3h 8esh: Mhpos krybei MEGALH pagida ? & o entos edras agonas gia tous prokrimatikous sto CL(toumpa ksan8h kypro?)

[Suicidal]

Kat'arxhn na pw pws ayto to topic 8a einai anousio kata ton Aygousto an me to kalo *kai paw POLY makria twra alla koubenta na ginete* 8a ginei to oneiro pragmatikotita kai bre8oume kapoia mera na parakolou8ame zwntana -trogontas ta nyxia mas kai exontas stomaxikes diataraxes- thn klhrwsh twn omilwn CL gia thn saison 04/05.
 
 Phra thn apofash na anoiksw ayto to topic giati edw kai 1-2 mhnes twra akouw/diabazw synexeia gia thn 3h 8esh pou odhgei sto C.L. . Gia thn 8esh pou odhgei sta xrhmata gia thn 8esh pou odhgei sta eyrwpaika salonia, gia, gia kai pappou.... Kai oloi gnwrizoume to gegonos oti 8a ksekinisoume tis TYXON ypoxrewseis mas (mallon) san isxyros kontra se kapoin "ypoti8emeno" ypodyestero antipalo. Ws edw ok. Ekana ton kopo na riksw mia matia sta site ths fifa kai ths uefa TI SOI antipalous 8a mporouse na mas ferei h klhrwsh. Ta parakatw endiktika  apo ta site, mas dinoun ena paradeigma ti mporei na paixtei leipon.
 
 Perish ston 2o prokrimatiko gyro ksekinisan px omades opws h Celtic h Slavia  h Rosenborg h Anderlecht .
 Ston 3o prokrimatiko proste8ikan omades opws h Rangers, h Mpriz, h Benfica, h Newcastle. Kai dialeksa aytes tou 3ou gyrou giati paiksan me dynatoterous antipalous ara kai pi8anon (Panta statistika milaw giati tou xronou sigoura den 8a einai akribos aytes oi omades, apla 8elw na tonisw to epipedo ok?) antipaloi mas. To 2002/03 exoume idia paradeigmata me omades "ypodiaisteres" opws o Feyenoord, h Fenerbahce, h Sporting Lissabonas, h Sparta Pragas.  Eimaste leipon TOOOOSO sigouroi oti den 8a pa8oume patatrak kalokairiatika opws px to xanoumi me thn AIK Stockholmis h h Dortmund fetos me thn Mpriz?Den lew , to ti 8a ginete se tyxwn mats sthn Toumpa kai sto ektos den 8a perigrafete alla mhn ksexname kai thn piesh prokrishs pasa 8ysia.
 
 Den 8elw na fanw kachipoptos alla ola ayta se tyxwn senario pou paiksoume me to kalo (ftou ftou) 3o prokr. me kanoun na noiw8w 8ymo gia thn esto mh-anafora oti h 3h 8esh sto prwta8lima DEN einai to sigouro eisitirio sta salonia tou CL.
 
 Poly 8a h8ela na moirastite ton problimatismo mou giayto to 8ema , kai makari na bgei olo ayto to topic kapoia mera AXRHSTO. xexe , den ksereis pote isws bgoume kai 2h sto prwta8lima   , oso zw elpizw.....
 
 Kai mono h IDEA oti anti na kouniete to sentoni sthn Toumpa , 8a exoume kounisei emeis mantili kai 8a bolodernoume stous omilous (apo tou xronou an den kanw la8os) tou UEFA me trellainei....

[AK4]

Akrivos opos ta les ine ta pragmata file.
Otan me to kalo boume stin klirosi gia ton trito prokrimatiko giro,distihos den nomizo pos prolavenoume na vgoume defteri,
tha hriastoume ena ke mono pragma..LUCK !!!
Ime sigouros,kalos i kakos,pos o PAOK tha ine enas apo tous
pleon perizititous "ishirous" metaxi ton "adinaton".Osi parakolouthoun to C.L. apo konta sigoura xeroun...
Afto vevea de simeni oti imaste hameni apo heri.Sigoura tha iparhoun ke omades sta metra mas.I tihi mas hriazete gia na min pesoume me ti mia se kanena vouno.
Theoro elafros atihes to paradigma tis hanoumisas me tin AIK.
Mia analogi omada tha tin perasoume emis mono me to pathos
mas.Ki an ohi ton pekton mas,katalavenete pion .
Pantos,as imaste geri os tote,to proto vima ine na katohirosoume ti simetohi mas sta prokrimatika.Mehri tote bori na kilisi poli nero st' avlaki....

