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petrovgr

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Alitheia ti eixe grapsei to skouliki? Gia Tourkous kai tetoia?

Giati apo oti katalava ta svisate  8)

An katalavoun tin propaganda pou ginetai apo kapoious pou thewroun tin ellinikotita mas amfisvitisimi den kserw an tha anathewrisoun ayta ta toulaxiston poustika synthimata.YParxoun oxi mono apopseis,alla kai site opou ginetai KA-NO-NI-KH PROPAGANDA

1)gia tin mi ellinikotita tis makedonias
2)gia tin mi ellinikotita Vlaxwn-pontiwn kai allwn fylwn
3)Gia tin dithen anyparkti genoktonia tis M.Asias

kai polla alla.Molis sygkentrwsw ti lista tha ta kanw post
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petrovgr

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Na loipon kapoia site sta opoia mporeite na diavasete osoi thelete oles tis morfes propagandas pou mporei na ypostei enas Ellhnas.Giati wraio einai na ksefeygoume tis akraiotites,alla otan alloi katafeygoun s'aytes prepei na to kseroume.Eytyxws to diadiktyo einai ena pagkosmio xwrio kai ayta mporei na ta mathei o kathenas


http://www.geocities.com/bulgarmak/mainpage.htm

To prwto kai isws to pio emetiko apo ta site,kai kala ''proaspizei ta anthrwpina dikaiwmata sti makedonia'' alla stin ousia kanei ethniki propaganda,prospathwntas na apodeiksei oti h makedonia einai voulgariki.Episis,stis ypoenotites tou site (aksizei na riksete mia matia) amfisvitei thn ellinikotita twn ellhnwn vlaxwn,twn ellinopontiwn kai twn mikrasiatwn,allote xrisimopoiwntas PSEYTIKES kai allote PARAPOIHMENES phges.O typos pou to sxediase zei sthn ellada,kai apo oti vlepete gnwrizei kai arketa kala ta ellinika.

http://www.turan.tc/pontusdosyasi/

Ena site tourkiko pou ypostirizei oti ousiastika Eykseinos Pontos den ypirkse! Nai kala akousate! Osa egrafan o Arrianos,o Stravwn kai oi arxaioi istorikoi htan psemmata! proseggisa to keimeno me ti voitheia enos filou tourkologou,opoioi exoun kapoia epafi me ti glwssa tha me katalavoun

http://historyofmacedonia.org/

Thelete na mathete gia tin istoria tis Makedonias??? vrikate to site pou sas tairiazei.TI-PO-TA loipon de sxetizei th Makedonia me ton elliniko politismo nai kala akousate.Etsi leei ayto to apisteyto site pou allote stirizetai se PLIRWMENES meletes tou kratous tis ''makedonias'' gia na apodeiksei ta anapodeikta kai allote katafeygei se laspologies... me epistimoniko kyros panta...
(aggliko)

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/captain-norman.htm

Ligh akomi tourkiki propaganda... Ayti ti fora apenandi sto lao twn armeniwn... h ADIAMFISBHTHTH genoktonia twn armeniwn, gia tin opoia to armeniko kratos exei syrei to tourkiko sta DIETHNI DIKASTIRIA kai exei KERDISEI tin diki kai ti diethni anagnwrisi tis genoktonias (kati to opoio den dianoeitai vevaia h elliniki,sta plaisia tis diplwmatias panta re paidia),h genoktonia ayti loipon AMFISBHTEITAI apo enan Tourko kai malista kathigiti panepistimiou! Alitheia pou to pire to diplwma?(aggliko)


Diavaste ta paokares mou giati osa symvainoun ston kosmo den perigrafontai...
Alloiwnontai istories,svinontai laoi,allazoun tis taytotites mas pisw apo tin plati mas.Ola ayta me ti diki mas anoxi


petrovgr

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Prosekste aytin tin ypoenotita tou ''makedonikou'' site,opou sthrizomeno se ''egkrites'' meletes,taytizei ta xrwmosomata twn skopianwn me twn arxaiwn makedonwn!!!

Profanws tha exoun erthei sti thessaloniki na paroun dna apo ta kokkala tou Fillipou tou B giati alliws den eksigeitai! Symfwna loipon me ti meleti ayti oi ellines sygkeneyoun fyletika me ............... TOUS AITHIOPES!!!

KAI TI SXESI EXEI POU DEN EIMASTE MAYROI RE???

