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petrovgr

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« Reply #60 on: March 05, 2004, 01:55:25 »
Kai gw tha eimai mesa s'aytous   8)

A re salonikh erxomaste!  ;D

As eyxithoume na psifisoun oloi oi paoktsides me to myalo sto kefali.Symfwnw gia thn GELOIA ypopsifiotita Iwannidi se OLA osa egrapse i anakoinwsi tis Thyras 4.Den mporei enas typos san ki ayton,pou katevase to mpasket stin athina,pou PRODWSE akomi kai aytous tous ligous sti thessaloniki pou ton goustaran (vlepe likiaskou) kai na erxetai simera ws makedonomaxos na zitaei tin psifo mas.Poly fovamai vevaia oti h ypsili anagnwrisimotita tou,se syndiasmo me tin XAZOMARA pollwn ellhnwn (pou na valw stayro,pou na valw stayro,as to riksw ston Iwannidi) tha ton kanoun na ekproswpei ton elliniko lao sti vouli.Ti leme vevaia,edw valane ypopsifio stin Athina ton DANIEL BATISTA

EGKW AGKAPAEI ELLANTA,EGKW TELEI MEINEI ;D

O TEMPORA,O MORES KAI O MALAKES ELLHNES

petrovgr

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« Reply #61 on: March 07, 2004, 14:53:15 »
Molis gyrisa apo to eklogiko tmima kali psifo se olous kai kalo ntavantouri ;D

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« Reply #62 on: March 07, 2004, 17:01:31 »
Ti pshfises? Kala, mh mou apanthseis, plaka kanw...
ΒΑΣΙΚΑ, ΔΕΝ ΚΑΤΑΛΑΒΑΙΝΟΥΜΕ ΤΙΠΟΤΑ. ΕΙΜΑΣΤΕ ΟΙ ΠΡΩΤΟΙ.

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« Reply #63 on: March 08, 2004, 00:26:46 »
βγηκε και ο ρεμος στα καναλια και ειπε οτι ΕΠΙΤΕΛΟΥΣ
ΒΓΗΚΕ ΒΟΡΕΙΟΕΛΛΑΔΙΤΗΣ ΠΡΩΘΥΠΟΥΡΓΟΣ.....
βρε ουφο τι να το κανω που ο ανθρωπος ειναι φανατικος
βαζελος αν και μεγαλωσε στην σαλονικα ......
ουτε καν πανσερραικος..... :(

petrovgr

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« Reply #64 on: March 08, 2004, 02:42:30 »
Ante re den iksera oti itan vazeli!

Pantws einai poly endiaferon na doume pws (kai an) tha epireasei to eklogiko apotelesma tin katastasi tou athlitismou.Tha mpei ''gera'' o vazelos na ksanaginei to katestimeno pou itan palia i o kokkalis exei toso geres rizes pou einai yperkommatikos?

Gia mas? ti tha ginei? Mpikane kapoioi paoktsides politikoi me tin nea dimokratia kai akougetai gera to onoma tou orfanou gia yfypourgo athlitismou... idwmen...
pantws den perimenw k polla

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« Reply #65 on: March 08, 2004, 10:05:07 »
O LAOS TOY PAOK ANEBOKATEBAZEI KYBERNHSEIS!
kai den to grafw giati prepei h epibaletai h etsi PREPEI na to grapsw..h apla na to grapsw..
mia poly proxeirh matia-isws kai ligo biastikh-sta apotelesmata,sta pososta kai air8mus twn pshfwn OLWN twn kommatwn katelhksa sto PARAPANW symperasma ws ekshs:

