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Hello Paok funs!
Greetings from Debrecen, Hungary! We are the biggest!! Unfortunately, you have no chance on Thursday! ;)
DVSC Forever!!!!!
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Get ready to swallow your tongue,we will win u 4 times,2 times on football ground,2 times outside (meaning the funs)
See u in Debrecen,we will come in thousands,we will turn the night into day....take your fotocamera,u will see the crazy PAOK hooligans in action ;) :b&w: :b&w:
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Dragon4! After the first match you wont want to come to Hungary...paok-loki: 1-2!!!!!
Our funs are maniac!!! Check it: www.szud.lapja.hu!
Get ready for the Hell in Debrecen!! However, keep your paok scarf for change! ;)
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hahahahahhahaha!nice joke. maniacs?hehehehehe.ok remember that day ...u said ABOUT MANIACS...u will see what is maniac...if u entered on football field.cause ur stadium is so small about us. in case we lost in thessaloniki maybe they will not come from greece... but the problem for u is that we will come from germany england france austria and so many other countries. I hope that u will be calm in other case...u will change town...
PAOK FANATICS U.K WE ARE COMING AND WE ARE COMING..WITH ONE TARGET...TO CUM IN YOUR TOWN...
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taseos! you are welcome in Debrecen! but you cannot win in our home! it is impossible, in the hungarian league and in the uefa cup as well....many-many teams have already tried it...but...the result is always the same in Debrecen: we won always in Debrecen!!!!! remember my words after the matches!
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ok i will remember it. but remember that we will not play in hungury.we will have the majority of the ground.cause we will be more than ur fans that day. but do u know if we need a visa to come from european union in ur country?
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no visa is required for eu citizens
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taseos! do not worry, no visa is required.
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ok my friend u are welcome to drink a coffee with us in ur town. maybe u know better ur country from us i mean for night life.but maybe we will spend the our night at the capital of ur country and we will find somebody to show us how we can spend our night:-)...
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best Hungarian beers: Borsodi, Arany Aszok
best pub in Debrecen: Tornado Western Pub
best night club in the capital: Marylin
best pub in the capital: cactus Juice
:)
when you see our girls you will want to go home never!!! :)
Loki forever!!!
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hehehehe. i see hungurian girls every summer in greece. nothinh special.expect the fact that they are crazy about cock:-) hehehehe. have a nice day my friend if u want my email send me a private msg via my profil options in forum:-) take care
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nothing special????!!!????? maybe, you are a priest? :))
anyway, I like the greek ones too :))
where are you staying? it seems to be, you are not in Greece nowadays...
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i live in london.and i will come with our club here by bus. we will stay in prague and in budapest:-) when i say nothing special i mean that is not something so difficult to fuck a hungurian girl. so yeah ur country is nice mainly the capital.i dont know ur town.offcourse and u have nice girls.
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budapest is nothing, compare to debrecen. debrecen is the life!!! :)
budapest is a dirty traffic jamed town with fucking ftc funs :)) in spite of this, I work in Budapest :) :) :)
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u work 240 km from ur home???????oh my god. kill yourself
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i lived in Budapest so I do not make the route everyday :) however, every home match is an away match for me :)
I was in England two times, I was attending on Arsenal-Middlesborough and Sheffield Utd-Leicester matches!
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do u have hotels in ur town?do u know any site to see prices and names of hotels in ur town?
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http://www.travel-hotels-europe.com/hajdu-bihar-hotels/debrecen-hotels-1.htm
http://www.hungary-hotelsonline.com/Debrecen/
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do u know the hour and date exactly of the match in ur country?
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As I know 27 Nov, 20 hrs
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Mr. Funthomas you said you will beat us this week. What time did you see that dream. Because that's what it is a dream. We will not lose this game and PAOK is not Varteks.
You also said we'd rather not attend the second leg in Hungary if we lose this week. Obviously you don't know who PAOK fans are. We are the kings of Europe with fans.
Good luck to your team but I don't see your team progressing to the next round.
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Funthomas you must know one thing.PAOK fans will go anywhere in the world even if we have lost 0-4 at home.(this never happened).We will come in your city from all over europe.And the bad for you is that we will come by buses!this means that you will have to face thousands of crazy PAOK fans.You dont know what PAOK fans means...yet.. 8)
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@ Funthomas
my friend i hope we lost the first play (but tha will be never hapens) this week against you because the party in debrecen will be for us a positive-flash in expontial xexexxexexexe. the printing-tickets will be not enouth for paok-fans and i mean not the 20% (gastfans) of capacity your stadium, i meen the 80 % because the 20 % will get the loki supporter xexexexe
oute ena isitirio stous ungrus reeeeeeeeee
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Gentlemans!
Be sure, we will wait for the next round draw :)
I would be very happy if you come to Debrecen in massive crew! You will like our city, our funs!
sorry, our stadium is small, probably you get 800-1000 tickets maximum!! without valid tickets you have no chance to enter. remains the street! :) on the pitch we will win!!!!!! our funs are fanatics similar to yours, interesting meeting is coming!!!
CSAK A LOKI ERTED ELEK EEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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800 TICKETS?only for U.K we will be(only that i know with my company) about 50... there are other 2 big trips from here plus the individuals plus the fans from germany and zirich and greece. in greece we use a word... NTOU! u will see that we will be all of us in the stadium.i dont know if u will be:-) we will discuss this in the stadium.and if we want u will be enter in the stadium:-0 THESE ARE PAOK RULES OVER EUROPE. NO CHANCE.800? NICE JOKE...
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mobile seats are under discussions nowadays, but it does not mean that you will get more tickets, belive or not: max 800...
I agree with you that this is not fair for clubs with huge funs but, as I know, uefa also regulars the number of tickets for funs from abroad, I remember a 10 percentage of the stadium capacity...
I am happy we gained Paok, sympatic club with real funs, however, we are the biggest!!! you have no chance, sorry :) this year is the year of LOKI!!!!!!! you will be surprised when we start our fighting hymns: CIVISVAAAAAAAAAAArOOOOOSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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fighting hymns?hehehhe.namely, we will play knights and warriors. nice nice. hahahahahahahaha. ok mate. imagine what r u imagine, but we r not italians,english or germans, we are greeks and u will see the difference soon;-)
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Ok, I wait for your performance, but do not be so disappointed when you face our volume, coreography and greek fires ;)
csak a loki erted elek eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnn!
