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« Reply #440 on: July 26, 2007, 15:46:44 »
Yes, injured bans, but nothing. Our govermant is govermant of slaves. Our president made appologise on Croatian national TV because some Serbs made some bad thing to some Croats. But Croats killed hundereds and hundereds of thousands Serbs. And we have about 1 milion refugies from there. And our president doing that stupid thing. So when you see this, you can understand that everyone who is proud to be Serb and Orthodox is like forigner in own country. The same is with Grobari.

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« Reply #441 on: July 26, 2007, 16:23:13 »
My girlfriend is from Novi Sad and she tells me that the most serious solution is the radical party, all the others are clowns....

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« Reply #442 on: July 26, 2007, 16:27:39 »
well, apostolos , i am not quite sure about it.....

i think it depends on the individual opinion...btw my girlfriend is from belgrade and she thinks that there is no good politician but the radical party is depending on the lack of good politicians but actually they are even worse....

for me, i believe it is a good thing to recognise what things you did wrong in the past (even if others did the same to you or maybe worse) and move further....

otherwise, you will leave in isolation as a country, and either we like it or not, globalization is unavoidable.....

only turkey doesnt recognise bad behaviours of the past....

anyway, it turns into a political discussion now...i am not sure if there is any point in that

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« Reply #443 on: July 26, 2007, 16:40:00 »
Anyone else has Serbian girlfriend? 8)

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« Reply #444 on: July 26, 2007, 16:59:43 »
I would like to have a Serbian girlfriend but the team which she will support is important!!!
P.A.O.K.ara eimai xare mou tin psixi mou pare mou...
P.A.O.K. zoume stin Poli na se doume...

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« Reply #445 on: July 26, 2007, 17:04:11 »
btw , mine supports Partizan.... ;)

before meeting me....

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« Reply #446 on: July 26, 2007, 17:08:21 »
Big black and white love. My friend has Greek girlfrined, she was in Belgrade by bus with PAOK fans for the game Red Star-PAOK in ULEB cup. After that, new love was born.

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« Reply #447 on: July 27, 2007, 10:35:27 »
Unfortunately i am .....married heheheheheheheheheheheh my wife half Greek half from Lebanon, no Serb roots i am afraid.....anyway we have another thing in common: stupid leaders-governments
ΠΑΟΚ ΠΑΟΚ ΠΑΟΚ ΠΑΟΚ ΠΑΟΚ ΠΑΟΚ ΠΑΟΚ

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« Reply #448 on: July 27, 2007, 12:49:07 »
Are you satisfied, gentlemen from UEFA?

Once again you confirmed that it takes a little power for a man to become a monster. In last 10 years there were many riots in Europe, and punishments were ridiculous in comparison with events from Mostar. Let me remind you – riots made by Torcida in Montenegro; Bad Blue Boys everywhere (except minor miscalculation in Switzerland); case of Denmark and kicking the referee; Roma-MUFC, Inter –Milan (when Milan goalkeeper’s life was jeopardized); then Roma-Dynamo Kiev (Frisk was hit); Galatasaray-Leeds, Leeds fan was killed; PSG-Galatasaray; case of AC Milan, which has proven to be criminal club and they are European champions punished at almost all matches (not at 25/36 as Zecevic’s deputy says) because of torchlight parade. Now Platini showed up with false promises and tricks (3 clubs from the strongest countries in Chapions League were leitmotif of his campaign) and gave all these unhappy people power to treat their frustrations by punishing throughout Europe. If European football agrees that Vetra, Nancy, association of war criminals of West Mostar change clubs such as Feyenoord, Partizan, Legia then there is something rotten.
Although I am a great fan of Euro cups, once more it proved that UEFA is, unlike FIFA, (which threatened to deprive the USA of World Championship in 1994., if they did not give visas to Iraqi players that were almost to the end in combination for that championship) completely political organisation. Let’s remember 1992 when Danes took part in Euro’92 instead of us. Now the UEFA, as an aggravating circumstances states that some guys wore T-shirts with Karadzic- Mladic written on them, and the same organisation does not mind Tompson’s songs, shouting Jasenovac (although we are talking about the greatest genocide in modern history of the Balkans), they do not mind that half Lazio fans wear T-shirts and tattoos of Mussolini. Mussolini was a democrat, and for Jasenovac Serbs are guilty, maybe because they were there. In the political terms this is double standards, and not conspiracy theory.

