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eina olofanero  oti vriskomaste se nea epohi.
tha xekinhsw anapoda. prin diavasete omws na sas pw na mi viastite n vgalete simperasmata,min arhisoun merikoi pali ta gnwsta oti twra pou eimaste sta panw mas psahnomaste kai kanoume kako stin omada  kai tetoies malakies, kaneis den psahnete , milame gia pragmata pou ginane kai den mporei na ta amfisvitisei kaneis, opws kaneis den mporei na mas ypoxrewsei na ginoume marionetes sto theatro pou paizetai

perisi tetoia epohi...

o PAOK xrwstouse peri ta 5 dis ... o batman mia itan poulaw mia den poulaw... sto metaxi feuvgoun apo tin omada oi gnwstoi pou fugane na min ta xanalame,  kapaki emfanizete o goumenos me ta lefta pou kerdise sto loto kai linei prwsorina ta provlimata toy PAOK exasfalizontas tin simetohi tou sto prwtathlima.koutsa koutsa afou fygane osoi vrikane allou omada mas menoyne me to 1/3 twn xrimatwn pou pernane oi palioi kai anevenoyn apo tin erasitaehniki 7-8 paiktes. Kanoume kai kapies metagrafes nearwn me bajet 150.00 euro  kai pame proetimasia .
klirwsh toy prwtathlimatos kai prwth agwnistiki me gavro keklismenwn... olos o kosmos tou PAOK fwnazei ektos apo tin dioikhsh.

o kosmos me to myalo sto na fygei o batman ehei mpei pleon sti logiki tou na haramisthei mia xronia  na fygei o karkinos kai meta vlepoume, afou xeirotera den ginete
apo mme topika kaliergite ston kosmo i idea oti tin omada tin pirane sta heria tous paoktsides , prwsopika gia prwth fora vlepw na mi trwne polemo apo fulades kai radia dioikountes tou PAOK.
O aggelos einai katholikis apodohis apo ton kosmo kai stin ousia autos pou stirizei tin omada kai tin dioikhsh.

Sta agwnistika oti leei o aggelos ginete.. i omada thelei xrono... meta apo 2-3 mines xwris na paizei mpala pairnei apotelesmata. SIga siga paizei kai ligo mpalitsa kerdizei kai ton gavro kai arxizoun ta paramilita gia prwtathlimata ktl.
fisiologika xefouskwnoume sto telos parola ayta kratame tin triti thesh logw kektimenis tahititas kai aniparxias twn allwn.

fetos itan i monadiki xronia pou i omada den eihe anhos , den piestike apo ton kosmo kai tautoxrona vgike kai prwth se eisitiria, o kosmos tin stirixe kai itan pio wrimos apo pote.
gia emena ekei ofeilete kata 90% i epitihia, ekei panw pathse o aggelos kai ekane omada ton PAOK.
den einai apokistikh epitihia oyte toy aggeloy ,oyte twn paiktwn oyte toy kosmoy. kai poly perisotero tis dioikhshs.
vghkame cl logw sigiriwn , eleipsh tritou, kai ayto to deihnei kai i terastia diafora pou ehei i aek apo olympiako- panathinaiko. Apo ekei kai pera pragmata  pou nomizame to kalokairi oti tha mas pane pisw mas voithisan... To oti i omada epeze gia ta 2/3 tou prwtathlimatos xwris anhos einai to simantikotero olwn. Xeroume kala ti pathainei o PAOK otan paizei me anhos, ehoume hasei prwtathlimata, kipela exodous cl , pote den kataferame na shkwsoume san omada to varos kai to anhos pou dimiourgei o kosmos pou ehei megales apaithseis... kai den tha alaxei  pote ayto an den paixoune ston PAOK paiktes antaxioi twn prosdokiwn pou pou dhmiourgountai apo ton kosmo, oso talantouxi ki an einai oi pitsirikades oso terastios proponitis kai an einai o aggelos. me  pordes omada den kaneis.

Stis meres mas twra, enw genika den pairnw efimerides kai ayto giati den prolavanw na tis diavasw, edw kai mia edvomada pairnw ta spor kathimerina, kathe mera ..ma kathe mera apo tis 4 selides pou ehoun gia ton PAOK stis 3 grafoune
gia tin anagh tou PAOK na krathsei tous paiktes pou ehei me akoma hamilotera simvolaia, kai na min anoixtei se metagrafes.
milame re mages ama pareis ta fyla ena ena to copy paste den pianei mia ... kathe mera ta idia kai ta idia , pairnw kai xnanpairnw tin skatofulada na dw pote tha stamathsoun tin plisi egefalou.
A nai, tynhanei vevaiws oloi oi dimosiografoi na ehoun koinh grami sto thema pou efaptete me ayth twn dioikountwn kai tou aggelou. Xafnika diladh gia prwth fora sta xronika oi efimerides den kanoun kako ston PAOK alla ta vriskoun ola wraia kai kala. vre pws wrimasame fetos oloi...ti wraia....
Kathe mera olo kai kapios 30+ kleinei ston paok gia alla 1+1 xronia kai o dimosiografiskos to kanei prwtoselido...
den tha ginoun leei metagrafes, tha ftiaxoume omada...

nai re mages , edw mesa to ehw pei poles fores den me noiazei to gamhmeno to cl pros to paron, ki egw omada thelw na ftiaxoume ki as min vgainoume oyte uefa 2 xronia. alla rwtaw , etsi ginontai oi omades? xerete eseis kanenan pou na ekane omada xwris lefta? xerete kamia omada pou na thelei na paixei prwtagwnistiko rolo me baget to ena eikosto twn antagwnistwn tis?

sta logia ola kala einai kai oso douleuoune ta mme kai o aggelos gia tous pagwnidogoumenous  akoma kalitera giati to trwei to paramithi  kai o kosmos.
to fetino bajet einai akoma pio hamilo apo to persino, milame gia bajet ionikou kai akrathtou kai oxi omadas san ton PAOK.
oikonomia kai litotita stin pae.... afou sinithise o kosmos kai den fwnazei pelon gia metagrafes kai vgainoume kai cl malakes einai na alaxoun kai ama kati den paei kala na trehoun/?

