www.paokg4.org - οπαδικό site που δεν ανήκει όμως στον Σ.Φ. ΠΑΟΚ Θύρα 4 (για την αποφυγή παρεξηγήσεων)

[Londrezos]

Diavasa me poly prosoxh to katastoixo sth selida: http://www.paokg4.org

Ta perissotera shmeia toy me vriskoun 1000% sumfwno alla exw na parathrhsw alla kai na rwthsw ta ekshs:

1) Syzhth8hkan oi protaseis peri plexi-glass, statikhs ktlp kata tis synanthseis twn syndesmwn me dioikhsh?

2) 8a mporouse na htan/einai kleisth h G4 logw ergwn me OFH AEK kai PANA8HNAIKO fetos?

3) 8elw na pistevw oti h ptwsh twn paidiwn mas (an kai perimenw kapoioi poy htan aytoptes martyres na vgoun kai na poyn pws egine to tragiko symvan) proklh8hke apo to pa8os kai thn trella twn opadwn mas meta thn epiteyksh toy 2ou goal kai oxi apo ta axrista syrmatoplegmata  kai sapiokagkela ths Toumpas.
Ptwseis dystyxws symvainoun se polla ghpeda akoma kai sto OAKA pou den yparxoun kagkela.

EINAI EYKAIRIA NA TRIKSOUME LIGO TA DONTIA THS DIOIKHSHS ALLA KAI THS POLITEIAS MPAS KAI FILOTIMH8OUN KAI EPEMVOUN WSTE NA MHN APLWNOUME LOULOUDIA ANTI GIA PANO STHN G4...

*Ta teleytaia nea apo to iatriko anakoinw8en einai oti h katastash toy Vaggelh einai sta8erh kai krisimh enw toy Giwrgou parousiazei veltiwsh kai ayrio anamenetai na apodiaswlhnw8ei.

^{Vaggelh-Giwrgo zoume sthn Toumpa na sas ksanadoume...}

[Matador]

Poly kalh h anakoinwsh. Deixnei pikra, aganakthsh, orgh, koinwnhkotita kai leei MEGALES ALHTHIES.
H teleutaia paragrafos ta xalase ligaki. Oxi kai euroligourides re paidia. Nomizw oti adikei ton kosmo tou Paok.

To 8ema einai oti to ghpedo einai pampalaio kai anasfales kai exoun pesei kai alloi apo ekei kata to parel8on.

PREPEI NA APAITHSOUME EDW KAI TWRA KAINOURGIO GHPEDO XWRIS KAGKELA KAI TA LOIPA SYNAFH.

O 8EOS MAZI SAS RE PALHKARIA!
 

[LoGotHeTiS]

xereis i thira -4- einai o monos sindesmos pou den epithimei tin evrwpaiki kataksiwsi tou PAOK...Den einai evrwligourides,futa san k emas...

Evrwligourides einai kai oi ''me to etsi me to thelw to prwtathlima to exoune stimeno gia fto paok pexe topi na paramilaei oli i evrwpi..."

EVRWLIGOURIDES KAI AFTOI POU EVALAN TON SALPIGKIDI NA KOUNAEI TIN FANELA SAN TO SENTONI STO EXWFILO??

KAI posa akoma simeia na anaferw mesa stin efimerida sas..

<kaneis apo mas de thelei na skeftete oti o paok tha meinei ektos twn xrisoforwn omilwn tou cl>

posa alla...

Exw polla na pw gia olous tous sundesmous k tin organwsi sas ston agwna me tin aek alla exe hari pou eimai toso exuthenomenos sinesthimatika apo tin peripeteia pou exoun ta aderfia k den einai i wra na pw kati gi afta..

