PARTIZAN & PAOK The strongest Friendship

[taz_4_trikala]

εχεις κουρασει....συνεχιζε να κραζεις την διοικηση του ΤΕΟ στο forum του μετροπολις και σταματα να διχαζεις εμας και τους αδερφους μας ΠΑΡΤΙΖΑΝΟΥΣ...παρε εσυ το δρομο σου και εμεις το δικο μας....τα τη πρεπει κρατατα για τον εαυτο σου....μυαλοπολιδες και μπλαμπλαμπλαδες......οποιος θελει κανει τη μεταφραση.....για τα αδερφια απο τη ΠΑΡΤΙΖΑΝ....

Το τί κάνω είναι δικιά μου υπόθεση. Απλά δεν θα αφήσουμε να αιματοβαφτεί η ιστορία του ΠΑΟΚ με πληρωμένους δολοφόνους ok;

Αυτό δεν είναι αδελφοσύνη, καφρότητα είναι!!!

Μυαλό δεν πουλάω, όπως λες τη δικιά σου γνώμη, λέω τη δικιά μου ... ή μήπως ο νέος ελεύθερος ΠΑΟΚ που επαγγέλεσαι, απαγορεύει να λές τη γνώμη σου; Αυτή είναι η ελευθερία που πιστεύεις και υπηρετείς; Ενδιαφέρουσα άποψη, αλλά σαν και σένα έχουν δει τα ματάκια μου ...

poet ksereis oti kai egw krazw polles fores aytes tis 8ewreies peri anarxias kai PAOK, peri epeisodiwn kai PAOK, kai telospantwn ola ayta peri PAOK... alla sto sigkekrimeno 8ema exeis megalo la8os... isws opws polloi edw mesa, den eisai gnwsths tou ti akrivws simainei h ADERFIKH FILIA me tous Partizanous.

katarxas na sou pw oti oi Servoi einai o MONOS aderfos LAOS me tous ellhnes... kai oi monoi pou pote den strafikan kata tis elladas... se anti8esh me kati allous 8hden aderfous pou oloi mera se krazoun (vlepe to nhsi ths afrodiths pws to lene).

apo ekei kai pera oi filia me tous Grobary ksekinaei apo to 1988 an den kanw la8os, otan kai paiksame basket sto beligradi me ton Ery8ro Astera, pou sthn kerkida mas htan opadoi ths Partizan...

tespa auta einai ligo poio palia... otan egine to perivoito paixnidi ths AEK sto Beligradi me thn Partizan gia ton polemo, tote oi servoi eixan arnh8ei na einai sthn idia kerkida me tous aektsides, asxeta an anagkastika ekatsan giati tous to zhthse h dioihkhsh. htan mesa enas 8eios mou kai ta kserw ayta.

gia na oloklirwsw loipon kai gia ta prox8esina gegonota, katarxas den kseroume an einai dikoi mas aytoi pou ta kanane. alla kai na htane, min ksexnas oti prin merikous mhnes oi tou Ery8rou Astera mono den skotwsan tous dikous mas sto Beligradi, me fwtovolides kai ta loipa. kai opws ema8a apo enan aderfo Servo sthn Thessalonikh, oi 2 sto magazi tou Peja den htan tyxaia atoma twn opadwn tou ery8rou.
opote kai dikoi mas na einai, den einai plirwmenoi dolofonoi kai alles tetoies pipes... den kserw an exeis paei pote ektos edras, an sou exoun kanei pesimo, an exeis faei ksylo kai ola ta loipa, alla pistepse me otan pa8eis kati tetoio opws perysi sto Beligradi, niw8eis megalh anagkh gia ekdikhsh

ayta!!!

Y.G. fantazomai enhmerw8ikes gia thn organwsh twn servwn kai me posa "opla" skasane sthn Thessalonikh kai to ti egine thn Pempth to vrady...
ayto kai mono deixnei poios eixe er8ei gia epeisodia. allwste an den to gnwrizeis to leofwreio pou den afinan oi mpatsoi na mpei sto gipedo htan mono olympiakoi mesa...

[Poet]

Anyway, i think the police lost a very good chance on Thursday night. They could ask during the exit of the Red Star fans for their passports. So, if someone was Greek, it would be a gay's fun who came here in one purpose only. They could make a list of 30, 40, 50 how many of them were they here, and probably use this list whenever in the future there is a fight at least from gay-ros fans, it is more than sure that these persons will be in such situations and it would be very easy to make a hot list of these persons.

About what exactly happened in Peja's cafe, its true that i don't know many details, about the persons etc. I read about a 12 years old child and his dad and that made me furious. Anyway, what had happened is absolutely unacceptable, whoever was the victim or the victimizer. I can be absolute that the common love for PAOK, or even the "brotherhood" with Grobari, has nothing to do with such practices who are completely opposite with the mentality of PAOK, and what PAOK means, and has to do exclusively with criminals. I don't care which is the favorite team of a criminal.

