Μαρτης 2003 Προταση Καλυβα για συμμετοχη κοσμου,προνομιακες μετοχες,εκπροσωπο.Βελτιωμένη πρόταση τον Οκτωμβριο 2006

[pavlosk]

Diavasa ton filathlo shmera kai eida pws o kosmos tou PAOK kai idietera oi makedones kai ligotero oi thyra 4 symfwnoun me thn protash kalyva gia symmetoxh tou kosmou mesw agoras pronomiouxwn metoxwn kai apostolh ekprwsopou sthn dikoikhsh.

Thelw loipon thn gnwmh sas, mias kai agorasths den vriskete opws deixnoun ta pragmata afou kai o mpatman den fenete na einai diatethiomenos na poulhsei.

pavlosk

[arafat4]

arxige ta pragmata einai aditheta...i thira 4 einai karga iper aftoy toy pragamatos....i protasi einai i exis...30000 atoma skane 30000 drx to xrono kai stelnoyn ekproswpoys sti dioikisi...aftoi me ti seira toys den tha einai pliopseifia sto simboylio alla oysiastika tha askoyn elegxo(kai mono elegxo xwris dinatotita apofasewn kai parembasewn) kai tha xeroyme ti tha pezete....
proswpiki moy apopsi...apokleiete na brethoyn tosa atoma na dwsoyn afta ta lefta gia aplo elegxo stin pae kai oxi gia oysiastiki dioikisi...exw tin aisthisi oti borei na brethoyn 5000 atoma apo thessaloniki...5000 atoma kai parapanw apo eparxia...kai alla 5000 kai parapanw apo exwteriko kai eidika germania(as me boithisei se afto to noymero kapoio tsakali apo germania) poy na dwsoyn afta ta lefta(gia olo to xrono milame)...an einai i dioikisi na askithei exolokliroy apo toys eklegmenoys apo to lao simboyloys...gia na ftasoyme afta ta noymera poy egrapsa prepei na kinitopioithoyn oi pades...na iparxei pliris enimerwsi gia toys stoxoys kathws kai gia tin axipopistia toy egxeirimatos...na boyn brosta oloi oi palemaxoi(poy boroyn na siginisoyn toys penidarides poy exoyn kai pio polla fraga apo toys pitsirikades) oi sindesmoi kai oi pades(mexri kai o piros dimas poy einai simbolo gia toys ellines oloy toy kosmoy kai pinoyn nero sto onoma toy kai dakrizoyn sto akoysma toy onomatos toy oi ellines tis xenitias...)...ta pragmata einai diskola loipon kai thelei poli prospatheia...sigekrimena pistevw oti to sxedio toy kaliba tha apotixei(ase poy apokleiete na simfwnisoyn oloi) giati den ta bazei efkola o PAOKtsis ta lefta toy tin wra poy iparxei pliris apaxiwsh olwn twn thesmwn girw apo ton paok....apaxiwsh kai twn sindesmwn kai twn palemaxwn kai fisika panw apola tis twrinhs dioikishs....eidwmen.

[DoctorBalendar]

Proswpika pisteuw oti i prospa8eia Kaluba aksizei. Den prepei na meinei anekmetalleuti i eukairia na apoktisoume emeis oi PAOKtsides logo sta koina tou PAOK. Exw metoxes kai to mono pou katafera stin proigoumeni suneleusi itan na katapsifisw ton isologismo. Kai ti egine? Pali proedros o Mpatiroudis einai...An eimastan perissoteroi kai me parapanw metoxes isws kai na elegxame ta pragmata prin ftasoun se auto to simeio.

Apo Germania 8a bre8oun sigoura gurw sta 4000-5000 atoma. Edw exoume ton PAOK polu psila kai 8a 8eloume oloi na boi8isoume.

Oso gia tin ousiastiki dioikisi pou les auto mporei mono na ginei siga siga, otan wrimasoume sta dioikitika kai otan i omada parei ena dromo. Etsi opws einai twra, mono ton "super3" 8a paizame. Isws sto mellon i eisodos sto xrimatistirio boi8isei na ginoun ta pragmata pio grigora...

[pavlosk]

arafat4

den ennow oti h thira 4 einai antitheth sto olo egxeirhma alla oti den einai tooooso zesth oso oi makedones.

Aaaaa kai egw apo germania eimai kai den eimai sigouros ean vrethoun toso kosmos gia na agorasei metoxes makri omws na ginei.

