Μετεγγραφική περίοδος 2004/2005

[stef]

kai gia na teleiono...
auto pou zitise EMMESA o Aggelos einai to exis aplo:

STIRIXTE TIN OMADA ,
STIRIXTE TOUS PAIXTES,
STIRIXTE TIN DIOIKISI.
ALLA STA DISKOLA (...giati 8a er8oun kai diskoles stigmes)
kai oxi aplos sta panigiria.
OI BASEIES BAINOUN.
ALLA OPOS BIKAN OI PROTES ETSI EUKOLA BOROUN NA
GREMISTOUN.
KAI OI PIO EPIKINDINOI GIA NA GREMISOUN AUTES TIS
BASEIS EINAI DISTIXOS O KOSMOS.
DIOTI STIN ANAGI TIS AMESIS EPITIXIAS DEN BOREI NA DEI
OTI O PAOK XTIZETAI SE MAKROPRO8ESMO PLANO.
SE ENA PLANO IGIAS.

p.s: xairetizo kai to stelexos (proin pleon) tis ADIDAS
(distixos mou diafeugei to onoma tou)
pou analambanei to Marketing tis PAE PAOK.
TETOIES KINISEIS 8ELOUME.

[gate4]

auto pou zitises file exei dimosieuthei sto board tis G4. kalo apogeuma.

ps; legetai papaiwannou an den kanw lathos, alla na ta leme oloklira oxi misa. ektos apo stelexos korufis tis adidas itan kai sto grafeio tou tsoxatzopoulou sto upourgeio amunas.

[stef]

kai ti simainei auto?
diladi entaxei gia tin ADIDAS EKANE KAI GIA TON PAOK
OXI..?
I KAI I ADIDAS BADIZEI SE MONOPATIA SKOTEINA
KAI PARAKMIS..

[Dragon4]

Simainei oti ektos apo petuximeno stelexos tis ADIDAS,eixe kai politiko bisma gia na analavei to marketing tou PAOK

Toso duskolo einai na to katalaveis!?

Telospantwn,egw thelw diafaneia opws oloi mas allwste,na mathw ti xrwstaei akribws i PAE kai pws programmatizei na APALLAGEI-SBHSEI auta ta xrei

Kai kati allo.....akouw oti i dioikisi evale lefta ki oti einai dikaio na ta parei pisw
Oxi kurioi.....proedros omadas tou megethous tou PAOK,simainei oti bazeis ki apo tin tsepi sou,giati kerdizeis pollaplasia se diafimisi-kuros-gnwrimies-pare dwse me to kratos

An den exeis na baleis,kai eisai PROSWRINI dioikisi,pare ta xrimata sou pisw,alla ksekoumpisou MOLIS BRETHEI DYNATOS AGORASTHS.....ki oxi na arakseis stin karekla giati glukathikes apo to oti 1 olokliros LAOS se exei anagki

[8emhs]

Kai kati allo.....akouw oti i dioikisi evale lefta ki oti einai dikaio na ta parei pisw
Oxi kurioi.....proedros omadas tou megethous tou PAOK,simainei oti bazeis ki apo tin tsepi sou,giati kerdizeis pollaplasia se diafimisi-kuros-gnwrimies-pare dwse me to kratos

An den exeis na baleis,kai eisai PROSWRINI dioikisi,pare ta xrimata sou pisw,alla ksekoumpisou MOLIS BRETHEI DYNATOS AGORASTHS.....ki oxi na arakseis stin karekla giati glukathikes apo to oti 1 olokliros LAOS se exei anagki

Egw diafwnw apoluta me auto pou grafeis! O PAOK 8a mporesei na ftasei pshla mono otan 8a mporesei na isoskelizei tous proupologismous tou. Oso 8a perimenoume ton megaloepixeirhmatia (poion alh8eia;;;; pou 8a er8ei kai 8a valei ta wraia tou leftoudakia me antallagma thn provolh/diafhmish/sxeseis me thn kuvernhsh, tote 8a volodernoume metaksu lamogiwn tupou Batman (sth xeiroterh) kai Kokkalh (sthn kaluterh). Ki egw oute Kokkalh 8elw, na mas kanei "futa" kai "skulakia" opws exoun katanthsei oi gauroi.  Aman epitelous me auth thn karamela me ton "DYNATO AGORASTH" !!!! Poios na einai autos epitelous; O Abramovic; Mhpws nomizete oti h 8essalonikh einai Londino; H mhpws nomizete oti arga h' grhgora kai ton Abramovic (pou sigoura kseplenei vrwmiko xrhma me thn Chelsea) 8a ton tsimphsei h eforia;  