EKEI KOLLATE??? EDW AYTOI VGIKAN MAKEDONES!

http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/ConciseMacedonia/AncientGenes.html

kostas4

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xerete ti mou tin spaei perissotero?oti oi ellinikes kiverniseis ta gnwrizoun auta kai den kanoun tipota.

thimaste pou perisi eixe kanei mia kinisi o pswmiadis kai mazeue ypografes mesw internet?xerei kanei to site kai ti egine telika?ton pswmiadi se kati tetoia ton paw,trexei poly.eixa vgalei kai anakoinwsi gia tin apoxwrisi tou stratou apo ta voreia synora kai gia tin apofasi na min steiloun stratiotika tmimata stin parelasi tis 25is martiou.

ksts

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Opoios thelei na mathei ti tha pei propaganda as paei
sto site tis tourkikis kivernisis:
Latinizontes tourkoi thewrountai oi vlaxoi!!!
Ta psemata twn Pontiwn!!!
Tourkiki meionotita stin Ellada!!!
Makedoniki meionotita stin Ellada!!!
Alvaniki meionotita stin Ellada!!!
Kai fisika se prwto plano ta arxaia tis Effesou.

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¸÷ïõìå óõíéèßóåé íá ó÷ïëéÜæïõìå áðü áõôÞí åäþ ôçí åíüôçôá éóôïóåëßäåò ðïõ óõíÞèùò öôéÜ÷íåé êÜðïéïò êïìðëåîéêüò ìå óêïðü íá ìåéþóåé ôçí éóôïñéêÞ ðïñåßá êáé ôçí ðñïóöïñÜ ôïõ Åëëçíéóìïý. Äõóôõ÷þò óôçí óõãêåêñéìÝíç ðåñßðôùóç ç êáôÜóôáóç äåí åßíáé áõôÞ...

ÌéëÜìå ãéá ôçí ÅÐÉÓÇÌÇ éóôïóåëßäá ôïõ ÔÅ×ÍÉÊÏÕ ÐÁÍÅÐÉÓÔÇÌÉÏÕ ÔÇÓ ÌÁÕÑÇÓ ÈÁËÁÓÓÁÓ üðïõ óå áöéÝñùìá ãéá ôçí ðüëç êáé ôçí éóôïñßá ôçò, ãñÜöïíôáé ôá åîÞò áðßóôåõôá:

http://www.ktu.edu.tr/trabzon/history.html


Ãéá üóïõò üìùò âáñéïýíôáé íá äéáâÜæïõí áããëéêÜ Þ äåí îÝñïõí áñêåôÜ êáëÜ þóôå íá ìåôáöñÜóïõí, áò äïýìå êÜðïéá áðü ôá óçìåßá ôïõ áöéåñþìáôïò áõôïý

Trabzon, historically and socio-culturally being the most important centre of Eastern Black Sea Region, has a history of approximately 5000 years, though its exact date of foundation is unknown

Éóôïñßá 5.000 åôþí öÝñåôáé íá Ý÷åé ç Ôñáðåæïýíôá. Åìåßò ãéáôß îÝñïõìå üôé éäñýèõêå ôï 756ð.×. áðü Óéíùðåßò; Óôçí ðñïóðÜèåéÜ ôïõò íá ìåéþóïõí ôçí óçìáóßá ôùí ÅëëÞíùí, áëëïéþíïõí óêüðéìá ôçí éóôïñßá áíáöåñüìåíïé ðñïöáíþò óôçí åðïéêéóôéêÞ êáôÜóôáóç ôçò åõñýôåñçò ðåñéï÷Þò. Ðáëáéïëéèéêïß ïéêéóìïß õðÞñ÷áí ðáíôïý, ÷ùñßò íá áðïäåéêíýåé áõôü êÜôé ôï éäéáßôåñï.

