na doume ton PAOK sto NAO, esto kai afto an einai 2 i 3 fores ton chrono.
MONO AN KATEI SOU LIPSI THA MATHEIS NA TO EKTIMAS SOSTA.
Gia miliste me aderfia apo USA CANADA AUSTRALIA pou milane gia PAOK kai TOUMPA me dakria sta matia gia na katalabete tin aksia tous.
Kai afiste tous alous na
" PEZOUN ME TA VIZIA TIS CHELONAS "