Η ενδεχομενη μεταγραφη ΤΟΥΡΚΟΥ ποδοσφαιριστη στον ΠΑΟΚ και οι αντιδρασεις γιά την ΕΘΝΙΚΟΤΗΤΑ του

[aris (alla paok)]

Stamathste tis lakamies kai idiatera aytoi poy den exoyn paei kai strato h tha pane kapote gia 6 mhnes. Sxetika m'ayth th
metagrafh thelw na kanw mia erwthsh pros toys gnwrizontes kai idaitera pros to Doctor mhpws ayth h metagrafh sxetizetai
kai me allagh sta dioikhtika?

YG H erwthsh einai sovarh den kanw plaka

[demis-g4]

Tourkos ksetourkos egw 8elw na dw thn PAOKara mas prwta8lhtria.Kai an autos mporei na boh8hsei se auto gia mena sta arxidia mou kai an einai tourkos.O ka8e paixtaras kalodexoumenos...Kai sto katw katw egw exw gnwrhsei tourkous pou einai kshghmenoi.Nomizw oti edw mperdeuontai ta pragmata.To paidi 8a er8ei na mas boh8hsei oxi na mas kanei propaganda.Thn istoria mas nomizw oti oloi thn kseroume,alla den nomizw na exei kamia sxesh auto to pragma me auto....

[MAKPTOL]

σκοπιανοι ,βουλγαροι τουρκοι με το δικο σου σκεπτικο πρεπει να αποκλειεται να ερχονται σαν παικτες απο την ομαδα μας .......

[northeagle_4]

  file MAKPTOL echo vivlia pou graftikan apo to 1924-1940 apo prosfiges aftoptes martires kai anaferoun oti itan poli ligi pou tous voithisane alla itan para polli pou tous krivane enandi amivis ke meta tus katedidan !!! i exeresi ston kanona iparchi opos ipa.den ine misos,ezisa germania gnorisa tourkous!!!
  echi shesi me to thema afou o pektis ine tourkos !!! ego pandos tha ton chirokrotiso mono an tragoudisi mazi mas to :  :05: Mia mera tha to grapsi i istoria pos bikane i Paoktsides stin tourkia ke bikane ke pirane tin poli ke trechane i tourkalades oli,ke tou PAOK ta pedia bikan stin ag.sofia ,ton dikefalo na stisoun ke tous gavrous na ga....un ,tis vazeles tis po....es ke ton arianon tis manes !!! :05:
   ke pou tha erthoun diladi skopiani,turki,voulgari i omada tha pari to CL oti savoura iparchi echume feri apo aftes tis chores ande na piasi ke   enas  stous 50 !!! alla mechri eki ftanoun ta cheria mas na pernoume ochi apo 2 alla apo deka fores pio chalia podosferika chores pektes !!! den pas pouthena me aftiin tin filosofia an thes na milisoume ke agonistika !!!!!

[fatal_invasion]

north... gia poia vivlia milas?mporeis na doseis titlo kai sigrafea?

[Georgie-4-]

north... gia poia vivlia milas?mporeis na doseis titlo kai sigrafea?

min perimeneis apantisi

[northeagle_4]

 "Selides ek tis mavris ethnikis simforas tou pondou" Ant.I. Gavriilidis tipothike to 1924 stin athina afou aftos metamfiesmenos ke me tin voithia dio kourdon (odigi) ke dio armenion (ikonomika) katafere na xefigi meta apo pories,tagmata ergasias ktl o tipos itan apo tus megalous kapnemborous tis pafras ke ine axiosimioto o tropos pou grafi eno stin ellada iche 70% analfavitismo!!!
   ta alla tha sta doso otan anevo afou ine sto spiti tu patera mou saloniki!!!

[northeagle_4]

Georgie-4-
   den tha to sholiaso,gamise to

[Georgie-4-]

tapeina syggnwmi.
tha to diavasw to vivlio avto.
yparxei sta vivliopolia?

[fatal_invasion]

tapeina syggnwmi.
tha to diavasw to vivlio avto.
yparxei sta vivliopolia?

kai go thelo,,north sesteila pm..to exeis perasmeno se ipologisti?

[northeagle_4]

  ola ok gerge !!!
 persy to pira apo to vivliopolio stin aristotelous tou malliari !!! den to echo di se pc alla tha to vrite sigoura !!!

[MAKPTOL]

"Selides ek tis mavris ethnikis simforas tou pondou" Ant.I. Gavriilidis tipothike to 1924 stin athina afou aftos metamfiesmenos ke me tin voithia dio kourdon (odigi) ke dio armenion (ikonomika) katafere na xefigi meta apo pories,tagmata ergasias ktl o tipos itan apo tus megalous kapnemborous tis pafras ke ine axiosimioto o tropos pou grafi eno stin ellada iche 70% analfavitismo!!!
   ta alla tha sta doso otan anevo afou ine sto spiti tu patera mou saloniki!!!

