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IronEagle ·
Me basi mia antipara8esi pou eixame tis pro'i'goumenes meres sto forum , skeftika na anoikso ayto edo to topic, katarxas gia na metafer8oun prota oi sostes apopseis sto sosto topic kai deyteron, na mporoume edo na anaptiksoume o ka8enas tis skepseis mas, peri aytou tou 8ematos!
To olo skiniko ksekinise apo mia "enoxlisei" diki mou, pou antikrisa se selida s.f.pao salonikis, na exoun os emblima ton Leyko Pirgo kai to Asteri ris Berginas!
Dextika mia epi8esi apo diafora meli tou foroum dikaiologontas tous bazelous, legontas oti etsi einai kai ayto einai to sosto..., kai apantisa xoris na doso emfasi sto olo 8ema 8eorisa oti ekei kapou klinei!!
Meta peire mia tropi to olo 8ema kai pragmatika anarotieme gia pio logo yparxoun kapia symbola kai an merikoi kseroun to ti symbolizei ta ka8e ena!!!
Ta "simata" ton omadon einai apo mona tou SYMBOLA kai symbolizoun kati, (opos kai ta kommatika symbola, opos episis kai ta 8riskeytika symbola!!!), kai sini8os ektos apo tin a8litiki tous yparksei, ginonte PRESBES olokliris tis perioxis apo opou katagonte, (panta kata tin tapini mou apopsi)!!
Ekatsa kai egrapsa ena olokliro katebato gia diafores omades kai ti SYMBOLIZEI i ka8emia
H apantisei pou pira...? ?? Oriste...!!!
Sto oti les, file @tsakalaki, o s.f.PAOK attikis exei osi sima tin akropoli, pragmatika sou milao, proti fora to akouo! Exo dyo diaforetikes syndesmitikes mplouzes tous, kai kati eggrafa, kai pou8ena den apeikonizete i akropoli! Ean omos esy to exeis dei kapou, os episimo symbolo, fysika 8a epeimino stin apopsi mou OTI DEN STEKEI!!! ALLO SYMBOLIZEI O DIKEFALOS AETOS KAI ALLO H AKROPOLH! Akoma , file @geogrie-4-, o s.f. PAOK muenchen exei ena eikonidio parmeno apo to EMBLHMA tou Dimou Monaxou! Kai rotao.... ti koino exei o dikefalos aetos tou PAOK me ekeino to Symbolo tou monaxou?? O s.f. PAOK Monaxou , idri8ike os syndesmos tou PAOK 8essalonikis pou asxoleite me ta koina tou PAOK 8essalonikis, 'H mipos asxoleite kai me ta koina tou Dimou Monaxou?? Kai an den asxoleite me ta "Toy Dimou Monaxou" tote giati exoun san symbolo kai to symbolo tou proanaferomenou Dimou!!!
Ta ekkatomiria stin A8ina pou eipes, kratousan sta sillatiria pou ekanan gia tin Makedonia, simaies tis Makedonias!!! EKANAN SILLALITIRIO GIA THN MAKEDONIA, OS MAKEDONIA!!! TO SILLATIRIO EIXE NA KANEI GIA THN YPARXOUSA MAKEDONIA, kai fysika peiran ta symbola is Makedonias kai bgikan stous dromous!!
DEN MPOROUN NA SYNIPRAKSOUN OS ENIAIO SIMA , DYO IDI YPARXONTA SYMBOLA OTAN AYTA KAI TA DYO APO MONA TOUS SYMBOLIZOUN KATI! Stin prokimeni periptosi, opos anafero kai pio pano sto quote, o pana8ina'i'kos SYMBOLIZEI apo monos tou tin A8ina, kai o Leykos Pirgos tin 8essaloniki! (Ektos an paradextoume oti o pana8ina'i'kos einai panelladikos, arra kai ola ta symbola tis ellados tautizonte me ton pana8ina'i'ko!
