www.paokg4.org - οπαδικό site που δεν ανήκει όμως στον Σ.Φ. ΠΑΟΚ Θύρα 4 (για την αποφυγή παρεξηγήσεων)

[Dragon4]

To FWS simera eixe sto eksofullo tou fwto tis THYRAS 4 kai meros tis anakoinwnisis tis!

OUST PALIOSIXAMENOI GAY,KARAGIOZOGLYFTES POYSTHDES

PAOK PANTOY THANATOS KAI DOY!!! :b&w:

[Δικέφαλος]

''TO KALOKAIRI EIXAN OLA KI OLA 2.000.000 EYRW???'' EXEI DEI POTE AYTOS POU EGRAPSE TIN ANAKOINWSH 2.000.000 MPROSTA STA MATIA TOU? GIATI EGW DEN EXW DEI! POTE! Kai to na milame gia tetoia megethi les kai einai psixoula enw emeis oute ta oneireyomaste den kserw an voithaei pragmatika se mia kalopisti kritiki...

Pisteyw oti parermhneuses auto pou ennoei h sygkekrimenh protash. Nomizw auto pou 8elei na pei o syndesmos einai oti "enw sthn arxh legane oti exoun ola ki ola 2 ek. eyrw, ta opoia emfanisthkan meta th fygh twn kafe+g.x., siga siga mas dwsane thn eikona oti reei to xrhma af8ono sthn pae paok."

Den nomizw pws skopos ths protashs einai na geloiopoihsei to poso twn 2ek. euro. Isa isa, ean kapoios eipe oti einai "liga" einai h idia h dioikhsh otan prwtoanelabe, legontas oti "ola ki ola tosa mporoume na baloume".

Egw etsi katalaba thn anakoinwsh ths 4, kai panw sto sygkekrimeno shmeio symfwnw apolyta: H entypwsh pou eixame to kalokairi htan oti goumenos kai pagwnhs DEN exoun polla lefta. Mesa sthn xronia, apoktismae thn entypwsh oti BAZOUNE KI ALLA. Kai twra akougetai les ki exoun balei ena karo lefta.

Gia na mh pare3hgh8w, na tonisw oti DEN 3ERW POSA LEFTA EXOUN BALEI. H sygkekrimenh protash ths anakoinwshs gia 'mena tonizei to parado3o ths katastashs.

Ayta...

Dikefalos

[gate4]

katarxin XRISTOS ANESTI kai KALI ANASTASI se olous kai stis oikogeneies tous.

basika o kathenas grafei oti thelei, alla diabazei alla grafei, ti mpaineis ston kopo yanni? an ton allo ton les mauro kai katalabainei aspro... as grapsei o kathenas oti thelei. de gameis.
apla na kopei maxairi auto me to suggrafea. oti bgazei o sundesmos einai sto onoma tou sundesmou. den einai sto onoma kanenos suggrafea, kanenas kanarakis den einai arxistratigos. opoios exei komplex na min asxoleitai mazi mas. den trexei kai tipota. to megethos tou PAOK kai oi protheseis mas panw apo ola den tha mas "epitrepsoun" na ginoume pote super 3 i original. tzampa sas trwei i anisixia. grapste oti thelete, kapoia stigmi tha luthoun oi apories sas. alla auto me to suggrafea kai ton kanaraki kai ton taksitheti sas parakalw polu kommeno._

kai allazontas klima afierwnw stous filous stef, ston tyflo paratiriti kai to billy to epomeno. euxaristw gia ti sumparastasi kai tous euxomai oti kalutero. kapou, kapws, kapote tha sunantithoume ;-)

Punk rockers, hip-hoppers
Brit poppers, show stoppers
Beboppers, hair droppers
Are you ready to sing?