ολα αυτα που γραφεις ειναι ανοιχτες πληγες σε ολους εμας τους ποντιους αδερφε  τα καταλαβαινω αλλα δεν τα αδικεις να τα μπερδευεις με το ποδοσφαιρο ?.........................στο κατω κατω υπαλληλος του ΠΑΟΚ
θα ειναι για να  θα βοηθησει να ανεβει ο ΠΑΟΚ .............ΥΠΑΛΛΗΛΟΣ......

[northeagle_4]

 file den ine aplos ipallilos distichos !!! ekprosopi kati afti i gamimeni fanella,an to evlepa etsi to podosfero ego tha imoun gavros i' vazelos,den genithikame tichea PAOK.... endaxi isos ego ime ipervolikos alla pes mou ola afta ta sinthimata pou ichun dekaeties mesa stin toumba ti itan efe ke xerete oli pia sinthimata leo.  telospandon !!!  dichos ichnos ratsismo apla den teriazi sti stin istoria ,nootropia ke ton kosmo tis omadas aftos o pektis ........

[apaoki13]

LOIPOOOOON.

Prwta ap' ola den ton peirame kai ws gnwstwn h dioikhsh tou "goymeno-malaka" dyskolevetai na kleisei metagrafh akomh kai an o paikths er8ei mpousoulontas sthn thessaloniki kai parakalaei na ton paroun.

Deyterwn. Den exw grapsei gia politikh se ayto to forum oute kan stis selides pou syzhtame politika zhthmata gia ton aploustato logo oti gia mena o PAOK einai yperanw opoioudhpote politikou, opoiasdhpote politikhs ideologias h 8ewrias.  Omws an kai PAOKtshs den egina gia thn istoria ayths ths omadas, ema8a na agapw kai na sebomai thn istoria mas.

Pistevete oti an estw kai enas apo tous idrytes mas zouse shmera 8a synhgorouse sthn proslhpsh enws tourkou sthn omada;;;;;

Den 8a apodokimasw kapoion paikth ths omadas giati to yposxe8hka ston eayto mou oti den 8a xanapesw se ayto to la8os (a re zhsh ti mas ekanes!) omws gia mena aytos o typos (epanalamvanw an kataferoun na ton agorasoun) 8a einai xeno swma kai 8a me kanei na apodokimasw akomh pio entona ton xontro kai tous ypallhlous tou.

P.S. Skefthke kanenas apo aytous tous malakes sthn pae oti mporei -den xerw, mporei- na dhmiourgh8ei problhma sthn omada anamesa stous kyprious kai ton tourko;;;;

[alessandro4]

LOIPOOOOON.

Prwta ap' ola den ton peirame kai ws gnwstwn h dioikhsh tou "goymeno-malaka" dyskolevetai na kleisei metagrafh akomh kai an o paikths er8ei mpousoulontas sthn thessaloniki kai parakalaei na ton paroun.

Deyterwn. Den exw grapsei gia politikh se ayto to forum oute kan stis selides pou syzhtame politika zhthmata gia ton aploustato logo oti gia mena o PAOK einai yperanw opoioudhpote politikou, opoiasdhpote politikhs ideologias h 8ewrias. Omws an kai PAOKtshs den egina gia thn istoria ayths ths omadas, ema8a na agapw kai na sebomai thn istoria mas.

Pistevete oti an estw kai enas apo tous idrytes mas zouse shmera 8a synhgorouse sthn proslhpsh enws tourkou sthn omada;;;;;

Den 8a apodokimasw kapoion paikth ths omadas giati to yposxe8hka ston eayto mou oti den 8a xanapesw se ayto to la8os (a re zhsh ti mas ekanes!) omws gia mena aytos o typos (epanalamvanw an kataferoun na ton agorasoun) 8a einai xeno swma kai 8a me kanei na apodokimasw akomh pio entona ton xontro kai tous ypallhlous tou.

P.S. Skefthke kanenas apo aytous tous malakes sthn pae oti mporei -den xerw, mporei- na dhmiourgh8ei problhma sthn omada anamesa stous kyprious kai ton tourko;;;;

foberi paratirisi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Perimeno kai ego apantisi

[northeagle_4]

 apaoki13
  megali maggia afto pou ipes me tus kiprious !!!  
ego ipa oti tha ton apodokimazo ektos ke an tragousisi mazi mas ta gnoista sinthimata i mipos prepi na ta kopsume ke afta

[Agopian]

       Mages, thelw na symfwnisw oti i sizitisi shetika me thn proeleysi tou paikti einai ANOUSIA  se ayto to topic...
      einai alitheia oti i MEGALI PLEIOPSIFIA tou laou KSENERWSE me th metagrafi tourkou ston Latremeno PAOK mas...OLOI kseroume ti simainei o DIKEFALOS kai ta 4 IERA grammata...PAOK...
      OMWS, pairnontas DEDOMENO oti einai kalo paiktaki, pisteyw:
 1. AN paiksei kala, deihnei oti prospatheI, SEVETAI to LAO kai thn OMADA...tote tha heirokrotithei- poly apla...
2.AN nomizei oti irthe gia na poulisei trela..., varietai, kai DEN katalavainei ti simainei na foraei th FANELA TOY MEGALOU PAOK...tote tha faei SOOUT-poly apla...
     