In 7th century BC, the Miletans who came to the shores of Black Sea for trade purposes colonised some areas from Sinop eastwards

Ïé ÌéëÞóéïé óáöþò êáé äåí Ýñ÷ïíôáí ìüíï ãéá åìðïñéêïýò óêïðïýò. Áõôü áðïäåéêíýåôáé âáóéêÜ áðü ôç ìüíéìç åãêáôÜóôáóç. ¼ôáí êÜíåéò åìðüñéï êÜðïõ, äå óçìáßíåé ðùò êÜèåóáé åêåß ãéá üëç óïõ ôç æùÞ! Áðüäåéîç (êáé ìÜëéóôá óýã÷ñïíç) ïé Öïßíéêåò, ðïõ äåí ßäñõóáí ðüëåéò üðïõ ðÞãáéíáí ãéá íá åìðïñåõôïýí.Ïé Ôïýñêïé "åðéóôÞìïíåò" ìÜëëïí áãíïïýí êÜôé ðïõ Ýëáâå ÷þñá åêåßíá ôá ÷ñüíéá, êáé ëåãüôáí Â' Åëëçíéêüò áðïéêéóìüò.

They founded one of these colonies in Trabzon, which they had invaded

(!!!) Å×ÔÉÓÁÍ ÌÉÁ ÁÐÏ ÔÉÓ ÁÐÏÉÊÉÅÓ ÔÏÕÓ ÓÔÇÍ ÔÑÁÐÅÆÏÕÍÔÁ, ÓÔÇÍ ÏÐÏÉÁ ÅÉ×ÁÍ ÅÉÓÂÁËËÅÉ!

Ôé íá ðåéò ôþñá ãéá áõôÞ ôç öñÜóç. Äåí åßíáé ôüóï åýêïëï íá ðåéò ôñßá øÝììáôá óå ìéá öñÜóç äþäåêá ëÝîåùí!
ËÝåé ïõóéáóôéêÜ ôþñá üôé ç Ôñáðåæïýíôá õðÞñ÷å êáé ðñéí áðü ôïõò ¸ëëçíåò (äå ìáò ëÝíå ìå ðïéü üíïìá) êáé üôé áðëÜ åðéôÝèçêáí óôïõò Þäç õðÜñ÷ïíôåò êáôïßêïõò (äå ìáò ëÝåé ðïéïýò) êáé ôçí êáôÝëáâáí ìå ðüëåìï (äå ìáò ëÝåé ðïéüí)


In his memoirs called “Anabasis”, Ksenophon, who wanted to transport his returning army via Trabzon after the wars with the Persians in 400 BC, reports the presence of some combatant and civilised tribes in the region such as Tibaren, Khalybi, Drill, Tzanni, Makron and Kolkh. In their books, some European historians claim these tribes to be of Turanian origin


ÁíáöïñÜ óôï Ýñãï "ÊÕÑÏÕ ÁÍÁÂÁÓÉÓ". Åäþ åßíáé ôï ìåãÜëï ãÝëéï. Óáí íá ðñïóðáèåßò íá áðïäåßîåéò üôé ç Áãßá ÃñáöÞ åßíáé ðïñíïãñáöéêü êåßìåíï.
ËÝåé ëïéðüí ï óõíôÜêôçò ôïõ êåéìÝíïõ ðùò öõëÝò üðùò ïé Ôéâáñåßò ïé Êïë÷ßäåò êáé Üëëïé âñßóêïíôáí óôçí åõñýôåñç ðåñéï÷Þ ôçò Ìáýñçò ÈÜëáóóáò. ¼íôùò áõôü áëçèåýåé. Ðñï÷ùñÜåé üìùò êáé ðáñáêÜôù. ÄçëáäÞ ëÝãïíôáò ðùò êÜðïéïé (áðñïóäéïñßóôïõ áñéèìïý) åõñùðáßïé åðéóôÞìïíåò äéáôõðþíïõí óÞìåñá ôçí Üðïøç ðùò áõôïß Þôáí öõëÝò ÔÏÕÑÁÍÍÉÊÇÓ ðñïÝëåõóçò!!!

Êáé ëÝù ôþñá: ÂÉÂËÉÏÃÑÁÖÉÁ! ÐÅÉÔÅ ÌÁÓ ÓÅ ÐÏÉÏ ÂÉÂËÉÏ ÔÏ ÃÑÁÖÅÉ ÁÕÔÏ ÊÁÉ ÌÅ ÐÏÉÁ ÂÁÓÇ ÃÑÁÖÅÉ ÃÉÁ ÔÏÕÑÊÏÕÓ ÔÏ 756 Ð.×. ÍÁ ÔÏÕ ÐÁÑÏÕÌÅ ÔÏ ÄÉÐËÙÌÁ!


From this date until 1461, Trabzon was under the domination of the Trabzon Greek State founded by the Comnenos dynasty as an extension to the Byzantium.

