Ενοποίηση συνδέσμων & Πόσους συνδέσμους χρειάζεται ο ΠΑΟΚ στην Θεσσαλονίκη

[Tom_Araya]

Apo th stigmh pou arxisa na asxoloumai me to syndesmitiko kinima tou PAOK, mou eixe kanei entypwsh to gegonos oti den einai ennopoihmenh, me thn enoia oti yparxoun oi makedones, h 8yra4, oi voreioi, oi dytikes synoikies kai oi aneksarthtoi syndesmoi. Ayto to 8ewrw megalo la8os, giati ayth h diaforopoihsh einai aitia trigmwn stis sxeseis twn paoktzhdwn (mou exei tyxei peristatiko na mou zhtan se syndesmo tou PAOK taytothta gia na doun se poia organwsh anoikei o syndesmos ths polhs mou, wste na kseroun an 8a mou dwsoun mplouzes!!!). To 8etiko einai oti kai poloi syndesmites exoun arxisei na pisteyoun oti prepei na ginei enopoihsh twn syndesmwn, ka8ws se sxetikh kouventa pou ekana me atoma apo ta kentrika ths 8yras4 otan phga na egraftw ekei, mou eipan oti h twrinh katastash den voitha se tipota. Entaksei 8a peite, apo logia exoume xortasei, to 8ema einai na doume na ginetai kai kapoia kinisi pros aythn thn katey8insh. Na  omws pou apo oti fainetai ayth th fora den 8a minoume sta logia. Vlepete, o tasos o maskoforos exei arxisei ta thlefwna se olous tous syndesmous ths eparxeias, me skopo na tous enopoihsei!!! Mia kinhsh h opoia einai TERASTIAS SHMASIAS, afou ta provlhmata pashs fysews pou antimetwpizei enas syndesmos ektos 8es/nikhs einai terastia (pou na deite kai ektos makedonias....). Gnwrizw vevaia oti mia tetoia prospa8eia exei para poles dyskolies, se periptwsh omws pou pragmatopoih8ei ta ofelh 8a einai anari8mhta. Elpizw na pane ola kala kai na epiteyx8ei o -dyskolos- stoxos.

[ksts]

Auto pou mou kanei entipwsi einai:
APO POU KI WS POU THEWREITAI DISKOLO NA ENOPOIITHOUN
OI SINDESMOI TOU PAOK?TI EINAI AFTO POU XWRIZEI
TOUS SINDESMOUS?PRWSOPIKES ANTIPATHEIES?KATI ALLO?
Tes pantwn.
Prin kapoio kairo eixa diavasei se mia sinentefxi enos sindesmiti
oti ean to sindesmiako kinima tou PAOK eixe tin sinoxi pou parousiazei o super3 twn skoulikiwn,tote den tha ipirxe
apo Katerini kai panw sindesmos athinaikis omadas.
Nomizw ta leei ola gia tin terastia dinami pou mporei na exei
to ENWMENO PAOKTSIDIKO SINDESMIAKO KINIMA.

[Dragon4]

Makari na ginei enopoihsh,fantasteite ta ametrita club tou PAOK na sunergazontai metaksu tous,na boithoun kapoia alla pou antimetwpizoun provlimata,kai na perifrouroun oli ti B.Ellada!!!! :b&w:

SYNERGASTEITE KAI GAMHSTE TOYS OLOUS RE!!! :b&w:

[panzer4]