1)xontrika h diafora se pshfous pasok-nd einai kapou 350.000 panw h nd
2)h diafora pasok-nd sto nomo atikhs einai OUSIASTIKA apo mikrh ews amelhtea(milame gia elaxistes xiliades pshfous panw h nd se sxesh panta me tis 100des 1000dwn pshfoforwn ekei-STO KRATOS TWN A8HNWN)
3)ston nomo 8essalonikhs omws...panw apo 55-60.000 pshfoi kai krinontas kai apo thn YPOLOIPH BOREIA ELLADA kai a8roizontas ta pososta....oxi pws parablepw kai thn ypoloiph eparxia...TOTE NAI!O LAOS TU PAOK ANEBOKATEBAZEI KYBERNHSEIS!(ta ksanaeipame afta:paliotera to 1993 me ton galaktero k fysika oxi mono afto h mono ta a8lhtika drwmena) ton mpoulo o mhtsotakhs...twra ton mpoulo to pasok...EINAI AFTO POU LEME OTI O PAOK DEN EINAI APLWS MIA PODOSFAIRIKH OMADA ALLA EKFRAZEI OLH THN ELLHNIKH EPARXIA..O MONIMOS EPANASTATHS MPROS STO ADHFAGO KRATOS TWN A8HNWN..kai polla alla

Y.G.aksioshmeiwta ta pososta tu LAOS eidikotera sthn boreia ellada.O BOREIOELLADITHS EINAI PATRIWTHS,EINAI E8NIKISTHS..h mallon an den einai ETSI opws paw na to "bgalw"..giati sigoura KANENA KOMMA den exei thn apokleistikothta ston PATRIWTISMO...ara kai la8os o sylogismos mu...DEIXNEI OMWS KATI:OTI SIGOURA O BOREIOELLADITHS DEN KSEXNA TIS XAMENES PATRIDES!SIGOURA O BOREIOELLADITHS KAI EIDIKOTERA O PAOKTSHS "PRWTOS 8A METALABEI MES THN AGIA SOFIA!"..OTAN ER8EI EKEINH H WRA..

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« Reply #66 on: March 08, 2004, 13:29:17 »
ρε chris υπουργος αθλητισμου θα γινει ο ιωαννιδης....
ναι ναι ο τυπος που δηλητιριασε με εμφιαλωμενα τους
παικτες της ρωσικης ομαδας και για αυτον τον εδιωξε ο κοκκαλης ... ειναι ο τυπος που ηταν πισω απο καθε βρωμια
εναντιον του ΠΑΟΚ στο μπασκετ....
προεκλογικα αρχισε να μας γλυφει μεχρι και τον αναστασιαδη
πηγε να τον εκμεταλλευτει προεκλεγικα αλλα ο αγγελος
δεν μασησε δεν πηγε σε εκεινη την προεκλογικη αθλητικη
φιεστα του λιανη στην θεσσαλονικη για να παρει βραβειο
το οποιο ηθελε πολυ και θα του το απενειμε ο ιωαννιδης
.....μπραβο στα παιδια της g4 για την πολυ καλη ανακοινωση
για τον ιωαννιδη.......... :)

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« Reply #67 on: March 08, 2004, 14:04:40 »
O Voreioelladitis neos prwthipourgos
i moni sxesi pou exei me ti voreia Ellada einai
oti gennithike se aftin kai ftanei.
Kata t'alla einai vazelos ki exei paei sxoleio
sto Kwlonaki.

Mas exoun katalavei oloi mou fainetai ti
"toixoi" eimaste edw panw kai mas exoune flwmosei
sta paramythia.

As kanei kala ti douleia tou ki as einai apo opou thelei.
Afto exw na pw stis mparoufes tou Remou ki allwn
"toixwn" pou lene to idio.