To pio kalo vevaia einai na o mpatman na ginei apla megalometoxos dhladh katw tou 50 % gia na exoume plhrh diafaneia. oneira kai oneira tha mou peite alla oso zw elpizw.

pavlosk

[Passenger-4]

Ki egw simfwnw me protasi kalyva..apla diatirw tis epifilakseis mou giati polla akoume ta teleutaia xronia...ypomoni kai tha doume ti tha ginei

[ALEX]

me vash kai me vash to PROYPARXON TOPIC/AR8RO pou to eixe ksekinhsei o "pavlosk" me TITLO:"protash kalyva" eprepe to yparxon TOPIC na faei DIAGRAFH.alla eimaste kala paidia emeis tou PAOKWORLD pana8ema mas....eimaste kala paidia.chris tis teleytaies ekseliksis sthn omada mas exo na kano mia protasei perei laikeis vaseis kai thelo ta sxolia sas ths protaseis sas erotiseis pou exete kai ta loipa.                       <laikh vash loipon simfono apolita omos oxi sta metra pou protinei o kalivas giath den sou eksasfalizei tipota kai ola einai xima>                                                                           <i protash mou ksekinaei apo tin kardia tou somatiou ton erasitexnei prepei o erasitexneis na aniksh gia ton aplo kosmo na ginei kati san club  me sindromh xroniaia p.x. 100eyro(afou parei tis metoxes prota kai xoris megalometo) prosferontas kai ala pronomia sta meli(ftinotera eisitiria diarkies,ekptoseis meta apo simfonies me tous xorigous tis omadas marketing diladh kai arketa esoda,ekdromes kai alla tetoia) meta apo tin simplirosh enos xronikou diastimatos na ginoun ekloges apo ta melh psifizontas tous protinomenous(kai afou exoun katathesi plana anaptiksis o kathenas kai exoun mirastei sta meli)meta tin anadeiksh doiikitikou simvouliou proxoramestin eyresh epixirimatia me diagonismo oi opoi tha katathesoun plana protaseis anaptikshs tou tmimatos pou diekdikoun gia enoikiasei tou 40% ton metoxon gia 4-5 xronia kai gia na diasfalisth to somatio o ependiths tha prepei na katathesei se trapeza parakatathikon daneion ena sevastotato poso h periousia polon dis se periptosei pou katastrepsei to somatio (gia na min erxete o kethe tixarpastos) vevaia an ginoun ola ayta me tis aparetites asfalistikes diklides pame sta ipoloipa ta opoia einai oi gnostoi mizadoroi lamogia tha lakisoun giati den tha iparxei marmita oi sindesmoi tha prepei na klisoun giath o laos tha sispirothei giro apo tin omada kai tha mporesoume na exoume ena sindesmo o opoios tha apartizete apo emas pou plironoume sindromh ston erasitexnei me parartimata se oloi tin elleda kai eyroph opou iparxei elliniko stoixeio me prooptikes epektaseis.  pisteyo oti ayto mas eksasfalizei dinamh psifou san opadous h kaliterei foni gia mena terma oi kareklokentayroi oloi tha ponane perisotero tin omada ghpedo gemato xoroigoi na kanoun oura marketing trelo kai tote pername h oxi se pagosmia vasei thn omada? ayta vevaios ola peroliptika ta grafo giath an epektatho perisotero me kovo na grafo vivlio.                                                                    ayta apo emena periliptika perimeno protaseis simpliromata diafonies ta gnosta kserete                                               O PAOK ANEIKH STO LAO TOU KAI OXI STON POUSTH TON PROEDRO TOU GIA MIA IDEA ZOUME AS THN KANOUME PAGOSMIA

[Passenger-4]

Kati paromoio nomizw oti proteinei o kalivas kai i thira 4..As fygei o mpatman kai pisteuw meta tha dromologithoun ekselikseis

[arafat4]

ALEX POLI KALI I PROTASI SOY....nomizw oti einai style barca etsi?
diafwnw omwsgia toys sindesmoys giati aftoi pada prepei na iparxoyn kai na einai anexartitoi apo tin dioikisi.
diafwnw me tis pronomioyxes metoxes giati den exasfalizoyn tipota.p.x. pernoume oloi metoxes kai eklegoyme 3 atoma sto simboylio ths pae kai 1 o erasitexnis ta ipoloipa 5 toy batman i opoioy batman...kai apofasizei o batman na ppoylisei ton okka ston gavro....me tin pleiopsifia twn 5 sto simboylio to kanei kai menoyme me tin poytsa kai tis pronomiakes metoxes sto xeri kai katariomaste toys pades gia ta lefta poy dwsame...diladi tha dwsoyme fraga gia na steiloyme 3 atoma apo toys sindesmoys na kikloforoyn olimeris sta grafeia ths pae xwris tin dinami na paroyn apofaseis na dioikisoyn na baloyn beto se kapoies apofaseis bre pedaki moy??OXI....tzapa lefta....xwris oysia...parolo poy tin paw me ta 1000 tin thira 4 den simfwnw me aftin tin skepsh giati einai anoysia....elegxo kai kritiki stin pae askoyme kai twra xwris omws na boroyme na kanoyme tipota...etsi tha ginete kai me tis pronomioyxes...an omws ta pragmata ginoyn opws eipe o alex mesw erasitexnh,i aliws oi pronomioyxes eklegoyn 4 i 5 melh kai exoyn tin dinatotita na askoyn dioikisi ...tote malista,,,,gia skefteite to paradeigmataki me ton okka kai tin friki poy tha fame se mia tetoia periptwsi!!!!