[8emhs]

Kai duo logia gia th sunenteuksh tou Anastasiadh: apsogos. Ti allo na pw; Pera apo ka8ara proponhtikes ikanothtes (gia tis opoies o ka8enas mporei na exei oti apopsh 8elei) nomizw oti o PAOK exei auth th stigmh enan proponhth/manager se stul Agglias, o opoios kserei ti xreiazetai h omada kai kanonizei analoga me to budget tis metagrafikes ths kinhseis. Sumfwnw epishs apoluta me thn "sfixth" oikonomikh kai metagrafikh politikh. Den prepei na ksexname pou hmastan persi kai pws sw8hkame sto parapente apo thn katastrofh. Den prepei na ksexname epishs to polu xrhsimo paradeigma ths AEK (h opoia einai h omada me analogo "mege8os" me th dikh mas) h opoia persi katafere na mas parei thn 3h 8esh, katafere (duskola) na perasei stou "xrusoforous" omilous kai logw mias trelhs oikonomikhs politikhs me hxhres metagrafes vrisketai twra sto xeilos tou gkremou. Egw den to 8elw auto gia ton PAOK. "Ksekollate" loipon me tis metagrafes. 8a ginoun oses prepei, otan prepei kai me METRO. To ksanaeipa: Tsiartes kai loipous pou pairnoun dekaplasia apo ta upoloipa paidia kai 8a diataraksoun to klima ths omadas sta apoduthria, den prokeitai kai den prepei na paroume kai osoi den to katalavainete, eiste va8ia nuxtwmenoi. Epishs den eida ton en8ousiasmo pou armozei gia tis ananewseis twn paiktwn: Egkwmiths, Markos, Zavantias, Toxouroglou, Fuechini, Hagan, Karadhmos, kai Spasic ananewsan oloi mesa se 3 meres!!! Enw persi den prolavainame na metrhsoume autous pou efeugan! Alla oxi: twra mas murizei o enas, mas vrwmaei o allos... Na diwksoume ton Karadhmo leei o enas, na diwksoume kai ton Atmatsidh leei o allos. Kai poion na feroume re, ton Roberto Carlos;;;;;;;;     Tou xronou (an me to kalo perasoume stous omilous) 8a paizoume Tetarth-Kuriakh sunexeia. Xreiazomaste BA8OS ston pagko. Lefta polla gia hxhres metagrafes den exoume. Opote, an den krathsoume ta paidia auta pou mas eferan ws edw douleuontas stis duskoles stigmes, kai meta na pros8esoume 2-3 kommatia epipleon, pws 8a kator8wsoume na ftiaksoume ena dunato sunolo; An diwksoume 5-6 "axrhstous" paiktes opws fwnazoun polloi, pou 8a vroume ta lefta na agorasoume kai vasikous kai anaplhrwqmatikous gia na tous antikatasthsoume; Mpas kai exei kamia kota pou gennaei xrusa auga sta grafeia ths PAE kai den to katalava; Auta....

P.S. Mou arese auto pou eipe o Aggelos gia filika me megales gallikes omades!  

[jmjyiannis]

8emi eisai apla.... apsogos. pragmatika poli oraia ta les.

auto omos pou me anisixei, to eixa pei kai se porigoumeno post, einai oti to sentoni thelei paixtes me empeiria sta europaika ektos apo to poli kalo sinolo. Autoi oi empeiroi omos....eite kostizoun eite einai poli megaloi kai de ftourane alla opos kai na xei..... me tetoia sinenteuksi tipou.... eisai an miti allo poli iremos gia tis epiloges tou proponiti.

Alitheia, auto ton Minx poso ton eixe parei o Vazelos? kalo paixtroni.

[stef]

kalispera PAOKARES olis tis gis .
Dragon4 nai ...oraia exei politiko bisma ........
e pes mou esei to stelexos tis inter tis Milan tou Pao tis
Athletiko i tis Barca den exei analogo politiko bisma..?
i mono o PAOK exei tin apokleistikotita..??
8a trela8oume entelos.
diladi ton pirame ton sigkekrimeno , oxi bebaia
gia tis organotikes tou ikanotites(alloste xazi einai i adidas)
alla logo politikou bismatos.
otna se ollo ton kosmo to idio akrivos simbainei.
i mipos nomizei kapios to anti8eto..

kai i plaka einai oti anefer8ikame se toso alla pragmata
kai o ka8enas i o kapios emeine an exei o sigkekrimenos
bisma i oxi .
auto einai to ousiodes diladi??

