PAOK 2004-2005, Metagrafika nea kai skepseis-ektimiseis
Από το παλιό forum του PAOKWORLD (2002–2022) – μόνο για ανάγνωση.
TOTTI ·
FTANEI RE PAIDIA ME TON GAGA.KALOS PAIXTHS EINAI,MEGALH PSIXH K POLY PATHOS.ALLA RE PAIDIA MHN TROTE PARAMITHI TORA APO TA PALABA TOY,SE OPOIA OMADA K NA PAEI ETSI THA EINAI.DEN EXO AKOYSEI KANENAN NA LEEI KATI GIA TON BASILEIADH,POY EKTOS APO OTI EINAI O KALYTEROS 84ARHS THS ELLADAS EINAI K POLY PAOKTSHS.STON TELIKO ME TOYS EPISTHMONES TO 2001 STO GKOYMAS DIPLA MOY HTANE
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MAGKES XALARA SHMERA STO MPASKET ETSI ITHELE.MIA KALH PROPONHSH GIA TO SHMANTIKOTATO MATS ME THN AEK.O MOYLA SE 20 LEPTA EBALE 21 PONTOYS,OXTO ASIST,MALLON H ANEMOBLOGIA TOY PERASE GIA TA KALA...O MAGLOS SE 6 LEPTA POY EPAIKSE EKANE 4 FAOYL.RE MAGLO,RE AGORI MOY...KSEREI KANEIS AN EIXE KOSMO?
THN PARASKEYH H KLHRVSH,OI PITHANOI ANTIPALOI EINAI:HERMOFARM(SERBIA),CHOLET(GALLIA),LUKOIL(BOYLGARIA),VARESE(ITALIA),DKV JOVENTUT(ISPANIA).KSISTARXIDIA SOY ME GASMA DHLADH.GIA THN VARESE POY PAIZEI EDO KSERO NA SAS PO,TPT IDIAITERO PAIZEI O MENEGKIN K O GNOSTOS MAS NOLAN.ANTE PAME GERA
PERASAN K TA BROMOSKOYLIKA APO KOLOFARDIA,ALLA THA PAIKSOYN ME THN KALYTERH OMADA TOY TOYRNOYA,MIA LITHOYANIKH
kostas4 ·
opoioi einai ligo pio mesa sta tou mpasket tha katalavoun giati to eipa auto.vazelos,hra,ment xathikan exaitias tou kai mono.kai metagrafes mporoun na ginoun xwris na fygei kaneis.i ypoloipi xronia den mporei na paei me maglo kai maurokefalidi gia 5aria.o PAOK kai fetos tha kinithei sin metriotita kai kapoioi theloun na mas ta perasoun alliws.tespa.
TOTTI ·
DEN YPARXEI BARY PENTARI STO SYGXRONO MPASKET RE FILE,STIL BRANKOBITS FASOYLA ENNOO.O PAO EXEI TON FEMERLINK K O GABROS AYTO TO ZOO POY PHRE TORA.SYMFONO OTI XREIAZETAI ENAS PSILOS AKOMA,GIATI O TRAYMATISMOS TOY MPASMINOF MAS GAMHSE.MHN AKOYO KATI GIA SXORTSIANITH K BLAKEIES OMOS.APLA TO THEMA EINAI AMA KLHROTHOYME ME KAMIA DYNAMO MOSXAS NA DO POIOS THA MARKAREI TON LAZARO,MONO EKEI SYMFONO OTI XREIAZETAI BARY PENTARI.PANTOS METAGRAFH 4-5ARIOY XREIAZETAI OPOSDHPOTE
TOTTI ·
PARELEIPSA STO SHMEIO POY ELEGA GIA TA SENTER PAO K GABROY,NA PO OTI MONO AYTOI EXOYN BARIA SENTER.EKTOS AN THEOREIS TON GLYNIADAKH THS AEK SOBARO PAIXTH
schumi ·
pragmati.senter styl sxortsianith kai paparies einai kseperasmena.ego pisteuo oti h xronia me maglo,maurokefalidh,nilsen bgainei kala.o maglos einai polu kalos alla den paizei polu.an arxizei na paizei na deis pos tha nebei.na mou to thimitheis
liakos ·
Για τον Σχορτσιανίτη έχω διαφορετική άποψη.