Ç ðñþôç êáé ôåëåõôáßá öïñÜ ðïõ áíáöÝñïíôáé óå êÜôé åëëçíéêü. ÄçëáäÞ óôçí áõôïêñáôïñßá ôçò Ôñáðåæïõíôáò, ôï ôåëåõôáßï ðñïðýñãéï ðïõ Ýðåóå ôï 1461. Ðùò äå ìáò åßðáí üôé ïé Êïìíçíïß Þôáí Ôïýñêïé...


During the application of the Tanzimat Fermanı (edict of political reforms) in 1839, Trabzon was selected as a pilot city and a great deal of success was recorded in the application of reforms in the military, juridical and administrative areas


Äå ëÝåé ãéáôß. Ïé ìåôáññõèìßóåéò ôïõ ÔáíæéìÜô åß÷áí ùò áðïôÝëåóìá íá äïèïýí ðïëéôéóìéêÝò êáé ïéêïíïìéêÝò åëåõèåñßåò óôïõò ìç Ïèùìáíïýò êáôïßêïõò ôçò ÏèùìáíéêÞò Áõôïêñáôïñßáò. Áõôü ìå ëßãá ëüãéá óçìáßíåé ðùò ôï åìðüñéï ôçò ðüëçò ðÝñáóå óôïõò ¸ëëçíåò êáé ôïõò ÁñìÝíéïõò, ãéáõôü êáé áðïãåéþèçêå...

By 1900s, the city housed the delegates of many foreign countries at the consolatory level. Among these were the Austria-Hungary, Iran, England, Russia, France and Greece.

¹ìáñôïí! Ïé ¸ëëçíåò äéðëùìÜôåò ôçò ðüëçò óôçí ßäéá ìïßñá ìå ôïõò Áõóôñïïõããáñïýò êáé ôïõò ¢ããëïõò!


As a consequence, the city was occupied by Russia in April, 1916. Russia published orders limiting Turkish rights in the region and encouraging minorities, especially Greeks, against Turks.

ØÝìá ìåãáôüíùí. Ç Ñùóóßá áðëÜ ðñïóôÜôåõóå ôá äéêáéþìáôá ôùí ÷ñéóôéáíþí ôçò ðåñéï÷Þò (ÅëëÞíùí êáé Áñìåíßùí) êáé äåí ôïõò Ýóôñåøå óå êáììßá ðåñßðôùóç êáôÜ ôùí Ôïýñêùí. ÁõôÞ ç ñç÷Þ äéêáéïëïãßá Þôáí ç áéôßá óöáãéáóìïý 1,2 åêáôïììõñßùí Áñìåíßùí êáé 353.000 ÅëëÞíùí óôçí ðåñéï÷Þ ôçò Ìáýñçò ÈÜëáóóáò.

In order to realise their dream of establishing a Greek-Pontic state in Trabzon, the Greeks in the region accelerated their attempts, and Greek gangs attacked the Turks who remained in the region.

¢ëëï Ýíá øÝìá. Ôï êñÜôïò èá Þôáí ÐÏÍÔÏÁÑÌÅÍÉÊÏ êáé ü÷é Åëëçíéêü áìéãþò. Êáé áõôü ãéáôß åêåßíç ôçí ðåñßïäï õðÞñ÷å ç áñ÷Þ ôçò áõôïäéÜèåóçò. ÄçëáäÞ áí ç ðëåéïøçößá åíüò ëáïý Þèåëå íá êÜíåé êñÜôïò Þ íá åíùèåß ìå Üëëï, åß÷å ôï äéêáßùìá. Ïé ¸ëëçíåò êáé ïé ÁñìÝíéïé ôçò ðåñéï÷Þò, ùò ðëåéïøçößá, åß÷áí ôï áðüëõôï äéêáßùìá íá ôï ðñÜîïõí.

The city was demaged seriously during this two-year period. Houses, mosques, and graves were all destroyed, fields were neglected, and people were under very poor condition.

Äå ìáò ëÝåé ôé êôßñéá êáôåóôñÜöçóáí

successfully stopped the Greek-Pontus and Armenian attempts to acquire the region

¸ÔÓÉ ËÅÌÅ ÓÔÁ ÔÏÕÑÊÉÊÁ ÔÇ ÃÅÍÏÊÔÏÍÉÁ;

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ΨΕΜΜΑΤΑ ΤΕΛΟΣ ΓΙΑ ΕΔΩ ΟΜΩΣ. ΠΑΜΕ ΣΕ ΑΛΛΗ ΕΝΟΤΗΤΑ ΤΟΥ SITE. ΟΛΟΚΛΗΡΗ ΕΝΟΤΗΤΑ ΠΟΥ ΛΕΓΕΤΑΙ "PONTUS ISSUE"!


