SYNODOS

[PAOK-GALATSI]

17.15: Σπάσιμο κάμερας τηλεοπτικού σταθμού Μέγκα.

17.30: Δύο καμένα Ι.Χ., σπάσιμο Τράπεζας Αλφα, εισόδου Κτηματικής Υπηρεσίας Ν. Θεσσαλονίκης, εισόδου πολυκατοικίας, καταστήματος «Θείος Βάνιας», καφετέριας.

18.00 - 18.40: Σπασίματα σε «Εβερεστ», «Τελεστέτ», σουπερμάρκετ «Μασούτης» επί της οδού Εγνατίας. Φθορές σε καταστήματα με είδη δώρων, ιατρικά, κοσμήματα, ρούχα, εκκλησιαστικά, σε ένα γραφείο ταξιδίων, ένα ψητοπωλείο, ένα ζαχαροπλαστείο. Μολότοφ στα «Μακ Ντόναλντς», στην Τράπεζα Πειραιώς, στο βιβλιοπωλείο «Μπίμπης», σε φαρμακείο, κατάστημα με ρούχα, στην ίδια οδό. Στην οδό Αγίας Σοφίας μολότοφ στο σουπερμάρκετ «Μασούτης» και στη «Eurobank». Σπασίματα στα υποκαταστήματα των «Goody's» και της Εμπορικής Τράπεζας. Μολότοφ στο κατάστημα της «Vodafone». Φθορές σε έξι μαγαζιά επί της οδού Μενελάου. Καταστροφή ΑΤΜ της «Novabank» στην Ερμού.




ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΟΤΥΠΙΑ - 23/06/2003

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kaneis den symfwnei me ta spasimata kai tis katastrofes "periousiwn" anthrwpwn pou den ftaine se tipota px:periptera klp klp!(prwsopika kalos ή kakos den diafwnw me spasimata se trapezes poluethnikes ).
se mia tetoia anampouboula kai sthn prospatheia na mhn syllhfthoun apo thn astynomia eginan auta ta spasimata!(kakos eginan to xanalew kai den ta dikaiologw).omws se mia tetoia poreia den symmetexoun mono anthrwpoi pou pistevoun sth syggekrimenh ideologia!"symmetexoun" kai kapoioi oi opoioi einai stalmenoi gia na katastrefoun amaxia periptera fagadika gia na epitrepoun sthn astynomia na drasei opws auth "krinei" kalutera!me xhmika xylo kai syllhpseis!se poses poreies yparxoun asfalites mesa sthn poreia??mporei na mhn hmoun sthn thessalonikh autes tis meres, omws auth thn "strathgikh" akolouthoun kai edw sthn athina!posoi exoun syllhfthei meta apo  poreia apo asfalites ?kai ti katastrofes exoun kanei "kapoioi" apo tis opoies "kapoioi" exyphretountai?den prepei na ta vazoume ola sto idio kazani!


den prospathw na peisw oti oi men ftaine kai oi alloi einai aggeloudia!alla prepei na lamvanoume olous tous paragontes ypopsin mas!

[lemmy]

Θα συμφωνησω απολυτα μαζι σου....

[ALEX]

paok-galatsi
tha simfoniso kai ego se genikes grames mazi sou.tha diafoniso sto oti ta episodia eginan  stin prospathia na aminthoun dioti tis lamarines tis anigan me tsekouri(ta ida ayta) kai dostou tis molotof opos episis eitan poli organomenoi aytoi pou itan gia na kanoun episodia kai mono.tora asfalites iparxoun se kathe poreia omos einai epikindino gia aytous na kanoun silipsi mesa stin poreia giati tin gamisan meta.
tora kati geniko peri porias ideologias den mou aresei to oti ola komatopoiountai kai kapioi meso ton poreion prospathoun na stratologisoun neous pou den gnorizoun kai pola pola.
oso gia tous mpatsous aytoi irthan me skopo na diroun na petaksoun dakrigona na tis figi to axti (kai ayto einai tekmiriomeno)

[PAOK_LAMIA]

File HANNEMAN.4,

Opws egrapse kai o PAOK-GALATSI, kaneis den symfwnei me to kapsimo twn magaziwn twn aplwn anthrwpwm alla isws tha eprepe na skeftomai ligo twn tropo me ton opoio leitourgoun oi mpatsoi kai twn tropo me ton opoio diwxetevetai h plhroforia kai h eikona apo tous dhmosiokafrous kai ta afentika tous sthn platia maza tou ell laou pou ws gnhsio kopadi mosxariwn ypo lovotomh thn dexetai afiltraristh.

