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[IronEagle]

oso gia ton IronEagle malon den exei idea apo australia allios den 8a milisou gia ta sinbola tis makedonias
idika sthn australia
opos leei kai o kazantsidis edw me vonazoun ellina kai sthn patrida kseno

 
File artemie den eipa kati gia tin Aystralia! Pragmatika ekplisosme!!!

[IronEagle]

H espanol phre to onoma ths giati otan idri8ike to 1900, oi tote omades ths barkelonhs eixan pollous 3enous, kai aytoi (foitites tou panepistimiou barkelonhs) 8elan na tonisoun to ispaniko stoixeio sthn omada tous. Alla3e merikes fores to onoma ths ews otou o tote basilias Alfonso o 13os,
tous apeneme ton titlo espanol giati goustare thn olh “filosofia” pisw apo to swmmateio.
e3ou kai to basiliko stema (ftou) sto logo tous....

Eisai apisteytos       , ekatses kai tin epsakses...?

Ti leei ? Dikaio8ika ?     

[Georgie-4-]

Breeeeee.... poliksere  giorgaki,
ELLINARA esy kai 8essalonikie, pou ama se rotiso pou ypiretises gia tin patrida ( to 2009 tha ypiretisw TIN patrida, syntaktiko ksereis ?)  kai pia esso eisai, 8a mou peis oti peires anaboli logou monimou katoikou eksoterikou breeeeee ELLINARA giorgakiiiiii..........!!!! Alla kata t'alla "pano ap'ola i patrida kai i ELLADA" kai ayto mallon pou exeis krifa esy sto myalo sou, ......."i poutsa tou tsolia"!!!!Bre poliksere, pou opote se synferei epikaleis tous syndesmou tou PAOK kai opote oxi, ka8ese kai tous katakrineis!!!!

Filarako avtoi pou spoudazoune pairnoun anavoli giati prosferoun stin patrida tous kai avti tous to antapodidei me avton ton tropo...
Eimai moninos katoikos Panoramatos Thessalonikis, gkegke ?
Oso gia tous syndesmous, otan den mporeis na epixeirimatologiseis, min pidas apo to ena thema sto allo...

Oso gia tin poutsa tou tsolia, oi mod ,pou einai evaisthitoi stous xaraktirismous kata twn syndesmwn, as deiksoune kai tin evaisthisia tous, se xaraktirismous kata melwn..

Me petixes sta kala mou simera kai 8a katso na (prospa8iso) na sou to eksigiso!!!!

Brreeee.... goirgakiiiii, stin Ollandia yparxei mia omada, ena a8litiko somateio, me to onoma HERACLES! (Gia ta tangalakia tou forum = Hraklis)! Ayti i omada loipon exei edra to Nijmegen (nomizo, den eimai sigouros, alla exei kai elaxisti simasia!!!), pantos agonizete sto prota8lima Ollandias!
Brrreeeeee giorgaki..... (Erotisi kano...??) ean se ekeini tin ollandiki poli loipon, zei kapios ELLINAS Hraklidaias, (prosekse to grafo analitikia gia tous an8ropous me idikes anages..., Hraklidaias ( Opws as poume Aridaias ?) Fila8los tou a8litikou somateiou Hraklis 8essalonikis!!!!), kai apofasisei loipon na idrisei ena syndesmo fila8lon ekei tou HRAKLH 8ESSALONIKHS oxi Tou Hercules...., kai bazei loipon ton imi8eo tis mi8ologias, kai san fonto tin Ollandia, 'H kalitera, to symbolo tis polis ekeinis....!  Ama ton deis ayton ton typako na kobei boltes stin stin 8essaloniki ....'H sto Heidelberg (Krima pou i poli fimizete gia ta panepistimia tis) ( Alloi spoudazoun ekei, kai alloi ta kseroun apo fotografia), me mia blouza s.f Hraklhs Nijmegen,me symbola ton Hrakli kai ton xarti tis Ollandias, pou 8a paei re SPIRTO (..bregmeno!!!!) to myaloudaki sou? ? Emena pantos 8a paei se ollando tourista!!!!

Gia na sto kano akoma pio eyklolo....!!!

Re file xrtisto den katalavainw, gia prospathise sta ellinika..