[manos4]

PAOK-PARTIZAN .......FOREVER TOGETHER.............

[juznifront]

I am sorry I don't understand that you wrote in Greek but I want to say something.
First to poet, Partizan was founded by the army, not by police (cops). But, Red Star was founded by cops. You are wrong my friend.
About your oppinion I respect that. We have brain to think, so you can think without influence of other people and make your own decisions.
I want to say about knfes. Grobari are against using knifes in fights. Just, in last few years we lost 5 friends stabed by knifes, mostly from Red Star fans. Red Star fans started to use knifes in Serbia, not Grobari. I can't say that all Grobari are not using the knifes, but official decision of Grobari is that we don't using knifes.
Red Star fans can't complain about injures in Salonica, because they already did same things, lot of times.
So my friend Poet, be brother with Serbs, with Partizan, Red Star and all the other Serbian fans, it is your oppinion and I don't want to change it. But this is football, this is football fanatism, it is different from politics, wars... I like Greece, but I can't like OSFP, PAO, AEK... I like PAOK. It is different. And I made lot of friends (from PAOK fans) during all this years, for some of them I can say that they mean to me more then brothers, probably they can say the same for me. This is deep thing. Ask yourself what you did for some thing and then say complains. Ask yourself about guys who spent their time, money, health... for this friendship.
After all, even I don't think that this friendship is so perfect, we can do much much better, but I am very happy because I made lot of PAOK friends and it is priceless.

[manos4]

I am sorry I don't understand that you wrote in Greek but I want to say something.
First to poet, Partizan was founded by the army, not by police (cops). But, Red Star was founded by cops. You are wrong my friend.
About your oppinion I respect that. We have brain to think, so you can think without influence of other people and make your own decisions.
I want to say about knfes. Grobari are against using knifes in fights. Just, in last few years we lost 5 friends stabed by knifes, mostly from Red Star fans. Red Star fans started to use knifes in Serbia, not Grobari. I can't say that all Grobari are not using the knifes, but official decision of Grobari is that we don't using knifes.
Red Star fans can't complain about injures in Salonica, because they already did same things, lot of times.
So my friend Poet, be brother with Serbs, with Partizan, Red Star and all the other Serbian fans, it is your oppinion and I don't want to change it. But this is football, this is football fanatism, it is different from politics, wars... I like Greece, but I can't like OSFP, PAO, AEK... I like PAOK. It is different. And I made lot of friends (from PAOK fans) during all this years, for some of them I can say that they mean to me more then brothers, probably they can say the same for me. This is deep thing. Ask yourself what you did for some thing and then say complains. Ask yourself about guys who spent their time, money, health... for this friendship.
After all, even I don't think that this friendship is so perfect, we can do much much better, but I am very happy because I made lot of PAOK friends and it is priceless.

 

[Mentalita4]

εχεις κουρασει....συνεχιζε να κραζεις την διοικηση του ΤΕΟ στο forum του μετροπολις και σταματα να διχαζεις εμας και τους αδερφους μας ΠΑΡΤΙΖΑΝΟΥΣ...παρε εσυ το δρομο σου και εμεις το δικο μας....τα τη πρεπει κρατατα για τον εαυτο σου....μυαλοπολιδες και μπλαμπλαμπλαδες......οποιος θελει κανει τη μεταφραση.....για τα αδερφια απο τη ΠΑΡΤΙΖΑΝ....

Το τί κάνω είναι δικιά μου υπόθεση. Απλά δεν θα αφήσουμε να αιματοβαφτεί η ιστορία του ΠΑΟΚ με πληρωμένους δολοφόνους ok;

Αυτό δεν είναι αδελφοσύνη, καφρότητα είναι!!!

Μυαλό δεν πουλάω, όπως λες τη δικιά σου γνώμη, λέω τη δικιά μου ... ή μήπως ο νέος ελεύθερος ΠΑΟΚ που επαγγέλεσαι, απαγορεύει να λές τη γνώμη σου; Αυτή είναι η ελευθερία που πιστεύεις και υπηρετείς; Ενδιαφέρουσα άποψη, αλλά σαν και σένα έχουν δει τα ματάκια μου ...

poet ksereis oti kai egw krazw polles fores aytes tis 8ewreies peri anarxias kai PAOK, peri epeisodiwn kai PAOK, kai telospantwn ola ayta peri PAOK... alla sto sigkekrimeno 8ema exeis megalo la8os... isws opws polloi edw mesa, den eisai gnwsths tou ti akrivws simainei h ADERFIKH FILIA me tous Partizanous.