Epitrepsate mou na diafwnhsw, eidika sto shmeio opou anaferetai o super3 ws upodeigma enothtas. na 8umisw oti oi superades me mprostarh to saouridh tolmhsan na katoxurwsoun nomika thn oikonomikh ekmetalleysh tou shmatos ths omadas tous, afoy h dioikhsh tous den eixe praksei analogws.apotelesma htan na parakalaei h pae arhs to super 3 na ths paraxwrhsei kai auths tetoia dikaiwmata!!pou akousthke syndesmos na katoxyrwnei to emblhma mias omadas les kai einai tsifliki tou!!! pi8anh enopoihsh twn syndesmwn gia mena 8a shmanei to telos ka8e agnhs ekfrashs, afou oi megaloi ews twra sundesmoi sigoura 8a kapelwsoun tous mikroterous. afhste pou hdh o tropos leitourgias tous einai se polles periptwseis aparadektos kai para8etw merika paradeigmata: 1. telikos me to erpeto kai to kapelo sta eisithria eftane ta 20 kai pleon euro 2. o panellhnios sundesmos ths a8hnas zhthse egrafh gia na dwsei eisithria gia to paixnidi sta liosia me ton akrathto fetos, para to gegonos oti eimaste hdh melh allou sundesmou, autou ths aglias 3. ta fetina diarkeias gia thn 4 an kai kostizoun 140 euro pwlountai apo sundesmous 150  4. de xreiazetai na makrugorw perissotero afou oloi sigoura 8a exete paromoia paradeigmata.

ws pros to zhthma ths sunergasias, auto nomizw oti eksupakouetai oti einai epivelhmeno o megaluteros sundesmos na voh8aei to mikrotero.alla allo sunergasia kai allo enopoihsh

[Tom_Araya]

Panzer4, den amfisvitw ayta pou les, alla mallon den ekshghsa kala to olo skhniko pou paizetai sxetika me aythn thn kinhsh. To skeptiko -tou maskoforou, giati aytos einai o prwtergaths- einai oloi oi syndesmoi tou PAOK pou vriskontai ektos 8es/nikis na ennopoih8oun, me thn ennoia oti den 8a yparxoun pleon p.x. makedones kerkyras, 8yra 4 serrwn klp. , alla oloi oi syndesmoi ektos 8es/nikis (KAI aytoi pou einai sto ekswteriko) na yparxoun ypo enan enoiaio "organismo" , as to pw etsi. Skopos einai se ka8e poli na yparxei enas pragmatika dynatos syndesmos tou PAOK (ayti ti stigmi se poles poleis syndesmoi tou PAOK fytozwoune) , etsi wste na "myh8oun" poloi perisoteroi (kyriws notioelladites) sthn magia tou PAOK. Kai einai polu shmantiko to gegonos oti pleon oi syndesmoi ths eparxias den 8a eksartwntai apo aytous tis 8es/nikis gia eishthria. Apo oso kserw hdh 15 syndesmoi exoun mpei sto kolpo, me tous ypoloipous na einai 8etikoi na prosxwrhsoun. Pantws syntoma 8a ma8oume perisotera gia thn kinhsh ayth, ka8ws o tasos o maskoforos 8a emfanistei sthn TV. Idwmen...

[kostas4]

@panzer4:

Αυτο που λες για τους συνδεσμους για τα εισιτηρια σωστος εισαι.Πλεον ουτε παταω σε συνδεσμο για τα εισιτηρια.Παω μια εγγραφη,3 ευρω,την επομενη ενισχυση τον συνδεσμο 3 ευρω,την αλλη μηνιαια συνδρομη 3 ευρω...ρε δεν γαμιεστε??Υποτιθεται οι συνδεσμοι πρεπει να τα πουλανε πιο φτηνα.

Ειμαι κατα της ενοποιησης αλλα υπερ της αδερφοποιησης.Αν εχουν καλες σχεσεις μεταξυ τους δεν χρειαζετε τιποτα αλλο.

[chris]

POLY KALA ta lete paidia oloi sas,kai exete APOLYTO DIKIO ,apla "gyrofernete" oloi gyrw apo to idio 8ema..exete ousiastika tis idies apopseis..aplws mperdevosaste ligo

HDH apo to 1996 an 8ymamai kala me PRWTERGATH ton SF PAOK BEROIAS k HGETH ena apo TA IERA TERATA TU LAOU TU PAOK ,ton tote proedro ths ton FWTH[enas einai o fwths :hb:] ydri8hke h Pannelhnia Omospondia Syndesmwn Filwn PAOK "BOREIOI"..