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« Reply #68 on: March 08, 2004, 14:23:11 »
Re chris,mi mperdeuis ton ethnikismo me ton patriotismo.O Karatzaferis einai fasistas.Exei diafora.Pia i sxesi alloste tu Xristianismou me tin Ellada?

chris

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« Reply #69 on: March 08, 2004, 14:27:58 »
DYSTHXWS o liannhs epaneklegetai sthn flwrina....re paidia osoi pshfisate/me/nan pasok giati ton liannh?

http://www.mpa.gr/article.html?doc_id=440247

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« Reply #70 on: March 08, 2004, 14:29:09 »
o karatzaferis den fasistas. einai aplos emporos. kai kalos diaskedastis. gi auto kai se liga xronia tha parousiazei show stin tv me psuxagwgiko xaraktira. karagkiozakos einai o anthrwpos kai to apedeikse xthes to bradu, otan to kanali tou epaize tin wra twn apotelesmatwn, liza minelli, frank sinatra, whitney houston kai ekleise ti bradia me elliniki videokasseta me to sugxwremeno to rizo. milame toso megalo sebasmo gia ta 140K koroida pou ton pistepsan.

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« Reply #71 on: March 08, 2004, 14:32:17 »
Akoma pio sostos o G4.Auto pu ithela na po,itan oti i ideologia pu theli na perasi ine fasistiki.Omos ousiastika ine emporos,exis dikio

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« Reply #72 on: March 08, 2004, 15:11:21 »
Re chris,mi mperdeuis ton ethnikismo me ton patriotismo.O Karatzaferis einai fasistas.Exei diafora.Pia i sxesi alloste tu Xristianismou me tin Ellada?
bre to ekshghsa ek twn proterwn oti h gnwmh mu apopsh einai la-8os.tonisa xarakthristika allwste oti "alimono an dextume oti yparxei to x h y komma pou exei ta..."apokleistika dikaiwmata" tu patriwtismu/e8nikismu ktl ktl...apla PWS alliws na ekshghsw to gegonos oti ta MEGALYTERA pososta tu laos htan sthn boreia ellada?doksa ton 8eo k thn panagia poosa alla mikra kommata yphrxan na pshfisei o ka8enas eite gia diamartyria,eite gia plaka,eite gia sobara,eite gia otidhpote o ka8enas 8elei..dimokratia exoume..NAI e8nikisths etsi opws to enoume o karatzaferhs den einai...den lew omws afto...lew ti perase ston kosmo oti einai to laos kai PWS exei tetoia pososta sth boreia ellada..sthn telikh kubenta kanume :)

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« Reply #73 on: March 08, 2004, 15:31:44 »
DYSTHXWS o liannhs epaneklegetai sthn flwrina....re paidia osoi pshfisate/me/nan pasok giati ton liannh?

http://www.mpa.gr/article.html?doc_id=440247

εγω ειμαι απο πτολεμαιδα chris και ξερω πολυ καλα οτι
ο λιανης χρονια τωρα εχει προσφερει παρα πολλα στην
φλωρινα και αυτο του αναγνωριζουν οι κατοικοι ....
ασχετα αν δεν τον γουσταρω γιατι τα εκανε σκατα
στον αθλητισμο και δεν με αρεσε το γλυψιμο του στους
κατω.....
εμεις εδω με 50.000 πλυθησμο ζουμε στην αφανεια γιατι
δεν εχουμε τετοιου βεληνεκους παραγοντες οπως ο
κουκουλοπουλος στην κοζανη (τον ξερεις ετσι ?)
η ο λιανης στην φλωρινα .... :(

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« Reply #74 on: March 08, 2004, 16:31:31 »
Posted by: lemmy  Posted on: Today at 13:23:11  
Re chris,mi mperdeuis ton ethnikismo me ton patriotismo.O Karatzaferis einai fasistas.Exei diafora.Pia i sxesi alloste tu Xristianismou me tin Ellada?  



Nomizw oti stin Ellada exoume xasei megalo meros tou noimatos genika.Tha ithela na rwtisw  ton filo Lemmy an gnwrizei ti einai o fasismos.An gnwrizei ti ekproswpei kai kata poson to komma LA.O.S. epivevaiwnei ayti ti thewria.Oson afora tin sxesi Xristianismou-Elladas to erwtima sou den to katalavainw.H den exeis ypopsin sou ti exei symvei apo to 333m.X. ws simera i den theleis na to deis.Oi Ellines htan apo ta prwta ethni pou aspastikan to xristianismo kai to monadiko pou poulemise giayton(polemoi enantion rwsswn,germanikwn fylwn,aravwn,avarwn sto vyzantio kai polloi polloi alloi).Ekatommyria Ellines exoun pethanei gia to xristianismo kai rwtas poia h sxesi elladas kai xristianismou? Edw kai aiwnes,arrikti...