[nomercy4]

poli swsti i paratirisi...kai polloi exoume parasirthei kai panigirizoume.Omws!!!estw kai pou tha paiksoume se prokrimatikous tha paroume tosa lefta gia na vgaloume aneta mia xronia kai giati oxi na stirixthoume panw se auta ta lefta wste siga siga na ginomaste oikonomika dinatoi.toulaxiston egw gia auto euxomoun na vgei o Paok tritos.giati kai sentoni tha kounithei sti toumpa alla kai giati tha anaptixthei oikonomika.an twra me to kalo mporesoume kai prokrithoume tote eilikrina kai 7ares na faw de me noiazei(an kai auta ta apotelesmata einai sima katatethen tou gay-rou).mono pou tha eimai mesa sti toumpa me xiliades lao trelameno kai tha paizei o imnos tou cl kai tha kounietai to sentoni me kanei na "teleiwnw" lol.
KAI TI WRAIA POU THA TENTWNEI MES TI TOUMPA TO SENTONI

[Ouzounis]

Eixa diavasei oti H UEFA ithele na alaksei to sistima pou evlepe tous hamenous tou 3tou gyrou prokrimatika tou CL  na benoun kateuthian sto  proto gyro UEFA CUP. Dld na mhn exei  kamia sxesei h mia diorganwsh me thn allh....Otan xaneis apo CL...pas spitaki sou kai "that's it"..

Xerei kaneis tipota???

[Londrezos]

Eixa kai egw ekfrasei aythn thn anhsyxia mou...
Se kati tetoia match ton PAOK mas to fovamai.
Kati h psyxologia kati to agxos sto telos ta xalame.

Anyway, Eidwmen...

[Davids-4-]

Egw proswpika pio poly fovame mia poly anisxyri omada,anyparkti para mia ''megali''.

Kai edw stin ellada as poume eimai sigouros oti aek kai pao tha toys nikisoyme enw stis mikres tha xoume provlima.

Den xerw pisteyw oti o Paok den tha meinei ap exw.Apla to pisteyw.Isws i psixologia isws to pathos....
Pantws re paidia tha ma ste  safws anwteroi omada me ta to kalokairi apo twra.
Skeftite:....

Me tin proipothesi oti o PAOK vgainei CL(asxeta an den mpei se omilous) den tha nai ena simantiko kinitro gia tous podosfairistes pou tha dextoun protaseis apo emas?
Egw pisteyw oti poloi tha nai aytoi pou tha rtoun kata TOYMPA meria me perissoteroi ''eykolia''

Valte ypopsin sas kai tin podosfairiki anaptyxi twn mikrwn pou einai poly axiosimeiwti.

Exw tin entypwsi oti o PAOK allazei epoxi apo to kalokairi....
 
 

[Passenger-4]

To thema einai na min vgoume mono fetos CL giati ontws yparxei i periptwsi kai na apokleistoume apo ta prokrimatika (kati pou fysika den theloume kan na to skeftomaste) To thema einai na isxyropoihsoume apo to kalokairi tin omada gia na vgainoume kathe xrono CL.

[petrovgr]

Egw pali den mporw na katalavw ti diafora metaksy mias ''yparktis'' omadas kai mias ''anyparktis''.An mporei as mou to eksigisei kanenas...

Einai omada pou termatise stis prwtes theseis? Exei perasei 2 prokrimatikous gyrous (dld den proerxetai apo kati perioxes typou san marino kai nisia feroe?) Exei paiktes ekatommyriwn? STHN TELIKH EXOUN OI PAIKTES TOUS DYO PODIA?


Re Paokares! Pws einai dynaton na thewroume sigouro oti tha perasoume stous omilous?
Re cs! Thymaste apo poia apokleisteikame fetos???
DEBRECEN!

Gia akouste to: D-E-B-R-E-C-E-N!!!!

Ti sas kanei na pisteyete oti tha eimaste kammia yperomada tou xronou pou tha mpoume stous omilous sto etsi?