STOXOS THS/SKOPOS:ola ta parapanw pu lete oloi sas,gia to endynamwma twn EPARXIAKWN syndesmwn.
perase apo polles trikymies afth h SYNOMOSPONDIA alla en etei 2003 SYNEXIZEI DYNAMIKOTATA me 18 eparxiakous syndesmous ws epi to pleiston.me ta kala tu alla k ta arnhtika tu.teleios den einai kanhs,mono o 8eos

an ONTWS emfanistei AKOMA mia kinhsh antistoixh pu 8a exei ws STOXO thn ENDYNAMWSH K TWN YPOLOIPWN EPARXIAKWN SYNDESMWN nomizw oti prepei na STHRIXTEI k afth apo olous mas.

kai opws eipe kai o @kwstas4 OUTE organwseis xreiazomaste,oute pararthmata!,kalh wra 8yra4/makedones.PROS 8EOU!

afth h "logikh" twn pararthmatwn k twn organwsewn ef8ynetai EN MERH gia to "ka8isma" tu syndesmiaku kinhmatos..

mia SYNOMOSPONDIA....xalarh...se STYL "BOREIWN" H "DYTIKWN SYNOIKIWN" einai to teleio k to aparaithto.
DHLADH o ka8e sf na exei thn aftonomia tu se oti afora thn leiturgia TU,ta oikonomika TU,tis ekdromes TU ,ta melh TU,ta eidh syndesmou TU..kai ainte k kana KOINO hmerologio h mplouza..KAI OLOI MAZI MIA PAREA GIA TIS KOINES EKDROMES,KA8WS K SE OTI ENAS SYNDESMOS EXEI ROLO YPARKSHS[ekdromes,kerkides,paoktshdikh "ekpaidefsh" stus neoterous,ola ASPROMAVRA ston tomea/polh tu ktl ktl]

[chris]

afhste pou hdh o tropos leitourgias tous einai se polles periptwseis aparadektos kai para8etw merika paradeigmata: 1. telikos me to erpeto kai to kapelo sta eisithria eftane ta 20 kai pleon euro

@giannh/panzer4
phgaine ligo k diabase pali-an to exeis kanh hdh dhladh- to TOPIC se AFTHN thn enothta
<<PARAPONA gia thn dianomh twn eishtiwn TU TELIKU enysxish syndesmwn apo SYNDESMITES K MH>>kapoies aporeies isws k na ly8oun..

 2. o panellhnios sundesmos ths a8hnas zhthse egrafh gia na dwsei eisithria gia to paixnidi sta liosia me ton akrathto fetos, para to gegonos oti eimaste hdh melh allou sundesmou, autou ths aglias

an egine afto sigoura den htan k oti kalytero anamfibola..alla k ti na poun syndesmoi ths 8essalonikhs-dytika meria-pu 2 fores! eixan organwsei OIKONOMIKH ENYSXHSH tu TOTE {etos 2002}kleistou PANELLHNIOU SF A8HNWN sta melh tus ,exontas ontas OI IDIOI prwta dika tus oikonomika problhmata?mia erwthsh kanw me kaloproaireth dia8esh..O PANELLHNIOS SF PAOK A8HNWN DEN PREPEI NA KLEISEI POTE!POTE!gia osous exoun zhsei a8hna..phgainan na paroun thn efhmerida PAOKTSHS apo thn omonia k fevgontas eixan "ntrabala"..gia osous phgainan ston sf..k fevgontas tus akolou8usan kapoioi "typoi".. sta stena..k eixan ntrabala..ktl ktl.me KALOPROAIRETH dia8esh ta parapanw k logw ths SPOUDAIOTHTAS twn EKEI "PRESBEIWN" mas.

3. ta fetina diarkeias gia thn 4 an kai kostizoun 140 euro pwlountai apo sundesmous 150  

an exeis APTES APODEIKSEIS gia to POIOS h POIOI syndesmoi phran ta eishthria sthn g4 140e ,enw kostizoun 150e mh distaseis na to grapshs![STO LEW GIATI EIMAI MESA STIS DYTIKES SYNOIKIES K TA EISHTHRIA TA PHRAME 150e!
[den synh8izw ksereis na ekti8emai dhmosia gia afta pu grafw,opote GRAPSE me APODEIKSEIS poios SF ta phre me 140e ok?