akougete oti ta diarkias tha paizoun 40-50% pio panw kai oti den tha ehei mesa ta mats tou cl...
a tha ehoume kai 15 soutes tou xronou, kati akousa gia 1500 euro auto de me noaizei kai poly giati xerw oti den tha to plirwsei o kosmakis, as tis valoune kai 3000 to mats kai makari na tis pairnoune na konomane oi ligourides.
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twra auta peri paoktsidwn ktl as ta poune allou, poloi itane kai o voulinos PAOKtshs itane kai malista poly perisotero apo aytous. kai o froutemporas akomi pio poly kai apo to voulino kai apo polous apo emas... den vgainei akri etsi... o kathenas krinete,kaneis den prepei na einai sto apirovlito ,einai akrws epikindino auto.

emena den mou aresoun kapoia pragmata kai ta lew, an perisi tetoia epohi tous edwse o theios ta fraga, kai pistepsane me ayta ta lefta tha anasthsoun ton paok , xalafrwnontas tautoxrona tin omada apo ta megala simvolaia auto den einai kai toso kako... kako omws kai megalo malista einai na douleueis ton kosmo meta apo ena xrono paristanontas mera nixta ton swthra me tis plates kai tis avantes pou den eihe pote kanenas pou dioikouse ton PAOK.
kai epeidh den mporw na apodeixw apo edw mesa pws edwse ta fraga o theios napiasoume kai tin alli periptwsh...
tote einai akoma pio poustiko ayto pou kanane, afou afhsane ton PAOK na dialithei gia na analavoun kameni gh, kai ws gnwston to kameno fwtia xana den pairnei, apo ton pato mono pros ta panw pas pio katw den ehei. xehasa, swsane tin omada apo tin g ethniki re, einai kai auto... bravo tous... kala pou htane ki autoi alliws twra tha paizame me ton fwsthra...

Etsi ginomouna kai egw proedros ston PAOK, kai o misos kosmos tou PAOK. Xwris na valoun lefta me to 1/10 twn exodwn pou eihe alles xronies i omada me rithmiseman ta xreh kai me 100% thetikous apologismous gia ta epomena xronia.
Me proponiti pou kanei hilies doihkitikes douleies mesa stin omada kai tous anoigei ta matia ekei pou ehoun autoi mesanixta..tous kathise kai to cl kai twra pios tous pianei... kai emas pios mas xipnaei apo ta oneira...
koitame  panta to simera ma pote to aurio, simera eimaste kala opws leei o aggelos kai ehei o theos gia aurio...

to xerw oti merikous mporei na sas stenahwroun ayta kai na min thelete na ta dextite, i alitheia ponaei merikes fores kai emena poy ta lew kai ta pisteuw me ponaei epishs alla ti  na kanoume... ehw faei toso papa stin zwh mou apo tin tyfli mou agapi gia ton PAOK pou den paei allo.

den me peirazei pleon pou einai ayth i katastash giati pisteuw oti eimaste axioi tis moiras mas ... auto mas axizei ayto pairnoume , san paoktsides kai san ellines...
kai einai tetoio to epipedo genikotera stin ellada pou to na milame gia  ygeih swmatia sto podosfairo einai trela... opios vgainei kai leei oti tha kanw omada i lamogio einai i den xerei ti tou ginete...


ps. telika me ayta ta lefta tou alpha pou o  batman ypexerese apo ton PAOK ti skata ginete? giati i omada me ayta ta fraga swnotane kai evgaine kai apo panw xwris swthres... alla etsi einai ola ehoun to timima tous

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Ti proteineis; As poume oti dexomaste auta pou grafeis, ti proteineis ws enallaktikh lush;

1. Na kanoume polemo sth dioikhsh;
2. Na kanoume apoxh apo to ghpedo;
3. Na psaksoume to "megalo ependuth" pou 8a dwsei ston PAOK "th dunamikh pou aksizei ston terastio lao tou" mpla, mpla, mpla...
4. Na kanoume megales metagrafes (p.x. Tsiartas) kai meta me mia nila sta prokrimatika tou CL na trexoume kai na mh ftanoume gia na kseplhrwnoume ta panakriva sumvolaia;

Egw pantws den katalavainw ti proteineis. Ki egw protimaw na paizoume me Zidane kai Figo para me Zavantia kai Karadhmo. Alla de ginetai. Kai protimw budget Iwnikou an prokeitai na exoume 8etiko proupologismo kai na mh xrwstame kai sthn koutsh Maria. Kai o kosmos twra prepei na sthriksei thn omada. Dhladh ti perimenei gia na thn sthriksei na ginoun oi megales metagrafes kai meta na paei sto ghpedo; 8umasai poios mas ekane tis teleutaies megales metagrafes. O Batman fusika....

tiore

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diladi kaneis den mporei na katalavei ti leme edw pera?
lew re file themi pouthena na min stirixoume tin omada?
mipws lew gia apohi ktl? esy ta les ayta... pali lathos ermineuontai ayta pou grafw... pes kati apo ola ayta pou den einai alitheia, kati pou esy eheis alli apopsi kai na to sizitisoume, den vlepw omws kati tetoio, apo tin mia den sholiazeis tipota, ara gnwrizeis kai katalavaineis oti einai alitheia kai apo tin alli omws antidras me mia logiki pou emena prwsopika den mou arkei... to na min kaneis tipota einai allo thema kai allo einai na min vlepeis kai na min katalavaineis ti dialo paizete i estw na mi thes na deis kai na katalaveis...
to ti protheseis ehei ayth i dioikhsh kai pws pire ton PAOK egw file to xerw, ... twra an epeidh vgike cl i omada nomizeis oti prepei na min milame paw paso... ama halame ton ypno se merikous kai tous kovoume ta oneira pou vlepoun as valoune otosapides sta autia tous na min akoune