Are you satisfied, gentlemen from the media?

You set the fire when no one mentioned kicking us out. You just wanted to have exclusive news that loathed Partizan will be kicked out. Torcida ruined the ferry, smashed a lot of cars in Montenegro, caused rioting in the stands, and no one in Croatian media thought of an idea of being kicked out. These days Grobari were jeered at, the worst possible things you could read in newspapers; but the worst of all is those things were written by those that have not seen Mostar at all. Some were just writing out of spite because they are Red Star fans, and some just had to. Let me say a few words about a newspaper I read every day - Novosti. This newspaper has not been so political and morally degrading even while Slobodan Milosevic ruled. When the first man of the Novosti Manjo Vukotic (faction of Popovic) was in the club and when it was convenient they published all announcements from Grobari, and now when he obviously made a deal with Zecevic everything is summed up in 5 lines, Grobari were called ‘’allegedly fans’’. How can we talk about objective journalism? The journalists (not ours) called Grobari the best audience in Euro league in basketball, in this season, and the same guys were in Mostar. So, who’s crazy??? Let’s talk about investigative journalism. Well, recently newspapers wrote so much rubbish about Grobari that waste area could not take it all and all because they did not allow to be killed in Mostar. In 22 years, since one of the last secretary general in Europe was number one in Partizan, there were rumours about him that he set up matches, established fictitious enterprises, hung around with the biggest criminal in the country, etc. None of you brave journalists (that were not in Mostar) did not try to investigate these stories or pose a question (with rare exceptions).

Are you satisfied, gentlemen fans or should I use a fantastic syntagm (I forgot who’s the author) – transistor fans?

You are a special story. You are present at important matches, but only at Partizan stadium (you are afraid to go to Marakana); you are present at European matches and, of course, when the admission is free; and when it comes to other...well a transistor is there. You are everything Grobari were never and will never be. You only cheer when we are winning…when we’re losing you shout ”management out”, you are mediocre people who come to stadium to treat their own frustrations and complexes. Had you supported us after Maccabi, Zecevic would be long gone, but maybe it’s better you didn’t, because it’s clear now that our and your opinions differ greatly. Someone told you that it’s better to have a support of 50 Grobars from south stands, than a 10000 of you. If we talk about facts, Partizan has by far the worst results in the history at home exactly from the imposing a boycott, when you -‘’the true fans’’ are at the stadium, and us ‘’the mercenaries’’ are not. You repeat like parrots what Zecevic said about Zepter. Ok, let your friend Zecevic give you evidence, so you can sue us for the money we ‘’took’’ to ruin FC Zecevic, and then we’ll see who’s right. I wonder if you have feelings for Partizan or is it all from one day to the next. If you felt 100th part of the pain from Flamurtari, Croatia, Rapid, Maccabi, Timok, BSK, not to mention further, maybe you would think differently. But no, you are ‘’the true’’ fans, you’re always there although our club was robbed, discredited many times, never mind. Friend Zecevic promised things will get better. By the way, friend Zecevic announced in a book published in 1995, on the occasion of 50th anniversary of Partizan, that in 1996 a new stadium will be built (maybe he meant these Steaua chairs we have)…

Are you satisfied Mr Terzic?

The efforts you put into fight for Partizan, are so great that we’d rather president of the ”gang” we played against fought for us. And your name solely tells a lot more. Instead of admitting that Platini lied to you, by giving you and other presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan false promises; you even defend him by saying he’s on the right track and you seem to forget that you were not appointed by UEFA, but by Serbia and it’s your duty to defend interests of Serbian clubs. You and Jocic said you will put everything in order, just like in England. Please don’t make us laugh, such two morally right persons can do many things, but put something in order, well hardly can it be done. One broke into the kiosk, the other carries a gun without a licence, but then again, those are sins from youth, aren’t they? What about sins from your old days, you’re not young any more?

Are you satisfied, gentlemen from FC Partizan?