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Hi,
first of all, i want to thank you for the great hints (about the important locations in debrecen...)
I hope we will met each other in debrecen...(wanna change the scarfs?)
so long
greetings from munich
Conan, the man from Kimmeria
PS: Sorry about my english...it´s sooooooooooooo fucking bad...
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800 tickets is not enough. Your talking about PAOK fans not Arsenal or Manchester Utd Fans who never travel with big numbers.
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Conan! You are welcome in Debrecen on 27/12/03! Munich is nothing in beauty compare to Debrecen! You will love it! Little, nice town in the heart of Europe! ;) But in the stadium you will taste the Hell! We are the biggest funs in Hungary!
scarf change: of course, we can discuss it!
HAJRA LOKI!!!!!!!!!
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Paok funs!
I have heard about your match against AEK. What happened?
My team has arrived in Saloniki. Funs are on the route. 130 people by air, approx. 200 by cars and microbuses. And I am here in the fu..ing office..... :'(
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Nothing happened ! We went there by apprx. 800-900...
showed them HOW to support your team , even if there are big problems with the owner of the club or you lose the match 3:1 and went home. aek has the same problems with the directors and the trainer and didn't make it to fill a 4000 places ground. poor....
There were only a few incidents between the aek fans (pro and anti advocates of their trainer).
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Conan! You are welcome in Debrecen on 27/12/03! Munich is nothing in beauty compare to Debrecen! You will love it! Little, nice town in the heart of Europe! ;) But in the stadium you will taste the Hell! We are the biggest funs in Hungary!
scarf change: of course, we can discuss it!
HAJRA LOKI!!!!!!!!!
The real hell is in saloniki, and it is called toumba. Your mates will experience what I'm talking about. Greek fans (and especially the ÐÁÏÊôóÞäåò) are different than anything you know........
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What does ÐÁÏÊôóÞäåò mean? Are they ultras or hooligans?
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I have received the information that the first LOKI funs are in Saloniki!!!!!!!! Your city is under attack!!! ;)
HAJRAAAAAAAAAA LOKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey funtomas .... keep cool .... :06:
under attack ? I hope you ment it cynical !
When your fans didn't look for trouble everything will be calm !
But it will be not good if they will provoke "anything" ....
'Cause one time they will escape, two times ..... 8)
Saloniki's streets are good known by our guys ;)
Btw , Paoktsides doesn't mean fan of PAOK and not ultra of PAOK and not hooligan of PAOK .....
++++It means PAOK++++
.... HUMAN PAOK
.... SOUL PAOK
.... HEART PAOK
PAOK MY VIRUS
I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY
'CAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT I FEEL FOR YOU
:hb::b&w: :b&w:
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Funthomas,
what are you doing in the camp of the enemy?! :o
PAOK funs,
I know you are quiet good, and your team has big reputation, BUT we will wait the next draw! You should learn the name of DVSC very well! You will hear a lot about us in the next few years! 8)
Anyway, we will see it tomorrow! I can not wait the kick-off, and it is my personal shame that I have to sit in my office instead of the plane to the Greek-hell.... :16:
CSAK A LOKI!!!!
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Bill! Do not worry, our funs will not provocate greek people. We are friendly, but we are never running away! 8)
Good luck for tomorrow! We are the best! LOKI FOREVER!
Salonika! The Red-White Army is coming!!! You will never forget us!!!
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@delta09:
So let me ask YOU what you are doing in the enemy's camp...
Delta , everyone is welcome if he is not provoking or curse against our big addiction PAOK ....
Forget about the next few years and come to the presence, in 2 weeks everything will be over :P
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Bill, I do not let my mate (F.) to get lost! ;)
Let's discuss the presence and the future after the first leg! Till the end of the first match you can be optimistic, after that you can only dream about an UEFA matc in spring! :15:
Csak a LOKI!!!!!
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ok , let's see ...... :o
I hope you will still visit us after the re-match in HU ;D
Ah, we already prepare our short-sleeved dresses for February..... ;)
:hb: PAOK TILL MY LAST BREATH :hb:
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Bill! Do u have only 1 1/2 days...and then GAME OVER! :P
U don't know us, we are dangerous! Sorry, this is your last round...
You cannot stop our team, but this is not your mistake, this is the KARMA OF LOKI!
CIVISVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAROS!!!!!!!!!!
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...wet dreams...
Bye !
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Wait and see.....
BTW: Your colours are not well liked in salonica. Hopefully, you're aware of that fact. ;D
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your color is neutral in Hungary, but if you would be green-white...well.... 8)
red-white is more beautiful than black-white ;) but, I agree, your feeling will be black(-white) after the first match ;)
after 29 hours you are allowed to face THE MAGIC OF LOKI!!!
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personally, i don't like green/white either..... and your enemies of ferencvaros are friends of rapid Vienna who are the worst enemies of my favourite club in Austria.
Fuck everything green and alomost anything red! ;D
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@ funthomas
My friend you do honour your nickname !
Almost everything you wrote really makes me laugh.
Here are some comments and "tips" for you and your friends.
Your town is in the centre of Europe ????????????????
Since there is no international airport for me it's in the middle
of fucking nowhere man.This always seem to be the problem
with this bloody (ex?)Eastern European teams....,problem of course for others,not for PAOK funs.
I do like your confidence though about the outcome of our games.Did your team -ever- advance to the 3rd round ??
Of course you will -ever- will but not this year honey :-*
You will consider exchanging scarves?? Think twice before YOU
offer your -unfortunately- hated colours to one of us......
I hope it's not too late but PLEASE inform your friends traveling to Thessaloniki to be very QUITE on the streets and try to keep a very low profile.All the other bullshit about red armys keep it for you...Your European expirience is so little and certainly not enough to know what you are talking about!
I don't know why but this "loki" really irritates my ears...it sounds more like a name of a hooker.
There is much more to tell you but I have to go now.I 'm sure
will talk again after your reply...
