(2004NOEMB-2005)ΠΑΟΚ - Εργοτέλης 0-2 & epeisodia sthn g1 kata gumenu

[Passenger-4]

Ta gegonota trexoun ki etsi eimaste ki emeis anagkasmenoi na koitaksoume mprosta...Dystyxws mou fainetai pws gyrizoume arketa xronia pisw kai den mporw na skeftw ti mporei na ginei gia na vgoume apo to adieksodo..Exoume to paixnidi me ton ergoteli mprosta mas kai den kserw poso exoume oloi mas kouragio na asxolithoume m auto...Mallon tha agwnistei h omada mas se adeia Toumpa alla gi auto ftaiei i dioikisi, o proponitis, oi paixtes kai oloi tous..Na doume tha kanoume hrwa kai ton ogunsoto?

[Δικέφαλος]

Εάν η ομάδα παίξει όπως έπαιξε κόντρα στον γαύρο και οι αμυντικοί δεν κάνουν τα λάθη που κάνανε και χαρίσουν πάλι 4 γκολ, τότε θα νικήσουμε εύκολα. 

[glykeria4]

Paidia xalarwste...Tha doume kai tha krinoume kai ayto to mats!
To poly poly na kanoume pali blakeies kai na bgei o fringer meta kai na pei
o PAOK den einai megalh omada..
Meta tha pathoume kai emeis anosia..tha ginoume apoxaunomena onta kai teleiwse o ponokefalos
gia merikous..
Isws to olo problhma pou exoume twra na bgei kai se kalo(twra tha skefteste ...ti xazomares leei pws einai dynaton!ki omws!!!!!!!)
Sigoura tha exete proseksei pws perimenoume na xasoume kapoious apo tous stoxous mas
gia na thymithoume oti exoume problhma me thn dioikhsh mas kai genika me thn omada
Kai to exw ksanapei!!!!!!!!!!M'eksorgise to gegonos pws sto mats me thn alkmaar kai afou blepane to
skor thymithikan na poune synthima gia thn dioikhsh!
Dhladh ws tote eimastan mia xara kai ksafnika kati mas eftaikse??
Thelw na pw epomenws pws ayto to mayro xali pou parousiazoume twra isws apotelesei
to enaysma gia na koitaksoume me perissoterh prosoxh ta problhmata mas
Isws mprosta stis dyskolies na syspeirwthoume....

Pes Mou Ena Psema Na Apokoimithw

[chris]

Meta tha pathoume kai emeis anosia..tha ginoume apoxaunomena onta kai teleiwse o ponokefalos
gia merikous..

Kai to exw ksanapei!!!!!!!!!!M'eksorgise to gegonos pws sto mats me thn alkmaar kai afou blepane to
skor thymithikan na poune synthima gia thn dioikhsh!
Dhladh ws tote eimastan mia xara kai ksafnika kati mas eftaikse??


Pes Mou Ena Psema Na Apokoimithw

EGW proswpika pleon den perimenw tipota kai apo kanenan.se tetoia fash briskomai.kai EIDIKOTERA APO TUS SYNDESMOUS.
eimai se fash pu AN mporousa-leme ean-8a APAITOUSA NA MHN TOLMHSOUN PLEON KAI KANUN TO OTIDHPOTE!
oxi pws mporoun edw pu ta leme.ta xalia tu exei kai to syndesmiako kinhma.
apla kourazomai san syndesmiths me thn logikh
"pali eseis prepei na bgalete to fidi apo thn trypa"
"na se kapsw giannh na se aloipsw na gianh"
EGW 8ELW OI SYNDESMOI NA MEINUN PISTOI STHN MEXRI TWRA POREIA TUS:opws bgazan anakoinwseis ews twra h kai apo ton iounio...bre kai apo ton maio lew gw pu o gumenos me 1002 tropous phre to 67%-74%[to poso telos pantwn phre akribws den 8ymamai] kai POLLOI APO EMAS KWFEVAN tote...etsi kai TWRA OI SF MONO ANAKOINWSEIS K TI-PO-TE A-LLO.mhn to deite san antidrash..apla etsi einai.