Right wing, left wing
I want something
To see me through (???)
Bout what do you think

We ain't gonna be treated like trash
We got one thing
We are the Clash
What?
We are the Clash
It's like a patch
You can strike that match

With my guitar now
(???) last dance
I see them where they (???)
How they usually stay

Beating on a drum
Did they tell them 'take it in'
Got the (???)
Where the fat boy blew

We ain't gonna be treated like trash
We got one thing
We are the Clash
That's right
We are the Clash
It's like a patch
You can strike that match

Home fires burnin'
In motorcycle city
The rockin' gods will choose
If I'm worthy to live
The first (???) engine
(???) forty-six
And there's no more (???)
To imitate respect

We ain't gonna be treated like trash
We got one thing
We are the Clash
Don't take no shit
We are the Clash
Do ya hear me?
It's like a patch
You can strike that match

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[petrovgr]

Tha parakampsw tin arxiki eirwnia  kai tha rwtisw pws tha eprepe na apokaloume kapoion pou grafei mia anakoinwsi.Na min ton poume syggrafea? H mhpws gia na graftei mia anakoinwsi mazeyontai ola ta stelexi tis Thyras 4 kai petaei o kathenas apo mia ataka? Gia na exei eirmo kai synoxi kati pou grafetai,  apo ena xeri proerxetai.

Gia kanenan allo de thelw na grapsw plin tou eaytou mou.Exeis loipon dei re filaraki mou gate4 na anaferomai pote sto Syndesmo ''Thyra 4'' me empatheia? Na kanw kakovouli kritiki? Ektos an de dexeste tin kritiki, oute otan exei skopo na pei mia diaforetiki apopsi re aderfe, kapoio lathos na thelei na diorthwsei, egklima einai?

Apo ti stigmi pou dimosieyeis kati ston typo kai sto internet, anapofeykta tha mpeis kai se ayti ti diadikasia.Opws ti diavazei o allos kai leei ''pw re gamati anakoinwsi'' exei to dikaioma kai o allos na pei ''oxi re ti anakoinwsi einai ayti''.Opoia kai apo tis dyo theseis omws kai na parei, ti sovarotita tis topothetisis tou tha tin krineis apo ta epixeirhmata tou,kai oxi apo tin thesi tou.Giati mporei kapoios pou tha se pei ''wraia anakoinwsi,gamati'' na ton rwtiseis ''giati s'arese?'' kai na min kserei na apantisei TIPOTA! Na einai apla enas pou eite thelei na paei me ta nera allwn, i avoulos. Enw i kritiki otan einai emperistatwmeni mporei pragmati na voithisei.

Giayto sygxwra me gia to entono yfos alla thewrw pws ginontai ksana mana ta idia lathi pou ginontan merika xronia prin.Kai an aytoi oi dyo vgoun kai se 5 xronia exoun ekselixtei ws oi anamorfwtes tou P.A.O.K.? Tha exete to sthenos na vgeite dimosia kai na peite ''giname rompa''? Ayto rwtaw.

[stef]

kalispera PAOKARES olis tis gis.
epeidi polloi den katalaban to minima tou gate-4
kai epeidi akomi kapoioi alloi to 8eorisan kai isos eironiko
8a i8ela na episimano oti me ton gate-4 exoume ton diko
mas " kodika" epikoinonias.
gia auto kai ego tou apanto os exeis....

... "When they kick at your front door
     How you gonna come?
     With your hands on your head
     Or on the trigger of your gun?

     When the law break in
     How you gonna go?
     Shot down on the pavement
     Or waiting in death row?
     
     You can crush us
     You can bruise us
     But you'll have to anwer to
     OH OH - THE GUNS OF BRIXTON.