The only thing I couldn't figure out for sure is whether you were trying to be funny (which you didn't succed) or provocative (in my eyes you did succed).
If I 'm mistaken I apologize to you.If not.....beware >:(
I did meet people from your country before,more than once.
I know that you feel supirior to "lower" rases (blacks,asians...)
Now it's us you 're dealing with.First warning.OVER.
Cheers
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HAJRΑ LOKI!
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hajra loki ?
PAOK GAMA
(PAOK FUCK)
TIN OUGRIKI POUTANA
(THE HUNGARIAN BITCH)
It sounds very good when you sing it in Greek.I 'm sure you will try it yourself and even like it.Actually,LOVE IT :-*
PAOK GAMA - TIN OUGRIKI POUTANA
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Pray
Always
On
Knee
Ehhhe.
HAJRΑ DEBRECEN!!!
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Get ready for "gousta" poor little debrecen...
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I 'll be on my knees.....
sitting on your chest.....
waiting for you to suck....
and swallow......everything
.....and then,you 'll BEG for more ;)
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where's greece?
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there is one good thing in greece (wherever it is...).
and that is not you ak4!
HAJRΑ LOKI!
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So,my intellectual friend,you don't know where Greece is ?
No problem,soon,you are about to find out where Thessaloniki
is.
Btw,in your village,at school (if you have some) did they only
teach you RUSSIAN geography ??
I almost forgot....loki ??? loki ????
PAOK GAMA TIN OUGRIKI POUTANA
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who is thessaloniki?
i only know russian people you know...
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where's greece?
Greece is the place where your hopes and dreams are going to be buried......
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hmmm...
i hope poak (???) qualifies next round....
oh shit! my dreams!
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Hey you from
Magyaroszszszzsszszszszsszig-zag sthing
TSIBOUKIA KANIS ????
(do you blow-job often ?)
Hold your apetite please,few hours left,my poor eastern european miserable loki fan....
Our cocks will reach your stomach..just be patient ;)
PAOK GAMA TIN OUGRIKI POUTANA
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hmmmm...
try to find a woman for yourself. believe me you will fell yourself better. after you asked the women to tell you how to use your "cock" and did so, you will be able to think about other things in life.
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hmmmm ? So you can think ? You wanna tell me than except
SHIT you also have brains in your head ?
I 'm rather surprised though you understood the word "cock"
but I guess since your country's biggest industry is the SEX INDUSTRY you 're quite familiar with the vocabulary of the branch...
Before I will wish you goodnight and see you tommorow one last thing.First time so far in my life that I 've been with a woman
she tought me how to use my "cock" (allowing entrance from both doors,because that's the way they enjoy it more in her funny country called Magyaroszszszsszsszszszs sthing)
Ever since I cannot stop thinking of your sister ;)
loki-loki- ANTE GAMISOU loki
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have no sister... was it yours?
tired. gone sleep...
enjoied this "conversation".
good night greek men (and women if you let them...)
HAJRA LOKI!
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bocsi megtalaltam!
Hajra loki!
Greeks have no chance!
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AK4! I have always used smiles when it is appropriate. If you read all of the comments of this topic, you would not think I was provocative. Probably, u cannot read "between" the sentences...
Answers:
(1) My team never advanced to the 3rd round in the Uefa. It doesn't matter. Never say never ;)
(2) We have an airport, of course, not a big one, but it is good for charters.
(3) LOKI is the nick name of my team. It refers to Locomotion, as one of the sponsors is the hungarian railway company. You will hear it many times, try to learn it ;)
(4) rasism???? you should ask apologize from me, u don't know me(us)...
(5) match of today: good luck for you, however, we are in good condition, if your team will be "big headed", you will put yourselves into difficult situation.
(6) our funs competitive to yours, not in numbers, but in everything else. I agree with you, we are not better than you BUT we can learn quickly ;)
Anyway, try to change your thinking about us and we can be friends instead of enemies!
Only 12 hours, and you are going to know us!!
EZ DEBRECEN!!!!!!
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TO GREEKS AND HUNGARIANS IN THIS TOPIC :
The next one who will provoke or curse will be banned !
OVER ! (funthomas I don't want to say the YOU provoked something ok?)
Keep the dialog normal 'cause it's easy to tell things via a keyboard !
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Bill, I agree.
Other! Paok funs! Please inform me if you meet/see/hear about LOKI funs in Salonika. I am interested in everything in connection with them. Thanks.
Hajrα Loki!!!!!!!! (Hajrα means come on!)
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Debrecen be ready for the next game...
1000 greeks will invade in Hungary!
100 Greeks from Mannheim Germany!
MACEDONIA IS GREEK AND PAOK ! ! !
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Sorry billy,sorry funthomas,i just got carried away....
I think this -loki- really upsets me....
Be with you later.
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Only few hours left...
one thing is for sure: You guys ARE crazy fans of your team... and we appreciate crazy fans as we know how it feels to be one...
Good game tonight, and may PAOK win! ;D
Dikefalos
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We appriciate your craziness as well, and do not care if some net-hooligan try to provoke! I am sure they are under 14...
For tonight: I feel that we will be on the edge! It will be a tough match, but at least a draw! I am looking forward how you support PAOK, and how our players can play within these circumstences!
Csak a LOKI!!!
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@ delta09
Check my profile smart guy.I'm only 33......
Cheers
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Hi to all,
Can anybody let us know if there are any happenings yet in salonica?
Hope everything goes well..
To Loki fans: Toumba is one hell of an experience .
I lived in Athens and have been in Toumba only once, but it was amazing (sadly i ve been to other greek's teams games but nothing is like toumba)..
Enjoy,
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ainteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee we are coming and cuminggggggggggggggggggggggggg!in Hungury will be nice with paok and retsina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!P.A.O.K FANATICS U.K
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bye bye paok :)
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goodmorning in the mafia of europe..but despite this fact..we will be in hungury to take offcourse the victory...debrecen is for the dick(as we say in greek)so... welcome to our magic journey...Welcome to PAOK JOURNEY...
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hmmm...
sounds like before 1st leg...
don't you think too much about yourself?