ISWS...mono OTAN to potami orghs tu kosmou ginei TOSO ANEKSELEKTO[kai milame gia gerous,paidia,neous,gynaikes,organwmenus,anorganwtous MHDENOS EKSAIROUMENU] tote EAN 8eloun enan MPROSTARH gia na ginei to oti exei na ginei TOTE NAI.na kanun kati kai oi syndesmoi.
*as poume kati AF8ORMHTO sto mats basket me gay-opws eixe pei o @devil an den kanw la8os..
*h sto mats me ergotelh..
*alla na einai SYNEXOMENO.
*na phgainw tumpa kai na blepw TON OPOIODHPOTE na afrizei..
*TON OPOIODHPOTE na dhlwnei etoimos gia o-t-i xreiastei.
*TON OPOIODHPOTE pu na leei "bgalte mas stous dromous!"..
*TON OPOIODHPOTE pu 8a akousw se opoiadhpote radio ekpomph na einai ta parapanw pu eipa.
*TON OPOIODHPOTE katoiko ekswterikou h eparxias pu 8a stelnei "propompous":fax kai thlefwnikes parembaseis se ola ta MME
*TON OPOIODHPOTE MA OPOIODHPOTE
mexri tote omws[kai epeidh ta "8ele o kwlos mas"] kai epeidh TO 8ERAPEVE einai 100fores pio dyskolo apo to PROLAMBANE den blepw fws.
den blepw kanena fws..ISWS PREPI NA FTASOUME STON PATO[KAI TO PISTEVW KAI TO LEW.PATOS=OTI MPOREI NA SHMAINEI PATOS GIA TON PAOK]

dysthxws OLA EDW PLHRWNONTAI.opws kai TA LA8H.

[glykeria4]

Poly emperistatwmeno to post sou xrhsto alla prepei na to niwsoun ayto pou les
kai oi anorganwtoi
Giati monimws ta rixnoun stous syndesmouskai edw pou ta leme den mporei na ftaine kai aytoi
gia ola..prepei kai o anorganwtos na kanei kati..
Kai isws opws les h katastash prepei na meinei etsi opws exei..
Kai opoios thelei na kanei kati as to kanei
Se kamia ma kamia periptwsh den thelw na akousw gia poreies 50 kai 100 atomwn!
as brethoun alles lyseis..

[chris]

Giati monimws ta rixnoun stous syndesmouskai edw pou ta leme den mporei na ftaine kai aytoi
gia ola..prepei kai o anorganwtos na kanei kati..

oxi.gia na ta leme kai ola KAI oi syndesmoi exoun an oxi to mavro tus to xali,sigoura kai aftoi polla problhmata.
8elw na pw oti mporei kai na 8eloun alla na mhn mporoun-paizei k afto.
einai malwmenoi,einai dixasmenoi..entaksei "xwrio pu fainetai kolaouzo den 8elei"
ISWS..lew ISWS an kai oi syndesmoi htan ALLIWS mporei KATI PARAPANW na eixame glytwsei apo thn feteinh katrakyla..ISWS lew alla kai pali ypo8etika milaw.
alla me ta ISWS kai ta 8A duleia den ginetai..

[chris]

isws kai me ena paradeigma[twra an 8a einai kalo eseis 8a to krinete] dwsw mia diastash se afto pu
lew ANEKSELEKTH ORGH

edw sthn ellada eixame TO 8EMA ME TA PANOTOKIA TWN TRAPEZWN swsta?
8es ergates?8es mikromesaious epeixhrhmaties?8es agrotes?
pairnan bre aderfe kapoia 'x" ekatomyria drx daneio..kai logw kapoiwn dyskoliwn ftanane na plhrwnun
p.x. gia 5ekat drx 50ekat!!!! h na xanun to spiti tus gia 200-300xil drx!!!
apistefta skhnika,aftoktonies-osoi 8ymomaste apo thn tv...oikogeneies na MHN spoudazoun ta paidia tus logw oikonomikhs anexeias...
giagiades na tis blepeis stis laikes na mazecoun APO TA SKOUPIDIA!!!-an einai dynaton-gia na fane!!!
TO 8EMA EFTASE NA GIGANTW8EI TOSO POLY PU PHRE EKRHKTIKES DIASTASEIS..telika perase enas nomos oti kai ta panotokia
8A EXOUN ENA ORIO[to "x" orio pu exoun telos pantwn meta thn ry8mish]

kapws etsi fantazomai THN EKRHKSH ORGHS TU KA8E PAOKTSH.prepei DYSTHXWS h katastash NA FTASEI STO APROXWRHTO!
prepei h katastash na ginei ANYPOFORH.
giati ainte me ton malaka ton bulino..paei sto diaolo.
ma meta me ton mpatman--->>"ma aftos o kalos an8rwpos EBALE lefta ston PAOK"
twra me gumeno-pagwnhdes -->>"oi an8rwpoi einai noikokyrhdes"

e nysafi pia!afou den bazoume myalo na ginei h ZWH mas 

[glykeria4]

Kalo kouragio loipon giati h katastash mallon etsi tha paei kai as perimenoume na ginei to megalo mpam
Giati oloi mas twra 

