05-06 UEFA Cup: Γενική Συζήτηση για τους ομίλους και τις κληρώσεις

[PARIZIANOS]

Omologw pws den kobw kai to xeri mou, alla elege (nomizw sto www.sportnews.gr) gia to "LIASSO LOYKA". To diko mas to "apokthma" pws to elegan? Den to elegan etsi?

[PARIZIANOS]

Kala bre karntasi, pws kaneis etsi na'oume?Xalarwse, den hksera, den rwtaga?
E, na, twra tha rwthsw epitelous:
Me dedomeno pws edw sto ekswteriko exoume ws enhmerwsh mono esas olous kai to Internet, poio site einai PAOKtsidiko ('h sth xeiroterh: oydetero) gia na blepoyme?

[petrovgr]

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ΚΑΙ ΊΣΩΣ ΒΓΑΛΕΙΣ ΤΗΝ ΑΚΡΗ! ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ ΒΕΒΑΙΑ ΚΑΙ Η ΠΕΡΙΠΤΩΣΗ ΜΕ ΟΛΑ ΤΑ ΑΝΤΙΚΡΟΥΟΜΕΝΑ ΠΟΥ ΘΑ ΔΙΑΒΑΣΕΙΣ ΝΑ ΜΠΕΡΔΕΥΤΕΙΣ ΑΚΟΜΑ ΠΕΡΙΣΣΟΤΕΡΟ. ΚΑΛΗ ΤΥΧΗ ΠΑΝΤΩΣ!

[Conan4]

popo re pousth mou..mexri na er8ei h 15 Septemvriou 8a vjalw kanthles 
eeeem...peritto na sas pw oti h Alpha Ethniki 8a ksekinhsei..."zise MAI na fas trifylli" 

[Conan4]

Aytes oi omades perasane sto deytero prokrimatiko gyro tou UEFA-Cup:
NOR    Q1    Viking FK****    12.665
GER    Q1    1. FSV Mainz 05****    16.166
DEN    Q1    Esbjerg fB****    6.676
ROU    Q1    AFC Rapid Bucuresti    8.101
SVK    Q1    MŠK Žilina    3.850
SLO    Q1    NK Domzale    3.190
CYP    Q1    AC Omonia*    2.695
CYP    Q1    APOEL FC    5.695
MDA    Q1    FC Nistru Otaci*    2.090
LAT    Q1    FHK Liepajas Metalurgs    2.200
FIN    Q1    Myllykosken Pallo-47*    2.158
FIN    Q1    AC Allianssi    2.158
BIH    Q1    NK Široki Brijeg    2.365
MKD    Q1    FK Baskimi*    1.485
MKD    Q1    FK Vardar    2.485
BLS    Q1    FC MTZ-RIPO Minsk*    1.347
BLS    Q1    FC BATE Borisov    1.347
ISL    Q1    Keflavík*    1.595
IRL    Q1    Cork City FC    1.375
ARM    Q1    FC Banants    0.990
WAL    Q1    Rhyl FC    0.605
WAL    Q1    Carmarthen Town AFC**    0.605
LIE    Q1    FC Vaduz*    1.320
NIR    Q1    Linfield FC    0.715
FAR    Q1    B36 Tórshavn    0.330

[king]

Xerei kaneis pote einai h klirwsh?

[giannis80]