The Pontus claim that initially commenced in the first quarter of the 19th Century emerged as an aim of the Megali Idea (the Grand Ideal), which directed the Greek rebellion that ended in 1830 resulting in an independent Greece

Ψέμα. Η έννοια πόντος πρωτοαναφέρεται στον Όμηρο. Όσο για τον Εύξεινο Πόντο, υπήρξε ως έννοια από την αρχαιότητα, με μεγάλους άνδρες του πνεύματος όπως ο Στράβων και ο Διογένης ο κυνικός να έλκουν την καταγωγή απο εκεί. Οι φίλοι μας εδώ τοποθετούν την αρχή της έννοιας στα χρόνια του Βενιζέλου...


where less than % 10 Greek minority lived

Ανάξιο σχολιασμού...

Provoked by the Patriarch, their sole aim was to set up an independent Pontic state in the region, of which capital would be either Samsun or Trabzon and later they would annex this state to the Grand Greece.

Ο Οικουμενικός πατριάρχης φέρεται ως προπαγανδιστής...

Fully excited and spoilt by Russia, the Greek minority increased their assaults on the Turkish people.

Μας... διέφθειρε η Ρωσσία ρε παιδιά και κάναμε επιθέσεις στους καλούς Τούρκους.Αν είναι δυνατόν...


The Turks, the great majority of whom had already migrated to the west, tried to defend themselves against such assaults. However, after the hurried withdrawal of the Russians from the invaded territory upon the Bolshevik Revolution, the Turks regained the control of the region

Άλλη μια "κομψή" διαστρέβλωση της έννοιας γενοκτονία

While they continued their demands in Paris, the Greeks in the form of bands of bandits also started to raid the Turkish villages in and around Samsun .

Αναφορά στο ποντιακό αντάρτικο. Ληστές ήταν και τίποτε άλλο, που κατέσφαζαν αθώους Τούρκους.


in order to increase the number of Greek population in the region, the Pontus supporters started to propagate on the transfer of Greeks who lived along the Black Sea coast in Russia and also of those who had fled from the region with the Russian withdrawal to the region

Ουδέποτε υπήρξε μεταφορά ελληνικού πληθυσμού στον Πόντο.Το αντίθετο μάλιστα, από το 22 και μετά το τουρκικό κράτος ενίσχυσε με εποικισμούς τον εκτουρκισμό της περιοχής.

In fact, it was an Iranian family who had established that Kingdom, which meant that the Pontus Kingdom was not related to the Greek people at all

ΑΝΑΙΡΩΝΤΑΣ ΚΑΙ ΑΚΟΜΗ ΑΥΤΑ ΤΑ ΨΕΜΜΑΤΑ ΠΟΥ ΕΧΟΥΝ ΠΕΙ ΩΣ ΤΩΡΑ, ΑΝΑΦΕΡΟΝΤΑΙ ΣΤΟΝ ΜΙΘΡΙΔΑΤΗ ΤΟΝ ΕΥΠΑΤΩΡΑ, Ο ΟΠΟΙΟΣ ΑΝ ΚΑΙ ΠΕΡΣΗΣ, ΗΤΑΝ ΕΞΕΛΛΗΝΙΣΜΕΝΟΣ.

Και το 756 ποιά πόλη ίδρυσαν οι Έλληνες;


Most of the Greek people, who had been living with Turkish people for hundreds of years and who had been speaking Turkish fluently, identified themselves with the Turkish culture from various aspects

Οι Έλληνες μιλούσαν τούρκικα μόνο στην περίοδο της απαγόρευσης της ελληνικής γλώσσας, και συνεπώς της ποντιακής διαλέκτου, από το 1914 και μετά. Από καμμία άποψη δεν μπορεί να χαρακτηριστεί τούρκικη η πολιτισμική τους ταυτότητα. Δε μας λένε τι γλώσσα μιλούσαν οι τουρκοπόντιοι, την οποία αποκύρηξε ο Κεμάλ. Και τι γλώσσα μιλάνε ακόμη μέχρι σήμερα στα κρυφά οι γεροντότεροι της περιοχής.



