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Περί ασυλου στα πανεπιστημια
« on: November 10, 2006, 15:28:36 »
File xeroume oi perissoteroi poly kala ti symvainei stis poreies, poioi vazoun ta ..dolowmata, giati ta vazoun k ti ekmetalleuontai m'auto. Den thelw na kathagiasw kapoious eponomazomenous anarxikous i den xerw k egw ti allo legontas oti den ftaine autoi.Omws otan kaei ena autokinito i otan exoume to paramikro epeisodio se opiadipote dimarturia koinwnikou xaraktika, amesws ta kolokanala-tiledikastiria(pou koitame sa xanoi) pianontai ap'auto k asxolountai mon m'auto k tous deka alites(opws k sta gipeda) pou den kremaei i endoxi astynomia.Katalaves?Kapoioi trefontai ap'auti tin istoria.Vevaiws k de symfwnw me tetoies praxeis alla de boroume na trwme to tyri pou mas petane!
An pame parapera pame se vathytera ideologika zitimata k den einai i katallili stigmi i o katallilos xwros gia na ta syzitisoume.
Oso gia to makedoniko idiwma, kalytera epi tou thematos na paremvei kapoios o opoios katexei kalytera ta peri glwssologias,ethnous k politismou k borei na mas voithisei me mia pio ..epistimoniki apopsi.Edw akrivws itan k to kollima me to thema.O filos eixe grapsei oti sygkentrwthikan oi tade gia na fwnaxoun kati. E kai...Den katalavainw giati prepei na anaferthei edw k me kefalaia grammata, etsi sketo, xwris oute mia dikaiologisi, oute ena epixeirima pou na exei axiologithei.Poia itan i thesi tous? Giati? Etsi den peithomai k to vlepw ws diafimisi. De borei se kathe ti pou akougetai na petagomaste, prepei na antidroume ligo pio exypna.

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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2006, 15:45:55 »
e nomizo file na einai doloma ta autokinita pou yparxoun ekei giati xereis poly kala oti ta epeisodia polles fores ginontai kai makria apo tin prosymfonimeni poreia. Den to xerame na min parkaroume pouthena stin Athina gia na mi mas spasoun to amaxi kapoioi!!
Mipos kai to panepistimio pou kaigontai oi aithouses tou , to Polytexneio pou exei katastrafei toses fores einai dolomata?

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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2006, 16:39:20 »
de se eipa adiafwrw oute an8ellhna alla ka8e fwra pou prokeiptei ena tetio zhthma as to pw e8niko mou kanei panta entypwsh me th mania 8elloun kapioi na mas xallasoun thn syzhthsh kai na apoprosanatolisoun ton kosmo..

ayta pou 8ewrw oti pas na dikaiologiseis einai ayta twn peri poreiwn ktl.. mou 8ymizeis enan filo mou anarxiko pou leei kai aytos akribos ta idia.. alla kata ba8os goustaroun na spane ksenes periousies.me ekfraseis opws twra na eixe mia poreia na ksespasw!

egw eimai kata tou asylou.. exei ksefygei apo ka8e oria.. kai na rwthsw kati mias kai ksefyge h koubenta mas.. pios ekmetaleyetai to asylo edw kai 32 xronia? h gnwsth dikaiologia einai h eley8eria ktl... dhladh sto lykeio pou phgaina h sto ekswteriko pou den yparxei asylo empodize kaneis thn eley8erh ekfrash mou? einai kapia pragmata pou den stekoun!

oson afwra ayta peri shmaias,proseyxeis ktl. prepei na katalaboume/eis oti h ellada den einai opiodhpote kratos... dhl. egw an eixa geitona thn germania thn gallia to belgio me xara 8a sou elega terma oi parelaseis kai o ypoxrewtikos stratos.

dystixos omws den symbainei ayto. oloi 8eloun apo thn ellada kai ayto den to bgazw apo to myallo mou. eimaste monadikh xwra ths eyrophs pou ka8hmerina parabiazontai ta kyriarxika ths dikaiomata. 8a mou peis twra kai ti 8eleis polemo? ma fysika oxi! den eimai blakas. alla gia na exeis eley8eria kai dikaiosynh prepei na eisai ethmos na antimetopiseis enan polemo. des ti egine sto libano.. sto lew ayto giati merikh afeleis lene na kopoun ta xrhmata gia thn amyna.. to libano den exei oyte polemikh aeroporia oute polemiko naytiko dhladh den exei organwmenh amyna. kai mesa se liges meres to israil to isopedwse!! ayto gia na skeftomaste k ligaki ti leme...