« Last Edit: May 25, 2004, 21:33:12 by tiore »

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Ti proteineis; As poume oti dexomaste auta pou grafeis, ti proteineis ws enallaktikh lush;

1. Na kanoume polemo sth dioikhsh;
2. Na kanoume apoxh apo to ghpedo;
3. Na psaksoume to "megalo ependuth" pou 8a dwsei ston PAOK "th dunamikh pou aksizei ston terastio lao tou" mpla, mpla, mpla...
4. Na kanoume megales metagrafes (p.x. Tsiartas) kai meta me mia nila sta prokrimatika tou CL na trexoume kai na mh ftanoume gia na kseplhrwnoume ta panakriva sumvolaia;

Egw pantws den katalavainw ti proteineis. Ki egw protimaw na paizoume me Zidane kai Figo para me Zavantia kai Karadhmo. Alla de ginetai. Kai protimw budget Iwnikou an prokeitai na exoume 8etiko proupologismo kai na mh xrwstame kai sthn koutsh Maria. Kai o kosmos twra prepei na sthriksei thn omada. Dhladh ti perimenei gia na thn sthriksei na ginoun oi megales metagrafes kai meta na paei sto ghpedo; 8umasai poios mas ekane tis teleutaies megales metagrafes. O Batman fusika....


file basika o tiore den se  proteinei tipota apo ta parapanw, den grafei pouthena kati tetoio. apla se perigrafei mia katastasi. den se eipe oute na fugei o goumenos, oute oti o aggelos den einai kalos proponitis kai PAOKtsis, oute tipota apo ola auta pou anakalupses esu.
apla se perigrafei mia katastasi.

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@tiore diavase th synenteykh poy edwse o Aggelos shmera. Pistevw oti 8a vreis polles apanthseis kai polla endiaferonta pragmata...

H alh8eia mporei na ponaei alla alh8eia einai kai to oti o PAOK vghke tritos enw akoma xrwstaei ta malliokefala toy...

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τιορε για πιο πρωταθλημα μιλας ; πια ανυπαρξια αλλων ; ουτως η΄αλλως ολοι καποια ανυπαρξια αλλων βρισκουν και πανε ψηλα. θεωρεις πρωταθλημα να εχει ο βαζελος  25-4-1 ;οι αλλοι τι κανουνε ;τοσο σταθερος ειναι ο βαζελος σε μια περιοδο 9 μηνων ; κοιλια δεν κανει ; τα ιδια και ο γαβρος .μηπως παιξανε αυτοι οι δυο καλυτερα απο εμας φετος ;οχι βεβαια ; αλλα να παρουν το πρωταθλημα αυτο και να το βαλουν στον πατο τους .προεδροι που κοιτανε μονο τα εισητηρια , ομαδες που ανοιγουν τα ποδια τους σε αυτους τους δυο και τελειωνουν ακου ,ακου τη σεζον με μια ηττα ;;ειναι φυσιολογικο αυτο ; σιγα την ομαδα του βαζελου . γιγα τον γαβρο .για μενα ο ΠΑΟΚ εσκασε τον τελευταιο μηνα . δεν ειχε παγκο .και οσοι κανανε καλη χρονια περυσι φετος ηταν τραυματιες .ητανε θαυμα το φετινο .μην τα ξαναλεμε .3 αγωνιστικες πριν το τελος και η διαφορα μας με τον γαβρο ηταν το χαμενο πεναλτυ του γιασεμη .με ολα αυτα που τραβηξαμε φετος
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kanenas den eipe na min perimenoume, ennoeitai. alla oxi kai opoios exei mia diaforetiki apopsi einai anthugeiinos. den leei etsi.

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ετσι ειναι .εγω δεν διαφωνω. παντως το καλο ειναι οτι τον ΠΑΟΚ μας τον ονειρευομαστε σωστα τελικα και θετικα. μπραβο μας .
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tiore

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bane grameno to ehw to prwtathlima tou kolou pou paizoune 14 omades tis athinas...

egw epiklentrwnomai ston tropo kai stis protheseis tis dioikhshs kiriws, giati poly eukola xehname merika pragmata.

kai einai kai alla pola ma para pola pou ehw na grapsw gia na katalavoun merikoi oti den alaxe tipota... tespa prepei na fygw twra tha ta poume argotera


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και εγω εχω να γραψω αλλα γραφω απο την δουλεια οποτε μπορω και το κακο ειναι οτι ιντερνετ εχουμε μεχρι τις 22:00 με τον μαλακα τον αντμινιστρατορη. τα λεμε αυριο μαγκες
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και εγω εχω να γραψω αλλα γραφω απο την δουλεια οποτε μπορω και το κακο ειναι οτι ιντερνετ εχουμε μεχρι τις 22:00 με τον μαλακα τον αντμινιστρατορη. τα λεμε αυριο μαγκες

αντμινιστρατορη... ti einai pali ayto re palikare? o amdin sta italika einai?