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oso pikramenos kai na einai kapoios ofeilei na to dei to thema kai ligo antikeimenika. to paixnidi tis kuriakis poulimeno den itan me tipota. mporei kapoioi mesa stin trela tous na to fwnaksan (kai den trexei kai tipota) alla pisteuw pws tin alli mera me katharo mualo diapistwnoun oloi pws to paixnidi den itan pouilimeno.
na to agorasei poios? o bazelos? edw den dinei lefta stous paixtes tou, tha agorasei to paixnidi apo ton PAOK?
kai na tou to poulisei poios? oi tuxodiwktes pagwnogoumenoi? kata tin proswpiki mou apopsi den einai ikanoi gia tetoia xontri douleia.
oute mporw na dextw oti o anastasasiadis-osous desmous kai na exei me ton pao-tha skeftotan POTE na poulisei to PAOK. me tipota. oute kan gia tous paixtes kai ta onomata pou suzitiountai.
polu apla i omada mas einai ligi. polu mikri. kai dustuxws pesane stin pagida tou X gia na kanoune ton pontio pilato kai na exoun to kefali tous isuxo. eimaste ligoi asxetws me to pws niwthoume emeis ton PAOK. dioikisi, omada kai nootropia einai polu mikra mprosta se auto pou aisthanetai o kosmos kai tin kuriaki to edeikse polu kathara.
apo agwnistikis pleuras mporw auto na to katanoisw. kai to apodwxomai. toulaxiston epi tou parontos. kapoios egrapse tous pagkous twn duo omadwn tin kuriaki. para polu eustoxo.
alla se epipedo nootropias omws den mporw na to apodextw, me tipota. na perimeneis moirolatrika ti liksi kai na min mporeis na diwkseis ti mpala ws to kentro.
paradwthikan psuxologika sto X mias kai den exoume akoma to anastima na tous xtupisoume sta isia. auto pisteuw.
twra tis malakies oti poulimeno kai tetoia, as tis krinei o kathenas. me psilokremasti pasa kai sto 93', an mporoun na stisoun kai tetoia paixnidia ti na pw. milame gia hollywood pleon.
kai kati telautaio. simera stis 12 dikazontai duo paidia apo tin athina. o enas gia ena purso!!!! kai o allos giati ebale fwtia sto BIA sto panw tis egnatias stin 7!!!!!! epi 2 meres den epetrepsan se kanenan na tous dei sto kratitirio. i pae PAOK kleinei to tilefwno kai i egnatia (autos o megas xorigos) zitaei tin paradeigmatiki timwria tous. gia ena purso!!!! kai gia tria grammata!!!! as krinei o kathenas mas opws nomizei.
kai kati polu teleutaio. tha munisoun leei opoion thiksei tous paiktes. polu kala tha kanoun. as tous prostatepsoun, estw kai katopin eortis. edw kai duo meres o prwtathlitis krazei tous paiktes poulimenous. tha kanei munisi ston prwtathliti tou kokkali o stamos? i tha ksethumanei se kanenan akroati twn topikwn radiofwnwn? auto ki an exei endiaferon na to doume.

[chris]

kai kati polu teleutaio. tha munisoun leei opoion thiksei tous paiktes. polu kala tha kanoun. as tous prostatepsoun, estw kai katopin eortis. edw kai duo meres o prwtathlitis krazei tous paiktes poulimenous. tha kanei munisi ston prwtathliti tou kokkali o stamos? i tha ksethumanei se kanenan akroati twn topikwn radiofwnwn? auto ki an exei endiaferon na to doume.

kai kati polu teleutaio. tha munisoun leei opoion thiksei tous paiktes. polu kala tha kanoun. as tous prostatepsoun, estw kai katopin eortis. edw kai duo meres o prwtathlitis krazei tous paiktes poulimenous. tha kanei munisi ston prwtathliti tou kokkali o stamos? i tha ksethumanei se kanenan akroati twn topikwn radiofwnwn? auto ki an exei endiaferon na to doume.

PRAGMATIKA ainte na doume..ainteeeeeee KYRIE stamooooooo...

[Δικέφαλος]

Exei na kerdisei tipota o PAOK ean asxolh8ei me thn kwlofyllada? Den nomizw... Ektos ki an 8eloume na kanei mynhsh gia na leme, emeis, oi PAOKtshdes, oti "koita dioikhsh pou exoume, ekane mynsh sth fyllada tou Kokkalh".

To exoume 3anadei to ergo nomizw. Peste oti eixe kanei mynhsh. Merikoi 8a legane "mprabo", kai merikoi 8a legane "egine gia ta matia tou kosmou" kai "den htan oso sklhrh 8a eprepe h anakoinwsh"... As ta broume prwta meta3y mas, kai meta ta alla 8a epiblh8oune. Den 8a xreiazetai na ta zhtame...

Etsi nomizw egw  

Dikefalos

[Δικέφαλος]

edw kai duo meres o prwtathlitis krazei tous paiktes poulimenous.