26 augoustou,afou ksekatharistei pios apolkleistike apo CL,pios prokrinete apo intertoto ktl.Genika,tha exei kales omades fetos to uefa kai kalo tha itan na tis petixoume ston omilo(theoroume oti tha perasoume).Betis H' monako, Saxtor, Vasileia H' Berder, Sporting H' Udineze, pou erxonte apo CL, mallon korunia,amvourgo H' valenthia apo intertoto,tha einai apo tis pio dinates ipotithete tou uefa,alla an ekseresoume kanadio ap'autes(valenthia kai ante betis),tis ipoloipes mporei na tis kerdisei o sovaros PAOK mes stin TOUMPA.Gi'auto kai epeidi tha paiksoume 4 matsakia ston omilo(2 mesa,2 ekso), tha eimaste tixeroi kata tin gnomi mou na tixoume ta 2 entos me omades dinates(gia na exoume sold out kai agonistika perisoteres pithanotites nikis,mia kai oi vathmoi metrane) kai tis 2 pio adinames ektos,afou einai sigouro oti tha exei kai kanadio adinames omades o omilos,kai an einai kai omades apo kentriki europi oi adinames,akoma kalitera giati tha paiksoume ousiastika kai ta 4 matsakia entos edras afou ta adefia mas stin kentriki europi tha kanonisoun gi'auto.Alla as perasoume prota apo tous omilous,entaksi persi pesame se omada pou ekane tin kaliteri xronia tis istorias tis kai eixe omadara opos fanike(alkmaar),eno emeis eimastan xalia.

[Ziaka]

Avrio ine i klirosi. Edo ine ta dyo group omadon. O PAOK ine stous dynatous ke tha antimetopisi mia omada apo tous adynatous:

SEEDED TEAMS

CSKA Moscow - (Russia) - 34.469
AS Roma -   (Italy) - 73.191
Bayer Leverkusen - (Germany) - 65.166
Feyenoord Rotterdam - (Holland)   - 62.145
VfB Stuttgart - (Germany) - 58.166
Sporting Lisbon - (Portugal) - 55.739
AS Monaco    - (France)   - 53.324
AJ Auxerre    - (France)   - 51.324
Galatasaray Êùíóôáíôéíïýðïëç - (Turkey) - 50.872
AEK Athens - (Greece) - 47.714
Hertha BSC - (Germany) - 46.166
Lokomotiv Moscow - (Russia) - 38.469
Besiktas Êùíóôáíôéíïýðïëç - (Turkey) - 37.872
AZ Alkmaar - (Holland) - 37.145
Sevilla - (Spain) - 36.326
Olympique Marseille - (France) - 36.324
PAOK Thessaloniki - (Greece) - 35.714
Slavia Praha - (Czech Rep.) - 35.223
FC Basel -    (Switzerland) - 33.887
Wisla Krakow - (Poland) - 32.929
Middlesbrough - (England) - 32.864
Partizan Belgrade - (Serbia) - 30.012
Espanyol -   (Spain) - 29.326
RC Lens - (France) - 29.324
Shakhtar Donetsk - (Ukraine) - 28.199
Austria Vienna - (Austria) - 27.208
Heerenveen - (Holland) - 26.145
Grazer AK   - (Austria)   - 25.208
CA Osasuna - (Spain)   - 24.326
Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk - (Ukraine) - 24.199
SV Hamburg - (Germany) - 24.166
Red Star Belgrade - (Serbia-Montenegro) - 21.012
Everton - (England) - 20.864
Bolton Wanderers - (England) - 20.864
Sampdoria   (Italy) - 20.191
Palermo   (Italy) - 20.191
Steaua Bukurest - (Romania) - 20.101
Brodby IF   - (Denamrk) - 19.676
Racing Genk - (Belgium) - 19.476
Grasshopper-Club Zuzrich - (Switzerland) - 18.887