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ante pali arhisame
diladi kaneis den mporei na katalavei ti leme edw pera?
lew re file themi pouthena na min stirixoume tin omada?
mipws lew gia apohi ktl? esy ta les ayta... pali lathos ermineuontai ayta pou grafw... pes kati apo ola ayta pou den einai alitheia, kati pou esy eheis alli apopsi kai na to sizitisoume, den vlepw omws kati tetoio, apo tin mia den sholiazeis tipota, ara gnwrizeis kai katalavaineis oti einai alitheia kai apo tin alli omws antidras me mia logiki pou emena prwsopika den mou arkei... to na min kaneis tipota einai allo thema kai allo einai na min vlepeis kai na min katalavaineis ti dialo paizete i estw na mi thes na deis kai na katalaveis...
to ti protheseis ehei ayth i dioikhsh kai pws pire ton PAOK egw file to xerw, ... twra an epeidh vgike cl i omada nomizeis oti prepei na min milame paw paso... ama halame ton ypno se merikous kai tous kovoume ta oneira pou vlepoun as valoune otosapides sta autia tous na min akoune




Katarxhn den eipa oti den mporeis na exeis thn apopsh sou kai na th les, opws oloi mas. Opws epishs den eipa oti esu proteines tipota apo auta pou egrapsa ws paradeigmata. Alla polu apla, den proteines tipota. Kalh h kritikh alla otan proteinetai kai kapoia enallaktikh lush, alliws einai steira. Oso gi'auta pou les, de nomizw oti einai se genikes grammes swsta. Merika nai, alla oxi ola. Les oti ananewnoun polloi 30+ paiktes. Kai; Allaksan oi epoxes, oi podosfairistes de stamatane pleon sta 30 tous. Alla exoume kai pollous neous paiktes pou vghkan siga-siga fetos. O Baggelhs einai neos. O Kontewn kai o Karupidhs epishs. Kai o Koutsopoulos. Kai o Salpiggidhs (sxetika). Den einai ki asxhma. Gia to budget ta exw ksanagrapsei, egw th 8ewrw swsth politikh. Gia ta Spor, entaksei auta einai ta Spor, twra 8a ta ma8oume; Apo thn allh, mhpws protimas na einai oles oi a8lhtikes efhrides opws h kataptusth Alhtikh pou kanei olofanero polemo sunexeia; Gia ta agwnistika de se katalavainw. Eilikrina ti 8a h8eles; Kata 90% lesa phgame kala giati den eixame agxos!!! Kala, auto prepei na einai pagkosmia prwtotupia ws apopshs! An isxuei, tote bravo mas, afou kseperasame alles omades me ligotero agxos opws h Xalkhdona kai to Aigalew. Mhn trela8oume kiolas! Nai, h omada den epaikse sthn arxh polu kalh mpala, alla einai apoluta fusiologiko gia mia omada pou exase 5-6 BASIKOTATA stelexh apo thn 11ada ths. Ki o Pana8hnaikos pou telika phre to prwta8lhma sthn arxh den epaize kala afou eixe ki autos kainouria omada. Oso gia thn ...anuparksia twn allwn, kata auth th logikh kai to prwta8lhma tou 85 to phrame giati o vazelos htan pesmenos, k.o.k. O ka8enas ekmetalleutai sto podosfairo tis adunamies tou allou, logiko kai 8emito einai. Kai h AEK ekmetalleuthke persi tis dikes mas adunamies kai vghke 3h enw emeis eixame 8ewrhtika kaluterh omada. Ti na kanoume dhladh; Prepei na apologh8ei h omada gi'auto; Twra, gia thn pio sovarh kathgoria gia to "8eio" klp., thn akoume xronia auth thn karamela, kai epi Batman kai twra pou efuge o Batman. An ksereis kati parapanw, an exeis apodeikseis pes to, alliws ston aera einai eukolo na milame kai na kanoume upo8eseis. Twra, to an perimenan na fugoun oi prwtoklassatoi kai meta na mpoun sta pragmata, auto nai, einai polu pi8anon, twra to an einai mempto h' logiko, den kserw. Katarxhn uphrxan paiktes opws o Koukelka h' Okkas pou htan apofasismenoi na fugoun etsi ki alliws. O Kafes kalutera pou efuge htan polu akrivos gi'auta pou prosfere. Me to Gewrgiadh den kserw ti paixthke. Pantws to 8ema einai oti autoi pou hr8an DIKAIW8HKAN gia tis epiloges tous. KAI apallaxthkan (h8elhmena h' oxi) apo ta akriva sumvolaia KAI h omada termatise pshlotera apo persi pou eixe ta megala onomata.

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φιλαρακι ποσο δικαιο εχεις αλλα ποιος σε ακουει
ολοι εχουν την γνωμη τους και δεν την αλλαζουν με τιποτα
ουτε ακουνε τιποτα ......
δεν πειραζει ας κοιταξουμε μπροστα και αυτοι που διαφωνουν
θα ακολουθησουν .... ;D
ειδατε τον αρουλη και το αεκακι τιποτα δεν μας διδαξε αυτη
η ιστορια ?
πιστευω πως ναι ......
τωρα αρχισαμε και το ποιημα ανυπαρκτοι οι αλλοι γιαυτο
ηρθαμε τριτοι ...... ;D ε τινα πω και πρωταθλημα να παρουμε
θα πουνε η μας το δωσανε επειδη κλεισαμε 20 χρονια απο
το 85 η οτι γιορταζει η θεσσαλονικη καποια επετειο η
οτι ειναι ανυπαρκτοι οι αλλοι ...και δυστυχως σε αυτην την λουμπα πεφτουν και πολλοι δικοι μας μεσα ..... :(

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file tiore 8a h8ela na su kanw 2 erwthsoules

1)protimas proedrous ¨leftades¨(mpatman-seixhs arh) h tous ¨noikokirides¨ pu exume tora?

2)pisteveis oti eprepe prwta na ferei h doihkhsh kales metagrafes kai meta na ananewne tous twrinous?

prosopikh mu gnomh einai o PAOK san epixirhsh pou einai, prepei na sthrizete prwta sto lao tou, sta hshtiria ktlp, para se proedrus kolosous pou sthn telikh kserume ke pu katalhgoun. as mhn imaste fantasiopliktoi, sthn ellada den iparxoun alloi ¨kolosoi¨ tipou kokalh-vardinogianh alwste vlepete gia na parei thn aek o ntemhs xriasthke alous 20 megaloepixirimaties kai oxi enan. h sigekrimenh doihkish pistevw oti stirizete KAI sth tseph tu kosmu, distixws h eftixws, alla toulaxiston etsi kserume oti mas exun anagi kai oti eksartwnte apo mas (alwste aftos den ine o skopos tou podosferou? prosferw 8eama-exw eisprakseis. mia omada pistevw oti einai arketa igihs otan isxiei afto).