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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2006, 16:47:08 »
Re file mou ennoeitai pos kathe fora pou symvainoun kapsimata sto panepistimio to syziteitai kai to asylo giati poly apla vlepeis na kaigontai kai na mi mporei kaneis na kanei kati. Kai o logos einai KAI to asylo. Ara einai fysiologiko.
Gia to thema me tin typolatreia tha sou po oti i latreia gia ti simaia yparxei se arketes xores tis Europis opos stin Italia kai ti Germania. Den einai fysika se para polles giati yparxoun kai xores xoris ethniki syneidisi i istoria opos to Louxemvourgo , i Elvetia , ti Lixnestain.
Gia tin proseuxi tha sou po oti i Ellada einai apo tis xores pou exei tautistei me tin Ekklisia kai me tin Thriskeia kalytera kai poly kala ekane. Auto giati se kairous dyskolous i thriskeia kai i glossa mas kratisan zontanous san ethnos.
Parelaseis yparxoun kai se alles xores. Prosfata malista imoun se parelasi sto Velgio. Kapou stis 10 Augoustou. Den eimai akrivos sigouros.
Einai lathos na sygkrineis tin ELlada pantos me to ti ginetai stis alles xores tis Europis giati poly apla opos leei kai to tragoudi ''edo einai Valkania''. Oloi theloume kati pio Europaiko alla apo tin alli oi geitones mas einai Alvania,Boulgaria,Skopia kai Tourkia. An loipon itan dipla mas i Souidia,Filandia , Norvigia ,Velgio kai Louxemvourgo profanos kai o stratos de tha itan ypoxreotikos , i simaia tha epaize isos mikrotero rolo kai profanos kai tha diname ligotera lefta sta exoplistika programmata.

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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2006, 17:01:33 »

Gia tin proseuxi tha sou po oti i Ellada einai apo tis xores pou exei tautistei me tin Ekklisia kai me tin Thriskeia kalytera kai poly kala ekane. Auto giati se kairous dyskolous i thriskeia kai i glossa mas kratisan zontanous san ethnos.
Parelaseis yparxoun kai se alles xores. Prosfata malista imoun se parelasi sto Velgio. Kapou stis 10 Augoustou. Den eimai akrivos sigouros.
Nai, opws sthn Xounta.tote pou o xristodoulos den eide, den akouse, giati ''diavaze''. h opws to 1821, pou oi papades fusika den h8elan na ginei tipota, giati ta eixan kanei plakakia me ton soultano.Mas doulevete re?

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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2006, 17:08:05 »
Sygnomi catala alla anaferomai stin thriskeia kai oxi ston Xristodoulo. Otna ta xemperdepseis tha katalaveis oti to ethnos mesa stous aiones to krataei zontao i glossa kai i thriskeia. Eidika gia orthodoxo kratos pou eimaste ligoi. Ellada, Servia .Rossia. Pros Theou den eipa na pisteuetai an de thelete. O kathenas kanei kai pisteuei oti thelei.
O stauros omos einai sti simaia mas kai de mporeoume na ton allaxoume tora.

Tsakalaki tha sou po kati. To oti tora den prokeitai na ginei polemos de simainei oti de tha xanaginei pote. Einai lathos na krinoume etsi apla kai vraxyxronia. Kapote ypirxe kai i Sovietiki Enosi alla kapoia stigmia teleiose. Auto simainei oti de xeroume ti tha ginei sto mellon kai an i Europi tha einai toso iremi perioxi i oxi.

Ena lla kako tou Ellina einai na ta xreonei ola stous Amerikanous. Pistepse me ftaine kai oi Tourkoi gia oti ginetai

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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2006, 17:30:05 »
Kai tha ithela oloi autoi pou lete oti pouthena allou den yparxoun parelaseis ktl tha ithela na mou apantisete pou allou yparxei to asylo.
Pou allou mporeis na dialyseis kai na kapseis to panepistimio kai an sou poun kati na tous katigoriseis kai os fasistes??? xaxa. Asteia pragmata diladi

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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2006, 17:57:12 »
Euris to proxoras to thema poly. To panepistimio den to ekmetaleuontai epixeirimaties. Sti Nomiki loipon tou Aristoteleiou eixame prota ena kylikeio pou nai men eixe ftines tyropites alla den trogontan kai itan mesa sti vroma. To kylikeio to pire o ''Grigoris'' kai apo tote mporei na edina miso euro parapano alla eixa kathara kai pio nostima fagita. Apo kei kai pera einai epilogi tou kathenos.
Giati mas peirazei ekei otan se oli mas ti zoi ektos panepistimiou feromaste allios? Otan pame gia kafe oloi tha pame stin Aristotelous ,paralia i opoudipote allou epeidi einai kalo to magazi. Giati den pame se kanenan kafene vromi pou tha exei ftino kafe? Etsi kai sto panepistimio. Plironeis ligo parapano alla exeis poiotita kai kathariotita.