Breeeeee giorgaki, stin Ellada yparxei ena a8litiko somateio me to onoma Olymp iakos Piraios, kai ENA ALLO (mi ksana mperdepseis ton poutsa kai tin bourtsa) Olym piakos Bolou!!!
Ean tixon breeeeeee.... giorgaki deis pali enan typako me kokkini mplouza  pou na grafei s.f. Oly mpiakos / Bolou kai exei san symbola ton arxaio ayton gay kai to sxima tou nomou Magnisias (N.Magnisias grafikos panemorfos nomos, me xaraktiristiko sxima tou nomou, ......etsi breeeee giorgaki na ma8eneis kai 5 pragmatkia, kalo 8a sou kanoun)..... esena pali pou 8a sou paei to myaloudaki sou to ermo...? ? Ston ka8aytou Oly mpiako, 'H mipos ston Ol ympiako Bolou....!!!!

Ti sxesi exei o s.f.gay piraios ston bolo, na apeikonizoun to nomo kai ton topo proeleysi aytou syndesmou, otan i omada ayti pou ypostirizoun einai ston bromo-piraia kai oxi ston bolo?? ?? Ekei, kalos 'H kakos yparxei allo somateio me to idio onoma!!!! ....KAI EDO EINAI H OLH PLAKA, allo somateio alla ME TO IDIO SHMA!!!!

Kai oso, an exei to dikaioma ka8e Ellinas na xrisimopiei ta ELLINIKOTATA ayta symbola, 8a sou apantiso me mia leksi! .....EKSARTATE!!!!

Breeee giorgaki an ayrio me8ayrio kana 5-10  akra-akra-akra-akrodeksia PAOKTSHDES, apofsisoun na idrisoun ena silogo o opoios einai akra deksios, NAZI stikos 8a elega, kai apofasisoun loipon na exoun os symbolo tous, ena dikefalo aeto, kai na kratei sto podia to kageloto stayro tou Hitler, (Hacken-kreuz)! Esy pisteyeis oti exoun ta ka8e dikaioma na to kanoun  epeidi apla einai PAOK? ? ?   Ti les breeeeeeeeee  giorgakiiiiiiii...., pou exei to dikaioma o KA8ENAS na XRISIMOPIEI TA SYMBOLA MOU GIA KA8E TIXON MALAKIA DIKIA TOU!!!!

Kai an tixon breeeeeee. giorgaaaakiiiiii.... kapioi alloi satanistes xrisimopieisoun to idio sima , me ton dikefalo na kratei kapia pentalfa kai sto soma tou aetou na exei diafora symbola tou satana,opos p.x. to 666 kai tous anapodous stayrous, ...........soooooopaaaaaaaa  breeee giorgaki pou exei to dikaioma na disfimizei ton aeto tou PAOK , me to epixirima epeidi KAI  aytos einai PAOK!!! Kai an ta dei kapios asxetos breeee giorgaki ta en lgo symbola, (asxetos = i mana kai i kopela mou! Ena paradeigmataki giorgakiiii, giati den einai oloi sxetikoi kai polikseroi san ki esena) pia 8a einai i antidrasi tous breeeee giorgakkiiii.....? ? ?? Ksereis ti 8a poune ?  ? ? Eseis oi paktsides oloi satanistes eiste, breee giorgaaaakiiii.....!!!! Sooopppaa  pou epeidi einai ELLINES kai PAOKtsides exoun to dikaioma na xrisimopioune to sima tou PAOK! Ean de symfoneis kai se ayto tote 8a arxiso na pisteyo oti esai poli xamilou dikti no'i'mosinis!!!!

Gi ayto sou leo breeee giorgaki,   allo i poutsa kai allo i bourtsaaa!!! (Pou mou aneferes magazia stin germania kai e8nikes giortes gia na mou apodikseis oti kala ekanan  oi bazeloi!!!)


Pros Moderators: Re paides, kante kati me tis Leksis oly mpiakos kai 8ri los! Prox8es se ena allo mou post eixa grapsei gia ton 8ri lo tis ouggarias debreceni kai mou bgeike 8r(h)nos! Kai ston oly mpiakos, anagastika na  to grapso diekikomena, giati allios 8e ebgene gay-bros! Kai milousa gia ton ....boloy!!! 8a mou peis oti ki ekeinoi gay einai, alla gia na ginei pio katano'i'to ston giorgaki mas!!!