PAOK - DEBRECEN 1-1
ha ha ha..
loosers...
bye bye little paok...
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This 1-1 is just an illusion... you could have scored twice more, we could have scored 5 times more... Bottom line, our defences were pretty weak.
Now, for the second leg the story is simple: PAOK needs to score at least one goal AND not lose in order to qualify.
Probability of PAOK scoring at least once against "loki" = 100%
Probability of PAOK not losing (X-2 end result) = 50%
Probability of PAOK going through 100% x 50% = 50%. And this being an optimistic for "loki" estimation.
We will talk again in two weeks...
Dikefalos
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oh well...
this sounds correct.
although i give some more chance for Debrecen.
i'm sure paok can play better than they did yesterday. be sure loki too!
HAJRA LOKI!
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Dear loki-Fans,
:04a:be ready for us... :05a:
:hb: :04: :05: :12:at least 1000s of us are coming to stamp down your nice village :hb: :04: :05: :12:
:21: we will make no prisoner :21:
:evil: ...we just need your sculps :evil:
yours sincerely
Conan, the Barbarian, the bonebreaker
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little paok ?ok come to say little paok in ur town...we will be there...come to say what u want to say live,not from internet. it is easy for u because we are little. we will wait u in every corner in ur town.... PAOK GAMA THN OUGRIKH POUTANA
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@DebrecenRulez :
In 26th I arrive in your fucking city.We can arrange a meeting if you like.You can come and tell me all these.Also take your mother with you.
We will come and destroy your city.
GOD FORGIVES - PAOK DOESN'T
Remember this motherfuckers
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after 1st leg: :o
after 2nd leg: :-[
HAJRA LOKI!
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MY GENITALS ARE DIZY...CAUSE OF YOUR COMMENTS. WAIT...WE HAVE ANOTHER MATCH IN HUNGURY. WAIT TO SEE. OK BETTING IS BETTING...IF U UNDERSTAND...ITS SOMETHING LIKE PAOK-LYN. WAIT TO SEE...THE DIFFERENCE. GREETINGS FROM THE CAPITAL OF BETTING...GREETINGS FROM LONDON...
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Just because were playing in Hungary doesen't mean were going to lose. Be prepared for victory on the field and in the stands.
LETS TEACH THESE IDIOTS A FOOTBALL LESSON
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Good morning Paok funs!
Remember, we told you we have a relative strong team. I think we proved it.
Anyway, the game has not finished yet. We have to play carefully in the second leg. Your team is very good in away matches. However, we won all of our home matches in the Uefa cup, all of them...
One thing is "dead" sure, we are going to win in stands. You will taste the real LOKI fun show on 27/11/03. 8) You are welcome in Debrecen, welcome in the Hell of OG street! ;) Our "B" side is waiting for you! 8)
If your are interested in sg (eg: pubs, hotels, night clubs) in Debrecen just let me know!
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AK4! What is her (first) name? Please!
Thx.
HAJRΑ LOKI!!!
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yesterday i told someone that i am travelling to see paok playing against debrecen and he told me that tha local people there dislike greeks!
hahahaha he almost tried to terrify me by telling me that they are uncivilized and that they use knifes when they argue!
Has anyone been in Hungary ?Personaly i don't think that all these statements are true!Moreover using knifes reminds me of the fans of gayros and i therefore think that it at no circumstance is a show of strength or anything similar!
everything is going to be judged in the field and i think that the best will win!and tha is surely P.A.O.K.
I'll meet you all there!!!!!
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knifes?are they terrorists?oh my god. maybe CIA must put this town in the list with places where terrorists are the majority. Debrecen!hehehehe
me to etsi me to 8elw 8a sas kanoume mpourdelo... ante kanto metafrash tora auto...
basically take with u croissant molto.IN prague were very useful...
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AK4! What is her (first) name? Please!
Be more specific pls if there is sthing you want to know.
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taseos be sure of that!i will take a lot of croissant!i will never touch their food!bliaxxxxxxxxxxx
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i meant someting else glykeria but ok the only that they have...is something like toursi:-) but i think that the multinational companies...have restaurants in eastern europe...expect the sluts i mean.
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yesterday i told someone that i am travelling to see paok playing against debrecen and he told me that tha local people there dislike greeks!
Dear Glykeria (btw,what a name,what an artist :)),
I wrote about something similar a while ago and I will repeat
myself.It ain't only the people of Debrecen,it includes most
Hungarians.They simply think they belong to a superior race,
God knows why,perhaps they can tell us.
BUT,the point is,again as I said before,they feel this way towards what they consider "lesser people",especially
blacks among others.The rest of the people they simply don't
really like.If you want to know the WHY,I think you should adress this question to one of them.
As for you my friend funthomas (or should I say Tamasz?) I do owe you an apology,and only YOU!
I 'm really sorry if I have offended you.You definately seem to be OK ;).As you could read in one of my previous posts I am 33.Of course I can read between the lines,I simply got carried
away and it became much worst since this f**ker
-deb.ruz- joined the forum.He keeps provoking and if he is lucky his day will be coming soon ;).But,since I promised to my friend bill,I will keep trying to behave myself.
Very shortly,I explain where I get my ideas about Hungarians in general (exceptions like you simply confirm the rule....)
I worked in the past,in an Asian country,for the diplomatic service.I did meet Hungarians.Also many other people from differnt nationalities who worked in your country.Amazing :'(.
Anyway,this shouldn't be our subject.The name of the game is football....
It's quite possitive for us that you're being so optimistic !!!
As if you shown us sthing great....Of course,none of you said
anything about the Croatians,I wonder why 8).Btw,the referee's assistant will play again in a European game in 3003.
If you manage to find another referee's trio like the one in Thessaloniki,then yes,you have more chances,otherwise :-*
Too much said tonight.I guess you will reply from your office tomorrow.I 'm sorry again.Nothing personal :).I also promise not to answer to the f**ker I was telling you about.Amazingly
he seems to have a pc at home ;D ;D
Cheers
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glykeria4! knives??? we are not ftc funs 8) you should be ready for "frightful" flags and scarves ;) Do not be so quick of belief!
