PARTIZAN & PAOK The strongest Friendship

[Suicidal]

thanks once again for the cool pics !

anyhow you have something to celebrate !

[juznifront]

This season was very bad season. We only celebrated basketball title.

[Δικέφαλος]

Congratulations on your title. A title is always good.
This season has been very bad for PAOK as well.
The only thing PAOK fans celebrated is the arrival of Savvidis. Celebration took place at the airport. 

[juznifront]

Interview with PAOK fans (translation):

At the basketball game in Pionir between Partizan and FMP were also PAOK fans. Six of them wanted to strengthen even more long-term friendship between PAOK and Partizan fans.

What is the reason for your coming at the Partizan game?
• We came because these boys have never been so far at the Partizan game. We all know about the friendship between PAOK and Partizan fans and by coming to this game we wanted to make it even stronger.

So, this is your first visit to Belgrade?
• The first time especially at the game, but we have been in Belgrade several times.

Six of you came, are you members of PAOK fan groups?
• A few of us are from Neapoli, and the rest are not in any group. That is a group of about 30 people that are friends and they all go to the games together. We go mostly by train or car.  Some of them were members of the Gate 4, Stavrupoli (one of the biggest hooligan groups – 50 guys, but their club is now closed), Northeners.
What is your impression of Belgrade
• Belgrade is a very nice city. People are by temperament similar to Greek people in Thessaloniki. We have seen the whole city and hope to come again. We think that people are here very friendly and hospitable. We hope that we would be good hosts to you when you come to Greece.

What is your impression of Grobari?
• They are crazy for their club. They talk about it all the time and follow it everywhere. We think that beside all difficulties they are one of the best fans in Europe.

How do you see the continuation of friendship between PAOK and Partizan fans?
• We hope that the friendship will get stronger. We all want that. Grobari are the only fans outside Greece that we want to be our friends. Those are in fact our only friends and we want it to stay like that. The same colours, the same religion.

Does every PAOK fan feel like this or it’s just an opinion of few of them?
• All PAOK fans talk about it at the moment. When people heard that we were coming to Belgrade, they all wanted to bring them some souvenirs from Grobari. We think that friendship will be stronger in years. Although it all began with individual contacts, and at that time PAOK fans generally liked Grobari.
In the end, one question about PAOK. Since you are in a similar situation like us, you don’t go to the football games because of the President of the Club, tell us something about the current situation? What is your relationship with your President of the Club?
• Two years ago the club got a new president and we hoped that PAOK would be again at the top of Greek football and that it would bring back the title to Thessaloniki. However, many things changed after qualification game for the Champion League against Maccabi. We think that the game was sold, just as you think that Partizan sold its game against Maccabi. The reason for that is that at the game played a player who was grounded and did not have right to play for PAOK. It is a very difficult situation now. Two weeks ago, we entered into premises of the club and we did not allow the President and other employees to enter the club. Around 200 people slept in the club, and about 2000 passed through the club daily. Other fans helped as they could, they brought food, drinks… We played football in the field, slept in VIP rooms. However, 19.05. PAOK fans left the premises. Since the championship was over, we decided to expand the protests in the streets of Thessaloniki and in front of the President’s house. We want the club to be sold, but we do not believe it would happen soon.

[Suicidal]

THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH FOR THE TRANSLATION
 

[juznifront]

Can anyone tell me about friendly games of PAOK? When, where, opponents...? Also about new season in Greek championship (dates and opponents). Thanks in advance.

[Suicidal]

oh my friend. (good morning btw)

we even don't know if we play next season in first or fourth division,
'cause of complicated money problems.

as soon as we know something, be sure that you will hear it.
unfortunally ONE MORE summer period without good feelings about the next season
 

[juznifront]

I saw schedule for the next season:
1 AEK PAOK
2 PAOK IRAKLIS
3 gay-ros PAOK
4 PAOK ERGOTELIS
5 PANATHINAIKOS PAOK
6 PAOK APOLLON K.
7 ARIS PAOK
8 LARISA PAOK
9 PAOK KERKIRA
10 EGALEO PAOK
11 PAOK IONIKOS
12 XANTHI PAOK
13 PAOK PANIONIOS
14 PAOK ATROMITOS
15 OFI PAOK

Can anyone tells me the dates of the game.

[DIMITRITCI]

http://www.sport-fm.gr/special/newsByBetoto.jsp?newsID=52625

[juznifront]

Thanks

[juznifront]

In qualifications for UEFA cup Partizan will play against Maribor from Slovenia. I think we will lose game.

[dynamo-berlin]

In qualifications for UEFA cup Partizan will play against Maribor from Slovenia. I think we will lose game.

Against Maribor? Hell...why that? 