Posted by: gate4  Posted on: Today at 13:29:09  
...gi auto kai se liga xronia tha parousiazei show stin tv me psuxagwgiko xaraktira. karagkiozakos einai o anthrwpos kai to apedeikse xthes to bradu, otan to kanali tou epaize tin wra twn apotelesmatwn, liza minelli, frank sinatra, whitney houston kai ekleise ti bradia me elliniki videokasseta me to sugxwremeno to rizo. milame toso megalo sebasmo gia ta 140K koroida pou ton pistepsan.

xexe mporei na parousiazei otidipote se liga xronia.Akomi kai spot gia tsontes.Omws den mporw na katalavw giati ton thewreis ligotero geloio apo olous tous politikous pou pithanon thewrountai ''sovaroi''.Mporei na thewreitai sovaroteros o ntaniel batista,i antzela gkerekou,o nikos apergis kai o astynomos theoxaris.Giati gia aytous den vlepw na ginetai logos.O Karatzaferis einai POLITIKOS kai ws politikos dra.Kaneis politikos den einai parthena.Prepei na paiksei to paixnidi tou oso ton pairnei alla O KATHENAS KRINETAI APO AYTA POU LEEI.Prokalw loipon olous aytous pou apokaloun ton Karatzaferi fasista,geloio,ktl ktl na mou poun ti kalyteres theseis eixan oloi aytoi oi klain main tis show biz pou piran tin psifo tou 90% tou elllinikou laou.Akrodeksios o karatzaferis,grafikos o tsovolas,ufo h papariga kai oi kanonikoi poioi eiste? oloi eseis pou katheste kai rixnete tin psifo tis ''allagis'' kai tis ''neas epoxis'' kai apo ayrio tha arxisete pali na gkriniazete.Fysika ayta den ta lew gia ton gate4,kathws oute tis politikes tou pepoithiseis kserw oute ti psifise xtes,oute an psifise.Alla gia opoion ws eksypnakias eirwneyetai ayta pou o allos psifizei.
Oso prodomenos tha eprepe na einai o psifoforos tou LA.O.S. xilies fores perissotero prodomenoi tha apodeixtoun oi psifoforoi tou pasok kai tis neas dimokratias.Na to deite.Kai oson afora tis xtesines ekpompes,den kserw ti tha eprepe na paizei o stathmos tin wra pou olo to komma itan sto epiteleio tou kai evlepe ta apotelesmata twn eklogwn.Twra stis 4 o karatzaferis vgainei kanonika stin ekpompi tou kai malista vgazei zwntana tilefwnimata ston aera.Twra ti einai? magkas?
Na doume tin antzela gkerekou twra kai ton panagiwti fasoula kai ton gianni iwannidi ti protaseis tha kanoun kai poia tha einai i prosfora tous.


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« Reply #75 on: March 08, 2004, 16:49:17 »
Posted by: lemmy  Posted on: Today at 13:23:11  
Re chris,mi mperdeuis ton ethnikismo me ton patriotismo.O Karatzaferis einai fasistas.Exei diafora.Pia i sxesi alloste tu Xristianismou me tin Ellada?  