Katarxin opoios exei asxolhthei kai exei shmetasxei kata to elaxisto se pories xerei kala ton rolo pou paizoun oi asfalites se aftes. Oloi xeroume oti h asfaleia vazei atoma sthn pories ta opoia otan exeis dipla sou 3 kai 4 kai 5.000 kosmo den einai efkolo na ta diakrineis kai na ta pomonwseis po thn arxh.Otan ta apomonoseis h zhmia exei hdh ginei alla toula xiston exeis thn ikanopoihsh na tous prosfereis to aparaithto "masaz".Den menoun apeksw vevaia kai ta apla malakisthria-xouligkania pou den exoun kamia sxesh me to khnima kai pou pane apla gia na spasoun xwris na xeroun ti spane. Kai afth thn periptwsh h diapistwsh ginetai otan pleon einai arga. Idiaitera apo afth thn kathgoria malakhsthriwn sthn Toumba exoume af8ona.

Oson afora to paixnidi tis eikonas, osoi exoun diavasei oi osoi exoun apla thn ikanothta na krinoun tis periptoseis propagandas kai paraplhroforhshs, profanws tha anaroth8hkan
-giati apo ola ta episodia provlh8hkan kata koron mono oi eikones twn atyxwn katasthmatarxwn kai den akouste lexh gia ti trapezes-tis alysiden kinhths thl kai eidika gia ta McD??? Ennoeitai pws den eprepe na perasei oute kata dianoia sthn anyparkth syneidhdsh tou Ellhna-mosxariou h yponoia oti oi sygkekrimenoi stoxoi isws na eixan koinwniko-politiko periexomeno

-Giati eidika oson afora thn periptwsh tou bibliopoleiou pou kahke, to opoio den dexuhke epi8esh apla eixe thn atyxia na vrisketai dipla sta McD, oi mpatsoi anw elegxan apo thn arxh olh thn perioxh den afhnan EXAKRIVOMENA epi 45 lepta na perasoun ta pyrosvestika?

-giati sta x8esina episodia exw apo ta dikasthria kai enw h sygkentrwsh symparastashs htan ekei apo tis 12 to meshmeri to entelws anaitio ntou apo ta stroumfakia egine 8+ otan ola ta kanalia eixan live me ta dikasthria?Gia na deixoun vevaia oi skatokefaloi oti kanoun kala thn douleia tous kai oti axizoun tis 3kai60 pou pernoun.

GENIKA tha ithela na pw pws opoios exei sxesh me to podosfairo kai  exei paei ghpedo-ekdromes xerei to ypoulo tropo pou leitourgoun oi mpatsoi kai o opoios efarmozetai se oles tisa ekfanseis ths kathimerinothtas.

Oson afora file  HANNEMAN.4 afto pou les oti tous hgetes kaneis den tous peirazei pote, kapoios tous apeilouse epi 27 xronia alla twra den tous apeilei.Sigoura pali den tous apeiloun oi pories me ta synthimatakia apo organwseis opws to koin forum oi opoies primodotountai epishma apo to kratos me fragka, kataskhnwseis klpklp. Ola afta ginontai kai gia to polemo twn entypwsews, gia na vgainei to Pasok ws komma me koinwnikes evais8hsies to opoio afogkrazetai thn fwnh twn lawn kai alles tetoies malakies.
Sigoura tellos den tous apeiloun ta: "EEEEE___OOOOOO____emeis tha stamathsoume ton polemo afto" pou fanazan oi ekatondades xiliades twn antipolemikwn diadhlwsewn.Na eisai sigouros pws kai ston epomeno polemo pali to idio tha fwnazoume,kai sto epomeno,kai ston epomeno, mexris otou o polemos f8asei sto spiti mas kai to mono pou 8a prolavoume na poume tha einai OOOUUUPS!!!!!

