("Ουράνιο Τόξο" ,σκοπιανές & βουλγαρικές μειονότητες στην Μακεδονία , Ανθελληνική προπαγάνδα ακροδεξιών-σκοπιανών)

[Capricorn]

  Einai enas laos toso pros ta dexia pou einai pragmatika KOMIKOTRAGIKO pos kapoioi dithen aristeroi stin Ellada ohi mono tous anehontai alla tous upostirizoun!!!

Enw einai ligotero asteio na tsakwnontai oi ntopoioi akrodeksioi me tous antistoixous skopianous.....
An me to "aristerous" ennoeis kke-syn-pasok tote sumfwnw kai gw mazi sou

[skyclad4]

Th fash me to onoma ksexaste thn oloi, kai eidika osoi zhte ellada pou mallon den katalabate to mege8os tou problhmatos. Oi tou ekswterikou kseroun oti to onoma exei xa8ei edw kai pollaaaaa xronia. Oloklhros o planhths makedonia tous leei. Oroi opws 'fyrom' kai 'skopia' (oi opoioi metaksu mas einai kai teleiws hli8ioi) mono sthn ellada xrhsimopoiountai. Na pate na ta peite s'autous pou psifhzete, oxi stous skopianous. Autoi th doulia tous kanoune, edw kai 60 xronia oi ekei arxontes tous lene pws h perioxh tous legetai makedonia. Ante twra esu na tous peis oti den einai etsi. Ta sogia pou dhmiourghsan auto to problhma (oi karamanlhdes, oi papandreou kai oi mhtsotakides) akoma ekei einai kai sas kubernane kai 8a kubernane kai ta paidia sas kai ta eggonia sas. Na pate na tous ta peite! Egw epeidh de mporw na tous trww sth mapa efuga.

[Athinaios--4]

Apolytos sostos o scyclad! Etsi akrivos einai ta pragmata. Den eipame oti ftaine oi idioi oi skopianoi. Autoi kala kanoun kai zitame parapano. To thema einai oti meta apo xronia tha kanoume oloi mas paidia. Tote loipon to vivlio tis istorias tha tous leei gia mia xora sta voreia mas pou legetai ''makedonia'' kai einai apogonoi tou M.Alexandrou.
Tote loipon kapoioi tha orgizomaste kai kapoioi tha lene ''Den peirazei. Etsi einai. Toulaxiston den eimaste akrodeksioi!!''
re paidia eseis pou synexizete na lete gia akrodeksia akoma tipota den exete katalavei?? Den sas peirazei to thema??
An sas peirazei gia peite mas ti prepei na ginei. Peite epitelous ti gnomi sas gia to thema. Stin ousia omos. I ousia den einai an antidroun oi xrysaugites.
Peite mas ti pisteuete oti prepei na kanei i Ellada

[savage republic]

Auto pou ksekinhse na ginetai edw kai kapoia xronia kai vlepw na mhn ta kataferoun oute twra na to kanoun. Auto nai, einai proklhsh (to vilio, epeidh einai epishmh kratikh politikh). Prin apo kapoia xronia eixe ksekinhsei loipon h prospa8eia gia koina viliva istorias, sto protupo galiias-germanias (autes oi diafores pou exoume emeis einai psixoula mprosta stis dikes tous file mou) gia ola ta Balkania. Mou fainetai (den eimai sigouros) oti h Tourkia eixe apoxwrhsei. Auto einai polu shmantiko 8ema. Giati opws esy diekdikeis to adiamfhsvhthto ths gnwmhs sou, uparxoun kai apo thn allh meria kapoioi pou uposthrizoun to diko tous adiamfhsvhthto ths alh8eias. Etsi einai. Oso gia to onoma, persina ksina stafulia. Edw ginontai kanonika eisagwges - eksagwges me auto to onoma apo kai pros Ellada kai mpainoun kai upografes tou ellhnikou kratous. Poio onoma? Ekei meinate? Alla einai twra ta shmantika. Opws to vivlio. Ekei einai to stoixhma pleon. Alla ti napoume ki emeis pou sto dhmotiko ta paidia anti gia istoria didaskontai mu8ologia kai thn onomazoune istoria.