Nomizw oti stin Ellada exoume xasei megalo meros tou noimatos genika.Tha ithela na rwtisw  ton filo Lemmy an gnwrizei ti einai o fasismos.An gnwrizei ti ekproswpei kai kata poson to komma LA.O.S. epivevaiwnei ayti ti thewria.Oson afora tin sxesi Xristianismou-Elladas to erwtima sou den to katalavainw.H den exeis ypopsin sou ti exei symvei apo to 333m.X. ws simera i den theleis na to deis.Oi Ellines htan apo ta prwta ethni pou aspastikan to xristianismo kai to monadiko pou poulemise giayton(polemoi enantion rwsswn,germanikwn fylwn,aravwn,avarwn sto vyzantio kai polloi polloi alloi).Ekatommyria Ellines exoun pethanei gia to xristianismo kai rwtas poia h sxesi elladas kai xristianismou? Edw kai aiwnes,arrikti...


Posted by: gate4  Posted on: Today at 13:29:09  
...gi auto kai se liga xronia tha parousiazei show stin tv me psuxagwgiko xaraktira. karagkiozakos einai o anthrwpos kai to apedeikse xthes to bradu, otan to kanali tou epaize tin wra twn apotelesmatwn, liza minelli, frank sinatra, whitney houston kai ekleise ti bradia me elliniki videokasseta me to sugxwremeno to rizo. milame toso megalo sebasmo gia ta 140K koroida pou ton pistepsan.

xexe mporei na parousiazei otidipote se liga xronia.Akomi kai spot gia tsontes.Omws den mporw na katalavw giati ton thewreis ligotero geloio apo olous tous politikous pou pithanon thewrountai ''sovaroi''.Mporei na thewreitai sovaroteros o ntaniel batista,i antzela gkerekou,o nikos apergis kai o astynomos theoxaris.Giati gia aytous den vlepw na ginetai logos.O Karatzaferis einai POLITIKOS kai ws politikos dra.Kaneis politikos den einai parthena.Prepei na paiksei to paixnidi tou oso ton pairnei alla O KATHENAS KRINETAI APO AYTA POU LEEI.Prokalw loipon olous aytous pou apokaloun ton Karatzaferi fasista,geloio,ktl ktl na mou poun ti kalyteres theseis eixan oloi aytoi oi klain main tis show biz pou piran tin psifo tou 90% tou elllinikou laou.Akrodeksios o karatzaferis,grafikos o tsovolas,ufo h papariga kai oi kanonikoi poioi eiste? oloi eseis pou katheste kai rixnete tin psifo tis ''allagis'' kai tis ''neas epoxis'' kai apo ayrio tha arxisete pali na gkriniazete.Fysika ayta den ta lew gia ton gate4,kathws oute tis politikes tou pepoithiseis kserw oute ti psifise xtes,oute an psifise.Alla gia opoion ws eksypnakias eirwneyetai ayta pou o allos psifizei.
Oso prodomenos tha eprepe na einai o psifoforos tou LA.O.S. xilies fores perissotero prodomenoi tha apodeixtoun oi psifoforoi tou pasok kai tis neas dimokratias.Na to deite.Kai oson afora tis xtesines ekpompes,den kserw ti tha eprepe na paizei o stathmos tin wra pou olo to komma itan sto epiteleio tou kai evlepe ta apotelesmata twn eklogwn.Twra stis 4 o karatzaferis vgainei kanonika stin ekpompi tou kai malista vgazei zwntana tilefwnimata ston aera.Twra ti einai? magkas?
Na doume tin antzela gkerekou twra kai ton panagiwti fasoula kai ton gianni iwannidi ti protaseis tha kanoun kai poia tha einai i prosfora tous.



File petrovgr.Ipa se epomeno post(simfonisa diladi me ton gate4),oti o karatzafereris ine ena emporos.Alla i ideologia pu pulai ine ethnikososialismos.Kati san ton Hitler.An de theoris fasista auton,tote ok.Oso tora gia ti sxesi Xristuianismu-Ellados ti na su po?Gia ti katastrofi pu epefere se auto pu leme elliniko pneuma?Les Bizadio,pia i sxesi tu,me tin Ellada?Posa ellinika mnimia exun katastrafi gia na ftiaksun ekklisies?Ta paradeigmata ine polla.Eksartate ti theoris ellada,alla file oi Xristianoi autus,pu opote mas simferi onomazume progonus mas,tus theoruse idololatres.Gia na mi po oti o Xristianismos,exi klepsi/danisti polla stoixeia ap ton Arxaio ellinismo kai oxi mono.Oxi den eimai ethnikistis,oute anabiotis tu arxaiou elliniku pneumatos,alla kalo einai na kserume kapoia pramata.....