A, kati pou 3exasa na rwthsw...

Swsta gate4 les oti o prwta8lhths krazei tous paiktes ws "poulhmenous". Poios edwse to dikaiwma sth fyllada na bgazei tetoia prwtosellida? Poios opados otan eide thn omada tou na trwei gkol sto 93+ kai na xanei me 1-2 fwna3e stous paiktes tou oti htan "poulhmenoi"? Ean o PAOKtshs den eixe fwna3ei auto to syn8hma, ean o PAOKtshs xeirokrotouse sto telos tou mats, nomizeis oti o "prwta8lhths" 8a egrafe gia poulhmenous paiktes? Kai ean egrafe, toulaxiston den 8a egrafe oti oi idioi oi PAOKtshdes to paradexthkan!!!

Den diafwnw oti einai aparadekto auto pou kanei h kwlofyllada. Apla, nomizw oti h phgh tou kakou einai allou, kapou poly konta mas, isws kai mesa mas...

Dikefalos

[rosen_eye]

Prin apo kairo eixate pei oti tha evgene ena DVD me tous 2 teleutaious telikous tou kypellou Ellados. Ti egine me to thema auto;

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koita na deis file dikefale. apo ti stigmi pou bgaineis dimosia kai apeileis opoion amfisbitei tous paiktes sou, eisai upoxrewmenos (an to pisteueis) na proxwriseis se auto pou apeileis. ektos ki an oi apeiles sou einai eswterikis kausis, gia kanenan akroati kai oxi gi autous pou pragmatika amfisbitisan tin antimotita tis omadas sou, kai malista dimosia me onomatepwnumo. apo tis stigmi omws pou meneis mono sta logia, ara eimaste sti maxi entupwsewn kai tipota perissotero.

anaferese sto sunthima pou akoustike. to sunthima akoustike sporadika apo diafores kerkides. itan mia antidrasi tis stigmis kai periorismenis entasis. opoios itan sto gipedo kserei ti lew.
pisteuw pws oi perissoteroi katalaban oti to sunthima itan epeiikws astoxo. na pouliseis se poion kai poios na agorasei ti?
apo tin alli meria opws kapoioi proebisan se auto to astoxo sunthima, pantelws astoxi stasi itan kai auti pou diatupwthike apo pollous ti bdomada pou perase prin to paixnidi. oti kai kala eimaste sigouroi 3oi (apo pou re file sigouroi?) kai sta @@ mas to paixnidi. alloi bgazane tin apextheia tou ston osfp kai alloi legane na to dwsoume se opoion mas dwsei ta perissotera!!!! Hmarton!!!
den eida omws tin idia antidrasi stis dilwseis kai tis theseis autes. apo tin alli meria, opoios fwnakse to poulimenoi na fugei kai na min ksanapatisei sto gipedo. swpa re su grigoriadi kai loipoi papagaloi.  
epeidi tugxanei na kserw ap eksw kai anakatwta olon ton kosmo stin 4A meta apo 15 xronia, eida asxeto kosmo na fwnazei auto pou les, eida kai sxetiko. den tous krinw, itan mia antidrasi tis stigmis, pou xathike me to pou ekdilwthike. polu koubanta gia to tipote diladi.
gia mena to poio anisuxitiko einai allo. meta to 3-2 me tin aek exei kalliergithei i entupwsi oti eisai sigouros 3os. apo pou re paidia? theleis 4 bathmous an kerdisei to aigalew kai 2 gia tin aek. kai egw den trww to paramuthi kanenos. oti kai kala eimaste sigouroi 3oi. tipota den xarizetai se kanenan. opote akoma kai o enas bathmos me tin pao itan polutimos. polutimotatos. se 15mins paizeis mesa sti smurni me ton paniwnio. an xaseis thes pasi thusia niki me ti xalkidona. gia poio logo. ekei pou eixes panw apo 10+ pontous apo ton 4o tha thes pasi thusia niki. kai se ksanarwtaw giati?
ektos an apo ti mia tipota den einai kanonismeno kai apo tin alli eimaste sigouroi 3oi. tipota den eimaste.
an thes loipon na suzitisoume gia to pragmatiko thema pou einai giati to paixnidi me tin aek parousiastike san to telos tou prwtathlimatos kai apo ekei kai pera kai kala tha kanoume tourismo. auto einai to thema gia mena.
--sunexeia---