[Athinaios--4]

Telika egoist nomizo oti de diaferoume kai poly stis appopseis mas!!
Aki vevaia ta vivlia einai to smantiko. Mono pou diafono na mpei i Ellada se mia tetoia kouventa. Se mia tetoia syzitisi tha xaseis polla. Sto kato kato otan gia tin Ellinikotita tis Makedonias yparxouna APODEIKSEIS pou den amfisvitountai tote emeis de mmporoume na diapragmateuomaste!!
Tora gia tis eisagoge-exagoges emena i protasi mou einai apli. To empargko eprepe na diatirithei. Emeis tous syntiroume!! Emeis tous zoume kai tous dynamonoume xoris na kerdizoume tipota!!!
An eixe diatirithei to empargko gia 15-16 xronia otra tha tous eixame anagkasei na dextoun ta autonoita. Den anagkazoume kapoion na dextes psemmata. Tin istoria prepei na dextoun.

[savage republic]

Den tous sunthroume ka8olou emeis. Eidika apo tote pou teleiwse o polemos sthn prwhn Yugoslavia, exoun kai thn epilogh tou Maurovouniou. Ase tis hdh kales emporikes sxeseis me Boulgaria (neo melos sthn E.E.!!!). Den einai etsi apla ta pragmata. To empargo htna h xeiroterh dunath epilogh, epeidh ena zhthma aplhs diapragmateushs metaksu kuvernhsewn pou htane, egine zhthma e8nikhs uperhfanias gi'autous. Den 8elei kopo (15 xronia), 8elei tropo (diplwmatia). Oso gia tis apodeikseis, ka8e enas exei kai tis dikes tou. Yparxei en kalo pou exei pei enas agglos skhno8eths (Peter Greenaway) gia thn istoria: Den uparxei istoria, uparxoun mono istorikoi.

Kalh sou mera, sorry pou thn kanw, alla den prolavainw!

[JOHNNYS-4-]

o monh eyropaikh xwra gyro apo ta skopia eimaste emeis.. oson afwra thn istoria diafwnw me ton egoist.. sta amerikanika panepistimia den didaskoun ton mega aleksandro? ti lene oti einai slabos? oi dianooymenoi ana ton kosmo ti ypostirizoun? o aristotelhs se pia glwssa milousa boulgarika slabika h ellhnika? gia mena einai apla ta pragmata.. apla emeis anti e8nikh politikh exoyme ton amerikano na mas dinei tis odhgies me ekprosopous thn ntora kai ton giwrgaki

[Athinaios--4]

Emeis tous syntiroume ypo tin ennoia oti eimaste i moni xora sta Valkania me statheri oikonomiki katastasi , me diexodo sti thalassa ( Giati de nomizo oti ithelan na anoixtoun stin Alvania gia na vgoun stin Adriatiki. ) , kai me statheri politiki skini. Giauto pisteuo oti opos kerdisame tote na vgei apo ti simaia tous to asteri tis Verginas (auto einai apodeiksi tis epekktatikis tous politikis mias kai xrisimopoioun symvola allon xoron) tha mporousame tote na lysoume to thema tou onomatos.
I diplomatia panta lynei ta pragmata. Otan omos apodedeigmena i Ellada stereitai igeton kai kalon diplomaton ta teleutaia 13 xronia tote ta metra eprepe na einai diaforetika.
Tin kano ki ego tora file ara synexeia alli fora.
Kali sou mera

[skyclad4]

o monh eyropaikh xwra gyro apo ta skopia eimaste emeis.. oson afwra thn istoria diafwnw me ton egoist.. sta amerikanika panepistimia den didaskoun ton mega aleksandro? ti lene oti einai slabos? oi dianooymenoi ana ton kosmo ti ypostirizoun? o aristotelhs se pia glwssa milousa boulgarika slabika h ellhnika? gia mena einai apla ta pragmata.. apla emeis anti e8nikh politikh exoyme ton amerikano na mas dinei tis odhgies me ekprosopous thn ntora kai ton giwrgaki

Kanenas istorikos, h an8rwpos pou gnwrizei 5 pramata parapanw de 8a sou pei oti oi makedones htan slaboi. Distuxws omws to 99% tou kosmou oute 5 pramata parapanw kseroun oute istorikoi einai. Ston agwna einai ka8e mera na bgaloun to pswmi tous. Otan h TV milaei gia xwra makedonia e sou leei kai o an8rwpakos etsi einai kai otan akouei gia arxaious kanei kai to la8os suneirmo. To la8os eipame einai 1000% twn ellhnwn politikwn. Odhgies sthn ekswterikh politikh opws les uparxoun apo amerikh kai EE. Autoi apo tote pou dialusane th giougoslabia 8elane hremhsoun ta pramata sthn perioxh oso to dunaton grhgorotera. Den nomizw na eixan megalh fagoura gia to an to meros 8a to lene makedonia h oxi. Apla na leiksei to 8ema grhgora 8elane. Otan h ellhnikh kubernhsh arxise tis malakies kai tis kafriles tupou empargo, enw oi skopianoi kinountan eksupna diplwmatika, sou lene ante kai gamhsou de 8a asxoloumaste me sena, kai me to dikio tous. To anagnwrisane san makedonia kai apo dw pan ki alloi.