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« Reply #76 on: March 08, 2004, 16:50:32 »
Re chris,mi mperdeuis ton ethnikismo me ton patriotismo.O Karatzaferis einai fasistas.Exei diafora.Pia i sxesi alloste tu Xristianismou me tin Ellada?
bre to ekshghsa ek twn proterwn oti h gnwmh mu apopsh einai la-8os.tonisa xarakthristika allwste oti "alimono an dextume oti yparxei to x h y komma pou exei ta..."apokleistika dikaiwmata" tu patriwtismu/e8nikismu ktl ktl...apla PWS alliws na ekshghsw to gegonos oti ta MEGALYTERA pososta tu laos htan sthn boreia ellada?doksa ton 8eo k thn panagia poosa alla mikra kommata yphrxan na pshfisei o ka8enas eite gia diamartyria,eite gia plaka,eite gia sobara,eite gia otidhpote o ka8enas 8elei..dimokratia exoume..NAI e8nikisths etsi opws to enoume o karatzaferhs den einai...den lew omws afto...lew ti perase ston kosmo oti einai to laos kai PWS exei tetoia pososta sth boreia ellada..sthn telikh kubenta kanume :)

OK.....Nai, sigura, kubenta kanume kai adalazume apopsis

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« Reply #77 on: March 08, 2004, 16:52:12 »
katarxin xeretw safto to 1o mu post tis apantaxou paokares.

niw8w arketa ahdiasmenos apto x8esino skinhko kai exw arxisei kata kapoio tropo na diaforopoiw kata poly tis apopseis mou.. eksigoumai:

eidame saftes tis ekloges (ke palaiotera sinenevene ala stis twrines 8a anafer8w) to gegonos na katevenoun ipopsifioi me diafora kommata kati apistefta tipakia pou kanenan logo den vriskw sto na iparxoun sthn politikh. eida ioannidi, gerekou, fasoula, mpatista kai ales toses apisteftes moures pou aporw, oxi giati iparxoun, alla giati katevenoun stis ekloges. TI NA MAS PEI O FASOULAS POU TO MONO POU EKANE SWSTA STH ZWH TOU HTAN NA VAZI MIA MPALA SE ENA KALATHI EPIDI HTAN PSILOS.. TI NA MAS PEI O IOANNIDIS POU EKANE DILWSEIS STO ALFA,thn imera ton eklogon kata tis 8, OTI ITAN SIGOUROS GIA TO 3PONTO(!!!!)(3s pontous panw apo pasok) THS ND.. tha mou peite me to mpasket asxolite, mpasketika ema8e na milaei.. TI NA MOU PEI H GEREKOU, O MPATISTA, O FRATZESKOS (paliotera an 8imame kala) klp klp... re mas doulevete?? telos panton lew (x8es) dikeoma tous einai na katevenoun.. aplos o ellinikos laos prepei TO LIGOTERO na tous timisei me ena @xidi..

sinexizume..

vlepw tileoptikes sizitiseis,orea panel,gnostous dimosiografous ,diaforous ipopsifious...
-¨8eloume twra na mas kanei kritikh h kiria VANA MPARMPA(!!!!!!)