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kai kati allo, anaferese sto na xeirokrotisei o kosmos tin omada. den to katalaba auto. diladi eimai upoxrewmenos na tous xeirokrwtaw se kathe paixnidi?
giati? tous exw kamia upoxrewsi? kamia apolutws. tous sebomai, den m'aresei na tous brizei kaneis oso xalia kai na paizoun, alla ws ekei. den m'aresouin oute oi sxoles ekkolaptomenwn proponitwn pou stinontai kathe kuriaki stis 3, 5,6 alla kai apo tin alli meria na tous xeiroktrotisw tin kuriaki giati?
giati paiksane ws to 30' kai meta perimenane na teleiwsei to paixnidi?
sto ksanalew den m'aresei na brizoun tous paiktes oso xalia kai na paizoun. kai oiktra na paizoun. den exeis dikaiwma na ton brizeis oso einai mesa ston agwnistiko xwro. alla den eisai upoxrewmenos kai na ton xeirokroteis.

grafetai, oti kai kala oloi agapane ton PAOK kai paramuthia toumpana. oloi epaggelmaties einai. meinane ston PAOK leei...kai na pou na pane kollite? an den se thelei o osfp, o pao pou na pas. sti dialumeni aek? ston paniwnio? stin xanthi? i ston irakli? Hmarton!
oloi epaggelmaties einai. gia tin poso kali oikogeneia einai san omada kai gi auta den milane sunexeia? kala kanoun. epaggelmaties einai. to sumferon tous, tous apasxolei. otan paizoun kala tous xeirokrwtaw, otan den paizoun tous gurnaw tin plati kai tin kanw. opws kanoun kai autoi me sunepeia edw kai xronia. kai ola kala. o kathenas ti douleia tou.

paixtis simaia gia ton PAOK exei polla polla xronia na emfanistei. elpizw na ksanaginei sto mellon. auti ti stigmi tetoio pragma (proswpika) den pisteuw oti uparxei.

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gia ton filo pou rwtise gia ta dvd molis me pliroforei o reporter mas oti uparxoun alla diatithentai mono apo ta kentrika mas studio.

[Δικέφαλος]

polla 8emata epiases gate4 kai 8a kanw megalo post!  

Katarxhn, den eipa oti "ypoxrewtika" prepei na xeirokothseis tous paiktes kai symfwnoume oti den exei kanenas dikaiwma na brizei tous paiktes mas thn wra tou agwna.

Egw anafer8hka sto ypo8etiko senario tou xeirokrothmatos. Mporei na mhn to a3izane to xeirokrothma opws les mias kai pai3ane mpalla 30 lepta, ALLA:

Otan 3ereis oti tous paiktes ths omadas sou tous eixane oloi prwtoselida gia to poso "adiaforoi", "poulhmenoi" ktl. 8a einai, nomizw pws auto pou prepei na kaneis san fila8los pou agapas thn omada sou einai na tous SYMPARASTA8EIS. Opote kai na MHN to a3izane to xeirokrothma, PREPEI na tous sthri3eis. Isws diafwnoume ideologika sto sygkekrimeno 8ema.

Deuteron, symfwnw 100% oti dw8hke h entypwsh oti to CL einai sigouro meta to mats me thn AEK. Ekei ferei eu8unh h dioikhsh pou epaize mousikes CL meta ton agwna, pou ebgaine kai ekane dhlwseis prin kai meta ton agwna oti to "CL den xanetai", ktl... Ferei terastia ey8ynh, kai ean to ekane epithdes gia logous marketing elpizw na katalabainei to la8os ths twra...