Sigoura tha kanoume metagrafes,o kormos nomizw omws tha meinei xwris dramatikes allages.Etsi einai.Den tha ginoume juventus apo ti mia mera stin alli.

Xalarwste...
To champion's league simainei polla,alla oxi ta panta  

[Suicidal]

1.Egw pali den mporw na katalavw ti diafora metaksy mias ''yparktis'' omadas kai mias ''anyparktis''.An mporei as mou to eksigisei kanenas...

 2. STHN TELIKH EXOUN OI PAIKTES TOUS DYO PODIA?


 3.Re Paokares! Pws einai dynaton na thewroume sigouro oti tha perasoume stous omilous?
Re cs! Thymaste apo poia apokleisteikame fetos???
DEBRECEN!


 4.Ti sas kanei na pisteyete oti tha eimaste kammia yperomada tou xronou pou tha mpoume stous omilous sto etsi?

 
 
 
 1.
 Kata thn gnwmh mou:
 Allo mia Anderlecht,Benfica,Rangers,Mpriz,Rozenborg px.
 kai allo Zilina,Wisla,Vardar,Shakhtar
 
 
 2.
 Twra gia tous mayrous den mporw na s' orkistw kiolas posa podia exoun   Lene, oti merikoi exoun 3  
 
 
 3.
 Ksanadiabasa ola ta parapanw postings kai den eida oute enan na leei gia sigouria twn omilwn, isa isa oloi tous ligo poly ekfrazoun *fobies*. Ektos an kai esy me thn seira sou ekfrazeis thn prosoxh sou oson afora aythn thn sigouria genikos pou akougete edw kai 1-2 mhnes, tote paw paso.
 
 
 4.
 Ki edw isxyoun ta idia opws sto erwtima 3.

[kostas4]

fetos einai eukairia tou PAOK na kanei to kati parapanw.auto pou mexri twra den katafere POTE.akoma kai an apokleistoume apo tous omilous,pragma poly pithano,toulaxiston tha exoume prospathisei kai tha exei ginei i arxi.pantws egw pisteuw oti me opoia omada kai an paixoume tha perasoume.fantasteite ti tha ginete sto ektos...

[Passenger-4]

kostas4 dystyxws o laos mono den mporei na parei tin prokrisi...Giati s ola ta eurwpaika mats eixame kosmo kai "kataferame" na apokleistoume apo kati apithanes omades....As eksasfalisoume omws prwta tin triti thesi kai meta vlepoume tin ginete...ena ena ta vimata....

Billy ontws merikoi mauroi exoun tria podia

[Tolis1977]

Πιστεύω πως ο ενθουσιασμός μας για την φετινή πορεία του ΠΑΟΚ μας έχει κάνει υπερασιόδοξους και δεν κοιτάμε τους κινδύνους που μπορεί να κρύβονται από πίσω αλλά σκεφτόμαστε το πως θα τεντώνει μες στην Τούμπα το σεντόνι.
Αυτό που με νοιάζει πραγματικά είναι να βλέπω την αγαπημένη μας ομάδα να την βλέπω να εδραιώνεται στο cl και όχι μόνο φέτος.
Βέβαια, θα μου πείτε πως μπορεί να γίνει αυτό από τη στιγμή που τα φετινά "καμάρια" μας, κατάφεραν να ρίξουν την Ελλάδα στην βαθμολογία της UEFA και του χρόνου να κυνηγούν 2 ομάδες την έξοδο στο cl.Άρα, προβλέπεται μεγάλη σφαγή του χρόνου στο ελληνικό πρωτάθλημα.
Αλλά μέχρι τότε...έχει ο Θεός όπως λέει και ο Άγγελος.