oso gia tis metagrafes 8a i8ela na pw oti mu fenetai poli periergo pu krinume thn doihkhsh gia tis metagrafes apo ton Maio!!!  ligo noris den ine re pedia? to swstotero pu 8a eprepe na kanei h doihkhsh einai na krathsei tous torinus pextes pou 8elei o aggelos kai ontos afto kanei! diladi ti 8elume, na mas ferun ton tsarta kai na mhn exune lefta meta na kratisune tous torinous? siga siga pistevw, molis teliwsoun tis ananewseis oi torinoi, meta 8a prospa8hsei h doihkhsh na kanei kai tis aparaithtes metagrafes giati h ali8ia ine oti xriazomaste geres metagrafes afto den to antilegw.

ipomonh kai oxi dixonies. filika ta lew mages mhn stravwnete osoi diafoneite

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pare tin porta kai fuge eipe kapios, den tha fygw omws akoma...

tha apanthsw stis erwthseis me erwthseis giati den ginete na milame gia sovara pragmata edw pera kai na mou lete an einai kalitera na ehoume leftades i noikokirides kai genika na vazete logia pou den ehw pei ....

rwtaw loipon... stin tabakiera kai sto thema pou ehei simasia , ola ta alla einai deytera kai trita

me ta 6 dis tou aplha tha xrwstouse simera o PAOK?
giati haristikan kai apo poioys haristikan?
giati den kinigane pleon ton batman, giati dothike sihwroharti?
to kiriotero ap ola...giati thaftike to thema apo ola ta mme topika kai mi?....gia 6 dis milame.

edw kanonika teliwnei i kouventa peri dioikhshs kai aggelou kai opioudhpote tin stirizei ....


alla na pame kai se alla... oxi file themi den tha sou pw onomata , den ehw na sou apodeixw tipota o logos mou ehei epihirimata tetoia pou den xreiazete na sou pw onomata gia na trehw egw kai na ikanopoieitheis esy... einai to ligotero afeles auto pou zitas.
Se anoixto forum eimaste den eimaste  sta spitia mas.... ama eimastan apo konta na sou pw oti thes afou eisai dispistos kai periergos na matheis onomata .

egw den proteinw tipota , sas lew pws ehoun ta pragmata, ti na proteinw dialdi ,na pw pame na kanoume polemo?
nomizw oti  ehei xathei kathe enoia tou dialogou pleon edw mesa... apantate se anousia pragmata vazete logia pou den leme kai gia tin ousia twn pragmatwn den leei kaneis kouventa.

ti na sou apanthsw re themi , psahneis se ena keimeno 3 selidwn na vreis pou leei o allos misi malakia na tin peis... +30 file einai kai 32,33, 34 einai 35 kai ehoume kamposous apo autous.... den tha ta pairneis opws theleis esy ayta pou grafw , eprepe na graspw +33 diladi?
katalaves esy oti opios ehei ligotero anhos paei kalitera? auto eipa egw? eipa oti o PAOK pige kala giati doulepsane irema makria apo to anhos alllwn etwn gia prwth fora stin istoria mas. ti na pw re allo....me ehete koufanei merikoi edw mesa...aporw ti kathomai kai grafw o malakas... e aei sixtiri pia , anathema tin wra pou to ekana post to gamokeimeno

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rwtaw loipon... stin tabakiera kai sto thema pou ehei simasia , ola ta alla einai deytera kai trita

me ta 6 dis tou aplha tha xrwstouse simera o PAOK?
giati haristikan kai apo poioys haristikan?
giati den kinigane pleon ton batman, giati dothike sihwroharti?
to kiriotero ap ola...giati thaftike to thema apo ola ta mme topika kai mi?....gia 6 dis milame.

ti na sou apanthsw re themi , psahneis se ena keimeno 3 selidwn na vreis pou leei o allos misi malakia na tin peis... +30 file einai kai 32,33, 34 einai 35 kai ehoume kamposous apo autous.... den tha ta pairneis opws theleis esy ayta pou grafw , eprepe na graspw +33 diladi?
katalaves esy oti opios ehei ligotero anhos paei kalitera? auto eipa egw? eipa oti o PAOK pige kala giati doulepsane irema makria apo to anhos alllwn etwn gia prwth fora stin istoria mas. ti na pw re allo....me ehete koufanei merikoi edw mesa...aporw ti kathomai kai grafw o malakas... e aei sixtiri pia , anathema tin wra pou to ekana post to gamokeimeno

Merikes apanthseis sta grhgora. Gia thn tampakera: to oti o Batman efage polla lefta (kai oxi mono apo thleoptika alla kai apo  to emporiko kommati tou PAOK) einai sigouro. Mallon sigouro einai epishs oti kai alloi fagane mazi tou. Isws na einai mplegmena kai stelexh ths prwhn kuvernhshs pou ton sthriksan. Gi'auto to logo alla kai epeidh praktika htan duskolo na apagkistrw8ei to kalokairi o PAOK apo auton, egine o,ti egine. Phre dhladh sugxwroxarti, ekanan olh thn papia kai "dexthke" autos na dwsei thn PAE me ena euteles poso. Ennoeitai auto. Malista o Benizelos epaikse ka8oristiko rolo sto na vre8ei h lush kai gi'auto o Goumenos ton euxaristouse sunexeia kai oute phgaine kontra sto nomo Lianh, klp., klp. Auta einai sigoura. Nai, den sumvadizoun me thn eikona mias pragmatika aneksarthths kai timias dioikhshs alla den prepei na zoume kai se enan kosmo twn paramu8iwn. Opoios epixeirhmatias kai na analamvane ton PAOK 8a koitaze na to kanei me to mikrotero dunato kostos. Ennoeitai oti den einai aggeloi. Alla egw pisteuw (mexri apodeiksews tou enantiou) oti exoun kales pro8eseis gia ton PAOK.  Mporei na peftw ki eksw.