katarxas na sou pw oti oi Servoi einai o MONOS aderfos LAOS me tous ellhnes... kai oi monoi pou pote den strafikan kata tis elladas... se anti8esh me kati allous 8hden aderfous pou oloi mera se krazoun (vlepe to nhsi ths afrodiths pws to lene).

apo ekei kai pera oi filia me tous Grobary ksekinaei apo to 1988 an den kanw la8os, otan kai paiksame basket sto beligradi me ton Ery8ro Astera, pou sthn kerkida mas htan opadoi ths Partizan...

tespa auta einai ligo poio palia... otan egine to perivoito paixnidi ths AEK sto Beligradi me thn Partizan gia ton polemo, tote oi servoi eixan arnh8ei na einai sthn idia kerkida me tous aektsides, asxeta an anagkastika ekatsan giati tous to zhthse h dioihkhsh. htan mesa enas 8eios mou kai ta kserw ayta.

gia na oloklirwsw loipon kai gia ta prox8esina gegonota, katarxas den kseroume an einai dikoi mas aytoi pou ta kanane. alla kai na htane, min ksexnas oti prin merikous mhnes oi tou Ery8rou Astera mono den skotwsan tous dikous mas sto Beligradi, me fwtovolides kai ta loipa. kai opws ema8a apo enan aderfo Servo sthn Thessalonikh, oi 2 sto magazi tou Peja den htan tyxaia atoma twn opadwn tou ery8rou.
opote kai dikoi mas na einai, den einai plirwmenoi dolofonoi kai alles tetoies pipes... den kserw an exeis paei pote ektos edras, an sou exoun kanei pesimo, an exeis faei ksylo kai ola ta loipa, alla pistepse me otan pa8eis kati tetoio opws perysi sto Beligradi, niw8eis megalh anagkh gia ekdikhsh

ayta!!!

Y.G. fantazomai enhmerw8ikes gia thn organwsh twn servwn kai me posa "opla" skasane sthn Thessalonikh kai to ti egine thn Pempth to vrady...
ayto kai mono deixnei poios eixe er8ei gia epeisodia. allwste an den to gnwrizeis to leofwreio pou den afinan oi mpatsoi na mpei sto gipedo htan mono olympiakoi mesa...

deste to videaki auto kai prosextestin arhi ton ksirismeno me to kafe mpoufan pou einai me tous opadous tou rs
mipos einai autos apo to magazi tou peja?
4ever2gether

[tsaxtsis]

to 1988 sto beligradi imun paron ke eixame para polus partizanus mazi mas.kaname tote tis protes gnorimies.thimame tote mesa sti poli itan sinexia mazi mas ke mas elegan sinexia gia ta pia simia ine epikindina.tote imun sta 17 ke den ta edina ke poli simasia ayta.eixame pai me tin 4 ena leoforio me menevi tzamal ke sia.tote o manavis prin ftasume sta sinora mas leei:imaste sxoliki ekdromi 5 dimotiku apo to paranesti.opoios exi mazi tu aspra-mayra-kitrina-ble xero go napume na ta petaxi gia na mi dume to beligradi apo kana romantiko iponomo xero go napume!sto girismo to leoforio den ixe fota.tora ti kanume?leei o stratigos oloi mesa xekiname.pame kamia 100 km ke mas stamatai to sxoliko.mas krazun oi mpaskines,manavis:den idame tipote xero go na pume!!!!!!!to gelio tis arkudas

[Fedayn]

Partizan-cukaricki 1-1

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jP8LZkdDOPc (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

[Keskin!]

First to poet, Partizan was founded by the army, not by police (cops). But, Red Star was founded by cops. You are wrong my friend.

sorry army is something better than the cops for you? i can't understand it. are you proud of being founded by the army. for me is just ridiculus cause cops and army are the same shit.

[Suicidal]

OH GOD, FOR FUCK SAKE !

WHEN WE WILL HAVE SOME QUIET AND PEACE WITH SUCH THINGS IN THIS GOD DAMN FORUM?

LEFTWINGS, RIGHTWINGS, COMMUNISTS, ANTI-COMMUNISTS,
ANARCHISTS, ANTI-ANARCHISTS, PATRIOTS, ANTI-PATRIOTS......

I can't stand it anymore....... 

[nf]

JUZNIFRONT, please ignore all this bullshit....

[manos4]

FUCK THE POLITICS.................
PAOK AND PARTIZAN ABOVE ALL...............
FOREVER TOGETHER.............