Exeis xasei tin mpalla telika...re paidia as kanei kapoios metafrasi twn parapanw gia mena..
Ena thema ksekinises kai to exeis kseskisei, den ksereis ti les, mia apo edw mia apo ekei...
Grapse sta ellinika ta epixeirimata sou, kai pes mas ti ypostirizeis mipws etsi vgaloume noima...

Esy mono gia syzitisi epipedou eisai...

[Suicidal]

@tzortzi
done! apla douleyoume ki emeis kai den ta prolabainoume ola in time.

@iron
ginese poly kourastikos, les les les, kai sthn ousia (proswpika toulaxiston etsi nomizw) den les tipota.
den 3erw an dikaio8ikes giati den 3erw ti ennoeis. ayta peri espanol den ta epsa3a , ta h3era, (ektos tou onomatos tou basilia tote, ayto NAI to epsa3a) mhn blepeis pou apantisa shmera.....

epeishs iron paratirw ena yfos tou typou/styl
"opeios den zei ellada den 3erei ti paizei akribos",
"otan sas ta'lega egw gia ellada",
"etsi h ellada" allios h ellada" "parallios sthn ellada",

se plhroforw oti an exeis thn entipwsh pws "anakalypses thn amerikh" epeidh exeis 3-4 xronia sthn ellada,
eisai poly gelasmenos. stamata to ayto se parakalw an ginete.
filika,Billys
yg: prosexe please tous xaraktirismous sou styl poutses kai tsoliades ktl. eyxaristw. to proigoumeno sou post egine edit sto sygkekrimeno shmeio.

[Conan4]

Λίγα λόγια και σταράτα μάγκες.

Εφόσον ο σύνδεσμος μας - όπως προανέφερε και ο georgie4 - έχει στο σήμα του το "Muenchner Kindl" (που είναι το σήμα του Δήμου Μοναχου)...πιστεύω πως όλοι καταλαβαίνετε ποια είναι η θέση μου:

Το αν κάποιος είναι μακεδόνας, δεν εξαρτάται από την ομάδα που αγαπάει, όσο και ας μας πονάει αυτό. Και απορώ πως πείρε τέτοιες διαστάσεις το όλο θέμα... 

IronEagle, φοβάμαι αδερφέ πως σε αυτό το θέμα ρίχνεις κανονιές πάνω σε σπουργίτια (ελεύθερη μετάφραση του γερμανικού ρητού: "Mit Kanonen auf Spatzen schiessen"). Και οι κόντρες με τον georgie4 συνεχίζονται... (άντε πάλι  )... βρε είστε και οι δυο χοντροκέφαλοι 

Και μια υποσημείωση...ούτε καν η καταγωγή δεν έχει πλέον σημασία. Πόσοι Πόντιοι και Θρακιώτες (=Conan) π.χ αισθάνονται Mακεδόνες;

[artemios]

na kanw mia xazh erwtish
an  ginei mia erasitexnikh omada as poume gauros toumpas thessaloniki exei dikaioma sto sumbolo tou leukou pirgou???

[IronEagle]

file @artemie to apantas monos sou...  8essalonikis de 8a legete i omada ? ? ?  Isos na min mporo na to empedeso me logia ayto pou 8elo na sas eksigiso! ...Isos omos na min 8elete kai na katalabete! To teleiono pragmatika edo giati de blepo prgamtika kamia ousia!        Apla....

file @conan mporeis na mou eksigiseis giati o filos sou, einai ENERGO MELOS STIN OMADA TOU 1860 kai oxi kapias allis? ? Opos les den paizei rolo i katagogi tou ka8enos gia to pia omada einai! Giati loipon 1860? ? Yparxoun toses kai toses omades pou 8a mporouse na dosei ta lefta tou!

@georgie agooriiii mou afou den eisai se 8esi (akoma) na kaneis sizitisi, giati to paleyeis? Asto! Oute mia apantasi tis prokopis

re sy ksekolla apo tin zwi sou...