[Diggler]

Oxi mono fetos Sto Champion League all tha exoume kai sunexeia.
Ta arpazoune alles omades ta lefta tou champion league tosa xronia (blepe gauro kai bazeles kai ligo to xanoumi) kai pali omada gia europi dev mporoun na kanoun alla monopoloun tis protes thesis gia to CL tosa xronia.
Me tin erxomeni eisodo mas sto CL tha alla3oun isoropies sto elliniko protathlima.
Perito na sas pw oti to xanouni tha einai mpaxalo kai tou xronou , alla prepei na skeutoume oti n erxomevn xronia tou CL tha einai n teleutaia stnv opoia n Ellada tha exei 3 omades sto CL kata pasa pithanotita tha tin xasoume , gia auto apo tou xronou theloume deuteri thesi kai pano


Nai re PAOK  

[Matador]

Egw eida x8es tis omadares sto Champions League kai melagxolisa. Entaxei 8a me peis htan prohmitelikos, alla paix8ike tromerh mpala sta Bayern-Real kai Celta Vigo-Arsenal.

Elpizw ean, pou 8a vgoume Champions League, oi paiktes mas na ypervalloun eautous.

Gnwmh mou einai oti mono ean vgoume se omilous 8a exoume kataferei kati to shmantiko. Den symfwnw oute symvivazome mono me ta prokrimatika.

[ALEX]

ego leo as vgume mia kai meta vlepume me pion tha pexume kai an tha perasume.

tora den nomizo na kanume megalo anoigma metagrafon ama den exume siguri thesi stus omilus giati tha einai ena akoma pisogirisma kai malista megalo pu tha prosthesi akoma perisotera exoda pu ama ta simpsifisume ta iparxonta xrei gamiseta kai afiseta tha eimaste pali.

na min exume mono to mialo mas poso pano eimaste apo to xanumo giati to egaleaki (asxeta an einai kai parexigisimo auto alla PAOK eimaste) einai pio konta.

[oykas2001]

Κάτι διάβασα χθες οτι θα υπάρξει πρόβλημα για τον τρίτο της βαθμολογίας (δηλ. εμάς ) με τα προκριματικά τον Αύγουστο, λόγω των Ολυμπιακών Αγώνων και της έλλειψης γηπέδων που να πληρούν τις προϋποθέσεις για C.L. Τι γνωρίζετε γι' αυτό;

[kostas4]

@oykas2001: Apo oti xerw oi agwnes stin thessaloniki ginontai stin arxi twn olympiankwn kai mono sto kautatzogleio(?).to deutero as to epivevaiwsei kapoios.opote logika me tin toumpa den tha exoume provlima.oso gia tis prodiagrafes tou gipedou,meta ta erga i toumpa tha tis plirei.

opos eipe o ALEX as vgoume kai vlepoume

[pavlosk]

Ok symfwnw oti ean vgoume tritoi kai paiksoume me omades styl mpritz tha exoume provlhma, auth vevaia einai h mia opsh tou nomismatos giati yparxei kai h allh pou leei oti me ligh tyxh klhronomaste me omada styl grashopper.

To thema einai oti milame gia PAOK kai o PAOK san omada einai ikanh gia ola!!!!! Na apokleei arsenal, na paizei sta isa thn bayern alla na trwei papares apo omades typou debrecen.

Pantws siga siga tha ftasoume kai ston augousto kai tha doume ti paizei.
Dioti panw apo 3 den vgainoume, oxi giati den mporoume alla giati den xanoun oi alloi 2 akatanomastoi.
Autoi einai ikanoi me ton A h ton B tropo na pane mono nikes mexri to metaksy tous paixnidi.

pavlosk

[Londrezos]

pavlosk: mono nikes mexri to metaksy tous paixnidi.

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Aytoi einai ikanoi na feroun isopalia kai na toys dwsoun apo 3 va8mous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ziaka]

I podospheriki agones tha ginoune sto Kaftanzoglio apo tis 11-Augoustou os stis 27-Augoustou (mikros telikos). To provlima ine oti stis Olympiakes polis den mporoune na ginonte agones podospherou (episimi i filiki) giati apogorevete apo tin Diethni Olympiaki Epitropi opos lei i EPO edo: http://www.epo.gr/detail.asp?e_article_id=2217&e_article_cat_id=3

Episis an vgoume triti, tha prepi na dosoume ton prokrimatiko agona stis 10/11 Augoustou i stis 24/25 Augoustou. Diladi o prokrimatikos agonas den tha mpori na gini stin Thessaloniki!!!!!

Akoma an i Salpiggidis, Karypidis kai Vaggelis ine meli tis Olympiakis omadas, tha ine dyskolo na paiksoune me ton PAOK ston prorimatiko gyro tou CL.