[ALEX]

Kati paromoio nomizw oti proteinei o kalivas kai i thira 4..As fygei o mpatman kai pisteuw meta tha dromologithoun ekselikseis

o kalivas protine agora metoxon pano kato 20% peripou ego leo simetoxoi oxi na stisoume laikh agora poulontas metoxes oi opoies den sou parexoun tipota oute kan fonh

[ALEX]

pros arafat: simfonoume einai ontos se still barcha oso gia tous sindesmous tha iparxei 1 enoiaios me parartimata opos na se po san tous ultras tis real ston opoio tha pernas aytomata me tin egrafei ston erasitexnei an vevaia to epithimhs kapos etsi an katalaves to theto kai pisteyo oti einai litourgiko kai pragmatopoiisimo

[PAOK_EDESSA]

KAI TO ONOMA TOU AGGELOPOULO AKOUSTIKE AFOU!!!!

NA DOUME TI THA GINEI!!!!


PAOKARA SAGAPO

[PITBULL]

MAGKES KRATHSTE THN PSYXRAIMIA SAS SE TETOIES STIGMES. O XRONOS 8A DIXEI...

[lemmy]

Σωστος ο Pitbull......

[PAOK_EDESSA]

E NA DOUME TI THA GINEI TELEUTEA!!!


PAOK OLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

OMOS OLO LENE KAI LENE!!!!

[ALEX]

an kai diafono me tin protasi kaliva(opos grafo pio pano)exoume kapia nea osoanafora tin arxi ttis ilopoihsis ayths ths ideas.
to proto vima arxizei na pernei sarka kai osta oso anafora tin egrisi tou katastatikou tou kinimatos/sindesmou(kapos) pou anamenete na oloklirothi kata ta telei apriliou(logia tou mokka) na anafero oti proegrafes ginontai eidh(xoris katathesi xrimaton pros to paron me elaxisth agora 4 metoxon aksias 60 euro)sti thira 4.
o sindesmos aytos pros stegazete sto gipedo tis toumpas ton xoro edose o erasitexnis kai arithmh 62 idritika meli(kalivas-apostolidis-zoze-lagogiannis merika apo ta idritika meli).
gia na parei sarka kai osta i idea ayth kai na arxisoun na diatithontai oi metoxes me to analogo timima mazi prepei na ginoun tropopoihsis sto katastatiko tou silogou omos me tin torini katastasi sta doihkitika tis omadaseinai adinato giati apetite doikitiko simvoulio gia na apartisi geniki sineleusikai na psifisth i tropopoihsi to katastatikou.
pano kato periliptika ayta einai ta teleutea nea osa mporo na thimitho perissotera ayth thn stigmi sinexizo na diafono me tin sigekrimenoi protasi giati me 20% pali enas san ton mpatman tha kanei koumanto gia oso goustarei oti kai na lene oi 3 eklegmenoi apo tous pronomoiouxos metoxous kai pisteuo oti pali mia apo ta idia tha exoume.

[maik.paok]

ke ego simfono me ton kaliba ala as perimenoume
pola akoume pola tha akousoume ke gia na doume telika
an i omadara mas pou agapame toso poli epitelous tha iremisi
ali lene oti mas prostateboun pou ego den to blepo
alilene  ke opos ine mas ehoun gamisi
paok se agapo

[MPAMPHS]

skopos eine na figi oso pio grigora o mpatman.poli sosti i protasi tou kaliva kai an to skeftoume logika  eine i moni lisi  giati opos vlepo ta pragmata diskola ta vreti agorastis tou PAOK .ta xreh eine terastia kai oso yparxei mpatman afksanonte kai plitinonte.as perimenoume na teliosi i fetini sezon ke vlepoume.sigoura ta vreti mia lisi .

MPAMPHS

[ALEX]

mia pou irthan oi kairoi sto kalokairi kai ta pragmata skourenan poli na to anevaso to topic kai na ta xoso kai ligo ston kaliva(gia to lakisma pou ekane prosfata prosopiki empathia me ton kaliva den exo) den mou les kaliva etoimazeis tin laiki agora na agorasoume metoxes kai kriftikes?

[nik4]

ALEX opos eides o kalybas paei na parei tis metoxes th deutera.K etsi opos phgan ta pragmata dikaiothike pou den hthele lysh protodikeiou.Oso gia tis metoxes pou proteine einai h monh lysh pou apemeine k tha proxorhsei eite symfonoume eite oxi.Alla thelo na ksero giati den sas ftanei to 20% k 3 atoma sto DS.Se kamia omada den dioikei o laos alla to na epiblepei ti ginete se ola ta themata opos problepete na ginei tha einai teleio.Eksalou den symfonoun oi syndesmoi apo monoi tous fantazese na exoun k thn pae?tha thn dialysoun!

[ALEX]

kaneis sindesmos den tha exei tin pae oloi tha psifizoun opoion theloun i pae kae kai ola ta tmimata tha einai dika mou dika sou olonon tha exeis tin dinami tis psifou prosopiki gnomi gia ta tektenomena tis omadas kai tha tin ekfrazeis meso tis psifou sou.
tora an kapios einai provato fito kai kanei oti tou lene oi sindesmoi den exei prosopikotita to atomo ayto den ftai kaneis gia ayto.an prosekses omos leo na ginei enas sindesmos me parartimata pantou terma oi diakosioi kai vale sindesmoi kai dostou ta mperdemata