Agkagkaougkagka...Mallon na mas trelaneis valthikes simera..Exeis xasei mallon tin epafi me tin pragmatikotita kai dystyxws na se voithisw den mporw..

muuuuhhhhhhh....

Katalavainw tin logiki sou, kai egw apo mikros zwgrafiza diastimoploia, avto den simainei omws oti eimai apo ton Ari,

Do you speak Greek ?
 pane asxolisou me ton Edessaiko kai tous Katarraktes kai ase emas tous Thessalonikeis me ton PAOK mas kai ton Levko Pyrgo mas..

Re file xrtisto den katalavainw, gia prospathise sta ellinika..
Exeis xasei tin mpalla telika...re paidia as kanei kapoios metafrasi twn parapanw gia mena..

...kai kata t'alla pareksigi8ikes gia to sin8ima pou fonazame sto EYRO me ton "tsolia" kai ekanes kai parapona stous mod's! Ta muuuhhh kai ta mpeee omos de se peirazoun? ? ?  Eeeeeee giorgaki?? Mipos prepei na fao kai ban ?? Gia ksana pes tous, mporei na fao pou ksereis!!

File @billy pou to eides to yfos mou gia to "ti ginete stin Ellada" kai to oti "den kserete ti ginete stin Ellada" se ola mou ta post aytou tou topic ? ? ?  Me ekpliseis kai esy!!!      

To oti zoume se ena afrikaniko kratos me leykous katoikous, distixos eksakribonete ka8imerinos! Apo a8litika, (opou EKEI kai an den isxyei o nomos tou isxyrou! Meta apo anakoinosi kata tis diaitisias (me tin seira) apo Ksan8i, Paok, Larisa, prosti8ete kai o Atromitos! Se oles, koinos paranomastis, ...antipaloi tou gay!), pername se politika, (opou ginonte katagelies DIMOSIOS apo iparkta onomata kata kapion kyrion Mpatatoudi, Loubari, tsoukala, ypoklopes, vodafone, kai polon allon kai den asxoleite kaneis ......MA KANEIS!), alla kai to xeirotero olon, akoma kai se KOINONIKA 8emata! 16 xroni pou kanei metamosxeysi aimatos prosbli8ike apo 'i'o tou AIDS giati to aima pou tis ebalan itan molismeno me ton 'i'o tou AIDS! Milame gia 16xroni! Oso pou les oti anakalipsa tin Ameriki se ayto to 8ema, pragamti file mou, DEN TIN PERIMENA TOSO XALIA !!!! Omos......., OK! Afou katalaba oti sas peirazei kai den 8elete na "akoute" tis xontrades / adikies pou ginonte , poli apla den tis ksana anafero! Kai paralila stamatao kai ton "prosopiko mou polemo" kata tis adikias / symferonton / diaf8oras kai yper tis ANAPTIKSEIS TOU TROPOU ZOHS STHN ELLADA!

Kai gia na teleioso apo ekei pou ksekinisa (giati kapou ston "dromo" xa8ike i mpala kai ksefigame teleios) kai einai to teleyteo pou grafo (ean fysika den akolou8isei kana eironiko sxolio apo ton sini8is ypopto giorgaki mas)....

Opos sto final four tis Romis sto volley, sta imitelika agonizotan oi omades 8essaloniki vs. Belgorod kai ston teliko, 8essaloniki vs. Treviso, opou o iraklis ANTIPROSOPEYE tin 8essaoliniki kai o lokomotiv tin Belgorod klp., etsi kai o pana8inai'ikos ANTIPSOPEYEI - SYMBOLIZEI tin a8ina! O Leykos Pirgos symbolizei tin 8essaliniki kai to Asteri tis Berginas tin Makedonia! Ena symbolo me ola ayta ta symbola mazi, diladi Leykos pirgos, Asteri berginas kai trifili bazelou, einai apla TOURLOUKOULOUBAXATA!!!  ...opoios katalabe , katalabe!!!