EYRWLIGOURIDES EINAI KAI AFTOI POU PROSILTHAN STO IPOKRATEIO GIA AIMODOSIA??


tespa..DEN THELW NA PISTEVW K ISWS DEN PISTEVW oti k se aftin tin stigmi agwniate k gia ton polemo entiposewn...

alla den antexw re gmt..diladi ma kritikarw k egw to keimenaki pou exete stin efimerida gia ton sindesmo tis alexandrias imatheias...Tetoies wres...k isws eseis mporesete na panigirisete pou tha xeperasete ta parartimata twn makedonwn...

Lete kati gia tin fimi se agwna tis latsio k xerw gw k xerw gw...Dld einai toso apanthrwpos o laos tou paok pou se mia parwmia fimi tha sinexize na panigirizei..Pou apo tous 30000 ..10 atoma ixeran poso sovara itan ta aderfia..5 metra eimoun apo kei k den ixera...

mallon τοτε κατι πολυ σαπιο υπαρχει στη κοινωνια μας,evrwligourides paoktsides..Gia afto allaxte oloi omada... ginete oloi THIRA 4!(mia k iparxoun oi sindesmites tis organwsis k oi alloi...)

[Ouzounis]

Ego ksero oti kapote pethane o proponhths ths omadas mas sthn mesh enos agwna......kai synexisame me thn nikh kai eimai sigouros panigyristike.

LATHOS KANW???

Oloi oi PAOKTSHDES gia auta ta paidia milame... exoume filotimo..
Ti laos eimaste to dixnoume kathe xrono sta mnymosena sthn Toumba yia ta xamena paidia mas.....

Den boroume na kathgorame mono yiati boroume.

Merikes fores tha htan kalytera na mhn eixame "apopsh". Na mhn bgazama "anakoinoseis"...


Perastika stous duo.

[MAKPTOL]

Ego ksero oti kapote pethane o proponhths ths omadas mas sthn mesh enos agwna......kai synexisame me thn nikh kai eimai sigouros panigyristike.

LATHOS KANW???

Oloi oi PAOKTSHDES gia auta ta paidia milame... exoume filotimo..
Ti laos eimaste to dixnoume kathe xrono sta mnymosena sthn Toumba yia ta xamena paidia mas.....

Den boroume na kathgorame mono yiati boroume.

Merikes fores tha htan kalytera na mhn eixame "apopsh". Na mhn bgazama "anakoinoseis"...


Perastika stous duo.

φιλε oyzoyni συμφωνω απολυτα με αυτα που λες
ειμουνα στο ματς ΠΑΟΚ-ΓΑΒΡΟΣ οπου επαθε ανακοπη
ο ΛΟΡΑΝΤ λιγο πριν το ημιχρονο και μετα το τελος του
αγωνα μαθαμε οτι πεθανε ......
ε μην μας τρελενουν μερικοι που βγαζουν αυτες τις
χαζομαρες και μαλιστα σοβαρολογουν .................
ε οχι ρε παιδια .......μην λετε βλακειες εσεις ειστε
οι σωστοι και εμεις οι απανθρωποι οι ευρολιγουριδες
στειλατε και την ανακοινωση στον μπραουδακη γνωστο
αντιπαοκτση  ΚΑΙ ΓΙΑ ΠΡΩΤΗ ΦΟΡΑ ΕΠΑΙΝΕΣΕ ΟΤΙΔΗΠΟΤΕ
ΣΥΜΒΑΙΝΕΙ ΚΑΙ ΕΧΕΙ ΣΧΕΣΗ ΜΕ ΤΟΝ ΠΑΟΚ.........
ΝΑΙ ΡΕ ΞΥΠΝΙΕ ΕΙΜΑΙ ΕΥΡΟΛΙΓΟΥΡΗΣ ΓΙΑΤΙ ΘΕΛΩ ΤΗΝ ΟΜΑΔΑ
ΜΟΥ ΣΤΑ ΕΥΡΩΠΑΙΚΑ ΣΑΛΟΝΙΑ ....ΑΝ ΕΣΥ  ΔΕΝ ΤΗΝ ΘΕΣ
ΥΠΟΣΤΗΡΙΞΕ ΑΛ ΑΧΛΙ ΤΗΣ ΑΙΓΥΠΤΟΥ.....