Δεν είναι αυτό που λέμε "το βαρύ 5άρι". Έχει μεγάλη εκρηκτικότητα παρά τα κιλά του. Και είναι 2.05, όχι 2.15.
Μπορεί να αφήσει εποχή το παιδί. Υπάρχει πραγματικά ενδεχόμενο να τον πάρουμε;
arrwstos4 ·
re liakos an den einai vary 5ari o sxortsianitis,poios einai??aytos einai gourouni.ki apo ekrhktikothta allo tipota.eixa dei ton agwna arhs-makedonikos,kai eixe parei paramazwma tis pinakides mprosta ston pago tou arh,kai oi sympaiktes tou eixan tromokratithei.
einai vary 5ari apla einai kontos gi'ayth th thesi
apostolos ·
Xairetw. Prwto post. Kathara basketikos, alla fetos logw ekswterikou (kai polu makria malista) den exw dei oute ena mats ths omadas. O,ti diavazw sta site mono. Alla mia kai milame gia paiktes, makran o noumero 1 ayths ths omados me tis megaluteres prooptikes einai o Vasilopoulos. Parathrhste ta statistika tou. Eite ligous pontous exei eite pollous, spania exei astoxia kai kanei polu liga lathh.Einai athorybos aplws akoma den tou exoun vgei ta megala paixnidia. Se osa epiase ypshlh apodosh olh omada anebhke katakoryfa. Deyterh sympatheia Manwlopoulos. Auton den ton exw dei katholou men, alla exw thn aisthhsh oti prepei na parei mats kai amesws tha apogeiwthei. Apo ksenous (ektos Moula fysika) Nilsen. O typos forward pou mou aresei perissotero. Ti hthele ayth h omada? Kaka ta psemmata. Me ksenous (amerikanous ennow) typou Mey kai tous persinous den ginetai na pas polu pshla. Thymaste oloi polu kala ti exei perasei apo ayth thn omada. Fantasou twra na eixes ena 3ari ths prokophs kseno me 15-20 pontous to mats kai proswpikothta. Kamia sxesh. Alla logw budget mexri ekei eimaste toulaxiston gia fetos. Opws leei ki o Bane: Ypomonh. Siga siga. Kalutera se 3-4 xronia omadara xwris xreh para twra kai na xoume pali ta idia. Gia mena twra pou allaksan ta pragmata me FIBA ULEB o stoxos einai na paiksoume Eurwliga to suntomotero.Kai meta vlepoume. Xairetismous apo Apw Anatolh.
alexisv ·
Αρκετές αλλαγές σκέφτεται στον ΠΑΟΚ ο Μπάνε Πρέλιεβιτς. Και αυτό γιατί ο Δικέφαλος κατάφερε να πάρει το εισιτήριο της πρόκρισης για τους «16» του ULEB Cup.
Σύμφωνα με πληροφορίες σκέφτεται να απομακρύνουν τον Τζέιμς Μέγιε, ενώ θέλουν την ενίσχυση της ρακέτας, ώστε η ομάδα να γίνει πιο μαχητική αποκτώντας ακόμη μεγαλύτερη δυναμική. Οι «ασπρόμαυροι» έχουν ήδη στη σκέψη τους την κλήρωση της Παρασκευής στη Βαρκελώνη από την οποία θα προκύψει η αντίπαλος τους για την επόμενη φάση του ULEB Cup.
www.mpa.gr
EPITELOUS!!!!
kostas4 ·
apostole kalwsirthes sto forum.o manwlopoulos paizei opote yparxei eukairia.sto tournoua efivwn tis varkelwnis vgike prwtos kai ston teleutaio agwna sto uleb cup eixe 9 pontous(den eida to paixnidi).pisteuw oti ean synexisei na douleuei mporei na petyxei kai to onoma tou akougetai poly.
kai egw akousa simera gia metagrafi sto mpasket kai logika tha einai 5ari.o maye tha fygei epeidi apla den prosferei tipota epeidi den yparxei eleutheri thesi gia auton oute stin 2i omda.