Kai na eisai sigouros oti otan olh h Ellada eixe perisy to kalokairi metatrapei se ena kratos xafiedwn kai roufianwn (kyriarxo stoixeia ths ellhnikhs istorias apo arxaitatwn xronwn), kai oloi pezan to kynhgi tou xamenou koufontina_drakoumel, sigoura den tou apeilei kaneis.Ekei tha einai mia zwh kai emeis tha tous kanoume aera sta arxidia.

[Tom_Araya]

Mpainw ston peirasmo na grapsw tin apopsi mou gia ta epeisodia, kindyneuontas na faw agrio brisidi apo merikous.
Loipon, egw pisteyw oti aftoi pou kanan tis zimies itan merikoi flwroi- oi opoioi amfibalw an ikseran giati ginotan oi diafores poreies sti thesaloniki- pou kanan oti kanan epeidi i astinomia den ithele na dialysei tis diadilwseis -min geliomaste, an oi mpatsoi ithelan mporousan na to kanoun se xrono dt, alla mallon den eixan tetoies entoles- kai telika gyrisan sto spitaki tous opou i mama tous tous eixe etoima soutzoukakia, min tyxon kai aytoi pinasoun. Parte to xampari, aytoi pou kai kala 8eloun na legontai anarxikoi, aytoi pou 8eloun na legontai kai kala epanastates den ftourane mia. Kai stin praksi den efarmozoun tpt apo osa ypostirizoun 8ewritika. Oi knites p.x. sto panepistimio iwanninwn, einai komounistes stin ideologia, alla deksioi stin tsepi tous, einai de toso aneksartitoi pou zoun ws aiwnioi foitites xari stous paterades tous. Oson afora tous anarxikous, kat'arxas na pw oti to 99,9% apo aytous den gnwrizei tipota peri anarxias ws politeyma, kai epipleon poly tha ithela na dw -afou einai toso anti8etoi stin yparksi atomikis periousias- pws 8a antidrousan an kapoios tous ekaige to spiti, i mallon an kapoios kaigontas to katastima tis polyethnikis dipla apo to spiti tous ebale fwtia kai sto spiti tous. Kai stin teliki, amayrwnetai kai i eikona twn -elaxistwn- pou pigan sti thesaloniki me agna kinitra, kai oxi aplws gia fasaries. Kai telika aftoi oi ligoi katantoun grafikoi...

[lemmy]

File Slayer,δε διαφωνει κανει οτι  υπαρχουν μλκς,οπως και ασφαλιτες στις πορειες.Παντως,κανεις δε πηγε ηθελημενα να καψει το σπιτι.Μεσα στην αναπουμπουλα συνεβησαν ολα αυτα.

[PAOK-GALATSI]

alex ta prwta epeisodia ginan se trapezes poluethnikes mac donalds,goodys, etaireies kinhths thlefwnias kai loipa!me thn genikeush twn epeisodiwn eginan ta diafora alla.


twra oi asfalites den tha desoun kapoiwn mesa sthn poreia  alla sto treximo sta gyrw stena! ekei pou tha deis enan typo kai kala frikio na se denei!den xereis apo pou tha sou erthei se ekeines tis stigmes apla elpizeis na eisai tyxeros!apla mesa sthn poreia "kovoun fatses"

file PAOK_LAMIA tha symfwnhsw mazi sou gia ta kanalia kai tous dhmosiografous,me monh diafora den tha tous valo olous sto idio kalathi!yparxei kai mia mikrh-elaxisth meiopsifia pou kanei KAPWS kalutera thn douleia ths!
gia paradeigma otan akouw tous xatzhnikolaou-pretenderh (pou thewrountai "kalh" kai kala )na lene oti autoi pou phgan stis poreies kapoioi tous xrhmatodotoun gia na kanoun epeisodia!!! e tote thewrw APOLYTWS DIKAIOLOGHMENA AUTA POU KANOUN SE "DHMOSIOGRAFOUS" KAI SE OTHOUN NA ANTIDRAS KAI ESY ETSI SE AUTOUS.(parepiptwntos milousan gia thn antiratsistikh poreia thn prwth mera ,an den kanw lathos,pou eixe polu kosmo kai den egine TIPOTA!)