[Londrezos]

Ta LOGIA toy Aggelou htan pragmatika food for thoughts...
Egw de 8a mpw se intrigkes kai tsakwmous alla 8a diafwnhsw merikws me thn Gate-4. Symfwnw oti xreiazetai ousiastika kshlwma olh h 8yra 4 (ki oxi mono) kai epanakataskeyh alla proswpika 8ewrw eksisou shmantikh th dhmiourgia enos sygxronoy proponhtikoy kentroy.
Opws 8a gnwrizete o proedros ths PAE einai politikos mhxanikos kai owner ths etairias PAGWNHS ATE. Synepws h ekkinhsh diadikasiwn gia to xtisimo enos proponhtikoy kentroy de 8a htan kati dyskolo gia ayton pera fysika toy oikonomikou.

Oson afora ton Papaiwannou as ma8ei kapoios poy proskeintai oi Goumenos-Pagwnhs (GP) kai 8a katalavei oti den epaikse toooso rolo to gegonos oti o en logw kyrios htan sto politiko grafeio toy Tsoxatzopoulou...

Emena mou aresei poy oi GP to paizoun se diplo tabloid...

[bane]

ωραιος ο θεμης .λοιπον αφηστε τον αγγελο .να κανουμε την προσευχη μας που τον εχουμε. αν δεν ειχαμε αυτον απο περυσι και ειχαμε κανα πουστη σερβο θα σας ελεγα που θα ημασταν . εμεις ; η θεση μας στην κερκιδα μαζικα και οργανωμενα. ολα τα αλλα στον αγγελο

[gate4]

den blepw na diafwneis kai pouthena, afou loipon einai owner kai mixanikos giati den ekane toulaxiston ti meleti. o proponitis tous exei deiksei to xwro apo persu kai i topiki koinwnia molis to emathe egine paniguri, o proedros tis koinotitas tous edwse kai ta diplana xwrafia. auto rwtaw, giati den egine tipota akoma.
to 1M euro prepei na paei apokelistika stin anakainisi tis G4, an uponoeis na paroun lefta apo ekei kai na ta riksoun allou, diafwnw KATHETA. auta ta lefta ta exoume xrusoplirwsei sto dimosio. oloi emeis pou gennithikame kai sunexizoume ekei mesa exoume kathe dikaiwma na blepoume ton PAOK apo mia anakainismeni kai asfali G4. giati me 1M euro i G4 ginetai koukla. kai kaneis DEN THA MAS TO STERISEI AYTO. autoi exoun kainourio ktirio 3000m2 na ekmettaleutoun kai xwrous pou tha stoixisoun 10M+ euro. as pesei kai 1M gia ta paidia tou katwterou Theou.

[tomkar]

giati me 1M euro i G4 ginetai koukla. kai kaneis DEN THA MAS TO STERISEI AYTO. autoi exoun kainourio ktirio 3000m2 na ekmettaleutoun kai xwrous pou tha stoixisoun 10M+ euro. as pesei kai 1M gia ta paidia tou katwterou Theou.

katwterou theou de les tipota..
thymamai prin 4 xronia pou hmoun akoma Ellada kai eixan vapsei (tromara tous) apo eksw olo to gipedo ektos fysika apo 4 kai 4a!!! sou leei st' arxidia mas, oti kai na tous kaneis aytoi einai arrwstoi.. tha rthoun sto gipedo..

[Londrezos]

Kalws h kakws h 8ura-4 einai h pio zhmiarikh 8yra tou ghpedou. De gnwrizw ti meletes exoun ginei alla nomizw (dior8wse me an kanw la8os) h anakataskeyh ths 1-2-3 mazi me thn egkatastash kainoyrgioy xlootaphta ginontai sta plaisia ths xrhmatodothshs gia stadia poy 8a xrhsimopoih8oun en' opsh twn Olumpiakwn agwnwn. An to xronodiagramma ergasiwn egine epi dioikhshs GP tote exeis 100% dikio.8a eprepe na riksoun varos kai sthn anakataskeyh ths G4.
Oson afora to oikopedo ktlp xwros mporei na yparxei. Mhpws prepei na entax8ei kai ayto se kapoia erga dhmosioy xarakthra dioti pros to paron de vlepw ta xrhmata ta opoia 8a dw8oun gia to xtisimo aytou toy kentrou. Synepws mhpws panw apo ola einai kai oikonomiko to 8ema???