      Pisteyw oti sto topic-alla kai genika- prepei na paroume ws DEDOMENO-dystihws i eftixws- to oti o fatih einai tourkos. Na doume an i metagrafi tou ,(OTAN TELIKA YPOGRAPSEI 100%), einai mia metagrafii ousias gia thn omada mas kai an mporei na prosferei...
    Etsi kai alliws pairnoume ws DEDOMENO oti einai epilogi mias dioikisis-bourdelou...pou  apo ola ta ftina deksi back ston planiti katelikse se ena paiktaki pou ne men- logika- einai POIOTIKOS...apo tin alli fenetai na einai ligo tsohlanaki, apo ton Noemvrio kai meta ehei paiksei 1 mats, kai to VASIKOTERO ektos tourkias ehei deiksei stoiheia' TYXODIOKTISMOU' (Majorca, Bochum) ...

        ADELFIA OLOI ehoume politikes pepoithiseis...koinwnika pisteyw....proswpika gegonota... alla TIPOTA den hwra stI PAOKARA MAS...

        Hairetismous apo agglia...fate kammia mpougatsa kai gia mas
       Agop
   

[Agopian]

       Episis poly swstos o filos pou eipe gia tous Kyprious paiktes, alla de nomizw na ehoume Kyprious tou hronou...AN telika erthei...


         IN MY MIND...PAOK I FIND
         
           GINE MELOS DWSE TELOS.


                 
             
                   

             

[sabbath]

ti sas halaei re pou einai tourkos?pali arxisame th mizeria?ti eimaste emeis re .den pame kala>

[NewOrder]

ti ine afta re prosfigiki omada na feri tourko pekti na min erthi to mou__ ni o tourkos ,tha pesi poli vrisimo !!!

Loipon, file mou north, KSEKOLLA ligaki, se parakalw poly... Mpainontas sto forum apopse eida 5+ nees selides sto post twn metagrafwn mesa se ligotero apo mish mera...OPA lew, o Tourkos...telika diapistwsa oti ta perissotera apo 1/3 (mhn pw 1/2) posts htan dika sou, ti prospa8eis na apodeikseis??

Gia na valoume ta pragmata ligaki sth 8esh tous, prwton kai kalyteron posoi apo esas gnwrizete oti o prwtos 'ksenos' paixths sthn istoria tou paok htan TOURKOS kapou ekei sto '30 '40?? To lew me ka8e epifylaksh alla exw diavasei arketes fores thn istoria tou PAOK kai eimai 90% sigouros oti to exw synanthsei, psaxte to (kserete, 'peraclub', aderfos mas, exei tourkiko onoma alla thelei na paiksei san ellhnas, htan o monos tropos na 'mpei' ksenos ekeino ton kairo...)

Epipleon h alh8eia einai pws osoi apo mas exoun gnwrisei tourkous 8a exoun diapistwsei oti einai oi pleon akomplexaristoi mazi mas kai oti oi agaph pou mas exoun kai ta xamogela tous einai toso gnhsia pou mono se 'lykofilia' den parapempei...Emeis exoume ypoferei perissotera ap'aytous dekto, alla mh ginomaste emeis oi komplexikoi sto telos, oi aploi ka8hmerinoi tourkoi einai ontws psyxoules kai eksw kardia. (Na mou peis px gia kapoious athinaious pou gnwrizw, ena 30-40% as poume den tous ANTEXW, apla, exoune diaforetika myala...) (kai fysika epishs kai apo ta kalytera paidia pou exw gnwrisei einai kapoioi a8hnaioi...) Kai gw den eimai toso 'anetos' gnwrizontas tourkous edw sthn agglia, alla vlepontas poso anoixtoi kai filikoi einai arxizw na noiw8w kapou egw o komplexikos (kai skefteite to paradeigma poso eykola paei ellhnas athlhths na paiksei sto tourkiko prwtathlima, kai kata poso ginetai to anti8eto...ANTE NA KSEKOLLAME siga-siga, ayton ton paixth mono an ton kanoume na goustarei thn omada 8a ton doume na paizei, alliws 8a 'ton paizei'...