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AK4! Yes, it is office time now :) I have only greek girlfriends, but on the basis of them your country is very sympathic. ;) I am sorry that u have negative experiences and observations regarding Hungarians. I am sure in general we are friendly. However, delinquents and hooligans are present in every country...
Back to football: I agree with you, the referee's assistant decided badly in the final minute. But overall we showed a full-fledged attitude in the match and the draw is rightful. You have lost your advance (first match at home, home funs etc) and so your situation is very difficult because we do not know pardon in Debrecen ;)
You are welcome in our LOKI "presbytery"! It makes me sad that your team has to say goodbye to Uefa... ;)
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AK4! Yes, it is office time now :) I have only greek girlfriends, but on the basis of them your country is very sympathic. ;) I am sorry that u have negative experiences and observations regarding Hungarians. I am sure in general we are friendly. However, delinquents and hooligans are present in every country...
Back to football: I agree with you, the referee's assistant decided badly in the final minute. But overall we showed a full-fledged attitude in the match and the draw is rightful. You have lost your advance (first match at home, home funs etc) and so your situation is very difficult because we do not know pardon in Debrecen ;)
You are welcome in our LOKI "presbytery"! It makes me sad that your team has to say goodbye to Uefa... ;)
Thanks for your answer.No hard feelings anymore :)
Agree that we lost the advantage,don't agree that draw was
right,IMO we should have won the game by at least one goal!
Agree that you find good and bad in every country,it's only about mypersonal expiriences....
For your info:In the last 5 years PAOK advanced to the 3rd round 4 times (4/5).When first played at home we lost to
Benfica Lisbon (1-2) but we won in Portugal with same score,only to lose after penalty shoot-out.This year we lost to Lyn Oslo (0-1) but we won 0-3 in Norway.
Btw,PAOK has never
won on penaltys in Europe (lost to Bayern Munich,Eintracht Frankfurt,Sevilla,Benfica)I 'm sure when you compair these names to your own dvsc you get a bit dizzy ;)
So,yes,theoretically you do have a slight advantage but your qualification is faaaaaaaaaaar from sure !!Believe me,you will have to prove this on the field (unless you manage to find some other Croatians again >:()
Until then be good and my regards to your Greek girlfriends 8)
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we will see how friendly you are funthomas!i've never been to your country so i collect opinions but also wait to see for myself!we will see if they are truly rasists or anything similar....the only problem that i face is that all the others will be going out in clubs (you know what kind of clubs i mean)and i can't follow them there!
i am not afraid of "huligans" as the hungarians haven't met our funs!
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AK4! Referees are delegated by Israel for our second match. Based on the Greek history it is not a good news for you...In spite of this I am afraid the referees will want to make "refund" to you after the first match...
Yes, your team list commands respect compare to ours. But in the present we have a very strong team, especially at home! If you try to contemn us you will burn yourselves!
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glykeria4! Be prepared, your first time visit will be unforgettable! ;) Do not be so pessimistic, just enjoy the Hungarian feeling :hb:
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Israel?????
wtf!!! what are these people doing in the EUROPEAN games ANYWAY??? You're right though... We don't have excellent relations with Israeli ;) Although I know of one Thessaloniki team who would have been delgihted in our place ;)
Dikefalos
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Israel?????
wtf!!! what are these people doing in the EUROPEAN games ANYWAY??? You're right though... We don't have excellent relations with Israeli ;) Although I know of one Thessaloniki team who would have been delgihted in our place ;)
Dikefalos
surely they would have been delighted....
But nothing can stop as...we ll beat them all...referies and players..
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Re ti Ouggroi kai evraioi kai Kosovaroi
PAOK ai lav gioy ant gouen ai ntai ai gouont de ntampl xent igkl on mai gkreiv...
Enas neapolitis agglomathis ;D
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@ eLBaNDy
In case you will not receive my answer to your e-mail,once again,I 'll be glad to answer if I understand your question!
Try again please cause you haven't explained much on your e-mail ;)
To my friend funthomas only one thing for today....
HAJRA MATAV
[/color]HAJRA MATAV[/glow]
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AK4! :) :) :) I see you are up to date about the Hungarian football league ;) U are right, on saturday we will play against Sopron (Matav is its sponsor) and we are going to win, of course!!!! ;)
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Breaking news from Debrecen:
(1) no way for mobile seats in order to expand the capacity of our stadium. It means you will receive 650-700 tickets, maximum, sorry....
(2) stadium is under police visitation now, your sector will be covered by safety "spider's web"
(3) based on the tickets reservation, full house is guarateed
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thanks for the update funthomas.
according to local news here, PAOK will get 700 to 750 tickets directly from your team. Now these tickets are apparently very few for the expected demands, adn people will certainly look to get tickets in non-visitor stands as well.
I want to ask you a question: What is the maximum number of away fans you ever saw in your stadium?
Dikefalos
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probably all of the home tickets will go off within two days, so u should hurry up ;)
Two years ago we played against ftc in the final round, that match decided about the championship of ftc. Approx. 1500-2000 ftc funs came to Debrecen. 50% of them without tickets. Police opened two more sectors for the guests, tried to avoid the confict. It caused huge storm of indignation between Loki funs because they were not allowed to enter their own sectors.
According to the Uefa restrictions and the present capacity of our stadium, similar resolution is not applicable on 27/11/03...
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You asked Funthomas, but I'm answering now, if you don't mind.
If LOKI play against a most popular team (e.g.: ϊjpest, ferencvαros), then away fans are 500-600 in general. But we will never forget then the ftc won the Hungarian Championship in Debrecen at 2001 and ~2000 ftc fans were in the Olαh Gαbor utcai Stadium. At that time we have wrong leaders, who let all ftc's fans into the Stadium. >:(
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only 5 minutes later ;)
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I see... but it is pretty different to have 2,000 fans that make a couple of hundreds of Kms and fans coming from a different country...
Anyway, regardless of how many fans will finally manage to enter the stadium, I believe it is going to be a tough game. What are the latest new of your team?