[gate4]

file to na kaneis se prwti fasi 1-2 gipeda kai ena duo ktismata kai na metafereis oti exeis stin eukarpia, den einai eksodo panw apo 300K euro. antitheta to na sunexizeis stin eukarpia einai ekseutelismos gia to Sullogo.
ki egw se lew to allo. me ti boithea touTheou pas stous omilous, kai erxontai na se kanoun afierwma, molis pane stin eukarpia tha fugoun trexontas. se ekeina ta parapigmata pou ta exei xrewmena o bat kai o AS PAOK apo 100M drx to ena. einai kseftila gia to Sullogo den to katalabainete?
exete paei pote stin eukarpia na deite pou kanei proponisi i omada sas?
kai poion paixti na fereis kai pou na ton pas? na kanei proponisi sto xwrafi tis eukarpias me tous thamnous kai ta agkathia kai o boulinos na se apeilei kathe 3 kai ligo me ekswsi?
dekton na min ginoun metagrafes. na pane ekei ta lefta. alla na pane. afou ta dinoume pou ta dinoume, na min pane ston kathe tsiarta alla na pane ekei.

[gate4]

η περιοχή που έχει προτείνει ο  Αναστασιάδης είναι η Περιστερά, πάνω από τη Σουρωτή, στο βουνό του Χορτιάτη. κάντε μια βόλτα να δείτε σε τι γήπεδο παίζει η ομάδα του χωριού εκεί και μετά πάτε να δείτει και την Ευκαρπία που κάνει προπόνηση ο ΠΑΟΚ. και μετά ξανασυζητάμε.

[Matador]

Proponhthrio re paidia, to basikotero ean 8eleis na legesai h na gineis megalh omada. 5-6 ghpeda, paidakia, efhboi, b΄omada, tournoua, lagwnika gia na broun talenta kai na ta feroun na proponh8oun se an8rwpines synt8ikes. Organwsh xreiazetai kai lefta fysika. Ean hdh yparxei o xwros, opws anafer8ike, nomizw oti prepei na proxwrhsei me 1-2 ghpeda sthn arxh kai ta alla sthn diarkeia, h arxh omws prepei na ginei edw kai twra. Nomizw oti auto exei pei o Aggelos kai exei afhsei na uponoh8ei se polles synenteykseis tou.

Oso gia to ghpedo ths Toumpas, gnwmh mou einai oti prepei na arxisoume na apaitoume, dynamika pleon gia gremisma kai ktisimo ths Toumpas apo thn arxh. Oxi alla sobatismata er paidia. Symfonw na ginoun ergasies gia thn asfaleia, sygkekrimena ths 8yras 4, pros to paron alla o stoxos mas 8a prepei na einai to kainourgio ghpedo. Gia na to apaithsoume prepei na dosoume kati sthn koinwnia ths polhs kai ayto 8a ginei ean prospa8hseis na sykentrwseis dekades-ekatontades paidakia. Molis dei o goneas, o dhmos, o nomarxhs o opoiosdhpote telos pantwn oti pragmati kati sobaro ginetai ston Paok, 8a treksoun kai oi sponsores kai oi diaforoi "leftades" ths polhs gia enisxysh kai exontas pollous apo aytous pisw sou 8a apaithseis kai kainourgio ghpedo.

Poly swsto ayto pou eipw8ike oti ean perasoume se omilous kai kanei kanena kseno kanali reportaz apo thn Eykarpia, 8a gelasei kai to pardalo katsiki.......kai na exei o reporter kai kamia eykoilia (o 8eos na ton fylaei) e tote 8a anarrwtietai ean brisketai se xwra ths eyrwpaikhs koinothtas h sthn......
Ruanda(prosballw kai thn polypat8h aythn xwra).

Etsi einai h zwh, dineis kai pairneis oti se analogei den mporeis mono na pairneis.