apostolos ·
Ti legame tis proalles? Nata twra. Maye leei: 4 pontoi! Dhladh den thymamai na perase tous 10 se kapoio paixnidi fetos. Pragmatika giati na exeis enan tetoio kseno? Poio to nohma? Giati den vazeis ta pitsirikia ki o,ti vgei. Dhladh xeirotera na ta pane apokleietai. Den uparxei periptwsh. O skopos tou na exei ksenous mia omada einai na anevazoun katakorufa thn apodosh ths kai na kanoun pragmata pou duskola kapoios Ellhnas mporei na kanei. An einai na exeis ksenous xeiroterous apo tous Ellhnes poios o logos? Ki an theleis nte kai kala kseno pare ena Yugo talentaki gyrw sta 20 pou tha sai sigouros oti tha sou paiksei kati kai sthse etsi thn omada. Alliws giati na sou trwei xrono apo ta pitsirikia o x amerikanos pou tha fygei se 5 mhnes kai den tha ton thymatai kaneis? Kai me ton Basminov ta pragmata den phgan kai polu kala. Kai traumatisthke kai den mas vghke.Pantws h pragmatikh atyxia htan to kalokairi me ton Grgat. Den einai kai Radja vevaia, alla to ti mporei na kanei einai gnwsto kai hkseres pou pas me ayton. Telospantwn, na poume kai sygxarhthria gia th nikh me aekaki ki oso gia th Sole, den fovamai egw Gallous, pelates mia zwh...
arrwstos4 ·
xthes mporei na mhn evale pollous pontous,alla ksekinhse thn antepithesi tou paok.eklepse mia fora thn mpala kai karfwse.meta edwse fystiki ston lolis kai pali aifnidiasmo...kai kati akoma kalo ekane,alla sigoura xreiazomaste allon mayro pou na mporei na parei mia kalh prospatheia otan den paizei kala o moula,opws xthes sto 1o hmixrono.ena 5ari san ton syxgwremeno ton mcrae theloume.pws thn karfwne etsi thn poutana...
apostolos ·
Conrand e? Wraios o makariths. Eklaige mesa sta apoduthria tou SEF meta to triponto tou Stojakovic to 98 kai tou fwnaze o Giannoulis klapse maure!!! Ta thymasai? Wraia pragmata. Egw phgaina kai ton allon ton skularapa ton Boner tote epi Skails. Ti 4ari htan auto re? Ti alma, ti builderi kai tromeros amuntikos gemize ti raketa monos tou. Isws to kalutero basket pou exei paiksei o PAOK se ekeina ta play offs tou 97. Apistyeta pragmata. Me Debs deytero kseno kai Peja traumatia. Kai kaname plaka sto vazelo kai thn pathsame gia ena kalathi apo thn aek tou akatanomastou. Me kati aisxh tou Mamagiola pou den eixe xasei sout se ena mats hmouna mesa tote. Gia titlo hmastan tote kanonika. Poses atuyxies ayth h omada? Th mish kwlofardia na eixame tha eixame 2 eyrwpaika akoma kai toulaxiston 3 prwtathlhmata. Kai to paradexontai oloi auto. Eidika filoi Athhnaioi pou exw kati vazeloi basketikoi paradexontai oti aksizame polla parapanw. Kala apo skoulhkia den perimenw na akousw tetoia pragmata. Oso gia gaurous ti na pei kaneis? Tous dwsane mia mera mia mpalla tou basket kai thn phgane sto giatro na th dei giati nomizane oti ta spuria htan apo kamia anemovlogia...
eagle ·
kalos einai kai o mei.kanei douleia pou den fenontai polu kai gia ayo gkriniazei o kosmos.exei petyxei kathoristikous pontous se krisima paixnidia.tha ithela omws na dw kai to nearo to 16xrono to manolwpoulo na pairnei eykairies estw gia liga lepta.na arxisei na mpainei sto noima tis omadas kai aytos.xreiazomaste kai ena center dystyxws.eimaste olo atyxoi.traymatiske o rwssos kai prepei na paroume allo.
alexisv ·
Popo. Ti me thimises re apostole.