exeresh gia mena apotelese o markelos apo thn net!pou oute yperevale,milhse gia genikes syneleyseis kai genika evgaze mia "eikona" enos anthrwpou pou thn epsaxe ligaki toulaxiston!!den evgaze pragmata apo to myalo tou oute evlepe fantasmata!toulaxiston etsi fanhke se mena!krathse mia stash oudeterh!xwris tis ypervoles "vomvardismenh polh" "ordes varvarwn" tis klassikes ekfraseis twn dhthen dhmosiografwn!!


twra sxetika me ta ypoloipa me kalupteis apoluta

mou thymises kai persy pou kathe asxetos paparas xafiedoroufianos(den htan mono dhmosiografoi) evgene kai milage gia thn 17N kai thntromokratia.h mish ellada eixe perasei apo ta kanalia kai oloi tous gnwrizan!!!!e re gelia!!
eytyxismenh ellhnikh "thleorash"

[PAOK-GALATSI]

tom-araya den tha se vrisei kaneis epeidh exeis antitheth apopsh!an eimastan oloi to idio den tha eimastan athrwpoi alla provata!

eipame ti symvainei stis poreies!mporei kapoioi apo autous na htan "flwroi" opws les esy malakes opws leei o PAOK_LAMIA alla sigoura den antiprosopeuoun olous autous pou phgan stis poreies!toses xiliades apo ola ta mplok oloi axestoi flwroi kai den xeroun mia einai??!!!den nomizw!einai mia genikeush auto pou kaneis kai kalo einai na apofevgoume tis genikeuseis!!

[Tom_Araya]

Profanws kai o xaraktirismos pou ekana den afora olous alla ena -simantiko nomizw- pososto. Ontws einai la8os oi genikeuseis, kai la8os mou pou den tis apefyga sto post. Kai o xaraktirismos "flwros" afora ekeina ta atoma ta opoia kanoun zimies kai genikotera ekfrazoun to 8ymo se pragmata apsyxa, i akoma nomizoun oti otan petan molotof sta mat einai kapoioi, enw otan exoun na antimetwpisoun kapoion "face-to-face" ekei kanoun tin papia. Genika mou tin spaei na blepw enan na brizei p.x. tous astinomikous, alla otan aftoi kanoun ntou, tote na trexei san lagos,mou tin spaei otan kapoios sta logia einai prwtos, alla stin praksi... tipota. Entaksei 8a pei kapoios, den einai oti eykolotero na antimetopiseis kapoion pou einai eksoplismenos san astakos,opws exoun ginei oi astynomikoi. Egw 8a pw oti an kapoios kanei ensyneidita oti kanei, tote einai diatetheimenos na martyrisei-oxi aplws na faei ksylo, na martyrisei- prokeimenou na proaspisei ta pisteyw tou. To problima omws einai oti osoi kanoun tis zimies tis kanoun giati to thewroun magia, oxi gia na diamartyri8oun. Kai dystyxws den yparxei kaneis apo tous ypoloipous diadilwtes na tous apomwnwsei kai na tous balei tin p**tsa sto stoma, giati mono etsi antimetwpizeis tetoia atoma pisteyw.
Pantws genika einai kalo na ginontai diadilwseis, arkei oi diadilwtes na gnwrizoun giati katebikan stous dromous...

[ALEX]

apo oti vlepo simfonoume pano kato kai kata poli megalo pososto malista.gia tous dimosiografous den ksero ti eipan giati den tous akousa kai den xreiastike dioti eimoun ekei.
tom araya simfono gia tous knites me deksia tsepi apauksano gia tis diadiloseis omos aytos pou paei na kserei gia pio logo pai.den ksero vevaia an einai floroi autoi pou ekanan ta epoisodia ayto pou eida pantos eitan oti paraitan organomenoi kai orismenoi magazia mallon itan prosxediasmeno na ta rimaksoun tora ta alla.....
gia dieykrinisi oi protes manoures ksekinisan stin odo kautantzoglou konta stin ekthesi

[PAOK-GALATSI]

file alex paroti den hmoun sthn poreia trapezes mac donalds kai loipa htan ta organomena opws les kai auta pou xtyphthika prwta!!!!meta ta spasimata auta kai ta prwta dakrygona  akolouthisan kai ta ypoloipa!