Merika paradeigmata pou mou erxopnte sta grigora:
Fantasteite oi deksioi-akrodeksioi pou exoun er8ei apo rosia, (oi legomenoi roso-pontioi) , na exoun os sima ena deksio symbolo (p.x. ton…
IronEagle ·
Eytixos pou breika kai ena ypostirixtei se oli ayti tin katastasi kai pou an kai molis 16 xronon einai aksio8aymasto to keimeno tou....
Georgie-4- ·
Ksekolla re ironeagle...
Allo an mas tsouzei pou allothriskoi exoun syndesmous stin Thessaloniki kai allo ta symvola..ksekolla se parakalw..
Ta symvola ola ANIKOUN STOUS PAPANTAXOU ELLINES...
O Levkos Pyrgos, i Akropoli, to Dion, i Dodoni, i Apsida tou Galeriou, i Agia Sofia ktl einai SYMVOLA TOU ELLINISMOU kai oxi symvola mono tis Thessalonikis, tis Athinas kai tis Kwnstantinoupolis ktl...Poso theleis na mas trelaneis ?
Ksereis posoi Ellines stin Germania exoun tarvenes me onoma Akropoli kai einai Voreioelladites?
re sy ksekolla apo tin zwi sou...PRWTA EIMASTE ELLINES kai meta PAOKtsides, gay, vazeloi kai aektsides...
Otan zw sto Monaxo kai eimai PAOKtsis, tha valw to sima tou Monaxo mesa sto dikefalo aeto, gia na deiksw tin proelevsi mou..
O Athinaios trelopaoktsis, giati na valei ton Levko Pyrgo kai oxi tin Akropoli ? Gennimenos stin Athina einai, ti douleia exei peran tou PAOK me tin Thessaloniki ? Opws kai to idio isxyei gia tou vazelous Thessalonikeis..kai ksanamatalew allo einai an anexomaste vazelosyndesmous stin Thessaloniki kai allo an exoun to dikaiwma na xrisimopoioun symvola tis PATRIDAS tous..avto to dikaiwma den mporei na tous to afairesei KANEIS..
tsakalaki 4 ·
Θα ξεκινήσω με το θέμα της ακρόπολης
http://www.paok-athens.gr/paok/modules.php?name=Encyclopedia&op=list_content&eid=7 εδώ θα το δείς.
ας πάρουμε την περίπτωση της εσπανιόλ η οποία αν δεν κάνω λάθος δημιουργήθηκε απο τον Φράγκο εξού και η κορόνα και οι περισσότεροι οπαδοί της είναι απο γόνους παλιών στρατιωτικών.
Δεν μου είπες μια που μιλάς για σύμβολα η ατλέτικο έχει πουθενά την κορόνα ;
έχεις μπερδευτεί μάλλον αλλά θα στο ξαναπώ οι βάζελοι που μένουν στην Θεσσαλονίκη δηλαδή δεν είναι Έλληνες δεν είναι Μακεδόνες ; αφού μένουν εδώ τι σήμα να βάλουν την ακρόπολη ; νιώθουν περήφανοι που είναι Μακεδόνες και το τονίζουν τώρα αν δεν μας αρέσει που έχουν σύνδεσμο εδώ είναι μια άλλη ιστορία. Εκτός αν νομίζεις ότι ζούνε σε μια ξένη χώρα και απαγορευεται να χρησιμοποιούν τα δικά μας σύμβολα πράγμα για το οποίο διαφωνώ. Λες ότι ο παναθηναικός είναι πανελλαδικός και φυσικά είναι και όχι μόνο αυτός όπως φυσικά πανελλήνιος είναι και ο ΠΑΟΚ για να μην πώ παγκόσμιος. Και τώρα που θυμάμαι πριν απο χρόνια ο σ.φ.Ηρακλείου Κρήτης είχε βγάλει μπλουζάκια με το δικέφαλο μπροστά και απο πίσω την Κρήτη η και αυτό θα έπρεπε να απαγορεύεται, θα μπορούσα να σου γράφω για ώρες αλλά δεν νομίσω ότι θα καταλάβεις.