[juznifront]

Because we don't have players. We don't have team. They bought few players from the lower divisions and in 5 friendly games in Germany we won only 1. In 2 frinedly games in Serbia we lost from club from 3rd division and won game against club from 2nd division. And Maribor is good team, they won game against Villarreal.

[dynamo-berlin]

Because we don't have players. We don't have team. They bought few players from the lower divisions and in 5 friendly games in Germany we won only 1. In 2 frinedly games in Serbia we lost from club from 3rd division and won game against club from 2nd division. And Maribor is good team, they won game against Villarreal.

Lets hope that it will come different from you expect. You have many more potential than that "juzni-shvabi", like you can see here  :



 

[Capricorn]

I saw today in a greek sport newspaper from Athens (filathlos) that clashes between partizan and
Red star fans took place leaving one person dead many wounded and 12 arrested.
Is that true?

[juznifront]

Yes, unfortunately 1 Partizan fan died. It was fight between fans of Partizan and Red Star at the stadium of FC Zarkovo (I think 4th or 5th divison). And 1 Red Star fand took knife and cut throat of poor guy. It is not first time this year that fans of Red Star using knives to kill Partizan fans. They alredy killed several Partizan fans by knives. Partizan fans have agreement to not use knives in fights, only their hands, but fucking cowards (Red Star fans) are using knives.

[juznifront]

This is story from 4 Partizan fans in Salonica this saturday (it's in Serbian for now but I will translate in English):

Subota 29.07.2006

Deo ekipe Juznog Fronta koji se zadesio na Ohridu, i nas dvojica sa Thassosa,krenuli smo u posetu navijacima PAOKa koji su ne tome insistirali jos prosle godine.Sada su se sve kockice poklopile i to se i ostvarilo.Trebalo je samo okrenuti par brojeva i najaviti se kao ozbiljna navijacka grupa.Navijaci PAOKa su se iskreno iznenadili jer smo se mi najavili za 2 dana unapred, ali su nas ispostovali maximalno, i dali nam dobar primer kako treba da im uzvratimo dobrodoslicu u Beogradu!
I do sada je to bilo na dobrom nivou,ali ubuduce ce se to ostvarivati na nivou grupe!
Nakon sto smo stigli u Solun sacekala su nas dva momka iz Neapoli FAN Cluba.Iako su bili mladji od nas, za kratko vreme smo se uverili da nisu nimalo naivni.Proveli su nas kroz Solun do stadiona PAOKa gde smo trebali da ubijemo par sati,jer su ljudi iz prve ekipe trebali da stignu sa letovanja, i da nas docekaju.Ipak smo mi stigli malo ranije i umesto zabadanja u neki kafic krenuli smo do Toumbe!
Obisli smo stadion i kupili neke suvenire u PAOK butiku.

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Iznenadili smo se jer smo videli da su svi artikli na snizenju pa si za 40ak evra mogao da pazaris i zimske kape i kackete i zastavu i sal i shushkavac i jos neke sitnice a u Bgdu bi mogao mozda da kupis majicu i shal!
Zatim smo se uputili do dela stadiona gde su spavali navijaci PAOKa pre mesec dana kada su zaposeli prostorije kluba i ceo stadion kao vid bojkota!I dok smo zujali tuda prisli su nam neki likovi koji rade na stadionu i dozvolili nam da udjemo unutra,i napravimo par fotki. I oni su nam uputili poziv da dodjemo na utakmicu Paoka i dali nam raspored svih utakmica i obecanje da karte nece biti problem!!! 

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Pogled na Gate4
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Ulaz G4 (kakav HardCore,do jaja  )

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Pozdravili smo se za ljudima i cuvarima na stadionu i zaputili se u Neapoli Fan Club koji je samo zbog nas otvoren nekoliko sati ranije.Docekali su nas kao rodjenu bracu,odmah se pocelo sa pivom i laganim upoznavanjem i objasnjavanjem slika koje su okacene na zidu.Novinski clanci su uredno poredjani po albumima i svaki opisuje navijace Paoka kao huligane kojima ni sukobi sa mnogobrojnijom policijom nisu strani. Takodje im nije strano ni paljenje 40 hektara kukuruza u koji su usli navijaci Olimpijakosa bezeci od Paokovaca.   


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Pricali smo o svemu, sukobima sa navijacima Olimpijakosa i Arisa ali i sa murijom, i navijackim akcijama!!!Dali smo im majice koje su odradjene u Bgdu sa grbom Paoka i Partizana na grudima!Odusevili su se, i znam da kad bismo imali 100 majica bilo bi malo jer su svi hteli da ih imaju.
Vec smo proveli nekoliko sati u Neapoliju kada su dosli momci koje smo cekali da se vrate u Solun i malo bolje nas uputili u organizciju tribine!!!
Iznenadili smo se kada smo culi da je i kod njih situacija veoma slicna kao na nasem Jugu.Pocev od organizacije, pa do odlazaka na gostovanja i slicno!!!Jedino smo mogli da primetimo da murija nija tako brutalna kao kod nas u policijskoj drzavi, sto im otvara vise prostora za neke akcije i privilegije na stadionu.
Zatim smo otisli na gajbu kod jednog od prvih ljudi gde smo nastavili sa pricom, i zezanjem.
Posto je ekipica iz Ohrida bila umorna od puta do Soluna krenuli su nazad prema Makedoniji i pozdravili se sa momcima!!!