nai kala akousate h vana mparmpa,pou egine diashmh vgenontas me ksoviza kai dixnwntas ta mpoutia ths..
pio katw ekane politikh kritikh h drouza pou egine gnosth epidi ths pernei ka8e kakogamhmenh gineka tilefono, o sergoulopoulos pou egine diashmos epidi ekane proini ekpomph kai oi nikokires ton vlepan san ¨filenaditsa¨ klp klp....
TI STO DIAOLO H MENEGAKH POU HTAN?!?
..pali kala pou den vgalan kiafthn na mas kanei politikh analisi...
(gia na imaste dikeoi,o monadikos pou paradextika(elpizw na to idate) htan o XARRY KLYN o opoios tous ta exwse sta isia kai gia thn politikh tous kai gia tous olimpiakous agwnes klpklp.. aftos omws ine ke oi doulia tou sto 8eatro na kritikarei thn politikh skinh)


tha mu peite giati sas anaferw olous tous parapanw... e loipon na eiste sigouroi oti oloi aftoi, pou ligo poly kserume SHMERA to parel8on tous, KAPOTE sto 2012 8a ZITANE KE AFTOI THN PSIFO MAS.. skeftite to ligaki..........................


erxome simera ke vlepw apotelesmata... o iwannidis eskise, o fasoulas mesa, gia ta alla sourgela den ema8a ala ime sigouros oti kai aftoi mesa einai... KAI KSERETE GIATI??  giati exoume ftasei sto shmeio na trwme oti mas pasaroun..... mas pasaroun shmera thn vana mparmpa, avrio 8a thn psifisoume... AKOMA KE TON MAMALAKH NA MAS PASAROUN THA TON PSIFISOUME..
exoume kantantisei tis ekloges anadiksh tou kaliterou star..


...giati mesa apo ena star system vgenoun oi neoi politikoi....


re mages sorry kiolas meta ta x8esina exw arxisei na antipa8w kai to dhmokratiko politevma... exw arxisei na pistevw oti afto pou ipe o HITLER pou kapote to koroideva, telika meta ta x8esina apodikniete oti exi kapio dikio... kai kserete ti ipe (anamesa se pola ala) o hitler?
.....¨h dimokratia einai to pio vlakwdes systhma giati dinei thn dinatothta akoma kai ston pio ili8io polith na psifisei¨....
poli fasistiko den akougete? kai etsi einai... aplws meta ta x8esina... e tou pousth... arxisa na pistevw oti exi kai kapio dikio.........    


petrovgr

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« Reply #78 on: March 08, 2004, 19:57:02 »
To oti to politiko systima pou aspazetai o Karatzaferis einai o ethnikososialismos to akouw prwti fora apo esena.Sto idrytiko keimeno tou kommatos anaferetai oti yparxei sevasmos se o,ti exei prosferei to kathe ethnos ston pagkosmio politismo.Gia na min pareksigithw,den exw kammia sxesi me ''kommatoskyla'' kai diafora tetoia,tha mporousa na psifisw to opoiodhpote komma pou symfwnw me tis apopseis tou,eite ayto legetai Kke eite ayto legetai laos eite opoiodipote.Alla epeidh stin ellada exoume voleytei me YBRIDIA kommatwn kai oxi PRAGMATIKA kommata,opoion paei na provallei ena komma katharwn thesewn ton leme ''oufo'' ''grafiko'' h ''fasista'' .
O Xitler loipon ithele na dimiourgisei tin areia fyli pou einai i ''indoeyrwpaiki'' opou o kathenas mas tha eprepe na eixe ta katallila xaraktiristika alliws den eixe ta kritiria na anikei se ayti.Exeis stroggylo kefali kai oxi platy? exeis mayro xrwma kai oxi aspro? den mporeis na thewreisai isaksios me ton allon.Efarmose politikes periorismou alloethnwn kai en pasei periptwsei,kammia sxesi den exei ayto me katastaseis pou zoume stin ellada.
Einai oufo protasi kathe fora pou 300.000 ellines theloun na tethei kati ypo dimopsifisma ayto na ginetai??? den einai symmetoxiki dimokratia??? h mhpws symmetoxiki dimokratia einai ayto pou leei o george papandreou pou zitaei na ton psifisoun enw einai o monadikos ypopsifios?
Einai ektos pragmatikotitas na prospatheis na katapolemiseis tis ektrwseis? H mipws einai proodeytiko kai fileleythero na vlepeis ''mia ellada'' na pethainei prin kan gennithei? exoun dei aytoi oi toso ''kanonikoi'' pws ginetai mia ektrwsi?
Einai xountiko kai fasistiko to na les oti den tha proskyniseis to mnimeio tou kemal atatourk pou egine aitia sfagis 400.000 toulaxiston ellinwn kai ton ektopismo 1.000.000 apo ta mikrasiatika edafi??? Gia olous tous laous ekei stin Mikra asia (ellines,assyrioi,armenioi,kourdoi,evraioi) o Xitler einai to idio pragma me ayton.Ki omws aytoi oi ''kanonikoi'' kai sosialistes k fileleytheroi simera katathetoun stefani sto mnimeio tou thewrwntas to to pio fysiologiko pragma.Anarwtiemai an irthe pote tourkos na afisei stefani sto mnimeio tou Miaouli,tou kolokotrwni i twn antartwn tis santas.