[pavlosk]

Oi dikes mou parathrhseis se oti afora toulaxiston tis ananewseis:
Ean o anastasiadhs kai h dioikhsh kat entolh tou, ananewnoun sumbolaia mono kai mono epeidh tha einai krima oi paiktes pou evgalan ton PAOK sta prokrimatika na mhn einai sthn omada tote den pame kala.
Ean nomizei o aggelos oti o karadhmos kai kathe karadhmos tha vohthisei ousiastika tote POLY KALA kanoun kai ananewnoun ta sumbolaia.
Egw apla den thelw na ginei opws sto pagosmio opou o alketas pire mazi paiktes mono kai mono epeidh eixan voithisei stous prokrimatikous!!
Ta apotelesmata gnwsta sto pagosmio......!!!

Epishs ean ginoun metagrafes -pou kata thn gnwmh mou prepei na ginoun- tote h epilogh safws den einai h karadhmos h roberto carlos anamesa sthn klash autwn sigoura yparxoun 100des paiktes pou tha tairiasoun sthn filosofia tou PAOK. Kaneis den einai paralogos na zhtaei ton super star sthn omada pou tha pairnei trelo xrhma kai tha anatinaksei tis isoropies. Omws me fetino meso oro hlikias ths omadas pou epaize kai oxi to roster ligo katw apo ta 30, safws kai den tha anteksoume paixnidia tetarth-kyriakh.


Gia ta dioikhtika kai ta athlitika kentra kai anakainiseis ghpedwn auta einai psila grammata kai ston PAOK egw prwsopika pisteuw oti pote den prokeitai na ginoun.
O PAOK se olous tous tomeis dioikhshs einai mirkomesaia omada kai den egw den vlepw kapoion na thelei na allaksei to skhniko.

A kai kati teleutaio, einai krima gia ton anastasiadh ton idio, na asxoleitai kai me dhmiourgies athlitikwn kentrwn kai me organwsh kai kai kai. Sigoura tha hmastan poly kalyteroi ean o anastasiadhs tha mporouse na afwsiwthei sto ergo tou pou den einai allo apo to na PROPONEI kai na DHMIOURGEI OMADA me olh th shmasia ths leksews.

pavlosk

[AK4]

A kai kati teleutaio, einai krima gia ton anastasiadh ton idio, na asxoleitai kai me dhmiourgies athlitikwn kentrwn kai me organwsh kai kai kai. Sigoura tha hmastan poly kalyteroi ean o anastasiadhs tha mporouse na afwsiwthei sto ergo tou pou den einai allo apo to na PROPONEI kai na DHMIOURGEI OMADA me olh th shmasia ths leksews.

pavlosk

Bull's eye,file pavlosk !!!

[HOMOPAOKUS]

η περιοχή που έχει προτείνει ο  Αναστασιάδης είναι η Περιστερά, πάνω από τη Σουρωτή, στο βουνό του Χορτιάτη. κάντε μια βόλτα να δείτε σε τι γήπεδο παίζει η ομάδα του χωριού εκεί και μετά πάτε να δείτει και την Ευκαρπία που κάνει προπόνηση ο ΠΑΟΚ. και μετά ξανασυζητάμε.

Prin kana 2 mhnes akoysa to Dhmarxo na einai poly 8etikos sthn prooptikh ayth, malista epibebaiose kapoia syzhthsh me Anastasiadh. Omos eipe oti parolo poy oi topikes arxes kai h koinonia einai 8etikoi sthn prooptikh ayth, yparxoyn ena soro grafeikratika empodia poy prepei na kseperastoyn. Einai dhladh mia diadikasia poy apaitei xrono. O logos einai oti emplekontai polloi foreis p.x Kthmatologio, Poleodomia klp

[HOMOPAOKUS]

Protash:
Trexoyn polla topics me megalo endiaferon. Akoygontai diafores apopseis, ginetai kritikh - POLLES FORES OKSEIA-se oloys kai se ola. Se ligo san gnhsioi PAOKtshdes-Galates 8a arxisoyme na malonoyme, na vrizomaste klp. H protash moy loipon leei to ekshs:Olo to kalokairi as diafonoyme, as katiniazoyme as plakonomaste. Ektos pantos apo kritikh na kanoyme kai protaseis. Isos etsi bgei kati kalo. OTAN OMOS FTASEI 5-6 AYGOYSTOY SAN GNHSIOI PAOKTSHDES-GALATES POY EIMASTE, NA MONIASOYME OLOI, NA AGKALIASTOYME, NA KSEXASOYME OTI EGINE KAI NA PAME NA PLAKOSOYME TOYS ROMEOYS, eee.. ennooysa NA PAME NA STHRIKSOYME THN OMADA THN EPOMENH XRONIA. NA TO YPOSXE8OYME OLOI AYTO.