Sygnomi pantos alla to thema einai i Makedonia mas edo. To leo epeidi einai pleon fanero oti eimaste 3-4 apo ti mia ideologiki vasi kai 3-4 apo tin alli kai to proxorame se ola ta themata. Den prokeitai na symfonisoume giati ta antimetopizoume diaforetika.

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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2006, 17:59:51 »
to fronima kai to h8iko prepei na einai ypsilo kata thn gnwmh mou.. oti opla kai na exeis ta pio sygxrona ta pio ekseligmena na den exeis anebasmeno to h8iko eisai xamenos apo prin.. ayto to skeptiko eixe kai o periklhs pou synexeia prospa8ouse na tonosei to h8iko!

oson afwra to asylo den eipa oti 8a ly8ei to 8ema ths paideias... alla den apanthses pios to ekmetaleyetai ayto to asylo ayta ta 32 xronia..


To diapistwsame kai sto euro 2OO4...

To thema tou asylo einai polydiastato. Ti tha pei to ekmetalleutikan? Kerdisan kati ap'auto?den ennow panta xrimatika..Ok prosferetai k ws kalypsi gia alles energeies alla to idio symvainei k me to agio oros..Autoi pantws pou ekmetalleuontai mia xara ton panepistimiako xwro einai oi epixeirimaties pou agorazoun ta kylikeia(a nai k mas kanoun ti xari na pinome kafe me 2euro giati sta kala kanei 4...). to provlima file den einai ekei, einai poly vathytera,stin antilipsi pou exoume oloi mas gia ta pragmata k to pws ta ekmetalluomaste. Px to paidaki sto sxoleio borei na kanei mia zimia, giati "tzaba einai" alla sto frontistirio "pou plirwnei" einai kyrios.exoume poly strava antilifthei ti symvainei gyrw mas.. An prospathisoume na entopisoume se vathos ta provlimata mas tha veltiothoume poly pio apotelesmatika.

K ston paok to na diwxeis to goumeno(ftou gamospite!) sketo,den exei antikrysma.Prepei na pareis tin katastasi ypo elegxo k auto apaitei polli skepsi k polli ...trivi me tin katastasi. Lysi fyge esy/ela esy tha ferei ta idia...




K esy imago otan tha erthoun oi tourkoi(otan......) na pas na valeis ta stithi sou mprosta k na tous exontwseis enw oi ellines k tourkoi politikoi k epixeirimaties tha pinoun mazi kafe k tha sas vlepoun apo tin tileorasi, gelwntas.

to ekmetaleytikan den ennow xrhmatika.. kai asylo an mhn yphrxe pali epixeirhmaties de 8a mpenan? allo lew egw. pioi ekmetaleyontai ayto to asylo pou den epitrepei ths eisodo sta organa ths taksews? an den mporeis na me apanthseis se ayto apanta me giati na yparxei asylo?
gia na antimetopiseis apo to ba8os to prblhma pou 9elw kai egw.. giati to kyrio problhma einai h nootropio pou se aythn symbalei h diaf8ora aksiwn tou h8oys kai toy sebasmou.. blepw shmera paidakia na zwris problhma na brizoun megalhterous blepame stis thleorashs paidakia na kanoun katalhpseis h koinwnia mas exei katareysh kai lypame poly gi auto.. den yparxei tpt or8io.. dystixos shmera gia na epanor8wseis ta pragmata prepei na askhseis piesei.. opws prosarmo8ikan oi ellhnes pou phgan sth germania etsi 8a prepei na prosarmo8oume kai edw..

ma egw eipa de ftaiei o goumenos kai tsampa ton brizoume..

ws ena shmeio edw exeis dikaio..twra omws me aythn thn logikh pou les esy omws 8a eprepe na eimaste adiafwrh gia ola pou hdh eimaste se ena ba8mo kai ayto mas exei kanei karpazoeispraktes pantoy se oloys toys tomeis