Triton, milas gia elleipsh antidrashs stis ekfraseis typou "na dwsoume to mats se auton pou 8a mas dwsei perissotera" kai thn sygkrineis me thn anatidrash sto syn8hma "poulhmenoi". Yparxei omws mia bassiki diafora: Autoi pou legane to prwto, to legane e3w apo to ghpedo, isws kai kanontas plaka. To syn8hma akousthke MESA sto ghpedo, san antidrash gia thn htta kai sigoura den akousthke gia plaka. Den mporeis na sygkrineis kafeniakes dhlwseis me ena syn8hma pou fwnazei o kosmos organwmena apo tis kerkides... Oso ki an krineis oti den htan "organwmena" alla "memonwmena", h efhmerida tou Kokkalh se perimenei sthn gwnia kai 8a kanei to "toso" TOSO. Apla, auto pou akougetai MESA sto ghpedo (kai eidika apo thn meria ths 4) 8ewreitai oti ekfrazei "olon ton PAOktsidiko lao", enw auto pou syzhtietai sta kafenia, paramenei "proswpikh apopsi".

Tetarton, symfwnw oti h dioikhsh prepei otan kanei dhlwseis na tis kanei kai pra3eis. Apla egw den nomizw oti h dhlwsh eixe stoxo ton prwta8lhth mia fyllada me thn opoia den prepei re paidi mou na asxolh8oume ka8olou kai pote... kai to 3anagrafw, oti kai na ekane mynhsh sthn efhmerida h PAE, pali oi misoi 8a legame "koita dioikhsh me @@ pou exoume" kai oi alloi misoi 8a legame "koita @@ dioikhsh pou exoume"...

Telos, gia paiktes pou agapane thn fanela ktl. symfwnw pws ayta anoikoun se alles epoxes kai apoteloune e3aireseis ston kanona shmera.

Gia na kleisw, pisteyw pws to paixnidi twn dhlwsewn-entypwsewn to xasame monoi mas oi PAOKtshdes. Xwris na 8elw na krinw thn anakoinwsh ths G4 pou bgalate, kai prospa8ontas na kanw kaloproaireth kritikh (kai na epaner8w kai sto topic twn anakoinwsewn sas), rwtaw to e3hs:

Mhpws h anakoinwsh pou bgalate prin ton agwna fortwse to klima? Mhpws h anakoinwsh sas elege to aytonohto? Oti dhladh prepei o PAOK na pai3ei me pa8os kai na parei thn nikh? 8a mou peis "kala re Giannh, na mhn poume to aytonohto, na mhn poume oti zhtame thn nikh?" Dikio 8a exeis, alla giati den bgalate mia anakoinwsh prin ton agwna "Poulhmenoi paiktes ston PAOK den paizoune. Emeis eimaste sigouroi oti oi paiktes mas 8a pai3oun gia thn nikh me pa8os, kai oti ane3arthtws apotelesmatos 8a timhsoun thn fanela pou forane". Lew egw twra...

Ant'autou milwntas gia Bardinogiannhdes kai prassines diaithsies, fortwneis thn kerkida agxos, pernas to mynhma oti o bazelos einai to idio (an oxi megalyteros) antipalos kai "ex8ros" me ton gauro, kai ti kataferneis?

Na kaneis ton PAOKtsh na asxolh8ei me tous gaurobazelous, kai na skeftetai poion eunoei kai poion oxi to apotelesma tou agwna ths Toumpas, anti na asxolh8ei me thn idia thn omada. Kai mh mou peis pws asxolh8hke o PAOKtshs me ton PAOK se ekeinon ton agwna... Me o,ti 8es asxolh8hke ektos apo ton PAOK. Giati h PRWTH tou antidrash, me to pou teleiwse to mats, htan na anarwth8ei "re mpas kai to poulhsame to mats?" Me to pou mphke to prwto gkol, posoi skefthkan "ton gamissame ton bazelo pou h8ele kai prwta8lhma", kai posoi sthn isofarish skefthkan arage "astous na ta broune meta3y tous twra"?

Tespa, mperdemena ta grafw, kai isws de bgainei kai nohma. Pros 8eou mh nomiseis oti ta fortwnw sthn G4 gia thn anakoinwsh ths h oti rixnw ey8ynes gia otidhpote, elpizw na egrapsa arketa katanohta gia na mh bgaleis ayto to symperasma. Gia mena to problhma paramenei h pantelhs elleich epikoinwnias meta3y PAOKtshdwn. Eite autoi einai stous syndesmous, eite anorganwtoi stis kerkides, eite sthn omada paiktes, eite sthn dioikhsh paragontes.