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A "key" defender (Szekeres) injured in the first match, the season is over for him :'( We have two matches before the Uefa 2nd leg, so we should concentrate to the Hungarian league as well. Otherwise, everybody is preparing for the "return" and we are optimistic! 8) You know, Hungary will have a team in the spring Uefa season after 20 years... ;)
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We will play against Matav Sopron away in this week, and naturally we will win. ;)
Wrong news: Our defender, Tamαs Szekeres was injured in the second half of PAOK-DVSC. He have partial ligament tear in his knee. :'(
Good news: Gαbor Vince and Csaba Madar (midfields) have recruited and they likely will play in the second match. ;D
I Think that's all.
And whazzzzup about your team now?
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I am very slowly.... :( I have lot of job... :-P
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Well,
* Zavantias is out but he's not registered to play in UEFA anyway.
* Markos and Egkomitis are injured but didn't play in first game as well.
* Karadimos is injured but will be fit for the 2nd leg
Other than that, Greek Championship is stopped for this week for International friendlies, next week we have a VERY tough game with the "old ladies" of the town Iraklis FC.
Stop of championship maybe will do some good, team was getting pretty tired playing 2 games a week.
Good news come from management (this is very rare in PAOK's case) who have renewed contracts of Hasiotis and our attacker Salpiggidis, so at least they don't have their contracts on their mind any more...
I can't think of anything more right now... Bascally same team you saw in Toumpa you will see in Debrecen as well. I don't know if Debrecen can play much better, but if both temas play more or less the same as first leg, then PAOK is through ;)
Dikefalos
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All home seats are booked within 3 hours in Debrecen...
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7000?
Big deal...
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Doctor!
Do not be so cynical! Based on the tickets needs, we would throng a stadium with 30.000 capacity too... Our leaders decided for our little stadium, so we can arrange this match in OUR CITY instead of the capital.
I hope your attitude will "stick on" your players and then you are going to lose the duel. This is a very good chance for us: your scornful behavior... :21:
AK4!
Matav Sopron - Debrecen
1-3
:hb:
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Well done my friend :)
Btw,what are you doing on a Sunday at your office ???
Anyway,dispite the -6 pts we 're coming back.....
Ferencvaros OleFerencvaros Ole
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A have a lot of f.....g work to do :'(
Are u an ftc fun???????????????? :12: U make me very dissappointed! I hope u are joking! ;)
I cannot expain it how big is my antipathy regarding ftc :18: Choose your biggest enemy club in Greek and multiply by 1000x!! 8)
Anyway, we already had a match in autumn:
Debrecen - ftc
5 - 0!!!!
We saw all of ftc players and funs are crying!!! ;)
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Well done my friend :)
Btw,what are you doing on a Sunday at your office ???
Anyway,dispite the -6 pts we 're coming back.....
Ferencvaros OleFerencvaros Ole
This was a very, very bad joke. :'( In the last year, ftc played against Debrecen at 30. may. The result was 0-0, and the ftc didn't win the championship. The ftc's management let their funs into the football ground, and some ftc's fun knocked off our coach, Lαzαr Szentes, and beat some debrecen's player. :16:
But the conflict go back high in the past also...
HAJRΑ LOKI!!!
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Info: Our club sent 650 tickets to your club directly. Our home tickets ares old out. Any of them are available at the black market for 80-100 euros. So, good athmosphere is guaranteed! We will win!!!! ;)
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Latset news of PAOK for your info:
PAOK doesn't have a president anymore since he was forced to resign because the governemnt says he stole some money from the stock market. By the way, this is pretty common in Greece, so don't think it is a great issue... :lol: :lol: If you steal from the stock market you get 3 years of jail, but they let you out so you can become president of a club. Anyway, I close the parenthesis.
Today the board of directors (they don't direct much, but they have the title) is meeting today in order to name someone as president. Nobody really wants to become one, as the stocks of the team are in the hands of someone who doesn't even appear in the board. Besides, PAOK has some nice debt, so nobody wants to be the "front man".
Going to the fans, for the moment nobody really talks about the our game, because UEFA informed PAOK that we have to "give" our stadium to archrivals FC Worms Thessaloniki. The situation is a little bit complicated, but bottom line is that PAOK fans are now talking about this.
As far as the team itself goes, the news of the president resigning has created a somewhat negative situation, but the coach is trying to keep everybody together and concentrated for the big game we have this weekend against FC Old Ladies Thessaloniki.
The Debrecen game has to wait for us, truth is however we have some "outside" problems we have to deal with... We are, however, confident that we will go to the 3rd UEFA Cup Round. ;D
Take care,
Dikefalos
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In opposition of this, everything is allright in Debrecen. Based on the votes of journalists:
- Debrecen is the best football team in Hungary in 2003
- three of our foreign legionaries (Sumudica, Tomic, Habi) are the best players come from abroad
- our trainer has got the silver medal among trainers.
Y03 is the year of LOKI!! :hb:
"we have to "give" our stadium to archrivals FC Worms Thessaloniki" What does it mean???
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UEFA found that the only stadium in Thessaloniki that meets the necessary criteria for an UEFA game is the Toumpa Stadium. Since FC Worms are based in Thessaloniki, we must "allow" them to play in our stadium. At least these are the latest news.
Your trainer got a... medal in the middle of the season????
Dikefalos
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ferecvaros is da best team in hungury for last 12 years my friend... despite of your feelings there is a reality.... ur team is so big... that its nickname "loki" is from lokomotiv sofia, cause of a game with this team. is that right?so big team...Loki.Anyway we will see who is going to be the winner...the time is near.
P.A.O.K 100%
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"Your trainer got a... medal in the middle of the season????"
No, of course. He got it for 2002/2003 season and our UEFA performance in 2003.
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Taseos! The reality is that we trampled ftc by five goals in this year and six goals 3 years ago. They cannot win against us for 2 years (home and away as well)!! Everybody hates them, ugly disgusting gangs. ftc is nothing in our eyes! Anyway, this topic is born for Paok and Debrecen....
Loki name is come from Locomotion, but not from the Sofia's team. It refers to our oldest sponsor: Hungarian Railways.
There is no question, we will be winner!!! Be prepared for the Hell, you will never forget us! 8) :hb:
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Balaton,what a beautiful place,what a football team ;)
Does it ring any bells my friends 8) 8)
I 'm sure you would have been sure of winning that game as
well.....