Gia ta upoloipa, mhn ekneurizesai. To internet to ksereis polu kala oti den einai san thn apeu8eias sunomilia. To mono sto opoio kapoios mporei na apanthsei einai auto to opoio o allos grafei. Den kserw an allo h8eles na peis kai allo egrapses, dustuxws to internet etsi leitourgei. To kserw oti einai ashmanto alla gia na mhn dhmiourgountai la8os entupwseis sou 8umize oti egrpases: "fetos itan i monadiki xronia pou i omada den eihe anhos , den piestike apo ton kosmo kai tautoxrona vgike kai prwth se eisitiria, o kosmos tin stirixe kai itan pio wrimos apo pote.
gia emena ekei ofeilete kata 90% i epitihia, ekei panw pathse o aggelos kai ekane omada ton PAOK"  Les oti h epituxia ofeiletai kata 90% sthn elleipsh agxous kai sth sthriksh tou kosmou. Auto sxoliasa, giati fusika to vriskw upervoliko.

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1)tiore="klirwsh toy prwtathlimatos kai prwth agwnistiki me gavro keklismenwn... olos o kosmos tou PAOK fwnazei ektos apo tin dioikhsh."
chris=e den nomizw na ksexasame HDH thn STHMENH TIMWRIA twn 2 agwnistikwn tu kypelou..thn STHMENH KLHRWSH PRWTA8LHMATOS opou olws tyxaiws o gay hr8e se timwrhmenh tumpa..ton agwna kypelou me larisa opou H MONH OMADA pou edine agwna KYPELOU 3-4 meres prin to PRWTA8LHMA htan o PAOK.(..a nai htan k o panhliakos gia "ksekar8wma".o gay omws h o vazelos DEN eitan)isous KANONES DIEKSAGWGHS DEN EVAGELIZOMASTE OLOI MAS K APAITOUME?nomizw NAI.

E H DIOIKHSH MAS den eprepe na ADIDRASEI?edw gay-vazeloi-xanumoi "fwnazoun oi kleftes gia na fobh8un oi noikokyrides" gia to OTIDHPOTE.kai h DIOIKHSH mas TSIMOUDIA?edw re EIXAN APAGOREPSEI NA EIMASTE EKSW APO TO GHPEDO to ksexasame?

katastaseis perigrafei o @tiore.KRITIKH opou bazeis ta 8etika k ta arnhtika k ta zygizeis.

2)tiore="O aggelos einai katholikis apodohis apo ton kosmo kai stin ousia autos pou stirizei tin omada kai tin dioikhsh."
chris=den einai psema afto k TIMAEI TON AGGELO me thn diapistwsh tu afth o @tiore afou ONTWS o aggelos einai "gia oles tis duleies" k xaras to kouragio tu aggelou.giati omws h DIOIKHSH na karpwnetai sto telos ths periodou KAI to meridio epitixias tu agelou?

3)tiore="Sta agwnistika oti leei o aggelos ginete.. i omada thelei xrono... meta apo 2-3 mines xwris na paizei mpala pairnei apotelesmata. SIga siga paizei kai ligo mpalitsa kerdizei kai ton gavro kai arxizoun ta paramilita gia prwtathlimata ktl."
chris=kai edw exei dikio o @tiore.EPITELOUS enas proponhths PAIRNEI EF8HNES PANW TU,ton AFHNUN na dulepsei k DIKAIWNETAI.den to krybw oti kai egw otan eixa akousei tis dhlwseis tu meta to PAOK-LIN 0-1 oti 'o PAOK EINAI KALYTERH OMADA APO PERYSI" e? eixa xazepsei ligo,alla na pu mas xazepse o aggelos k o PAOK meta an mh ti allo efxarista

4)tiore="fisiologika xefouskwnoume sto telos parola ayta kratame tin triti thesh logw kektimenis tahititas kai aniparxias twn allwn."
chris=isws afto edw egw 8a to ekfraza alliws:na einai kai h kariola h aek dynath fetos k na gustarw perisotero pu espasa thn katara ths 4hs 8eshs k thn PERASA.enw twra h aek "klaigetai" oti k 8avma fetos gia afthn to ti skata katafere..exei k ton bazelo ston hmiteliko na tis klebei thn prokrish ston teliko ..k etsi EMMESA lene polloi oti NAI MEN 3os o PAOK alla kai h aek gia ton POUTSO htane fetos.
ISWS O @TIORE xtypa kampanaki oti o PAOK PREPEI KA8E XRONIA O PAOK NA DYNAMWNEI SE OLA TA EPIPEDA.KA8E XRONIA..KA8E XRONIA.opote an o PAOK einai PANTA DYNATOS K KA8E XRONIA DYNATOS de pa na "gavgizoun" oi alloi kai na prospa8oun na meiwsoun tis epityxies tu?sta @@ mas

5)tiore="fetos itan i monadiki xronia pou i omada den eihe anhos , den piestike apo ton kosmo kai tautoxrona vgike kai prwth se eisitiria, o kosmos tin stirixe kai itan pio wrimos apo pote.
gia emena ekei ofeilete kata 90% i epitihia, ekei panw pathse o aggelos kai ekane omada ton PAOK.
den einai apokistikh epitihia oyte toy aggeloy ,oyte twn paiktwn oyte toy kosmoy. kai poly perisotero tis dioikhshs."
chris=edw egw symfwnw.
den pieze o Laos gia epityxies-poies alh8eia na perimename me tis syn8hkes tu kalokairiou?
ekane to ka8hkon kai ONTWS EINAI P-R-W-T-O-S SE EISHTHRIA! kai an mu poun kapoioi "ma o PAOK exei ghpedo 28.7008esewn enw gay exei 14000-15000 enw bazelos 16.000-17.000 "e?as ta gemizannnnnn afou exoun toosssssaaa ekatomyria opadous.an ta gemizan, AFTOI 8a htan prwtoi.
enas LAOS pou ENIWSE k ligaki thn "logikh tu xaibania einai oi PAOKtshdes,gia na baloume 15euro KATWTERO EISHHTHRIO me ton iwniko emeis oi dioikountes".o LAOS omws edwse thn apanthsh tu.(KATI TETOIA NA 8YMOUNTAI OI DIOIKOUNTES OTAN BGALOUN TA NEA DIARKEIAS)