[MAKPTOL]

Λυπαμε πραγματικα για αυτην την ανακοινωση ....
ΠΑΙΔΙΑ ΑΛΑΞΤΕ ΣΥΝΤΑΚΤΗ ΤΩΝ ΑΝΑΚΟΙΝΩΣΕΩΝ ....
την θεωρω απαραδεκτη και προσβλητικη για ολο
τον λαο του ΠΑΟΚ αυτον που αποφασισε να επιστρεψει
στο γηπεδο και ΧΩΡΙΣ ΑΥΤΟΝ ΔΕΝ ΜΠΟΡΕΙ ΝΑ ΞΑΝΑΓΙΝΕΙ
Ο ΠΑΟΚ ΑΥΤΟ ΠΟΥ ΗΤΑΝ ΚΑΠΟΤΕ .........

[ALEX]

tin anakoinosi tin exo diavasi kamia 5-6 fores kai den mporo para na min simfoniso mazi sas pu theorite autin tin anakoinosi aparadekti.me kaliptune ta sxolia sas

[tiore]

katarhin na pw oti simfwnw me polla shmeia alla to atomo pou tin egrapse mperdepse tin poutsa me tin vourtsa se kapoia fash isopedwnontas ta panta

diladi i 4 ti to paizei?

ti ahdies einai aytes re, einai dinaton na grafete tetoies malakies tetoia wra?
ola kala osa lete gia dioikish ktl, alla ayto me ton kosmo pou kolaei?
ehei euthini aytos pou kathotane stin 7 kai stin 6 kai den pire habari tipota? tha trelathoume teliws diladi? edw egw eimouna stin 4 kai den pirame habari ti egine ... re si alani sigrafea tis anakoinwsis...ti ipies re?

kai epanalamvanw, simfwnw sto 90% oswn grafei i anakoinwsh alla auto to 10% pou diafwnw kai kyriws o xronos pou epilexane na tin vgaloune mou deihnei oti oi idioi pou tin grapsane mono gia ton kosmo den endiaferontai, para mono gia ton party tous i estw na apodeixoune apla  oti einai diaforetikoi apo olous tous allous....

[HOMOPAOKUS]

Diavaza kai ksanadiavaza thn selida 2 ths efhmeridas ths 8yras4 x8es to proi, xoris na ksero oti hdh exei perastei sto forum mas kai hdh anoikse dialogos. Den pisteya sta matia moy!
Epeidh prosopika gia mena proexei PANTA h enothta ton PAOKtshdon, meta apo pollh skepsh exo na sxoliaso kaloproaireta ta ekshs:
a)H anakoinosh moy dhmioyrgei 8lipsh. Ballei kata dikaion kai adikon. Kseftylizei to synolo ton PAOKtshdon ADIKONTAS TOYS KATAFORA. Ego hmoyn sthn 8yra 5 kai den katalaba TIPOTA apo to peristatiko. Oyte kan to deytero goal mporesa na do eksaitias ton kapnogonon.
b)Gia logoys enothtas den 8elo na sxoliaso grammh-grammh thn anakoinosh sta perissotera shmeia ths opoias diafono ka8eta.
c)Nomiza oti o syntakths ths anakoinoshs katafer8heke enation panton logo synais8hmatikhs fortishs. Ayto mporei na einai an8ropino kai katanohto. Epishs pisteya oti den eixe thn egkrish toy Syndesmoy alla aphxoyse prosopikes apopseis.Alla pros megalh moy apogohteysh akoysa thn x8esinh meshmerianh radiofonikh ekpomph, opoy dystyxos- gia mena -anti na ta "mazepsoyn" kapos, epikyrosan thn anakoinosh kai oksynan akoma perissotero ta pragmata.
d)H anakoinosh ayth gia mena htan atyxh. Ayto den shmainei oti akyrono oles tis anakoinoseis h oloklhrh thn prosfora toy istorikoy aytoy syndesmoy. Diafono bebaia kai se POLLES alles energeies kai anakoinoseis toy parel8ontos alla den einai ayto to 8ema mas. Alloste opos proeipa gia mena metraei perissotero h enothta ton PAOKtshdon kai oxi o dhmosios dialogos gia "ta toy oikoy mas."
e)Kata thn prosopikh moy gnomh h 8yra 4 prepei na labei ypopsin ths tis antidraseis kai na problhmatistei.
f)telos den nomizo oti xreiazetai na po tipota gia ta aytonohta sta opoia symfonei o ka8enas (...)