UNSEEDED TEAMS

Zenit St. Petersburg - (Russia) - 18.469
FK Teplice   - (Czech Rep.) - 18.223
Levski Sofia - (Bulgaria) - 18.118
RC Strasbourg - (France) - 17.324
Stade Rennais - (France) - 16.324
FSV Mainz 05 - (Germany) - 16.166
Sporting Braga - (Portugal) - 15.739
Aris Thessaloniki - (Greece) - 15.714
FC Copenhagen - (Denmark) - 15.676
CSKA Sofia - (Bulgaria) - 15.118
Vitoria Setubal - (Portugal) - 14.739
Vitoria Guimaraes - (Portugal) - 14.739
DVSC Debrecen - (Hungary) - 14.39
FC Lovech   - (Bulgaria) - 14.118
Willem II Tilburg - (Holland) - 13.145
Halmstads BK - (Sweden) - 13.076
Skoda Xanthi FC - (Greece) - 12.714
Viking Stavanger - (Norway) - 12.665
Hibernian - (Scotland)   - 12.476
Dinamo Bucuresti - (Romania) - 12.101
Groclin Grodzisk - (Poland) - 11.929
Valerengen IF - (Norway) - 11.665
Germinal Beerschot -    (Belgium) - 10.476
Banik Ostrava - (Czech Rep.) - 10.223
Metalurg Donetsk - (Ukraine) - 10.199
FC Midtjylland - (Denamrk) - 8.676
Krylia Sovetov Samara - (Russia) - 8.469
Rapid Bucuresti - (Romania) - 8.101
SK Brann Bergen - (Norway) - 7.665
Maccabi Petah-Tikva - (Israel) - 7.218
FC Zurich   - (Switzerland) - 6.887
Tromso IL   - (Norway) - 6.665
Lokomotiv Plovdiv - (Bulgaria) - 6.118
APOEL Nicosia - (Cyprus) - 5.695
Malmo FF -   (Sweden)   - 5.076
Anorthosis Famagusta   - (Cyprus)   - 4.695
NK Domzale - (Slovenia) - 3.19
Siroki Brijeg - (Bosnia-Hercegovina) - 2.364
MyPa-47 - (Finland) - 2.158
Cork City - (Ireland) - 1.375

[PAOK_VOLOS]

Provlepo Debretsen h Copenhagen
Gia na do provlepeis!

[PAOK_VOLOS]

H klhrosh stis 13:00 apo to Eurosport. Live.

[PARVAS4]

An prose3ate, eimaste 17oi sthn katata3h. Ayto shmainei oti 8eloume na apokleistei enas isxyroteros apo emas gia na eimaste sto 2o ki oxi sto 3o group dynamikothtas an prwta me to kalo perasoume stous omilous.

[w|lD ShaRK]

Egw 8elw MyPa 

Ante PAOKARA mia kalh klhrwsh gamw thn trella mou.

8elw pantws na apofygoume Zenit, Strasbourg, Rennais, Mainz kai Willem.
Kai opwsdhpote Debrecen 

[PARVAS4]

Pwpwpw... yparxoun kai kati adynames... panagia voh8a...

Zenit St. Petersburg - (Russia) - 18.469
RC Strasbourg - (France) - 17.324
Stade Rennais - (France) - 16.324
FSV Mainz 05 - (Germany) - 16.166
FC Copenhagen - (Denmark) - 15.676


Makria kai agaphmenoi...

PS: Yparxei dynatothta na 3eroume apo twra ta group (dhladh tis pi8anes adynames antipalous mas) h 8a ta ma8oume ayrio to prwi?

[maik.paok]

eide paokara blepo opos ke na exi omilous den masame sta prokrimatika

[AK4]

PS: Yparxei dynatothta na 3eroume apo twra ta group (dhladh tis pi8anes adynames antipalous mas) h 8a ta ma8oume ayrio to prwi?

Ta group kathorizonte liges ores prin tin teliki klirosi.. Outos i alos liges ores minane !

Kapies skepsis gia tin klirosi.