[bouros]

sumfono apolita mazi sou skyclad4.to megaluetero provlima an to koitaxeis ligo einai oi roufianoi politikoi mas pou eite den hxeran na xeiristoun to thema opos eprepe eite ligo polu eixan to olo thema grammeno starxidia tous(an exoun).kai oi karamanlides kai oi papandreou kai oi mitsotakides kai ola ta lamogia tosa xronia pou pou koitousan mono pos na dhmiourghsoun kratos gyro apo thn athina.alla gia na mhn ta leme mono apo autin tin meria.....mhn bazete ap oxo kai tous dikous mas apos,dhmarxoi bouleutes nomarxes..Makedones diladoi pou siopousan (oxi oloi alla oi perisoteroi) mprosta se auto to thema

[Athinaios--4]

Ego symfono oti oi politikoi as ftaine alla epeidi i stasi tous itan malthaki.
Anti loipon san megali kai oikonomika statheri xora ton Valkanion na a''epivaloume'' ti gnomi mas me politika mesa emeis petousame aeto.
Anti loipon me ta lobby mas se olo ton kosmo kai se ola ta ksena panepistimia na kynigisoume to thema emeis legame ''de variesai aderfe ti na maas kanoun tora mia xoufta slavon''.

Giauto akrivos leo oti eprepe na diatirithei to empargko.

[bouros]

kai ego pisteuo Athinaios--4 oti eprepe na diatirithi to empargo pou tha eixe akomi megales oikonomikes epiptoseis se autous.afou adynatoume na antimetopisoume sta isia alla ktrati meso diplomatias as xisimopoiousame allous tropous(empargo)..to thema tora einai afou ta suzitame ola auta an mporoume na kanoume kati.oxi gia na allaxoume to onoma, kati pou einai polu arga gia na to kanoume alla na dhmioutgisoume ena klima ethnikis syneidhseis se olous tous ellines ths Makedonias oi opoioi vriskontai se lithargo ola auta ta xronia na tous deixoume ti sumvainei kai na tous anoixoume ta matia.

[Athinaios--4]

File mou gia mena mporoun akoma kai tora na ginoun pragmata. Ena apo auta einai i alitheia meso ton ksenon panepistimion. Yparxoun para polloi kathigites se ksena panepistimia.
Yparxoun ellinika lobby se oles tis xores tou kosmou pou mporoun na piesoun katastaseis (ekdiloseis , vivlia ktl)
Mporoume px na ftiaksoume tainia me ton M.Aleksandro giati den prepei na ksexname oti yparxoun anthropoi pou de diavazoun vivlia kai kseroun mono tin tileorasi kai to cinema. Mporei to ypourgeio politismou na voithisei se auto.
Theoro ilithia tin syzitisi peri gay M.Alexandrou ktl pou eginan gia tin prosfati tainia.
Na kanoume mporoue polla. Akoma kai tora stis syzitiseis gia to onoma me tous skopianous na piesoume perissotero.
Mporoume na piesoume tis ypoloipes europaikes xores episis.
De ksero giati den eimai diplomatis. Aples skepseis kano

[Melb4]

Nomizo oti kapoioi edo grafoun poli aorista. Mia merida apo emas kanoume kritiki stous skopianous kai tous Ellines politikous kai mia alli merida den borei kai oute kan prospathei na xefigei apo to aristero-dexio arkeitai sto na kanei kritiki stous dexious. Grafoume kati kai anti na paroume apantisi gia tin erotisi pairnoume apantisi gia tous akrodexious.

Loipon gia na ksero me poious milao...mia apantisi nai i ohi tipota allo stin epomeni erotisi:

otan vlepeis tous skopianous na apokaloun ton eauto tous makedones sas peirazei i ohi;

Poli apli erotisi. Ena nai i ohi.