[LoGotHeTiS]

...

[kostas4]

me auta pou leei gia to gipedo simfwnw apolyta.me auta pou leei gia ton kosmo omos ena exw na pw sta FYTA tis thyras4.mesa se auton ton kosmo isastan kai eseis.egw imoun sxetika konta otan epesan ta paidia kai oute katalava ti egine.apla eida ena asfenoforo na mpainei kai na xanafeugei.pou na xerei o kosmos oti ta paidia xaropaleuoun?kai alles polles fores exei mpei asthenoforo mesa pire kapoious kai efyge pws egw kai o kathenas mporoume na xeroume ti ginete?stamataw edw giati tetoies wres den kanei na leme polla.
pantws den anikw se KANENAN syndesmo.

[apaoki13]

Ela na xalarwsoume ligo. Panw sta nevra kai thn lyph ginontai polla akomh kai astoxes epistoles. Ayto pou leei o Homo einai to basiko. ENWTHTA. Ayto pou me xalase perissotero emena einai to shmerino prwtoselido ths kwloefhmeridas ALHTIKH ths boreiou Ellados. Mporei na mhn poulaei fila alla prwtoselida san ki ayta dhmiourgoun xeiristew entypwseis.


 To basiko einai na ginoun kalla ta paidia kai ola t' alla 8a ta broume

[ALEX]

opos eipe kai o @homopaokus anti na vgune kai na pune oti pano stin sinesthimatiki fortisi ginane lathi aftoi ta iperaspizonte ara mallon den anagnorizone to lathos pu kanane.

[pavlosk]

Ean thelei kapoios na diafwnisei me thn sygekrimmenh epistolh ths gate4 mporei na to kanei, alla den mporei na thn kathgorhsei oti den noiazete gia tis tyxes tou ghpedou pou legete toumpa.

To mono pou kai kata thn dikh mou gnwmh einai atyxes einai h paragrafos gia ton kosmo, pou sigoura den hksere ti paixthke me ta dyo atyxa paidia.

Oso gia to CL yparxei eidiko topic opou ekrazontai kapoioi fovoi gia to ean telika tha symmetoxoume h oxi. Pantws to CL einai kalo ALLA den einai TITLOS ! ! ! !

pavlosk

[kostas4]

@pavlosk: opws tha deis ta perissotera replys symfwnoun me osa leei i anakoinwsi gia to gipedo.alla auta pou lene gia ton kosmo tou PAOK einai emetika kai aisthanomai ntropi pou enas istorikos syndesmos evgale tetoia anakoinwsi

[petrovgr]

Re paidia anakoinwsh einai.Allos symfwnei kai allos oxi.Apo ti stigmi pou les ''ekfrazw apopsi'' krinesai.Thetika i arnitika.Egw ayti tin anakoinwsi STO SYNOLO THS thn krinw thetika.Mporei alloi (kai na einai pleiopsifia) na tin krinoun arnitika,sto synolo tis h se shmeia.

1) Den mporei na ftaine oloi gia to sygkekrimeno gegonos.Ayto ennoeitai.Anaferetai h anakoinwsh (etsi tin ermineyw egw) s'aytous pou ikseran oti eixan ginei ta gegonota kai ''panhgyrizan sa gidia''.