artemios ·
to sumbolo tou paok einai ena o dikefalos aetos
i edra i thessalonikh
o leukos purgos einai sumbolo gia tin poli mas oxi gia thn omada mas
aloste kai ta skoulikia pou pernoune kanena kipelaki sto basket pano sto leuko pirgo ta panigurizoun ti sumbolizoun to paok?
enai krima na skefomaste etsi egw edw sthn australia exw kolito apo kalamata pou einai trello paoki ti na tou pw na valei to leuko pirgo apo tin kalamata katagete o an8ropws kai exei alla simbola gia tin poli tou i agapi tou einai mia o paok
ena paradeigma efera giati exw polla paokia apo kerkira, arta klp
peftoume sthn pagida ton athneon pou einai proteuousianei kai oloi oi alloi eparxia e oxi re ellada eimaste oloi kai to sima tou paok as kimatizei se olo ton kosmo an kapoio salonikios tin vriskei me vazelo dikaiomato poios eimai egw na ton krino
an egine vazelogauros giati autoi kerdizoun ta panta sto katestimeno e tote teoia paokia den ta 8elw as ginoun gauroi xanoumia oti 8eloun
egw menw 1000000000 xiliades xiliometra apo tin toumpa kai thn exw ka8e mera sthn kardia mou sto maulo mou poios einai autos pou 8a mou pei na min valw to sinbolo kapoio xaraktiristiko tis poli edw me to paok mazi
xara mou oloi i athineo na katalavoun kai na aspazonto to megaleio tou paok
tsakalaki 4 ·
Noμίζω πως με λίγα λόγια έγραψες Αρτέμιε και μετέφερες την πραγματικότητα που ζει ο ΠΑΟΚτσής που ζεί μακρυά απο τη χώρα του.
skyclad4 ·
Sumfwnw 100% me artemio. O PAOK exei san sumbolo to Dikefalo Aeto kai tipote allo. Oute leukoi purgoi, oite asteria ths berginas exoun sxesh me ton PAOK. O leukos purgos einai to sumbolo ths 8essalonikhs kai to asteri ths berginas to sumbolo mias arxaias autokratorias.
IronEagle ·
Paideia ligo prosoxi, na min mperdeyti i poutsa me tin bourtsa....
@Gergie-4- Safos kai ola ta Ellinika symbola anoikoun se olous tous Ellines kai to ka8ena symbolizei tin Ellada! Sto oti eimaste prota Ellines omos, kai meta Paok, gay, bazeloi klp. mi to 8etis kai toso apolita , giati einai prosopiki sou apopsi! Eimaste Ellines ospou paiksoun oi Ellinikes mas omades stin Eyropi! Tin ora ton agonon den eimaste Ellines, alla Ispanoi
Aggloi, Germanoi, Italoi klp.! Perito na sou po oti se ka8e apotixia Ellinikis (a8ina'i'kis) omadas stin Eyropi se ola ta radiofona tis 8essalonikis ixoun "klarina"! Kati analogo ginete kai stin a8ina metaksi tous gay kai tous bazelous! Giati 8a eisai poli afelis an nomizeis oti oi gay 8eloun to kalo tou bazelou stin Eyropi kai anti8etos!
Ayto me tis tavernes stin Germania den to katalava alla telos panton! Safos kai to ksero alla kai kala kanoun! (8a me peiraze ean eblepa tourkous na exoun tourkika kafeneia me to onoma akropoli kai ka8e ti Elliniko, akoma kai tin Agia Sofia, pou simbenei kai ayto! Kai na kseres poso me peiraze pou eblepa stin Germania Tourkika magazakia me onomasies "Hagia Sofia", "Kibris" (Kypros), "Trabzon", eidika kati mikromagaza 5x5 "Doener - Kebap Stuben" pou prepei na ksereis gia pio pragma milao, mesa stin broma kai na figourarei apo ekso to megalitero symbolo tis or8odoksias! To mono pou mou pernouse apo to mialo , eitan "ELEOS"!!!)