[arafat4]

ETSI EINAI OPWS TA LEEI O PAOK GALATSI.etsi eginan.


psifiste mpatsok gia perissoteroys xaki matatzides...

[HANNEMAN.4]

As frontisoyme-oloi mas-na kratame tis koyventes kai ta post mas MAKRIA apo thn politikh (dhlwsh filoy:"pshfiste mpatsok gia perissoteroys xaki matatzides").Apla,giati pisteyw,den odhgoyn poythena.To thema einai na diwksoyme ayton poy kaphleyetai ta oneira mas GIA TON PAOK MAS.Pantws,mesw internet,ayto de tha to kataferoyme pote. P.A.O.K. PANTOY.

[lemmy]

psifiste mpatsok gia perissoteroys xaki matatzides...

XAXAXAXA,POLY KALO

[lemmy]

As frontisoyme-oloi mas-na kratame tis koyventes kai ta post mas MAKRIA apo thn politikh (dhlwsh filoy:"pshfiste mpatsok gia perissoteroys xaki matatzides").Apla,giati pisteyw,den odhgoyn poythena.To thema einai na diwksoyme ayton poy kaphleyetai ta oneira mas GIA TON PAOK MAS.Pantws,mesw internet,ayto de tha to kataferoyme pote. P.A.O.K. PANTOY.

Φιλε,περα απο τον Παοκ,υπαρχει κατι σημαντικοτερο:η ζωη μας.Και αυτα τα πραματα μας αφορουν ολους.Οποτε ειναι λογικο να συζηταμε (και) τετοια πραματα.Αλλωστε το topic ειναι για τη συνοδο....

[GENTLESOS]

me thimisate kapies katastaseis pou sto sxolio kapia pedia kanane apoxes katalipseis kai otan tous rotousane giati tin kanenete den kserane na apantisoun.
to mono pou tous endiefere itane na xasoune mathima
etsi kai aytoi oi gnostoi agnostoi pou katevenoun mono kai mono gia na spasoun kai na rimaksoun.
Oso gia tous mpatsous kaka ta psemata xreiazonte kai aytoi afou emeis oi idioi den mporoume na apomonosoume aytoys pou theloun na simetexoun kai aytous pou simetexoun is varos ton proigoumenon.

[ALEX]

glentesos
simfono se ola mono thelo na simpliroso kati gia tous mpatsous oi opoioi xreiazontai kai ginontai pio xrisimoi otan den ginete kataxrisi eksousias

[lemmy]

Παντως εχει πλακα.Θελετε αστυνομικους,αλλα τους αποκαλειτε μπατσους.Xm.....Ωραια,ας γινουμε "1984"

[ALEX]

lemmy kai oi mpatsoi xreiazontai kai oi pirosvestes kai o stratos kai ola xreiazontai kai einai mesa stin zoi gia na kratioyntai oi isoropoies metaksi ton anthropon xoris na ginontai enoxlitikoi diladi ayto pou egine to 4imero se kathe steno kai mia dimoiria itan asximo opos kai na exei omos itan anageo kako gia tin astinomeusi tis polis asxeta an oi mpatsoi irthan me mono skopo na riksoun fapes ayto einai ston xaraktira tou kathenos kai kaneis den mporei na to prosdiorisei ayto.
tora ena ipothetiko erotima leme oti den iparxei dikaiosini den iparxoun mpatsoi kai sizitame metaksi mas ego i esi exoume neura kai diafonoume kai vgazo ego i esi tin koumpoura kai dostou etsi einai kalitera i nomizeis oti stin legomenoi apoliti anarxia ola tha einai armonika?
ola xreiazontai me metro kai na min ksepernaei ta oria oute ego thelo enan mpatso kato apo to spiti mou oute kaneis einai ola mia isoropia pou an kseperastei arxizoun oi manoures.

[lemmy]

Φιλε Alex,αν υπηρχε η απολυτη Αναρχια,αναγκαστικα,εκτος των αλλων,θα υπηρχε και ισοτητα και σεβασμος στον συναθρωπο.Οποτε δε θα χρειαζοντουσαν κατασταλτικες δυναμεις.