Be cool though,the biggest disappointment is still to come :b&w:
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debrecen-BalatonFC: 0-1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0-1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CONGRATULATIONS Funthomas,ElBandy!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PAOK - iraklis 2 - 0 :) :)
Good result with very good performance....now only 3 points
from the top :)
Our team seems to be picking the right form before Thursday's
game..NO new injuries,great spirit and a lot of confidence 8)
loki here we come :04a:
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You know, bad rehearsal-good performance! ;)
Your next favourite football team will be LOKI!! 8)
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:lol:
Hope dies as last dear friend ;)
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ONE TEAM...ONE RELIGION...ONE GOD..ONE BELIEF... P.A.O.K 100%
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Your team is staying in Aqua Hotel, Hajdϊszoboszlσ (near Debrecen) today.
Paok funs who use this page! Do u come to Debrecen?
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Yep, tomorrow we are leaving....Thursday...You will understand that we are there... 8)
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-----------WE----------- ----DEBRECEN----
8) ;D 8)8)8) ;D 8) :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
:04a: :04a: :04a: :04a:
:05a: :05a: :05a: :05a:
:hb: :hb: :hb: :hb:
:b&w: :b&w: :b&w: :b&w: :b&w: :b&w: :b&w:
:10: :10: :10: :10: :10: :10: :10:
8)----BLACK N`WHITE EARTHQUAKE IN DEBRECEN----SEEEEEEEEE Y`ALL THEREEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! 8)
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Perfect! ;)
Be prepared for huge number of LOKI funs, red and white from top to bottom! :hb: :05:
Every news, every media deal with us! Our players drunk "blood", our funs cannot sleep! Debrecen is waiting for you! We will prove on the pitch and stands!!! :hb: :hb:
You are lucky, you can enjoy our show live!!! A match on Thursday night....sg to tell to your children and others....there is sg in the air...LOKI IS COMING!!!!!!
HAJRΑ LOKI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@ FUNTHOMAS
Waiting for news my friend....I guess your city has already
turned to black and white :b&w: ;)
One thing is for sure,if the Jew is not in a mission like the
Croatian,you are going to say goodbye to Europe :'(
PAOK FOR EVER - WHEREEVER - WHENEVER
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Goooood moooooorning my greek friends!!! The day has came! Good luck for today, you need it! ;)
AK4! Why aren't you in Debrecen still??? Anyway, I received information regarding Paok funs in Debrecen, some of you walked in the city centre yesterday, some of you appared in two hotels (eg. victoria). I am still here in the f...ing office in Budapest, but we are going to home asap. There are meeting points for Loki funs near the stadium: pubs 8) I am planning to change a scarf with one of you ;)
CSAK A LOKI ΙRTED ΙLEK ΙN!!!!!!!!!! (I live only for LOKI)
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Be prepared for huge number of LOKI funs, red and white from top to bottom!
huge number??6000 is a huge number for you? :P
your city will turn to black and white today.1000 of us should be already be there.
:05a: :05a: :05a: :05a:
PAOK OLE OLE GAMW THN DEBRECEN
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Well... We qualified ourselves to the 3rd round of the UEFA Cup.
The PAOK funs were very simpathic in Debrecen even as Thessaloniki.
Good luck for the Greek Championship!
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Hello! :)
You did not belive my words... :21: Your team is better than ours but you cannot stop LOKI..not in this year, your tragedy is to face with us in this round... Just follow with attention our next round, another "what a surprise" will coming, just because nobody knows us BUT everybody will know us, similar to you...
Story regarding you:
Funs:
- we have seen six buses full of Paok funs on the motorway between Budapest and Debrecen on Thursday afternoon
- you said thousands of greeks arrive in Debrecen, instead of this you were 800 maximum, one sector full and another approx. Q3.
- before the match we tried to contact any of you but the police cannot allowed us too close to your buses, no chance for scarf changing :'(
- you brought four "greek fires" into the stadium, one of them landed in a home sector...no comment.
- no atrocity were in and out of the stadium, funs and hools were separated
- one of your flag (we did not see exactly what kind of flag) was burnt, I don't know directly or not
- your full sector screamed and jumped but once in a lifetime they were in minority. junifront! you are probably deaf and blindness...we cleared away anything, just check it in the news, Uefa or greek...
- I like this: 10 minutes murmuring and jumping and then total screaming PAOK-PAOK! It was very good!
- we tried to irritate you singing Aris-Aris, gay-ros-Olimpiakos but it did not get over 8)
Match:
- always Paok possessed the ball without real goal situation, we tried to strike back
- in the middle of the second half your team seemed to give up the match...(?)
- your goolkeeper showed its fingers to our funs...no comment.
- I think the first match result and the croatian referees influenced our qualification but it is warning signal for you that we cannot show you our best face because we did not play well in this two matches...
Overall, I am happy to meet you, your team! You are very sympatic, good luck for you and I hope we will meet again in the Uefa or Champions league ;)
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We exchanged scarfs after the game. We were one bus from Germany, that stayed in Debrecen for the night.
You have made a nice atmosphere.
PS: Tornado was a nice pub, btw...
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I was in the Tornado as well that night ;) We saw some greek guys (without Paok scarves, of course) inside but they were very-very sad...Keep your chin up! Life is goes on, I know, easy to say it...
We will kick Liverpool off for you too! ;)
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Den kserw gia sas paidia alla..
emena,h olh fash me ta ouggarakia
pou grafoun sto forum..
EXEI ARXISEI (edw kai kairo) NA MOY
TH SPAEI GIA TA KALA..
Ti paei na pei "without scarves,of course";;
H' "..you are very sympatic";;
Tous exei pei kaneis pws eimaste "loulhdes"
den katalava,dhladh..
(Gia na mhn mpw sto peirasmo kai pw kamia kouventa
pou fwnazan "arhs" kai "gauros" kai tetoia..)
Kai sthn telikh,st'arxidia mou ama "you will kick Liverpool
off for me too"..EGW TO VAZELO 8ELW NA PATHSW..
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Sorry,egrapsa ellhnika sto "aggliko" Paok-Debrecen
Den to katalava.