[panzer4]

auta pou egrapsa sxetika me ta kapela sta eisithria kai thn -se orismenes periptwseis- kakh leitourgia twn sundesmwn apoteloun proin dikwn mou empeiriwn. oso gia ta diarkeias, as mou epitrapei pros to paron na mhn ek8esw thn phgh ths plhroforias mou.den einai prepon. oso gia thn anagaiothta tou panellhnioy sthn a8yhna 8a sumfwnhsw. de ginetai omws na zhtas nte kai kala egrafh gia na dwseis ena eisithrio me ton akrathto(!!), eidika apo th stigmh pou to mono pou kaneis einai na eksuphrethseis ena sunagwnisth-paoktsh wste na mhn trexei teleutaia stigmh sta liosia gia na to parei!! ELEOS PIA!! ti pio logiko na paw apo ton peiraia pou menw sthn a8hna na parw eisithrio? anagasthka telika (mazi me 2 filous paoktshdes) na paw apo tis 5 sto ghpedo toy akrathtou gia na parw eisithrio, enw 8a mporousame na exoume dieukolun8ei afantasta,eidika ontas melh allou sundesmou (vorioi-uk). telos pantwn...
Twra gia thn katastash sthn opoia vrsikontai polloi sundesmoi, mazi kai o panellhnios, de 8elw na epekta8w.oloi gnwrizoume oti oi perissoteroi kapoies wres metatrepontai se tekedes...
An eimai kapou la8os h' adikos peite na to suzhthsoume.

[PARVAS4]

YG2: Exw ena oneiro: ENAN KAI MONADIKO SYNDESMO , S.f. PAOK 8essalonikhs , ma ti einai ayta pou lew apapapapa ksypna Basilh giati 8a peseis ap'to krebati....

 

kala 8a kanate na mimh8eite ta skoulhkia kai ta xanoumia pou mas exoun afhsei aiwnes pisw sto syndesmiako kinhma.

Ολόκληρο το post μου εδώ-> http://www.paokworld.com/paokworldboard/index.php?topic=1356.50

[Tom_Araya]

Loipon, h 8esalonikh ayth th stigmh einai h 2h megalyterh polh ths ellados, me ply8ismo kapou sto myrio kai me megalh ektash. To na yparxei enas mono syndesmos se mia tetoia polh einai praktika adynato. Dhladh an aftos o ypoti8emenos syndesmos ypirxe as poume sto kentro, o katoikos eyosmou p.x. 'h kalamarias k.o.k. pws 8a mporouse na einai energo melos? Twra an ennoeis oloi oi syndesmoi enwmenoi kai me koinh gramh, ekei eimai 1000% mazi sou. Kai epeidh psiloksefeygoume apo to 8ema, egw apla na pw oti h istoria den grafetai apo anakoinwseis, thlefwnikes paremvaseis kai ta resta. H istoria grafetai stous dromous.

[Δικέφαλος]

αυτό το θέμα είναι ένα από τα πλέον κλασσικά... "Ένας και μοναδικός" ή "Δημοκρατία και πολυφωνία" στους συνδέσμους μας. Πιστεύω ότι στο συγκεκριμένο ερώτημα οι ΠΑΟΚτσήδες είναι μοιρασμένοι 50-50...

[Conan4]

jiati re paidia..pou einai to provlima?
Tha exoume ena mejalo syndesmo sti 8essaloniki me pollous yposyndesmous all over the world (se styl ypokatastimata).

Tha eixame alli dynamiki...se olous tous tomeis...apo assesouar mexri eisitiria...pantou kalyteres times...ase pou tha stekotan kai i dioikisi souza, otan tha vjazame apofaseis (oxi anakoinwseis  )

Emeis jia paradeijma sto Monaxo leitourjoume etsi ws Thira4 Monaxou. Oi kartes melous p.x einai apo ti 8yra4, opos kai oi sfrajides kai kai kai...

loipon ,where is the problem?