2)O Ilie Dumitresku gia 5 lepta stamatise na proponei tin omada tou kai na asxoleitai ousiastika me to mats giati fwnaze gia giatro kai asxolountan me to sygkekrimeno peristatiko,kati pou apodeiknyei oti den htan oloi ''anypopsiastoi'' gia to sygkekrimeno gegonos.Apo oti diavasa kai se post tou chris eixan kinitopoiithei arketa atoma sti thyra pou voithisan tous traymaties.Ti ftaine oi alloi stis alles thyres? apolytws tipota... an kai den nomizw na anaferetai se aytous h anakoinwsi.

3)''επενδυτες με αδεια πορτοφολια, κουτραδοροι,
λεζαντακηδες, προσκλησακηδες,
κατακρινουν και χαρακτηριζουν παιδια που μαζευουν
ολη τη βδομαδα χαρτζηλικι για να πανε στο γηπεδο να
δουνε την ομαδα τους.
παιδια που δεν θα αξιωθουνε ποτε
να μπουνε στο γηπεδο δωρεαν,
οπως κανουν αυτοι συστηματικα εδω και χρονια.''

Diafwnei kaneis s'ayto???

4)Prin krinoume kathe gegonos prepei na krinoume kai thn perirreousa atmosfaira.Ta proxtesina gegonota htan parallhlla me tis italias.Ekei ypirkse alliwtiki kinitopoiisi.Giayto kai to anapofeykta sygkritiko klima tis anakoinwsis.

5)Na xalarwsoume oloi kai na min kanoume toso asximous xaraktirismous.Eseis lete oti paradexeste ti Thyra 4 gia tin ews twra stasi tis enw diafwneite me tin sygkekrimeni anakoinwsi tis.Egw lew oti mexri twra eixa arnitiki eikona gia tis kiniseis tis Thyras 4,kai stin sygkekrimeni periptwsi vlepontas to genika symfwnw! Ti prepei na ginei? na malwsoun oloi metaksy tous?
Gia kathe apopsi pou leme krinomaste.Apla na katevasoume ligo tonous

[gate4]

basika osoi diabazontas tin anakoinwsi exoun tin entupwsi pws anaferete stis 35K kosmou, tous enimerwnoume oti i anakoinwsi anaferete stis polles ekatontades pou eixan amesi antilipsi tou gegonotos kai oxi sto sunolo tou gipedou. pws tha mporouse px na anaferete se kapoion pou itan stin 7, stin 8, stin 4 kok. kata ta upoloipa i anakoinwsi den allazei oute se ena gramma.
gia ta upoloipa pou grafontai tha parete tin apantisi sas alla akoma den einai wra.
kai kati proswpiko. epeidi me endiaferei i gnwmi twn megaluterwn, thelw na rwtisw kati ton filo MAKPTOL. file eisai se mia ilikia pou pithanon na exeis oikogeneia. anikeis se mia genia pou exei apodeiksei pws gnwrizei ti tha pei sebasmos.
an tin kuriaki, eblepes to gio sou sto gipedo, na trwei loukaniko kai na roufaei coca cola kai na sxoliazei apo ta 2 metra, duo (sxedon) ptwmata, an o gios sou eblepe to aima na kulaei apo to anoigmeno kranio tou baggeli kai meta apo 15 lepta eixei tin idia sumperifora me auti pou eixe otan mpike sto gipedo, pws tha eniwthes?
tha thewrouses to gio sou perifano paoktsi?
tha mporouses na basisteis se ena tetoio paoktsi gia ton exeis dipla sou sto gipedo i se mia ekdromi?
eilikrina me endiaferei i apopsi sou kai mono i diki sou.

anyway, ena megalo euxaristw se olous pou xarisate estw kai mia proseuxi sta paidia kai xari sti dikia sas agapi tha sunexisoun na pigainoun kalutera. oti kalutero se sas kai tis oikogeneies sas.