[tiore3]

as perimenoume na ginei to megalo mpam
Giati oloi mas twra 

pio mpam enpoeis akrivws giati ayto exei 2-3 enoies...

na dialithoume teliws i na erthei kanas berlouskoni? i mipws tin epanastasi tis polithronas?

to prwto ehei ginei hdh, teliws oxi alla den nomizw oti paei pio katw i omada, kai milw kiriws gia tin apaxiwsh tis sti sinidish tou kosmou kai oxi gia ti thesi tis sti vathmologia ..oso gia to deytero  mono se anekdoto mou kolaei...
to trito epishs exei ginei , oloi sta radia einai, oi epanastates.

to mono pou mporei na perimenei o PAOKtshs einai h analampi tou melothanatoy... san ki aytes pou exoume edw kai 15 xronia...
kana kipelaki, kana sentonaki(estw kai san oneiro) kannena neo batman sta kala tou ..mexri ekei omws...
teliws o PAOK den pethainei pote oute prokeite na svisei ki ayto to xeroume oloi , einai omws se mia monimi katastash melothanatou me analampes 
kati einai ki ayto... oi ypoloipoi simpolites vriskontai se kwma

[glykeria4]

Axm exeis dikio tiore!
Exei polles ypoperiptwseis ayto to mpam
Na tis analysw loipon etsi opws tis skeftomai:
a)Eksafanizetai o kosmos apo to ghpedo teleiws kai apaksiei na asxolithei genikotera
b)Kseftilizomaste toso pou ftanoume sto shmeio mhden
c) oi syndesmoi to xaba tous, malwnoun gia ta pararthmata kai gia ta proswpika symferonta(otan lew ayto den anaferomai se olous tous syndesmous!yparxoun kai ygieis syndesmoi)
d)Oi efhmerides lene blakeies kai paizoune me ton pono mas...
e)Xanoume oxi mono olous mas tous stoxous genika alla kai to orama mas kai to xeirotero einai pws kaneis den mporei na mas dwsei kainourio!
f)agorasths den fainetai en opsei kai oi pagwnhs goumenos...paizoun mpala monoi kai kratoun se omhria ton paok!
Klp,klp ta problhmata mas telos den exoune kai ta kserete kai eseis den xreiazetai na ta analysw!
To megalo mpam loipon tiore tha ginei otan oloi syneidhtopoihsoun ola ayta kai poun...
Kathiste re seis...pou pame kserete?
Sto xeilos tou gremou eimaste!Ligo thelei..
Epeidh prepei na fygw twra an thes argotera to brady tha sou analysw ligo parapanw kai synexizoume thn koubenta

[leon4l]

ΠΑΟΚΑΡΑ αντε τρελλανε μας παλι! Ανω κατω γιναμε αλλα μυαλο δεν βαζουμε κι ευτυχως μπασκετ παιζουμε το σαββατο και κυριακη βλεπω 4500-5000 κοσμο στο ΝΑΟ

[DarkLord]

ego pali vlepo 1000 eisitiria metrimena

[glykeria4]

Ta parales ligo Darklord!
Den ksefouskwsame akoma toso poly!!!!!!!
Tha exei parapanw atoma alla to thema den einai posa eishthria tha kopoun!
Oute an kerdisoume ton Ergotelh!
As akousw kati to entharyntiko...(oxi aparaithta lysh--- estw mia mikrh elpida)
gia ta problhmata pou mas apasxoloun kai tha eimai apolyta eyxaristhmenh akoma kai an erthoun sto ghpedo
5 atoma metrhmena!!!!!!

[opromitheas]

Kai 5 atoma na einai ego tha eimai enas apo autous...pisteuo oti mono emeis tha anebasoume tin psixologia auton ton kakomoiron podosfairiston!!!Den iparxei kaneis allos gi'autin tin omada mono oi opadoi mias pou oi filathloi tou P.A.O.K. tha protimisoun ton kanape apo ton gipedo alla leo an erthei i stigmi kai allaksoun ta pragmata rizika(MAKARI NA GINEI THAYMA)kai doume enan P.A.O.K. pou goustaroume oloi autoi oi kanapeoi tha trexoun gia eisitiria kai tha ta steroun apo ta aderfia pou trexan tis diskoles stigmes.Oloi kseroume oti ipomoni den iparxei katholou ston P.A.O.K.tsi kai den mporeis na zitiseis parapano giati exei kourastei pleon...alla prospathiste tin kiriaki na brethoume konta stin omada(osoi perissoteroi mporoume)!!!Oti tha ginei mpam kapoia stigmi tha ginei alla oti einai dinaton kai mporoume na to allaksoume emeis oi idioi as to kanoume gia na mi bgouin kapoioi kai poun oti den boithisame katholou tin diskoli stigmi...