Den yparxei MIA fwnh pou otan milaei na skepazei me deos ton planhth.

Eimaste akoma sto stadio twn "fytwn", twn "allhtwn" kai twn "maxhtwn".

Ayta...

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polla 8emata epiases gate4 kai 8a kanw megalo post!  

epiasa to mai, eipa na piasw kai polla themata

1. diafwnoume gia tous paiktes, den trexei tipota. egw den eimai upoxrewmenos na xeirokrotisw kapoion pou me gurnaei tin plati. ton euxomai oti kalutero, ton kobw ta perissotera eisitiria, frontizw to eu zin tou. ws ekei. kai ton euxaristw otan me dikaiwnei. otan den me dikaiwnei den trexei tipota.

2. den uparxei paiktis simaia ston Paok. kai den fainetai kati tetoio ston orizonta.

3. as eimaste realistes. to paixnidi den to exase o kosmos to exase i omada. auti esbise sto 30, oxi o kosmos. o kosmos ekane oti mporese. sto 90+ kerdizoume plagio mprosta stin 6. to gipedo ksesikwnetai kai o malakas ti petaei se amuntiko tou pao. imarton re file! den mporese i omada ti allo na kanei o kosmos? to malaka?
auto pou ginetai mesa sto gipedo pernaei stin kerkida. ti allo na ekane to gipedo? na mpei na paiksei?
akoustike ena sunthima, malakia oswn to fwnaksane, alla den tha tous staurwsoume kiolas. allwste mprosta se alla "polulimenoi" kai "einai stimeno" allwn epoxwn, itan san paidiki xorwdia. kai esbise me to pou fwnaxtike. to gipedo prostateutike, den eixame 38 traumatismous opws sto mats me tin aek, o kosmos den itan stin atlia katastasi methis pou itan me tin aek. auta einai pio simantika apo ena xazosunthima pou oi perissoteroi otan to ksanaskeftika to autoaneresan (elpizw)

4. i "anakoinwsi" elege kati autonoito. den goustaroume to bardinoyanni kai ton pao. allos to katalabainei allos oxi. gia na min sunexisei na to metafrazei o kathenas opws ton boleuei prosthesame meta apo mia mera to bokolo me to salpigidi apo to 1-2 vs osfp kai to to autonoito, oti exoume apoluti empistosuni stin omada. ara ti? opoios blepei aspromaura den allithwrizei oute kokkina oute prasina. diladi ti na grafame? kuriaki giorti kai sxoli na tan i bdomada oli? epeidi kapoious tous boleue na to pernane opws theloun gia einai kalumenoi kai gia ton 1 kai gia to X kai gia to 2?
ti deutera meta to paixnidi ta spor exoun ekswfullo. G4: theloume ton PAok monimo prwtathliti. kai to mesimeri o grigoriadis (ferefwno tou goumenou) bgainei kai leei, i G4 leei oti oi paoixtes einai poulimenoi!
kai kati allo. to mats mas endiefere kai praktika. asxeto an ithelan na mas kanoun na to ksexasoume. ante twra pasi thusia niki me xalkidona, otan prin apo 1 mina eixe 30 bathmous diafora me tin aek.

5. to problima einai oti kalliergeite mia anasfaleia ston Paok, les kai o Paok einai kamia omada tis geitonias. opoios blepei ton PAok opws ton osfp kai ton pao (isodunamo se epipedo dunamikis) den mporei na aisthanete tin anasfaleia oti to mellon tou Paok kremetai apo mia koubenta, ena sxolio kai mia pithanon antitheti apopsi. ena tilefwnima sto tade radio, i mia xazomara sto deina entupo.
 auti tin anasfaleia poios tin kalliergei? mporeis na me peis? to klima tha fortwnotan outws i allws. an ta blepeis ola AM tous grafeis olous sta @@ kai ton les, pousti tha se skisw. den uposxese se pao kai osfp, min stenaxwrieste tha sas steilw sta baraz. kai DEN anaferomai se PAIXTES kai PROPONITIKO TEAM.