Oso gia ton filo sou ton A8inaio pou mou les, ki ego eimai Skydraios / Edessa kai to symbolo tis perioxis einai oi kataraktes tis Edessas! Apo mikro paidi omos otan akoma zografiza kati peri PAOK zografiza ton dikefalo kai ton Leyko Pirgo, asxetos an den eimai apo Saloniki, alla den zografiza tous kataraktse tis Edessas gia na deikso tin proeleysi mou! Den empleka ton PAOK me tin proeleysi mou! Giati poli apla den exei kamia sxesi to apo pou katagome ego , kai ti antiprosopeyei o PAOK!
@tsakalaki den paei na pei oti oles oi omades prepei na exoun son kai kala to idio symbolo!!! De se katalaba!! Prepei na exoun oles oi omades stin Ispania basiliki korona? Malon kati la8os katalabes....
Gia to an o pana8ina'i'kos einai panelladikos einai kai ayto prosopiki sou apopsi! 8a sou po ki esena to idio pou eipa kai ston filo ton georgi, otan o pana8ina'ikos paizei Eyropi ta 2/3 tis Ellados einai me ton antipalo tou pana8ina'i'kou para me ton idio! Opote apo pou bgazeis to symperasma oti einai panelladikos?
O PAOK tora, ekprosopeite pangosmios apo tous fila8lous tou, dioti einai diaskorpismenoi se olo ton kosmo, alla apo pou ki ospou einai o idios pangosmios? O PAOK einai enas, aytos stin 8essaloniki!
O S.F.PAOK Kritis, o S.F PAOK sto Monaxo kai o S.F. Bazelos 13 Salonikis, mporoun na kanoune oti 8eloun kai na bgaloun osa mplouzakia 8eloun (me otidipote epigrafes o ka8enas)! Emeis otan bgalame mplouzakia, to 8ema mas eitan o PAOK, diladi to a8litiko somateio me symbolo ton dikefalo aeto pou exei edra tin 8essaloniki, kai ayti me tin seira tis exei symbolo ton leyko pirgo kai…
Georgie-4- ·
Ena pragma san to pswmi ,paideia, elevtheria diladi ?
Agkagkaougkagka...Mallon na mas trelaneis valthikes simera..Exeis xasei mallon tin epafi me tin pragmatikotita kai dystyxws na se voithisw den mporw..
Prwta loipon eisai PAOK kai meta Ellinas..malista
Me tin diestrammeni dikia sou logiki, den yparxoun omades PAOK,PAO kai gay giati otan pirame to EURO,oloi stous dromous fwnazame einai varia i poutsa tou tsolia...Alli epafi me tin elliniki koinwnia ektos apo tis omades kai ta athlitika exeis ?
Gia esena i kazoura isoutai me eleipsi ethnikis tavtotitas..
O PAOKtshs thelei na xanei o roulis stin Evrwpi, pou o roulis einai Thessalonikios, opote o PAOKtshs den einai Thessalonikios ?
muuuuhhhhhhh....
Twra avta den ta katalava giati mallon diavazontas ta, pethanane ston dromo kamia dekaria xiliades egkefalika kyttara..
Pane des kai SF PAOK London kai to SF PAOK New York..kai an theleis kai allous syndesmous edw eimai...
Katalavainw tin logiki sou, kai egw apo mikros zwgrafiza diastimoploia, avto den simainei omws oti eimai apo ton Ari, epeidi omws den zwgrafiza ton Levko Pyrgo den simainei oti i proelevsi mou den einai apo tin Thessaloniki...Ta xapia mou...