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Nas dvojica smo nastavili da zujimo sa njihovom ekipom po gradu i upoznajemo ljude,izmedju ostalog i predsednika Makedones Fan Cluba, koji je likic od jedno 40tak godina, i zesce je lood!
I opet ista prica, klopa, pice, klopa ,pice i prodje ceo dan i kad je pocelo da svice morali smo da se rastajemo jer su me cekale obaveze na ostrvu!
Dikefale je ostao u Solunu,jer nije imao obaveze a i razumem ga zasto jer sam imao utisak da mi je cao dan prosao kroz par sati!
Dogovor za gostovanje u Atini za mec protiv aeka je napravljen,ali cemo se pre toga videti na prijateljskoj utakmici Paoka i West Ham-a u nedelju.
A tada sledi novi izvestaj!!! 
Do tada pozdrav Grobari!!!


PS. Ovo je soba jednog lika iz Neapoli kluba,i sva je isarana sprejom a po zidovima vise Paokovi shalovi i zastave

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Over&Out

[mixos]

good stuff brothers

[juznifront]

Translation:

Saturday 29.07.2006

One part of the Južni Front group that was at Ohrid and the two of us from Thassos visited PAOK fans, who insisted on our coming. All we had to do was to make some phone calls and explain that we are serious fans. PAOK fans were surprised because we told them 2 days in advance that we were coming, but they greeted us great and gave us an example how we should welcome them in Belgrade!
So far it was at good, but in future it will be at the level of the group!
Two guys from Neapoli fan club waited for us in Thessaloniki when we arrived. Although they are younger than we are, they are not naive at all. They showed us Thessaloniki on our way to PAOK stadium where we waited for people from the first team that were on holidays. Since we came earlier, we did not go to a café but we went to Toumba!
We made a tour of the stadium and bought souvenirs in the PAOK shop.

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We were surprised with discount prices. You could buy winter hats and caps, flag and scarf and plastic raincoats for 40 euros, and in Belgrade for the same amount of money you could buy only a T-Shirt and a scarf!
Then we visited the point at the stadium where PAOK fans slept one month ago when they entered the club’s premises to protest! People working there allowed us to enter the stadium and take some photographs. They also invited us to come to PAOK match and gave us the schedule of all matches and a promise that tickets would not be a problem!!! 

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View of the Gate 4
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Entrance G4 (what a HardCore, great)

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We said goodbye to the people and keepers at the stadium, and went to Neapoli Fan Club that was opened just few hours ago only for us. We were welcomed as brothers. Immediately we got a beer and a detailed explanation of the pictures on the walls. Newspapers articles are neatly arranged by albums and each describes PAOK fans as hooligans who do not run away from the police but stay and fight.

Also, they very well know burning 40 hectares of corn where gay-ros fans were hiding from PAOK fans.

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We talked about everything: about conflicts with gay-ros and Aris fans, about conflicts with the police, about their actions!!! We gave them T-Shirts made in Belgrade with the emblem of PAOK and PARTIZAN on the front! They were thrilled and I know that if we had 100 T-Shirts it would not be enough.
We were already several hours in Neapoli when those guys we have been waiting for arrived.
We were surprised to hear that they also have similar problems at the stands as we do the organization, tours and things. We noticed that their police is not so brutal as ours, which gives them more opportunities for actions and privileges at the stadium. Then we went to the apartment of one of the leaders and continued talking and having fun.
The team from Ohrid was tired from the journey so they left for BYRM.

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The two of us continued to hang with them in the city. We even met the president of Makedones Fan Club, who has about 40 years and is pretty crazy!
We continued drinking, eating, talking, so the whole day passed and in dawn we had to say goodbye because I had to return to the island!
Dikefale stayed in Thessaloniki, because he did not have any obligations, and I would stay because the whole day felt like just few hours!
We arranged to go to Athens at the match AEK-PAOK, but we will see each other before at the friendly match Paok-West Ham on Sunday.
And then you’ll get a new report!!! 

Until then greetings Grobari!!!


PS. This is a room of a guy from Neapoli club, and it is all sprayed out, and there are PAOK scarves and flags on the walls.

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Over & Out

[Suicidal]

fantastic report my friend!
congrats,

and many many thanx for the translation !