Aaaaaaa... kai opos les gioragi na pao na do tous S.F. tou Londinou kai tis New York, pane des esy kalitera tis selides ton S.F. Reutlingen tin foberi ayti douleia ton paidion apo ekei, opou gia enter exoun balei ton Asteri tis Berginas, kai oxi to sima tis Mercedes gia na deiksoun oti i katagogi tou en logou sindesmou einai stin poli opou "ftiaxnonte" ta poli gnosta ayta autokinita! Kai o S.F. Rodou me to fobero ayto intro, opou o filos @zorro, den ebale kanena koloso tis Rodou, gia na deiksei oti i katagogi tou einai apo to panemorfo nisi alla enan Aeto!

"Poutses is not Bourtses" , ...opos lene kai oi filoi mou oi katalanoi!!!!       

[Georgie-4-]

ironeagle asto re agori mou..
min to kourazeis to thema..

Gia mena to thema teleiwse..kai o kathenas evgale ta symperasmata tou..

Ante kai tou xronou

[IronEagle]

Kai o pitsirikos sinexizei.....
Me ta ypoloipa quotes pou ekana sto pro'i'goumeno post mou, opou den dinei kamia ma kamia sobari apantisi prosti8iete kai ayto....

ironeagle asto re agori mou..
min to kourazeis to thema..

Oso gia to an apantisei me kapio eironiko sxolio, pali mesa epesa o poustis

Ante kai tou xronou

Na se rotiso bre esy tzortzi! Afou den exeis na peis kati simantiko, giati mpeneis se kopo kai apantas ? ? ? To kaneis mono kai mono gia na tsitoneis emena prosopika, 'H to exeis mesa sou genikos ayto ? ? ? Diladi tou,*************** edit by chris To afisa edo kai kairo tzortzako, apla mpika stin diadikasia na apantiso ston filo ton artemio gia tin poli sosti episimansi pou ekane! Kai na eisai sigouros tzortzopoule, to an to "afiso" 'H oxi, esy 8a eisai o teleyteos pou 8a rotousa edo mesa!

[IronEagle]

Pros moderator's: Kai ftiakste epitelous ayto to ga....    orolo'i'! H ora pou esteila to minima einai 12:05 kai oxi 10:05!
'H eksigiste mas pianeis xoras ora deixnei to orolo'i' tou forum!

(Mou 8imizei to orolo'i' tis Toumpas , pou pote den doulepese sosta!!!!)

[Georgie-4-]

"na petagese san ti poutsa apo to braki" aney logou kai ousias! To afisa edo kai kairo tzortzako

opoios mod mpei mesa parakalw na kanei edit to sygkekrimmeno simeio..
kai na tou kanei mathimata kosmias symperiforas..opws armozei kai stous kanones tou forum

[bannon]

Pros moderator's: Kai ftiakste epitelous ayto to ga....    orolo'i'! H ora pou esteila to minima einai 12:05 kai oxi 10:05!
'H eksigiste mas pianeis xoras ora deixnei to orolo'i' tou forum!

(Mou 8imizei to orolo'i' tis Toumpas , pou pote den doulepese sosta!!!!)

http://www.paokworld.com/paokworldboard/index.php/topic,2804.0.html

[IronEagle]

.......ouououoppppssss        ! Sorry!!!           Den to ikserea ayto gia to rolo'i'!     

(An kai pali den einai sosti, giati apo oti ksero me to belgio exoume 1 ora diafora, diladi sto Belgio tora prepei na einai 11:25 kai oxi 10:25 pou grafei to post mou!)

Dont worry

[chris]

prepei na eginan ta edit @georgie-4

gia gelia k gia klamata einai afto to topic

[IronEagle]

"na petagese san ti poutsa apo to braki" aney logou kai ousias! To afisa edo kai kairo tzortzako

opoios mod mpei mesa parakalw na kanei edit to sygkekrimmeno simeio..
kai na tou kanei mathimata kosmias symperiforas..opws armozei kai stous kanones tou forum

Parimia einai tzartzakoooo, mia apli parimia! mporeis na tin peis se opoion katantaei spastikos, kourastikos kai genikos se kapoion pou den sinisferei se tipota!
Alla pou ksereis an klapseis akoma ligo    mporei kai na fao kai ban!
(Meta 8a mou peis to kolpo ma ta IP gia na sinexiso na stelno minimata, opos esy pio palia?)

http://www.paokworld.com/paokworldboard/index.php/topic,4907.msg69071.html#msg69071

(mia kai de mou bgenoun ta perobo'i'ta foto sou , as grapso kai tin selida!)