[arrwstos4]

syndesmoi enwtheite reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.toso dyskolo einai?enwtheite na doume kana opadikh asprh mera.erxetai o kathe flwrolaos kai mas pairnei se fwnh sthn toumpa. PAOK oloi eimaste gi'ayto enwtheite...

[anestis]

εγω προτεινω 3 συνδεσμους και καλους στη θεσσαλονικη.
να ειναι στην ανατολικη, δυτικη και κεντρικη θεσσαλονικη.
οραματιζομαι ο καθε ενας να ειναι ενας πολυχωρος, οπου
θα εχει ενα μερος με ηλεκτρονικα παιχνιδια οπου θα μαζευεται και η
πιτσιρικαρια ή θα ερχεται και ο πατερας με το παιδι του.
ενα μερος στυλ καφετεριας με οθονες να βλεπουμε οτιδηποτε ματς, οχι μονο του ΠΑΟΚ
και θα μενουνε τα λεφτα σε μας.
ετσι γλυτωνουμε πολλα λεφτα απο τα πολλα ενοικια και συσπειρωνεται
ο κοσμος του ΠΑΟΚ.
οσο για τα ονοματα Σ.Φ. ΠΑΟΚ ΔΥΤΙΚΗΣ ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΗΣ
Σ.Φ. ΠΑΟΚ ΑΝΑΤΟΛΙΚΗΣ ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΗΣ και
Σ.Φ. ΠΑΟΚ ΚΕΝΤΡΙΚΗΣ ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΗΣ

[agraf]

Prosopika eimai opathos ton aneksartiton sinthesmon an kai eimai melos tis G4-Monahou (thilathi parartimatos) sti Germania. Einai megalo pragma na kinoumaste san mia ontotita alla kapos thiktatoriko. Pantos an einai na ginei as ginei organomena, isos einai se kalo. Kai pantos ohi apo ton maskoforo, eleos...

[giannis80]

Ma einai logiko,glitonoun polla eksoda etsi.Alla,tha iparxoun antidraseis os pros to kleisimo istorikwn sindesmwn(G4,Neapoli).Tha poun oi sindesmites tis 4,den ginete na kleisei o istorikoteros sindesmos ktl.Kala,sto onoma tora den tha kolisoume,autos tis kentrikis thes/nikis mporei na meinei i 4,stin ditiki i neapoli kai anatolika oi makedones as poume.Ki ego eimai iper tou na exoume 3-4 sindesmous alla dinatous.

[anestis]

πρεπει να γινει οργανωμενα και σοβαρα και
πανω απο ολα να μην εχει ο καθε επικεφαλης
συνδεσμου ηγετικες βλεψεις και αξιωματα..

[LoGotHeTiS]

H enopoiisi prepei na ginei mono oso afora tin kerkida stin toumpa k pouthena allou..

[BARON 4]

Aderfia

den xreiazomaste enopoihseis kai ypersyndesmous kai kourafexala-mikroi kai eyeligtoi phrhnes se ka8e polh se ka8e xwrio se ka8e xwra ayto einai to mystiko

synenohsh gia kinhseis me maziko xarakthra ( ekdromes- pories diamartiries-laikh bash ) anexartitos sthn poreia tou o ka8e pyrhnas (  pano-eidoi gia poulhma- site)

o syndesmos CLUB FRANKFURT den prokeitai pantos na ensomato8ei POU8ENA   alla 8a akolou8hsh mia politikh kalyteron dynaton sxesewn
me tous syndesmous germanias stuttgart munich hannover .... opoion xexnw: 8a sas pleisiasoume etsi ki allios olous
kai sthn ellada   lemmy kordelio ptolemaida athens kavala kai kai kai pantou 8a xtypisoume porta

allhloboh8eia kai ekmetaleysh ton meswn :internet mobiles isws kapote radiofwno thleorash kai diaprosopikes sxeseis anamesa se meloi diaforetikwn syndesmon


OXI SE APROSOPES YPERORGANWSEIS exoun syn ta plhn einai polla kai akrws epikindyna GIA THN SHNOXH TOU LAOU lege me original, skouliki klp