To idaniko tha ine na tihoume me oso to dinaton pio adinamo antipalo gia na "exasfalisoume" tous omilous. Epithimito top-3:
Cork City,Siroki,Domzale..
An ine na pame se Anatoliko blok,sigoura mia apo tis 4 (!!!) Voulgarikes tha itan mia kali klirosi analogizomeni tis ohi spoudees dinatotites tous ala ke tin efkeria mias pragmatikis "apovasis" sti gitona !!
Makria apo tis 2 Galikes ke tis 3 Portougezes.. Den nomizo na imaste akomi etimi gia tetiou idous peripeties
Makria ke apo pithano emfilio me tis 2 Kipriakes..
Tis mas meni lipon ? Kati liga apo kentriki Evropi ke arketi Skandinavia. A,na mi xehaso ke ti gmmeni ti Loki ! Aftous pragmatika tha tous ithela 

Tespa,as elpisoume gia to kalitero. Pantos, emena to mati mou emine sti Hibs... Ti les vre Ioanni,kalo de tha itan ena taxidaki sto fthinoporino Edinburgh ? 

[Δημήτρης-4]

ego thelo tin mainz.. oxi apo dinamikotita giati ama peksoume me aftin tha pao na do tin PAOKARA!!

[Dimitris69]

Loipon tha simfoniso kai ego me tin logiki makria po dinates omades.      Akoma theloume desimo kai sto kato kato xreiazomaste kai ligo tixi. Nai men apokleisame Arsenal sto parelthon alla theloume tixi fetos gia na boume se omilous kai na pesei kai kanena frago sta tameia. Makria apo pereipeties.
Lete na pesoume me kanena ARI kai na gelame...oxi pos den exei kindinous mia tetoia anametrisi alla leme tora 

[Gewlogos]

Egw 8elw na paiksoume me tin Aris-Ierousalim (Israel)..
Pistevw 8a einai i pio bati klirwsi..
Tyxeros opoios klirw8ei m'aftous tous pe8amenous..

[blue_eyes]

H klhrosh stis 13:00 apo to Eurosport. Live.

στις 2 ωρα ελλαδος νομιζω....

An prose3ate, eimaste 17oi sthn katata3h. Ayto shmainei oti 8eloume na apokleistei enas isxyroteros apo emas gia na eimaste sto 2o ki oxi sto 3o group dynamikothtas an prwta me to kalo perasoume stous omilous.

λογικα θα γινει...1 στους 16 να στραβοπατησει

παντως εχω προαισθημα οτι θα τυχουμε με κυπριακη...ποια απο τις δυο δεν ξερω

[8emhs]

PS: Yparxei dynatothta na 3eroume apo twra ta group (dhladh tis pi8anes adynames antipalous mas) h 8a ta ma8oume ayrio to prwi?

Ta group kathorizonte liges ores prin tin teliki klirosi.. Outos i alos liges ores minane !

Kapies skepsis gia tin klirosi.

To idaniko tha ine na tihoume me oso to dinaton pio adinamo antipalo gia na "exasfalisoume" tous omilous. Epithimito top-3:
Cork City,Siroki,Domzale..
An ine na pame se Anatoliko blok,sigoura mia apo tis 4 (!!!) Voulgarikes tha itan mia kali klirosi analogizomeni tis ohi spoudees dinatotites tous ala ke tin efkeria mias pragmatikis "apovasis" sti gitona !!
Makria apo tis 2 Galikes ke tis 3 Portougezes.. Den nomizo na imaste akomi etimi gia tetiou idous peripeties
Makria ke apo pithano emfilio me tis 2 Kipriakes..
Tis mas meni lipon ? Kati liga apo kentriki Evropi ke arketi Skandinavia. A,na mi xehaso ke ti gmmeni ti Loki ! Aftous pragmatika tha tous ithela 

Tespa,as elpisoume gia to kalitero. Pantos, emena to mati mou emine sti Hibs... Ti les vre Ioanni,kalo de tha itan ena taxidaki sto fthinoporino Edinburgh ? 

Diafwnw ligo se sxesh me th mia voulgarikh, thn CSKA, auth pou epaikse me th Liverpool sta prokrimatika tou CL. To eida to mats kai exoun polu kalh omada, polu kales pases, kentro kai epi8esh einai fwtia. Kata ta alla sumfwnw. To Edimvourgo mou akougetai kai mena sa polu kalh idea!