ΙΣΤΟΣΕΛΙΔΑ ΤΟΥ ΕΠΙΣΗΜΟΥ ΠΑΝΕΠΙΣΤΗΜΙΟΥ ΤΗΣ ΜΑΥΡΗΣ ΘΑΛΑΣΣΑΣ.

ΚΑΤΑΛΑΒΑΤΕ ΛΟΙΠΟΝ ΠΕΡΙ ΤΙΝΟΣ ΠΡΟΚΕΙΤΑΙ;
ΔΕΝ ΤΗΝ ΕΓΡΑΨΕ ΑΥΤΗ ΤΗ ΣΕΛΙΔΑ ΚΑΝΕΝΑΣ ΣΚΟΠΙΑΝΟΣ, ΚΑΝΕΝΑΣ ΒΟΥΛΓΑΡΟΣ, ΚΑΝΕΝΑΣ ΤΟΥΡΚΟΣ ΚΟΜΠΛΕΞΙΚΟΣ ΠΟΥ ΘΕΛΕΙ ΝΑ ΠΡΟΚΑΛΕΣΕΙ. ΕΙΝΑΙ ΙΣΤΟΣΕΛΙΔΑ ΕΠΙΣΗΜΟΥ ΠΑΝΕΠΙΣΤΗΜΙΑΚΟΥ ΟΡΓΑΝΙΣΜΟΥ ΤΗΣ ΤΟΥΡΚΙΑΣ. ΕΙΝΑΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΚΗ ΠΡΟΠΑΓΑΝΔΑ ΑΠΟ ΕΝΑ ΚΡΑΤΟΣ ΠΟΥ ΜΟΝΟ ΑΥΤΟ ΜΠΟΡΕΙ ΝΑ ΚΑΝΕΙ. ΚΑΙ ΜΕΧΡΙ ΣΗΜΕΡΑ ΔΕΝ ΤΟ ΗΞΕΡΕ ΚΑ-ΝΕΙΣ! ΔΕΝ ΕΣΤΑΛΗ ΟΥΤΕ ΜΙΑ ΕΠΙΣΤΟΛΗ ΔΙΑΜΑΡΤΥΡΙΑΣ, ΟΥΤΕ ΕΝΑ ΔΙΑΒΗΜΑ ΑΠΟ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗΣ ΠΛΕΥΡΑΣ ΓΙΑ ΑΥΤΑ ΤΑ ΨΕΜΜΑΤΑ ΠΟΥ ΣΤΑΖΟΥΝ ΑΝΘΕΛΛΗΝΙΣΜΟ, ΤΑ ΟΠΟΙΑ ΔΙΑΒΑΖΕΙ ΟΠΟΙΟΣ ΜΠΑΙΝΕΙ ΣΤΗΝ ΙΣΤΟΣΕΛΙΔΑ ΤΟΥ ΠΑΝΕΠΙΣΤΗΜΙΟΥ ΤΗΣ ΜΑΥΡΗΣ ΘΑΛΑΣΣΑΣ.

chris

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para poly kalh h epishmansh kai h analysh gia afto to ektrwma pu prow8htai apo to TOURKIKO PROPAGANDISTIKO PANEPISTHMIO THS KATEXOMENHS TRAPEZOUNTAS.

kai to A8LIO einai kati dikes mas "sykies",diaforoi dhmosiografiskoi kai istorikoi tu KWLOU[tu DIKOU tus KA-TA-TRH-PH-ME-NOU kwlou] eixan kanei pro kairou protash na allaksoun ta biblia mas tu dhmotiku-gymnasiou-lykeiou giati krinontai akraia!
akraia loipon ENW TO MONO PU EKSISTOROUN EINAI H ISTORIKH ALH8EIA.h ALH8EIA einai akraia h e8nikistikh loipon MONO ths mias plevras?
H PARAPOIHSH KAI H PARAXARAKSH THS APO TUS TOURKOUS TI EINAI?

mprabo loipon gia thn parapanw analysh.etsi gia na ksypname kai ligo.giati ta polla "tsiftetelia tu giwrgakh papandreou me ton tzem" kai "koumparilikia tu kwstakh karamanlh me ton erdogan" mas koimizoun.

kostas4

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@petrovgr: file mou ekanes EKPLIKTIKI douleia.sygxaritiria gia tis prospatheies sou.

propaganda stis meres mas den ginete mono apo  komplexikous alla kyriws apo tis kyverniseis.kai dystixws oi dikoi mas mia zwh koimountai...

ksts

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http://www.mfa.gov.tr/grupa/default.htm

Kante clic opou thelete kai...apolafste.
Kai den einai selida panepistimiou pou isws kapoios kourazetai
gia na vrei sto diktio.Einai i episimi selida tou ipourgeiou
ekswterikwn tis Tourkias.