6. oi asteioi ftasane se simeio na poune oti ta pairnoume mexri kai apo ton kokkali. omws i omada sti nea smurni ektos apo ton kosmo den eixe kanenan allo. o xontro mpeos proaspistike ta sumferonta tou niwnou. ton Paok poios ton uperaspistike? gia pes me na mathw ki egw.

7. kleinw giati prepei na paw apo basilissis sofias kai prigkipos nikolaou. mas afinei kathe deutera bradu 20 eurw se ena fakelo o loubaris, mesa se ena kado apo skoupidia. duskoloi kairoi, ti na kaneis file. pouliesai kai gia ena 20ariko ama laxei.

Cheers!

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KWLOKALAMARIAS TO ANAGNWSMA.

filtate MakPTol, logw ilikias kai agwnistikotitas tha thumasai fantazomai to xameno prwtathlima mesa stin kwloberoia. autoi pou anoigane ta podia tous sto POK ta dwsane ola kai se kopsane to prwtathlima. kai den exoun perasei oute 15 xronia. eimai sigouros pws to thumasai. egw pantws den tha to ksexasw pote. to 3o prwtathlima mou esbise mesa stin kwloberoia.
na pane na gamithoune oloi tous.
kai oi indianoi tis kwlokalamarias pou pigane kai kanane kerkida gia ton poseidwna newn porwn kai aurio gia ton poseidwna aporwn. kai oi genitsaroi pou bgazoun blepe amanatidi, kai oi paiktes pou den se dwsane pote alla tous kanane pasa sto POK kai to antipaoktsidiko menos tous.
larisses, serres, kastories nai. akadimaika. i poutana i beroia kai i kwlokalamaria na sbisoun apo to xarti. xilies fores stin athina na blepoun kai oi xiliades athinaioi Paoktsides ton PAOK 6-7 fores to xrono.
kserw oti me katalabaineis. eite sumfwneis eite oxi.

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dhladh (synopsizw) to A kai to W (ante na leipei kanena gramma kapou sth mesh) twn kakwn tou PAOK gia sas (mias kai h proswpikh sou gnwmh ekfrazei kai ton syndesmo opws les) ayth th stigmh einai h dioikhsh kai h anikanothta ths?

D.

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ellinika ksereis. den nomizw na se egrapsa tipota gia to A kai W twn kakwn tou PAOK, auti ti stigmi. ektos ki an thes na se pw kati pou egw den exw kamia diathesi na se pw.i an perimeneis na se pw oti ksereis nai i dioikisi ftaei gia ola i G4 tha swsei ton PAOK apo ola ta problimata tou.giati i G4 einai san tin coca cola, paei me ola kai briskei lusi se ola ta problimata.  eilikrina den perimena na mas thewreis toso malakes. an exeis kanena problima me to sundesmo pes to kollite, min to kratas mesa sou. pes to kai tha se apantisw. alla min thewreis toso malaka. den leei.

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kai diko sou problima na min einai kai na sto exei metaferei allos, pes to kathara. tha se apntisw sta isia. kai otan anaferomai se problima, anaferomai se problimatismo, gia namin parekseigithoume kai se auto.

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den exw kanena apolytws problhma me ton syndesmo. se rwthsa kati aplo. Den eipa oti pisteueis oti h g4 8a swsei ton PAOK oute to yponohsa kai menw ekplhktos pou pisteueis oti eipa kati tetoio...

Na to parafrasw loipon mias kai to "A ws W" to 8ewrhses esfalmena "sponta".

Pisteueis/euete oti to kyriws problhma auth th stigmh ston PAOK einai h dioikhsh?

H erwthsh den krybei kamia "pagida". Des thn entelws kaloproaireta, apo enan apo tous xilliades PAOKtshdes tou e3wterikou pou den 3erei akribws ti pisteuei o syndesmos sas. Pes re paidi mou oti erxomai sta grafeia sas gia na graftw, kai rwtaw: Re paidia, kala ola ayta, alla pio pisteuete oti einai to kyriws problhma auth th stigmh ston PAOK?

D.