[Athinaios--4]

Emena an ka nomizo oti einai fanero prin apantiso tha elega pos oxi apla me peirazei alla me trelainei!!!!

[bouros]

emena kathe fora pou akouo tous skopianous na lene oti einai makedones euxomai ekeini tin ora na afanizotan olokliri i gamimeni ratsa tous gia na teleioname mia kai kali..

y.s.gia na min parexigoumaste i afipnisi tis ethnikis syneideiseis den exei na kanei kamia sxesh me akrodexies ideologies.
episis san neo fan clun PAOK ''BLACKSHIRTS OF PLYMOUTH''skeftomaste stis blouzes pou tha kanoume se ligo kairo na typosoume sima makedonias me elliniki shmaia kai 3 me 4 logia apo kato.etsi tha exei apixisi i prospathia mas kai tha vlepoun kai oi xenoi toy exoterikou gia na mathenoun 2, 3 pragmata.giati na min paroume protovoulia oloi oi syndesmoi toy PAOK na kanoume to idio?fatazeste 1myrio PAOKtsides na perpatene kathimerina stoys dromous me autes tis bloyzes?einai mia kali,eykoli kai arketa praktikh antepithesi sthn propaganda ton skopianon.

[giorgos4]

Katala8os epsaxna na vrw kati allo sto youtube kai ksafnika epesa panw se ayta edw pou evala sto link.Egw den kserw na stelnw oute minimata outa kai na kanw videakia kai na ta vazw sthn selida tous gia na ta vlepoun oi POUTANAS GIOI OI SKOPIANOI,manges kanoniste kai osoi mporeite kante videakia kai valte te ekei mesa giati to kako exei paraginei me tous MPASTARDOUS !!!
 

[makis]

are file giorgo ti psaxneis na vreis auto to 8ema teliose ta eipame 1000 fores
edw evlepe simera stin ert word to eurovision gia tous mikrous oi skopianoi vgikan kai eipan 100 fores apo tin makedonia kai apo tin makedonia
dikoi mas vgikan kai eipan apo athina
auto tous endiaferoi mono oi athaioi na pernan kala kai gia to vorra  sta arxidia tous
edo se ligo 8a vgenoun kai 8a mas lene oi politikoi mas grafikous an milame gia to provlima tou onoma tous
mono oi tourkalades exoun arxidia kai kanoun oti 8eloun emeis me to stauro sto xeri toso xronia
kai akoma den kserw ti einai sosto na ginoume tourkoi oi na minoume oi malakes tis eurwpois alla vlepeis einai kai ta amerikanakia stin mesoi mia xoufta an8rwpoi kai na katapatane tin istoria xoris proigoumeno

[giorgos4]

Ti na peis me ayta ta LAMOGIA tous politikous pou exoume 8a traviksoume kai xeirwtera.

[elvetos]

Realistika ta pragmata exoun os exis
Sto exoteriko (Kentriki evropi) Makedones einai oi Slavomakedones
Emeis den iparxoume os Makedones
Akomi vevaia gnorizoun oi perissoteroi oti oi arxaioi Makedones theorousan tous eautous tous Ellines, alla ki auto mporoi na xexastei. 
Auto simainei oti xreiazetai sinechis enimerosi apo merous mas se olous
Ego pisteuo oti vasi tis logikis, de mporoume na tous arnithoume ena sintheto onoma "Slavomakedones" gia paradigma;
ki auto gia treis logous:

proton giati ki auti zoun pano apo xilia xronia sto geografiko xoro tis makedonias;

deuteron giati meta ton prosilitismo tou Tito geniountai, zoun kai pethainoun pia, edo kai 3 xronia,  me tin idea oti exoun riza kai onoma makedoniki, einai adinaton na tous allaxeis miala tora;

triton de mpouroume na pisoume tous xenous oti mono emeis eimaste oi Makedones afou autoi autoprosdiorizontai ws tetoioi edo kai 50 xronia; gia tous xenous pou den xeroun tis aidies tou Tito kai ti pa na pei Valkania kai poso simantiko einai enas Laos na lei oti exei megali istoria piso tou einai diskolo na antistathoun sti logiki: afou auto dilonoun, auto einai...

Me liga logia eki pou nomizame prin 15 xronia oti tha tous patisoume, tora pia tha parakalame emeis na xrisimopoioume  ton prosdiorismo Makedonia; Tragikooooooooooooooooooooooooo.