6)tiore="gia tin anagh tou PAOK na krathsei tous paiktes pou ehei me akoma hamilotera simvolaia, kai na min anoixtei se metagrafes.
xerete eseis kanenan pou na ekane omada xwris lefta? xerete kamia omada pou na thelei na paixei prwtagwnistiko rolo me baget to ena eikosto twn antagwnistwn tis?"
chris=edw egw to ermhnevw oti DYSKOLA o PAOK 8a mporesei na XTYPHSEI PRWTA8LHMA ,giati POLY APLA apo tu xronou PRWTA8LHMA PRE-PEI na xtyphsei afou oi 8eseis 1h k 2h ODHGOUN STO C.L. ,alliws OUEFA K PALI OUEFA .kai dyskola 8a xtyphsei h 8a GINEI AKOMA MEGALYTERH OMADA afou gay k vazelos synexeia enisxiontai.bebaia egw krataw mia epifylaksh oti polles fores "ta rasa den kanun ton papa"...as poume h REAL MADRITHS pou fetos einai skata k aposkata.mallon h alh8eia brisketai kapou sthn mesh

7)tiore="akougete oti ta diarkias tha paizoun 40-50% pio panw kai oti den tha ehei mesa ta mats tou cl...
a tha ehoume kai 15 souites tou xronou, kati akousa gia 1500 euro auto de me noaizei kai poly giati xerw oti den tha to plirwsei o kosmakis, as tis valoune kai 3000 to mats kai makari na tis pairnoune na konomane oi ligourides."
chris=egw edw ksanasymfwnw me thn logikh tu @homopaokus se allo topic:
2paoktshdes * 5euro = 10 euro
alla kai
5paoktshdes * 2 euro =PALI 10 euro

8)tiore="twra auta peri paoktsidwn ktl as ta poune allou, poloi itane kai o voulinos PAOKtshs itane kai malista poly perisotero apo aytous. kai o froutemporas akomi pio poly kai apo to voulino kai apo polous apo emas... den vgainei akri etsi... o kathenas krinete,kaneis den prepei na einai sto apirovlito ,einai akrws epikindino auto."
chris=enoeitai oti o ka8enas krinetai.kai oi KRINOMENOI krinontai,kai aftoi pou prepei na KRI8OUN kai OLOI KAI OLOI MAS.to "ala8hto tu papa" den einai pronomio KANENOS TUS kai KANENOS MAS.

9)tiore="emena den mou aresoun kapoia pragmata kai ta lew, an perisi tetoia epohi tous edwse o theios ta fraga, kai pistepsane me ayta ta lefta tha anasthsoun ton paok , xalafrwnontas tautoxrona tin omada apo ta megala simvolaia auto den einai kai toso kako... kako omws kai megalo malista einai na douleueis ton kosmo meta apo ena xrono paristanontas mera nixta ton swthra me tis plates kai tis avantes pou den eihe pote kanenas pou dioikouse ton PAOK.
kai epeidh den mporw na apodeixw apo edw mesa pws edwse ta fraga o theios napiasoume kai tin alli periptwsh..."
chris=apodeikseis DEN exei o @tiore,opws k kaneis mas nomizw,alla DEN DIKAZEI alla apla ksanafernei sthn mnhmh mas ENDEIKSEIS pu nai...mh mu peite oti den tis eixame skeftei tote throumenwn twn XRONIKWN SYGHRIWN pou eixan symbei.alla einai ENDEIKSEIS...mporei na eitan h na mhn eitan etsi.

sigoura pantws OTAN htan DIOIKOUSA EPITROPH eixan megalo peri8wrio anoxhs apo olous mas,afou den eixan metoxes,den htan IDIOKTHTES,alla aploi DIAXEIRISTES.twra omws POU EXOUN TO PLEIOPSHFIKO PAKETO exoun kai ypoxrewseis,panta sto metro tu dyantou..alla AN DEN mporesoun k aftoi?alloi tote.O PAOK DEN XANETAI.adieksoda stis dhmokraties lene den yparxoun..bebaia se kati xountes boulinou h batman yphrxan egafalika,fytopoihsh tu laou,apogohtefsh tu,k 1002 alla.GI AFTO "FYSA KAI TO GIAOURTI,FYSA TO ,AMA EXEIS KAEI APO TON XYLO"..fysa to bebaia,mhn to pas k ston voreio polo gia na krywsei.me liga logia kritikh me epeixhrhmata


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10)tiore="tote einai akoma pio poustiko ayto pou kanane, afou afhsane ton PAOK na dialithei gia na analavoun kameni gh, kai ws gnwston to kameno fwtia xana den pairnei, apo ton pato mono pros ta panw pas pio katw den ehei. xehasa, swsane tin omada apo tin g ethniki re, einai kai auto... bravo tous... kala pou htane ki autoi alliws twra tha paizame me ton fwsthra..."
chris=san DIAXEIRISTES htan polloi kaloi k noikokyrhdes kai afto einai anagnwrisimo.alla TWRA den einai DIAXEIRISTES.einai oi IDIOKTHTES?