Edit : Kai me tin logiki sou pou skotwnei, oute oi Pontioi exoun to dikaiwma na xrisimopoioune ta symvola avta, giati apla den einai Makedones, alla Pontioi..
Episis i 25 Martiou giortazoume tin kyriksi tis epanastasews stin Agia Lavra..epeidi loipon emeis oi Thessalonikeis, alla PAOKtsides, den goustaroume tous Peloponisious, den tha giortasoume fetos.. Einai mia giorti tis Peloponisou kai tis Stereas Ellados..
Na apokyriksoume diladi tin ethniki avti epeteio kai na giortazoume apo edw kai pera tin Apelevtherwsi tis Makedonias mono...alla poustia o Pavlos Melas itane Athinaios, kai alli poustia polemisan Kritikoi kai Kyprioi...hmmm tote na min giortasoume tipota..
Ta SYMVOLA TOU ETHNOUS EINAI ELLINIKA KAI OLOI OI ELLINES EXOUN TO DIKAIWMA NA TA XRISIMOPOIOUN..
Aman kai alli poustia, ta katostarika eixan to sima stis Makedonias kai ta eixane sta xeria tous vazeloi kai gay ? Ntropi...pali kala pou irthe to euro..Ta xapia mou..
drous ·
Kai esy Georgie-4 exeis dikio, kai esy IronEagle exeis dikio
Apla mia dieukrinish kuriws apo ton IronEagle
To asteri ths Berginas proerxetai apo tis Arxaies Aiges - sugxronh Bergina
H opoia bergina anhkei ston nomo Hma8ias
O opoios anhkei sto gewgrafiko diamerisma ths Makedonias
H opoia anhkei sto boreio miso ths Elladas (Boreia Ellada)
H opoia anhkei sthn Ellada
Apo auth thn alusida (Bergina -> N. Hma8ias -> Makedonia -> B.Ellada -> Ellada) 8ewreis oti prepei na spasei o krikos pou enwnei thn Makedonia me thn boreia ellada (na mhn exoun dikaiwma oi 8rakiwtes px na to xrhsimopoioun) h' autos pou enwnei thn B.Ellada me thn Ellada?
Kai giati na mhn spasei pio nwris. Na bgei o Beriwths kai na sou pei.. Katse re 8essalonikie... ti douleia exeis me to Asteri esy? Sto nomo mou den einai?? Giati to xrhsimopoieis?
8a mou peis... einai sumbolo ths Makedonias kai h 8essalonikh anhkei sth Makedonia.
Kai 8a bgei kai o Skopianos kai 8a sou pei oti kai autos anhkei sto Euruterh perioxh ths Makedonias.
Meta 8a tou apanthseis oti den milaei Ellhnika kai paei legontas.
H diaxwristikh grammh tou ti anhkei se poion kai poios exei dikaiwma na to xrhsimopoiei einai polu lepth
Giati epishs 8a sou kapoios, oti mono o Hraklhs kai o Arhs 8a prepei na xrhsimopoioune to Asteri ths Berginas giati einai swmatia pou dhlwnoune o enas ton Hmi8eo kai o allos ton 8eo tou polemou (ara arxaia Ellada, Dwdeka8eo, dhl h 8rhskeia twn Makedonwn)
Kai oti h Buzantinh Autokratoria (me tis ka8ara Rwmaikes Rizes) h opoia dhlwnetai apo to sumbolo tou PAOK 3erizwse apo thn suneidhsh tou autox8ona Ellhnia thn 8rhskeia tou (to Dwdeka8eo twn Makedonwn pou exoune sumbolo to Asteri ths Berginas) kai epeballe ton Xristianismo. Kai autos o opoios prospa8hse na epanaferei ton Arxaio Ellhniko Politismo 8ewreitai Parabaths.