Pantws pistevw oti i alitheia vrisketai kapou sti mesi.
Kai exei apoxrwsi gkriza,den aresei se emas,den aresei kai stous Tourkous.
Ki omws re paidia,osous Tourkous exw gnwrisei den mporw na pw oti
den tous simpathisa san anthrwpous.

Krima.


northeagle_4

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kata ta alla emis echume to misos ke to komplex opos akouo teleftees meres !!! mia zoi malakes ti na po allo  :13: kimisou aggeloudi mou

Offline galatis4

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re paidia to link de douleuei ??...argei para poly kai den emfanizetai tipota...
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northeagle_4

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se mena bike sfera !!! isos apaxioi na bi me tis malakies pou grafoun eki mesa :) sostos o ipologistis sou file :P

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se mena bike sfera !!! isos apaxioi na bi me tis malakies pou grafoun eki mesa :) sostos o ipologistis sou file :P

profanws..trelo alani o kombiuteras mou  :lol:

boresa kai bika telika alla einai poly argo..pandws ti malakies pou grafoun autoi oi komplexikoi ??? eleos pia..
« Last Edit: May 28, 2005, 15:28:49 by galatis4 »
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northeagle_4

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    o dikos mou floros :)
kala oti na ne lene afti ,mechri ke analisi tis lexis greeks pou ine ke lathos parathetoun :)

 :13: kimisou aggeloudi mou

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Emena arneitai peismatika na mpei!
Einai kala ekpaideumenos omws! Ton eixa paei se sxolh!

Bebaia twra teleutaia mou spaei ta neura, giati kanei oti goustarei. Gia paradeigma prin ligo kairo apa3iwnai na diabasei CD! Efage to format tou kai twra o "kurios" arneitai na diabasei antegrammena DVD!

Oso gia thn tourkikh propaganda, mhn 3exnate oti o Omhros htan Tourkos kai malista legotane Omer!  :lol:
Wres wres autoi oi Tourkoi kai oi Prwhn Giougkoslaboi Dhmokrtates ths Makedonias einai polu asteioi!

northeagle_4

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 to diko sou sholio isos ine pio prepon gia teties katastasis :D
            "Ποτέ μη διαφωνείς δημοσίως με έναν Ηλίθιο.
            Ο κόσμος μπορεί να μην καταλάβει τη διαφορά!!! "
ne afto me ton omer ine tromero :D ke malista se mia epochi pou afti i ethnotita den ipirche os gnoston :D to agalma sta skopia to ides ??? ton kanane pezikario me sarissa sto cheri i asxeti,oute na klepsoun den xeroun :P

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kata ta alla emis echume to misos ke to komplex opos akouo teleftees meres !!! mia zoi malakes ti na po allo  :13: kimisou aggeloudi mou


na min mperdeuoume tin politiki kai to stratiotiko kathestos tis tourkias (pou pithanon einai piso apo auto to site) me tous aplous anthropous.

kirios omos, na min mperdeuoume tin politiki me ton athlitismo.

 iparhi terastia diafora otan milame gia enan tourko kai otan milame gia enan tourko athliti. opios katalabe, katalaba.
ΒΑΡΙΑ ΤΟΥ ΠΑΟΚ Η ΦΑΝΕΛΑ!

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kai allo topic gia tin tourkia...thee mou...

RE paidia mou glyka eseis pou to paizete Anti-Tourkoi mporeite na mou peite parakalw ti psifisate stis ekloges? (an exete vevaia dikaiwma psifou)
Giati to 99% tou ellinikou laou psifise PASOK ND KKE kai SYN,pou ola einai yper tis ellinotourkikis filias...
Ta de dyo megala kommata pou psifisan to 90% twn Ellinwn o de karamanlis exei pleon "syggeneia" kai o de Papandreou xoreve zeimpekika...

Kai mou to paizete meta Anti-Tourkoi?

Vre ai sa pera oloi sas..patriwtes tou kanape