To eiha dei auto to triponto pano apo 20 fores kai den mposrousa na to hortaso. Magikes stigmes kai makari na tis xanazisoume. Ehoume pistebo tis dinamis apla ligi tihi na ehoume gia to ipolipo tis hronias kai ohi allous traumatismous.
Tora gia ton mei, to kalokairi prepi na figi. Pros to paron den mas keei nomizo. Auto pou theloume pio poli auti tin stigmi einai ena kalo pentari.
Diggler ·
kamia metagrafn psulou?
Paizete kanena onoma meta ton traumatismo tou Bashminov ?
TOTTI ·
tipota re file k me anisixei.eno i omada exei poly kales prodiagrafes,blepo mia astatheia k mia emfani anagkh gia metagrafi,an k pisteyo ola ta lefta einai ta plei of sta opoia o rosos tha einai paron.fetos diakrino mia allagh sto paixnidi toy kosta balileiadh,o opoios exei beltiothei poly amyntika den pairnei toses prospatheies oses persi,apo tis opoies oi mises htan bebiasmenes.kati 4/11 triponta as poyme den yparxoyn pleon k kymainetai stoys 10-15 pontoys sto mats.
pisteyo omos pos etsi poy o mpane toy edose ti fanela me to 7 stin plati,etsi prepei na ton kanei na niosei siga siga oti aytos tha einai o epomenos igeths ths omadas,kapote o moyla tha figei i tha stamathsei.sti fetinh xronia nomizo oti antapokrinetai poly sosta,exei orimasei arketa diladi,alla siga siga prepei na arxisei na pairnei ta pano toy.
epidh ton ksero k prosopika k exoyme paiksei k antipaloi na kserete oti exei ola ta prosonta na ginei o epomenos igeths toy paok.milame gia ton kalytero 84arh ths ellados k gia ena paidi poy einai arrostos me ton paok.
to 2001 sto gkoymas ston teliko toy kypelloy parea fonazame:kathe olimpiakos einai k poytanas gios..
gera kostakh k to oneiro soy de th arghsei na ginei pragmatikothta...
m'ena oneiro tha zo,to pa ston trelogiatro,na se psila ekei ksana protathlith
eagle ·
ontws prepei na paroume pentari opws eipa kia alli fora.lene tha diakopsoun to simvolaio me to rwsso kai tha psaksoume enan amerikano.o mei kalo tha itan na fygei to kalokairi kai na paroume ena kalytero,mas tin ekane kai o paouel perisi.itan kalos paiktis kai nearos polu.molis 22.ena tetoio na vroume kai ena pentari.
TOTTI ·
koitoysa prin paides ta statistika ths omadas ston proto gyro toy protathlimatos k diapistos oti ysteroyme sto ribaount,eksoy k i anagkh gia metagrafi enos psiloy paixth.gia osoys gnorizoyn apo basket bebaia to 80% toy ribaount einai to mplok(blepe basileiadh,basilopoylo).o nielsen loipon katebazei 6 ribaoynt sto mats k einai o protos tis omadas!!!!me 6 rib meso oro!!!
5 katebazoyn o tamir k o basileiadhs(mprabo re kostaki) k 4.3 o basilopoylos.a,k 2.5 o mei.ase mas re mei.opos katalabainete loipon logo poly oloi pidame gia ta skoypidia giati allios einai xlomi i katastasi.
episis einai ekpliktiko oi 6.6 asist toy moyla alla k ta 4 lathi se kathe mats...
o tamir exei meso oro 7.6 pontoys se 20 lepta meso oro.ayto ofeiletai basika sta arxika paixnidia poy logo toy mpasminof eixe mikroterh symmetoxi,arxizei k anebainei tora.
o basilopoylos einai o paixtis poy pragmatika prosferei se oloys toys tomeis me 24' symmetoxi eno o ksenos tis omadas mas?se 18' m.o grafei 5 pontoys k katebazei 2.5 rib.
den exi kati me to paidi,ayto isos mporei ayto prosferei.
ayta re paokares apton proto gyro,pame gi'alla tora!!!
m'ena oneiro tha zo,to pa sotn trelogiatro,na se dopsilaekei ksana protathlith