Opote mporei na anoixtei kai auto to terastio 8ema ths sugkroushs Klassikou Ellhnismou kai Xristianismou.
Oi grammes to 3analew einai POLY leptes
Ara Georgie-4 exeis dikio, IronEagle exeis kai esu dikio kai nomizw oti kai egw exw dikio
Georgie-4- ·
drous exeis apolyta dikio..
egw den katalavainw omws pou exei dikio o ironeagle otan leei oti oi vazeloi kai oi gay den mporoun na xrisimopoioun to sima tis Verginas i ton Levko Pyrgo ?
Exeis apolyto dikio, kai den tha itane ofelimo na arxisoume me to thema Arxaios ellinikos politismos VS Rwmaiki Avtokratoria (Byzantini)..
O Ellinas einai Ellinas..eite einai PAOK eite Aris eite gay..eite deksios eite aristeros..
Telospantwn to thema nomizw eksantlithike kai den xrizei peraiterw analysis..
drous ·
Yparxei kai h ennoia tou topikismou thn opoia thn apodexomai. Paradeigma h patrida tou Zourari....
To 8ewrw hli8io na uposthrizeis omades pou den anhkoun ston topo sou idiws epeidh tuxainei na einai prwtes. Na dw pote 8a apokthsoume thn Agglikh nootropia. As poume sto Manchester pou emeina 2 xronia einai gegonos oti oi perissoteroi einai City kai oxi UTD. Thn apex8anontai thn UTD, kai lene malista oti thn UTD thn uposthrizoune mono 3enoi (auto gia thn nootropia oti sthn Agglia den uposthrizoune tis prwta8lhtries). Kai fusika den uparxoune Mancunians (oi katoikoi tou Manchester pou na uposthrizoune Chelsea)
Opote katalabainw thn logikh tou oti eisai Makedonas, uposthrizei A8hnaikes omades, ai sixtir tote kai na dexesai kai ta sumbola ths A8hnas kai oxi ths Makedonias. E3allou einai gnwsth h adikia se baros ths upoloiphs Elladas se sxesh me thn A8hna. Opws kai eipe h a3iotimh Dhmarxos A8hnwn... Ellada = A8hna! "Euxaristoume thn E8nikh Ellados pou efere to kupello sthn A8hna"
Opote apo to prisma pou to koitaei o IronEagle exei dikio. Etsi toulaxiston mporw na to ermhneusw egw.
Bebaia pali uparxei o antilogos... An einai na akoume mono Trupes giati einai 8essalonikeis kai oxi Socrates (sthn tuxh to lew den 3erw apo pou einai o Spa8as h o Tourkogiwrghs...) h' Poulikako, h Sidhropoulo (pou htan A8hnaios).
Den eimai sxizofrenhs... (giati mia lew to ena, mia to allo). Apla to 8ema einai h optikh gwnia pou blepeis ta pragmata.
Den 3erw an exei e3antlh8ei to 8ema. Sigoura den uparxei swsto kai la8os
Georgie-4- ·
Ara me to prisma pou to vlepei o ironeagle kai wraia to paratheteis esy, o ironeagle Edessaikos prepei na einai i Aetos Skydras kalytera...
ara afou einai PAOK, to prisma mallon kapou exei ragisma..
file drous, to olo thema exei na kanei me stenokefali antilipsi kai oxi me prismata...exei athinaikes pinakides ena pragma..
To gegonos oti o Makedonas gay i vazelos den mporei na xrisimopoiisei to sima tis verginas symfwna me ta legomena tou ironeagle, exei apla kai mono na kanei me opadiko misos kai oxi me koini logiki...
Exei mperdepsei ta opadika me ta ethnika kai tin kazoura kai den kserei ti leei..
IronEagle ·
Perito na sou po otan kerdise o Edessai'ikos ton PAOK, me proponiti ton aggelo anastasiadi (stin Edessa), panigiriza san trelos... ekei stin Germania!