 "    Απ: ΟΠΟΙΟΣ τολμήσει να συνδέσει τα επεισόδια με τους Συνδέσμους του ΠΑΟΚ θα απαντήσουμε με ΜΥΝΗΣΕΙΣ
« Απάντηση #52 στις: Μαρτίου. 04, 2006, 13:24:04 »  

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Xristaki meta apo ta ban arxisame kai ta ban ip agorina mou`?

to kalo to palikari kserei kai allo monopati..POSO THA EKTETHEIS AKOMA ?

malakas eimai ?


Xristaki alli douleia den exeis apo to na bannareis IP ?
Ksereis posa ip tha sou vrw..ante vrikes asxolia..

POso romba mporeis na gineis ?

Kai allo ban ip vre ? ataktouli...


 Απ: ΟΠΟΙΟΣ τολμήσει να συνδέσει τα επεισόδια με τους Συνδέσμους του ΠΑΟΚ θα απαντήσουμε με ΜΥΝΗΣΕΙΣ
« Απάντηση #56 στις: Μαρτίου. 04, 2006, 13:56:21 »  

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Ela otan esy mathenes forum, emeis grafame tous kwdikes..
Egine lathos ? kai giati stamatise twra to lathos?
Mipws irthe kaneis apo to Dibiday ?
Vre se peirakse to ataktoulis? to pairnw pisw ss.

Ma na synexizeis na ginese di kappa ?

Allakste forum einai ellatwmatiko..3,5 xronia eimai edw..twra arxise to foroum na me bannarei ta IP..

Alla..

MIKRYNE O PAOK MAS POUSTEPSE O LAOS MAS, etsi ?  "


.........Ton anagnorizete.....? ? Idios o giorgakis mas!

[Georgie-4-]

Eleos...
alla gia olous yparxei elpida..

keep going ironeagle, diaskedazoume   

[IronEagle]

.....Ego na deis !!!!   

[Aponos]

Teleiwsate? 

Forum einai oxi msn.

Ama exete na peite kati o enas ston allon..pm!

Auta 

[Georgie-4-]

@tzortzi
done! apla douleyoume ki emeis kai den ta prolabainoume ola in time.

@iron
ginese poly kourastikos, les les les, kai sthn ousia (proswpika toulaxiston etsi nomizw) den les tipota.
den 3erw an dikaio8ikes giati den 3erw ti ennoeis. ayta peri espanol den ta epsa3a , ta h3era, (ektos tou onomatos tou basilia tote, ayto NAI to epsa3a) mhn blepeis pou apantisa shmera.....

epeishs iron paratirw ena yfos tou typou/styl
"opeios den zei ellada den 3erei ti paizei akribos",
"otan sas ta'lega egw gia ellada",
"etsi h ellada" allios h ellada" "parallios sthn ellada",

se plhroforw oti an exeis thn entipwsh pws "anakalypses thn amerikh" epeidh exeis 3-4 xronia sthn ellada,
eisai poly gelasmenos. stamata to ayto se parakalw an ginete.
filika,Billys
yg: prosexe please tous xaraktirismous sou styl poutses kai tsoliades ktl. eyxaristw. to proigoumeno sou post egine edit sto sygkekrimeno shmeio.

egw teleiwsa meta apo avto to post..alla otan anaferete kapoios sto proswpo mou eimai ypoxrewmenos na apantisw..
an paratiriseis ta post meta tou BillYpoglwssioS  tha katalaveis...

Avta

[artemios]

file  IronEagle  auto einai geniko den einai gia sena
den katalavenw giati prepei na xaliomaste an den sinfonoume gia  kati o ka8enas exei tin dikia tou apopsi
kai gia auto to logo iparxi to forum an sinfonousame se ola 8a itan o kosmos paradisenios
oso gia to 8ema tis australias malon me pareksigises den eipa tipota enantion sou  edw epeidi mas lipei polu i ellada ta sunbola ta exoume kai ta sevomaste poio entona apo tous eladites giati eimaste merika xiliades xiliometra makria