[apaoki13]

enta3ei re mhn anhsyxeite. O frigel leei, 8a kanei syzhthsh strogylhs trapezhs me toys podosfairistes gia na ly8oun ta problhmata. Afou prwta tous eipe partalia twra 8a to syzhthsei mazi tous gia na tous phsei oti den exoun elpida. 

[giwrgos4]

ena erotimatiko ine autos o agonas..apoles tis pleures

[Δικέφαλος]

egw lew oti 8a kerdisoume eukola.
 

[glykeria4]

Deite ti grafei to site ths  sportime !!
"Μετά από μια ακόμα ανεπιτυχή προσπάθεια να σημειώσει την πρώτη του νίκη στο πρωτάθλημα ο Εργοτέλης στρέφει την προσοχή του στο επόμενο ματς, με τον ΠΑΟΚ. Δε χάνει την αισιοδοξία του ο Μύρων Σηφάκης, όπου έκανε δηλώσεις εκφράζοντας την εμπιστοσύνη του προς τους παίκτες. Κανένα θέμα αντικατάστασης του.
idia!eleos pia"
Les kai paei na paiksei me kamia kallithea kai paei na xtyphsei to mats sta isia!!!!!Tha faw ta mallia mou den mporw!
h de athlitikh exei ksefygei teleiws!!!!!!!sto ekswfyllo ths rixnei eythines ston salpigidh kai leei pws ta bazei me tous dhmosiografous!
Pote egine ayto?Paei kala?
To metrosport ta leei kapws kalytera kai anaferei pws prepei na paroume paiktes na ksypnhsoume ton proponhth kai na dwsoume syntakseis (hahahaha mou arese ayto)
Kai ta spor re seis pali rixnoun paramythiasma!!!!!!!Giati mas to kanoun ayto??Den mporoune na lene kati mono otan einai sigouro?
Lene pws exoume san basiko stoxo ton empente(eipate tpt?) kai pws exoume allous dyo sto mikroskopio!
Re paidia se ligo aytoi tha poune pws o ergotelhs einai to fabori!!!!!!!!!!!

[Saltapidas]

eipame exoume xalia omada fetos kai plaka plaka iparxei kai i pithanotita na xasoume apo ton ergoteli(pou ftasame) alla me auta pou grafoun den dixnoun oute ligo esto sevasmo stin istoria . ti na pei kaneis...

[tiore3]

Axm exeis dikio tiore!
Exei polles ypoperiptwseis ayto to mpam
Na tis analysw loipon etsi opws tis skeftomai:
a)Eksafanizetai o kosmos apo to ghpedo teleiws kai apaksiei na asxolithei genikotera
b)Kseftilizomaste toso pou ftanoume sto shmeio mhden
c) oi syndesmoi to xaba tous, malwnoun gia ta pararthmata kai gia ta proswpika symferonta(otan lew ayto den anaferomai se olous tous syndesmous!yparxoun kai ygieis syndesmoi)
d)Oi efhmerides lene blakeies kai paizoune me ton pono mas...
e)Xanoume oxi mono olous mas tous stoxous genika alla kai to orama mas kai to xeirotero einai pws kaneis den mporei na mas dwsei kainourio!
f)agorasths den fainetai en opsei kai oi pagwnhs goumenos...paizoun mpala monoi kai kratoun se omhria ton paok!
Klp,klp ta problhmata mas telos den exoune kai ta kserete kai eseis den xreiazetai na ta analysw!
To megalo mpam loipon tiore tha ginei otan oloi syneidhtopoihsoun ola ayta kai poun...
Kathiste re seis...pou pame kserete?
Sto xeilos tou gremou eimaste!Ligo thelei..
Epeidh prepei na fygw twra an thes argotera to brady tha sou analysw ligo parapanw kai synexizoume thn koubenta

mallon den me katalaves...

kat eme, eimaste hdh stro pato den paei allo...

nomizeis oti an o PAOK pesei sti b tha paei pio katw?
perisoteroi tha asxolountai tote...
twra pios asxoleite?
i apaxiwsh einai o patos glikeria kai  oxi o oikonomikos patos i o patos tis vathmologias. i aek epiase poly megalytero patro apo emas alla den ehase ton sevasmo tis apo ton kosmo kai ta mme. Mas exoun oloi stin plaka , oudeis asxoleite me emas, sa na min ypaxroume eimaste pleon.
o kosmos thelei ena orama, estw pseytiko....otan den to exeis ayto tote vriskesai sto pato. Oi meres kai o xronos pernane gia ton PAOK xwris kanena apolytws nohma.