Krima pou to 90% ton katoikon tis Kozanis kai tis eyriteris perioxis (Ptolema'i'da klp.) dilonoun prota Kozani, prota Ptolema'i'da kai meta PAOK!
Exo oli tin kali 8eleisi na sou ma8o merika pragmata, san pio mikros pou eisai, kai 8a sou ete8a dyo yparkta paradeigamata me ta Symbola, kai 8a eisoun pseytis ean mou eleges de se peirazei, .....'H adiaforos, ......'H anikseros! Apla prepei na exei kai tin 8elisi kapios na ma8eis 5 pragmata parapano, alla taytoxrona kai tin paideia! ...me aytin tin epilektiki sou omos antipara8asi, mallon de prokeite na simfonisei me kati, oso kai na prospa8o....
Kai afou o georgis dilonei oti to 8ema eksantli8ike, apaito apo tou moderator's na kleidosei!!!!
File akribos ayto, opos aloste kai sto Torino opou i misi einai AC Turin kai ena elaxisto pososto tis poli einai Juve...!! (Kai as to doune ayto kai se agone pou dinei i Juventus akoma kai sto Champios League... opos p.x. me tin Werder tis proalles opou to gipedo eitan misoadeio!) Alla telos panton eipame xreiazete 8elisi gia na ma8eis kati..., me to zori xorio den ginete!!!
Georgie-4- ·
Do you speak Greek ?
I ilikia me tis gnwseis kai tin paideia den paizei kanena rolo..esy thewreis ton eavto sou morfomeno (?) pou tha mou mathei merika pragmata, san pio mikros pou eimai ?
Gia ta symvola ksekinisame kai ftasame stin AC Turin..afou etsi einai akrivws, pane asxolisou me ton Edessaiko kai tous Katarraktes kai ase emas tous Thessalonikeis me ton PAOK mas kai ton Levko Pyrgo mas..
Alla itheles na peis, allou kateleikses...
Diladi eisai topikistis ?
BILLYS ·
H espanol phre to onoma ths giati otan idri8ike to 1900, oi tote omades ths barkelonhs eixan pollous 3enous, kai aytoi (foitites tou panepistimiou barkelonhs) 8elan na tonisoun to ispaniko stoixeio sthn omada tous. Alla3e merikes fores to onoma ths ews otou o tote basilias Alfonso o 13os,
tous apeneme ton titlo espanol giati goustare thn olh "filosofia" pisw apo to swmmateio.
e3ou kai to basiliko stema (ftou) sto logo tous....
artemios ·
file Georgie-4- dustixos egw uparxoun apires stigmes pou nio8w poio polu paok para ellinas otan sto petsi mas nio8oume thn adikia tou katestimenou xilies otan me fonazoun vourgaro xilies fores ota merikoi lene thn thessalonikh eparxeia kai ena soro
oso gia ton IronEagle malon den exei idea apo australia allios den 8a milisou gia ta sinbola tis makedonias
idika sthn australia
opos leei kai o kazantsidis edw me vonazoun ellina kai sthn patrida kseno
Georgie-4- ·
Artemie i adikia kai ta podosfairika einai allo thema..
To kalytero paradeigma ta syllaltitiria gia tin Makedonia stin Athina..avti pou se fwnazoun Voulgaro, evgainan kai fwnazan i Makedonia einai elliniki..
Min mperdevoume tin kazoura kai ta athlitika me ta ethnika zitimata..
Exoume deiksei polles fores sto parelthon pws i patrida mas enwnei..eite deksious eite aristerous..eite Paokia eite gay
IronEagle ·
Breeeeee.... poliksere giorgaki,
ELLINARA esy kai 8essalonikie, pou ama se rotiso pou ypiretises gia tin patrida kai pia esso eisai, 8a mou peis oti peires anaboli logou monimou katoikou eksoterikou breeeeee ELLINARA giorgakiiiiii..........!!!! Alla kata t'alla "pano ap'ola i patrida kai i ELLADA" kai ayto mallon pou exeis krifa esy sto myalo sou, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX !!!!