[kostas4]

asinidite ginetai na min ta mplekeis ola ma ola me ta politika?exete gamisei olo to forum,stamatiste epitelous

PAOK - PARTIZAN
TOGETHER FOREVER

[ved]

imarton re me afta.re asinidite plaka mas kaneis?ti sigrineis twra?boreis esy na katalabeis tpt apo th serbia toy tito?kai na toys krineis kiolas tous anthrwpoys?emeis megalwsame me goodys kai menegakh.aftoi eixan koumounismo kai emfylio kai mia zwh bombardismous.diladh pws tha itan oi anthrwpoi,rastades xalara kai alfadies?ta exoyme isopedwsei ola.exoyme enan anthrwpo apo thn serbia benei kai asxoleite me mas toys malakes poy exoyme gamisei ola ta topic kai toy poylame kai pnefma.aida ftanei.eilikrina apo afto fenete poso kalo mas ekane o zagorakhs mia poy einai sto mono poy simfwnoyme oloi.kai kati akoma,polla apo ta paidia poy einai sta paredwse me tous serboys einai adiethnikistes alla dexode toys serboys san aderfia kai kratane ta politika apexw giati katalabenoyn oti alles sinthikes iparxoyn ekei..kai stin teliki o PAOK panw apola.

JUZNIFRONT I want to ask sorry for my greeks.thank you for your pattient.I feel unhappy for paok fans urguments and stupid questions.

[juznifront]

First to poet, Partizan was founded by the army, not by police (cops). But, Red Star was founded by cops. You are wrong my friend.

sorry army is something better than the cops for you? i can't understand it. are you proud of being founded by the army. for me is just ridiculus cause cops and army are the same shit.

Where do you see that i wrote that army is better than cops. I just wrote that he made mistake. Partizan was founded by army and we are all proud of that. It doesn't mean that we love army or not, it's just part of our history and we won't to change it.

[kostas4]

and offourse you must keep your history and continue it.some people here don't understand that conditions are much different in Servia than in Greece.

[juznifront]

99% of Partizan fans don't like that things about fucking Tito, Yugoslavia, communism... but our club was founded by that army, so we can't change it. We even don't want to change red star (communist's symbol) in our badge, we don't want to change the name of club (there were some tryings to change it in Chetnik, White Eagles...).
Even now, when communism is already dead is Serbia for 20 years.

[Keskin!]

tkai pou petaxtikate oloi ti katalavete? mia erotisi ekana mou apantithike kai telos to paramithi.....

thanks juzni front for your answer.maybe next time i 'll send you a pm to ask you my questions.

[juznifront]

tkai pou petaxtikate oloi ti katalavete? mia erotisi ekana mou apantithike kai telos to paramithi.....

thanks juzni front for your answer.maybe next time i 'll send you a pm to ask you my questions.

OK, no problem, anytime, you're welcome.

[Keskin!]

I am sorry I don't understand that you wrote in Greek but I want to say something.
First to poet, Partizan was founded by the army, not by police (cops). But, Red Star was founded by cops. You are wrong my friend.
About your oppinion I respect that. We have brain to think, so you can think without influence of other people and make your own decisions.
I want to say about knfes. Grobari are against using knifes in fights. Just, in last few years we lost 5 friends stabed by knifes, mostly from Red Star fans. Red Star fans started to use knifes in Serbia, not Grobari. I can't say that all Grobari are not using the knifes, but official decision of Grobari is that we don't using knifes.
Red Star fans can't complain about injures in Salonica, because they already did same things, lot of times.
So my friend Poet, be brother with Serbs, with Partizan, Red Star and all the other Serbian fans, it is your oppinion and I don't want to change it. But this is football, this is football fanatism, it is different from politics, wars... I like Greece, but I can't like OSFP, PAO, AEK... I like PAOK. It is different. And I made lot of friends (from PAOK fans) during all this years, for some of them I can say that they mean to me more then brothers, probably they can say the same for me. This is deep thing. Ask yourself what you did for some thing and then say complains. Ask yourself about guys who spent their time, money, health... for this friendship.
After all, even I don't think that this friendship is so perfect, we can do much much better, but I am very happy because I made lot of PAOK friends and it is priceless.

ok first of all i wish noone get annoyed of what am gonna write.

today i found on YouTube and then in this site
http://www.bravo.co.uk/factories/ a documentary abou balkan fans called football factories international. when the guy came to grobari fans and partizan belgrad some people of the grobari firm spoke about the situation in their firm. as you can see by yourself they speak about no rules in belgrad and that they fight with or without weapons. at the club almost everybody carries a gun and expose it like a gangster. so my question is : " how do you say that grobari's official decision is to not use knifes?" .....redstar fans didn't spoke in their documentary but as you can see the big graffiti outside their club they are more into anti-weapon fights.

ok i don't even know if i can trust this documentary although i saw the leaders speaking for their  firms.... like alcatraz.
i can't but i try to understand the  years of war in ex-yugoslavia and how this affect all the people and the fans from both sides.you are a special case in the world of fans.

cheers