Gia to Byzantio kai ti sxesi tou me ton elliniko politismo den kserw ti diki sou sxesi,alla ksereis oti h hmimatheia einai to xeirotero pragma.
Egw xwris kammia diathesi na to paiksw eksypnakias i na sou pw oti swnei kai kala ayto pou lew einai swsto,tha sou pw na diavaseis ta parakatw vivlia kai na deis ti sxesi Byzantiou-Elladas epistimonika tekmiriwmeni,kai oxi se ampelofilosofies kafeneiou:

1)Anna Mixahl-Vyzantio kai ellada
2)Paul Lemerle-O prwtos vyzantinos oumanismos
3)Mixahl Psellos-xronografia
4)Anna Komnini-Aleksias
5)Michael Angold- H vyzantini aytokratoria apo ton 10 ws ton 12o aiwna (mia politiki istoria)
 
Yparxoun diafora vivlia pou exw diavasei pou anaferoun ta parapanw pou les,alla pouthena de vlepw TEKMHRIWMENES ISTORIKA H EPISTIMONIKA apantiseis.Vivlia opws h Antignwsi tis Lilis Zwgrafou h ta perifima ''aristourgimata'' tou Mimi Androulaki (pou parempiptontws apo ''thewritikos tou sosialismou'' {to akousame ki ayto} mas egine ypopsifios tou pasok kai twra efage htta) ,pou kinountai metaksy mythistorimatos kai mythoplasias.An exeis kapoia apopsi i kapoio arthro i kapoio vivlio pou leei oti Vyzantio+ellinikos politismos=asxeta h oti Ellada+Xristianismos=asxeta kai ta TEKMHRIWNOUN EPISTHMONIKA,tha xarw na to diavasw.



ksts

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« Reply #79 on: March 08, 2004, 21:56:01 »

Einai ektos pragmatikotitas na prospatheis na katapolemiseis tis ektrwseis? H mipws einai proodeytiko kai fileleythero na vlepeis ''mia ellada'' na pethainei prin kan gennithei? exoun dei aytoi oi toso ''kanonikoi'' pws ginetai mia ektrwsi?

Ola kala afta pou les file petrovgr,diladi sevasti i gnwmi sou.
Alla afto pou kanw quote apo to post sou mporeis na
mou peis ti sxesi exei?
Exeis dei esi pws ginetai ektrwsi?I' to exeis dei stin
tileorasi,i' se kamia eikona enos vivliou?
Egw to exw dei live giati se tetoio xoro kinoumai.
Ki epeidi i dinamiki tou gegonotos kai to paraskinio
pou krivetai apo pisw einai T E R A S T I A ,asto kalitera file mou.Katapiasou me alla themata pou fainetai na ta katexeis
kalitera kai ase to sigkekrimeno kai kalo tha itane na kanei to
idio ki o Karatzaferis ki o Xristodoulos.
Arketos ponos iparxei ston kosmo,den xreiazetai na
prosthetoume ki allon anaparagontas "thewries".