Bre poliksere, pou opote se synferei epikaleis tous syndesmou tou PAOK kai opote oxi, ka8ese kai tous katakrineis!!!!
Me petixes sta kala mou simera kai 8a katso na (prospa8iso) na sou to eksigiso!!!!
Brreeee.... goirgakiiiii, stin Ollandia yparxei mia omada, ena a8litiko somateio, me to onoma HERACLES! (Gia ta tangalakia tou forum = Hraklis)! Ayti i omada loipon exei edra to Nijmegen (nomizo, den eimai sigouros, alla exei kai elaxisti simasia!!!), pantos agonizete sto prota8lima Ollandias!
Brrreeeeee giorgaki..... (Erotisi kano...??) ean se ekeini tin ollandiki poli loipon, zei kapios ELLINAS Hraklidaias, (prosekse to grafo analitikia gia tous an8ropous me idikes anages..., Hraklidaias = Fila8los tou a8litikou somateiou Hraklis 8essalonikis!!!!), kai apofasisei loipon na idrisei ena syndesmo fila8lon ekei tou HRAKLH 8ESSALONIKHS oxi Tou Hercules...., kai bazei loipon ton imi8eo tis mi8ologias, kai san fonto tin Ollandia, 'H kalitera, to symbolo tis polis ekeinis....! Ama ton deis ayton ton typako na kobei boltes stin stin 8essaloniki ....'H sto Heidelberg (Krima pou i poli fimizete gia ta panepistimia tis), me mia blouza s.f Hraklhs Nijmegen,me symbola ton Hrakli kai ton xarti tis Ollandias, pou 8a paei re SPIRTO (..bregmeno!!!!) to myaloudaki sou? ? Emena pantos 8a paei se ollando tourista!!!!
Gia na sto kano akoma pio eyklolo....!!!
Breeeeee giorgaki, stin Ellada yparxei ena a8litiko somateio me to onoma Olymp iakos Piraios, kai ENA ALLO (mi ksana mperdepseis ton poutsa kai tin bourtsa) Olym piakos Bolou!!!
Ean tixon breeeeeee.... giorgaki deis pali enan typako me kokkini mplouza pou na grafei s.f. Oly mpiakos / Bolou kai exei san symbola ton arxaio ayton gay kai to sxima tou nomou Magnisias (N.Magnisias grafikos panemorfos nomos, me xaraktiristiko sxima tou nomou, ......etsi breeeee giorgaki na ma8eneis kai 5 pragmatkia, kalo 8a sou kanoun)..... esena pali pou 8a sou paei to myaloudaki sou to ermo...? ? Ston ka8aytou Oly mpiako, 'H mipos ston Ol ympiako Bolou....!!!!
Ti sxesi exei o s.f.gay piraios ston bolo, na apeikonizoun to nomo kai ton topo proeleysi aytou syndesmou, otan i omada ayti pou ypostirizoun einai ston bromo-piraia kai oxi ston bolo?? ?? Ekei, kalos 'H kakos yparxei allo somateio me to idio onoma!!!! ....KAI EDO EINAI H OLH PLAKA, allo somateio alla ME TO IDIO SHMA!!!!
Kai oso, an exei to dikaioma ka8e Ellinas na xrisimopiei ta ELLINIKOTATA ayta symbola, 8a sou apantiso me mia leksi! .....EKSARTATE!!!!
Breeee giorgaki an ayrio me8ayrio kana 5-10 akra-akra-akra-akrodeksia PAOKTSHDES, apofsisoun na idrisoun ena silogo o opoios einai ak…
IronEagle ·
..........Sta arxidia mou kai mena pou den eimai apo ekei
fonazane bre giorgaakiiii.....!!!!
Eides pou den ta ksereis......