[tomkar]

basika osoi diabazontas tin anakoinwsi exoun tin entupwsi pws anaferete stis 35K kosmou, tous enimerwnoume oti i anakoinwsi anaferete stis polles ekatontades pou eixan amesi antilipsi tou gegonotos kai oxi sto sunolo tou gipedou. pws tha mporouse px na anaferete se kapoion pou itan stin 7, stin 8, stin 4 kok. kata ta upoloipa i anakoinwsi den allazei oute se ena gramma.

file gate4, de nomizw oti toulaxiston opws einai grammenh h anakoinwsh na katalavainei kaneis oti anafereste se aytes tis ekantontades pou ikseran gia to gegonos.. Opws einai diatypwmenh anaferetai se olous osous htan sto gipedo.. kai oxi mono..
mallon ayth thn paratirisi prepei na thn kanete dhmosia..

proswpika symfwnw se polla, alla  h anakonwsh mou fanike astoxh genikws kai grammeni katw apo entona synaisthimata gia ta paidia pou opws einai fisiologiko oloi niwthoume..

oso gia to sxolio gia to  lacio-roma einai episis astoxo, afou  an rwtiseis italous kseroun oti kathe xrono ginontai ta idia kai to paixnidi tis mises fores kontevei na mhn teleiwsei etsi ki alliws..

[Dragon4]

Afou oloi eseis katalavainete oti i upervoli tis anakoinwsis ofeiletai se sunaisthimatiki fortisi
Afou oloi eseis sumfwneite me to megalutero meros tis
TI STO DIAOLO EPIMENETE NA THN KATAKRINETE?

Ante ksekolliste,miliste gia to kako pou mas brike,ki oxi na ksespathwnete giati se kapoia asafeia tis i anakoinwsi mporei na sas xaraktirise gidia kai futa

Den anikw se kanena sundesmo,gia auto 1 logos parapanw na SEVOMAI KAI NA 8AUMAZW olous autous pou trexoun kai dinoun to einai tous gia tin omada eite legontai 8YRA 4 eite MAKEDONES ktl.

Bravo sti 8YRA 4 gia tin anakoinwsi tis kai tous agwnes tis

BOH8A 8EE MOY TA 2 PAIDIA MAS NA GINOYN KALA

[ksts]

1:Prin to mats Roma-Lazio
i' Lazio -Roma egine tis poutanas to kagkelo
me kapou 200 travmaties kai 2 sovara
kata ti diarkeia dolofonikwn epithesewn
me maxairia,ekriktika(edw magkes skane
kati san vomves sto gipedo,o gate4 to kserei,
den einai krotiditses san aftes pou petane oi ellines)
kai oti allo mporei na fantastei o anthrwpinos nous.
Meta, sto imixrono kikloforise i fimi
oti skotwsane oi carabinieri ena mwro,to patisane me
peripoliko gia tin akriveia, kai ksesikwthikan oloi oi fanatikoi apo ta 2 petala
kia zitisane anavoli tou mats kati to opoio petixane.
Poioi?oi idioi pou kapoies wres prin mono apo tixi
den allilosfaxtikane metaksi tous kai me tin astinomia!

Gi'afto mou fainetai ligo asxetos o paralilismos anamesa
sta 2 gegonota.

2:Na sevastei poios kai ti tin wra pou egine to atixima?
   Aftoi pou pernoune kati kotrwnia stin 4a(milame gia
terasties petres)kai ta petane mprosta tous sta 4-5 metra
(eipame,einai poli varia kotrwnia)ki opoion parei o xaros?
Otan ginontai tetoies malakies den vlepw na milaei kanenas.

   I'na sevastoune kati aftoi pou sprwxnoune san ta zwa
otan eimaste stin oura gia na mpoume gipedo?kai xairontai
oloi me to tzertzele pou ginetai anti na arxisoune na
mpinelikiazoune.Fisika kaneis den milaei kai pali gi afta.
den einai makria i tragwdia magkes otan se enan xwro
sigkentrwnontai 30-35000 atoma.Eidika otan mia merida
den exei sinaisthisi.