11)tiore="Etsi ginomouna kai egw proedros ston PAOK, kai o misos kosmos tou PAOK. Xwris na valoun lefta me to 1/10 twn exodwn pou eihe alles xronies i omada me rithmiseman ta xreh kai me 100% thetikous apologismous gia ta epomena xronia."
chris=mallon o tiore 8a 8ymatai xronies boulinou OPOU  K TOTE O PAOK DEN XRWSTOUSE DRAXMH ,alla to butzet tu htan omadas pu 8elei na meinei sthn 'a.(kai oi xronies pu kaname tote..ligo prin fygei o bulinos..htan panagia boh8a)

12)tiore="telika me ayta ta lefta tou alpha pou o  batman ypexerese apo ton PAOK ti skata ginete? giati i omada me ayta ta fraga swnotane kai evgaine kai apo panw xwris swthres... alla etsi einai ola ehoun to timima tous"
chris=kai edw mia KATASTASH PERIGRAFEI ,opou malista emena PROSWPIKA me eixe TSATISEI AFANTASTA TO GEGONOS oti TO EIXA DIABASEI GIA TA 5,5DIS DRX STHN EFHMERIDA "APOPSH",a8hnaikh parakalw,tu mhtropoulou KAI POTE DEN EIDA AR8RA STIS EFHMERIDES TIS POLHS MAS(a8lhtikes k politikes) YPOPTOTATO.


13)"bane="για μενα ο ΠΑΟΚ εσκασε τον τελευταιο μηνα . δεν ειχε παγκο .και οσοι κανανε καλη χρονια περυσι φετος ηταν τραυματιες .ητανε θαυμα το φετινο .μην τα ξαναλεμε"
chris=mallon o @tiore-opws to katalabainw egw-einai mesa apo ta grafomena tu na TONISEI afto to 8AVMA ,wste na to synhditopoihsoume kai NA GINEI O PAOK TOSO DYNATOS WSTE NA MHN XREIAZETAI "8AVMATA".bebaia 8a xreiazetai na NIKAME K-A-I TUS DIAITHTES,alla afto einai allou papa evagelio.

14)8emhs="Malista o Benizelos epaikse ka8oristiko rolo sto na vre8ei h lush kai gi'auto o Goumenos ton euxaristouse sunexeia kai oute phgaine kontra sto nomo Lianh, klp., klp. Auta einai sigoura. Nai, den sumvadizoun me thn eikona mias pragmatika aneksarthths kai timias dioikhshs alla den prepei na zoume kai se enan kosmo twn paramu8iwn. Opoios epixeirhmatias kai na analamvane ton PAOK 8a koitaze na to kanei me to mikrotero dunato kostos. Ennoeitai oti den einai aggeloi. Alla egw pisteuw (mexri apodeiksews tou enantiou) oti exoun kales pro8eseis gia ton PAOK.  Mporei na peftw ki eksw."
chris=ousiastika o @tiore edeikse oti nai,ageloi den einai,kales pro8eseis?bre makari na apodeixtei TWRA POU EINAI DIOIKOUNTES na apodeiksoun oti exoun.SIGOURA OMWS DEN EINAI ANEGIXTOI ,DEN EINAI ALA8HTOI,KAI PREPEI NA KRITIKARONTAI(oxi mono 8etika alla kai arnhtika)

15)8emehs="To kserw oti einai ashmanto alla gia na mhn dhmiourgountai la8os entupwseis sou 8umize oti egrpases: "fetos itan i monadiki xronia pou i omada den eihe anhos , den piestike apo ton kosmo kai tautoxrona vgike kai prwth se eisitiria, o kosmos tin stirixe kai itan pio wrimos apo pote.
gia emena ekei ofeilete kata 90% i epitihia, ekei panw pathse o aggelos kai ekane omada ton PAOK"  Les oti h epituxia ofeiletai kata 90% sthn elleipsh agxous kai sth sthriksh tou kosmou. Auto sxoliasa, giati fusika to vriskw upervoliko."
chris=kapou sthn mesh brisketai h alh8eia.OUTE tu kosmou apokleistika,OUTE tu aggelou apokleistika,OUTE twn paixtwn apokleistika,OUTE ths dioikhshs apokleistika.TO 8EMA EINAI OTI OI DIOIKOUNTES K H GRAMMH TWN MME DEIXNEI OTI H EPITIXIA EINAI PIO POLY ERGO DIOIKHSHS.
 

chris

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..isws gia na dwsw kai ena paradeigma pio xeiropiasto 8a "metaxeiristw" afto to site kai afto to forum.
PAOKtshdes den eimaste kai emeis oi 6-pana8ema mas-pu briskomaste "pisw" apo to PAOKWORLD?
e ti diaolo,eimaste ;D

gia skefteite na niw8ame pote h na mas legate h na afhnotan na yparxei h skepsh oti "PAOKTSHDES EINAI TA PAIDIA TU PAOKWORLD.MHN TOLMHSEI KANENAS NA TUS KRITIKAREI H NA TUS STENAXWRESEI OTI KAI NA GRAFOUN,OTI KAI NA KANOUN GIA TON PAOK MESA STO DIADYKTIO"

afto 8a htan akrws EPIKINDYNO! omws.

DOKSAZW ton 8EO(a re pana8ema me,"agelitida" exw pa8ei 8) ) pou PAMPOLLES FORES apo thn arxh leitourgias tu site aftou k tu forum,sas exoume TONISEI oti APAITOUME THN KRITIKH,8eloume na doume ta la8h mas,8eloume na sas afougrastoume,to site den to kaname gia MAS alla gia ESAS ,kai polla alla paromoia pu pistevw oti ta exete diapistwsei oloi me to perasma tu xronou.

katalabainete to "sygritiko" mu paradeigma?
entaksei ta mege8h ka8e allo para sygrisima einai..ama arxisoume na MALAKIZOMASTE san PAOKWORLD :P to poly poly na thn "kanete",na mhn mpainete,na ftiaksete h na breite alla site KATI POU POLY KALA 8A KANETE K PU KAI EGW 8A TO EKANA ASHZHTHTOI.

sthn DIOIKHSH OMWS TU PAOK den exei "bre ainte den asoloumai allo pleon"..."bre ainte pame pali mia apoxh"...PAOK PROEDROS SOU EINAI O LAOS SOU!