Zecevic couldn’t wait to hear a positive decision on kicking out of his club out of UEFA so he said it was the most devastating blow in the club history and that only an atomic bomb would make things worse. Well, my friend secretary general, you’re wrong. An A-bomb fell in the form of Flamurtari, and one more was thrown by Croatia, then Rapid, Slavia, Artmedia, and an H-bomb was thrown by Mossad wearing jerseys of Maccabi Petah Tikva in cooperation with you (how much was for 2, and how much was for 7+ could be seen at your bank account). All of this came at the worst possible moment so that you could avert the focus from the important issue, and that’s your foul dealing, since stories about your fictitious business started to come to light. You and your friend legionary Curkovic said the fans, that used to be the best in the world after Artmedia, are the guilty because they were defending their lives when half of Mostar attacked them. It is scandalous for Curkovic to say something like that, who although an ethnic minority member was given a warm welcome in Belgrade, just as it is appropriate; and who’s at the head of Serbian sport, but who jeered at the fans of the club that gave him everything; who supported rioting of the others just because he is originally from there. The Olympic Board would immediately have to distance itself from the fact that their president supported those cheering at places where numerous Serbs got killed, or we can go to hell. It is a special story about an administrator of www.partizan.co.yu, who didn’t allow any posts to be written a month after Maccabi, who also jeered at Grobari for events in Mostar, and who comes to a basketball match and stands in front of Grobari and sings our songs. What kind of man should be to do such thing? Zecevic’s little deputy (Petric) is thinking about complaining? Come on! Thinking and at the same time giving arguments that are in no connection with common sense, making comparisons that aren’t correct. Legia and Feyenoord committed some more serious offences, matches were interrupted, they initiated incidents, safety of players was endangered. Grobari didn’t initiate the incident (Croats started first by throwing rocks), the match was not ended, and safety of players wasn’t endangered. Regarding the story about accumulation of punishments, that’s not true, I stated the example of Milan, and UEFA has graduality in punishments, and as far as I know Partizan hasn’t been sent a warning before exclusion. Zeka’s little deputy said that the punishment for Feyenoord was increased after pleading. Hello! Petric! Is there a worse punishment than this one? There are no reasons why we shouldn’t complain, but still Petric wouldn’t want to annoy ‘’friends’’…

Finally, something about us. I believe that everyone should be responsible for their actions and that anyone making an incident contrary to the law should be punished accordingly, whether that is a fan, a secretary general or state president. But what happened here, in cooperation with the abovementioned subjects is a tragedy. It looks as if Partizan would only continue if a cop from Mostar shot a bit higher the boy that got wounded (thank God he didn’t). Only then media would write what really happened in Mostar, according to our morbid proverb ‘’you mustn’t speak ill of the dead’’, (those that weren’t in Mostar), and UEFA wouldn’t punish us. If that’s the price then we should be expelled, because human life is priceless.

Team captain Antonio Rukavina said ‘’I don’t bear a grudge against fans, we can’t do without them, and they were and always will be our 12th player’’…the light at the end of a tunnel… THINK ABOUT IT GENTLEMEN WHO CARE MUCH…

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« Reply #449 on: July 29, 2007, 01:49:48 »
 juznifront, you couldn't be more right. hats off for eveything you wrote
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« Reply #450 on: July 29, 2007, 09:32:56 »
Thanks Dani.

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« Reply #451 on: August 02, 2007, 23:40:23 »
congratulations Partizan!

Partizan won by 5-0 and is on the next round......

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« Reply #452 on: August 03, 2007, 08:03:56 »
no, next round is not sure !

uefa just postponed the dessision if they(Partizan) will be fined or not
at the latest till 16 August when the 2nd qualification round starts.

As known, Partizan has made reclamation about the decision of uefa to fine them
for one year , concerning the incidents in bosnia against zrinsjki.
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« Reply #453 on: August 03, 2007, 10:33:34 »
Yes it's true. We will know about UEFA's decision 10th august.

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« Reply #454 on: August 03, 2007, 10:42:07 »
UEFA:
Grobari in Europe?
No, thanks!


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« Reply #455 on: August 03, 2007, 10:53:50 »
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« Reply #456 on: August 03, 2007, 14:18:01 »
If Partizan will play in UEFA cup, it will be against Rabotnicki from Skopia.

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« Reply #457 on: August 03, 2007, 14:38:59 »
Partizan-Zrinjski


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« Reply #459 on: August 05, 2007, 13:13:10 »
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