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funthwmas you are wrong!
a lot of people came from a lot of places and not only with buses!
so as to know....a lot of us came from germany and we even had funs from serbia!a bus come with fake tickets!!!!!!!!
so as you can understand we were more than you think!
we were wearing our scarfs all the time!
in debrecen and in budapest during our walks the previous day!
don't try to be a huligan!
you can't face us as fans!
your police shows it... as they were very kind and didn't seem to know how a fun can trick them!
the things that carried with them also showed that they haven't been in fights between funs!so stop pretendig to be powerfull!
i must admitt that you made a good atmosphere but still we have travelled for 20 hours total (with the stops at the barriers)..not that this is an excuse!!we can compare our people with you when you came in toumba!
pretty much the same!
it was our worst apperience considering funs and team!
if we had a better skor from the first game things would have been different!
but great teams as PAOK don't think that way!!if......and if...
anyways!congratulations to your team!
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I was in the Tornado as well that night ;) We saw some greek guys (without Paok scarves, of course) inside but they were very-very sad...Keep your chin up! Life is goes on, I know, easy to say it...
We will kick Liverpool off for you too! ;)
We didn't have scarfs, but we were wearing our PAOK Mannheim fan shirts... ;)
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Congratulations to you funthomas.
I think you said it all in one of your last posts...the better team wasn't good enough this time to qualify.
No use to talk about the bloody croats anymore though I have
to say that the Israeli ref was simply excellent.
Good luck in the third round but if you perform like this again I
don't think you will make it further....
Take care and see you another time.
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juznifront! If you do not see sg, it does not mean that It does not exist... :P
I don't care with hooligans but in connection with funs you should learn a lot.... Match on thursday was a very good lesson for guys similar to you...
I hope we will meet in the future...Partizan and Loki...
Best regards
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How many are you, re?
5000? 6000? 7000?
Have you seen any of the fotos in this site? Our stadium is the hottest in Europe along with Ali Sami Yen and our fans were in many UEFA TV spots...
So stop pretending you are somebody in Europe. You are a fucking village, for fuck's sake...
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Athmosphere is not in close connection with average attandance. However, your stadion, your home feeling is one of the best in Europe, I agree.
But you were away, and you did not prove your reputation. I did not say we are an issue in Europe, I just said we were better than you on Thursday. Nobody wants to provoke you, but you should recognize our performance on the ground and the stands.
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juznifront! you are lying or you were not in the match or you want to indulge yourself in chimera...
about the "silent" athmosphere: ask another relevant paok fun or check it in the news
I hope your team "falls down" to the Uefa cup and You can face the reality in the body of Loki...
Before Paok-Loki matches my greek friends told me the same...
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Loki cannot competitive with clubs like Paok or Partizan. But why don not you understand what I say? I talk about one match: Loki-Paok in Debrecen. During that match you lost on the stands. You can look for the reasons (long trip, no name enemy, cold weather, whatever) but the fact remains the same. Only one team had real funs on Thursday, and that team was not Paok...
I do not want to convince you but do not bluff yourself and others who would like to obtain real info on the match.
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You are right, hell sounds ironic, carneval would be more applicable ;)
Anyway, we made approaches to you as friends and not as enemies (like ftc funs). 8) I am already Paok fun :hb:
- Hajrα Debrecen means Come on Debrecen
- eg. I prefer Brittish style mentality but I agree with u, our majority follow Italian style
- in Hungary we think that CZ has the strongest hooligans in Serbia, what is your opinion?
Good luck in the champions league! F...ing french!
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I am already Paok fun :hb:
I took you a while but finally you discovered the truth my firend :) :) :) :)
Spread the word funthomas,become the founder of the
PAOK FAN CLUB DEBRECEN
PAOK PANTOU KE PANTA
and join our black and white family 8)
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Back to infos regarding Loki ;)
Uefa Round 3 (32 teams)
For the draw of the 4rd round the 16 teams are divided into 2 groups of 8 teams. Each group consists of 4 seeded and 4 unseeded teams.
Seeded teams:
FC Barcelona
Liverpool
AS Roma
AC Parma
Real Mallorca
Panathinaikos
Girondins Bordeaux
Newcastle United
Olympique Marseille
Inter
PSV
Galata
Celtic
Club Brugge
Rosenborg
Valencia
We are unseeded, of course, so we will receive one of the above team tomorrow.
Hajra Loki!
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FC Brugge........
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Yesterday I received a Paok scarf from one of you.
Your big Paok family expanded by one person! :hb:
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hi! i live in bp!!!!!! since u became fun of the great PAOK,we welcome u!
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Matheus is appointed as the trainer of the Hungarian national football team. Juznifront! Any comment?
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@funthomas: I heard about Matheus!Are they serious in your country?OK he was a good player but the last 3-4 years he is just an advertisement.Maybe later he could be a good coach but I don't think now.
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I agree with Kostas4. Mathaeus was a great player but I don't think he will make it as a coach.
For me the best german coaches are Hitzfield and Rehaggel and not because he's the coach of Greece but because he is a good tactiitian.
I hope Mathaues does well at Hungary but I can't see it happening.
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Well...U are right, Matheus has proved nothing as a trainer...
However, he has two strenghts:
- As Germany is the biggest market for the Hungarian players, maybe the German managers will follow with more attention our players
- As the next World Championship organized by Germany, it means a huge prestige question for Matheus as well.
Hope dies at the last time! ;)
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Hello my greek friends!
Just for your information: 1400 LOKI funs will support our team in Bruges on Thursday! 8)
Come on LOKI, Come on Paok!
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Good luck to Debrecen funthomas. You΄re a truly fan.
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Well,well,look who's back :)!
Nice to hear from you again funthomas,I guess you must have been busy all that time starting up the DPFC....
......."Debreceni PAOK fan club" ;D ;D
It is quite funny but once again I cannot wish you luck ::)
As you know I 'm living in Belgium and guess what, my favorite
club is Brugge of course ;) In my younger years I 've been following them a lot,as I was living nearby...Nowdays I still follow the team but mostly on TV.
About the game I must tell you that nobody is talking about it.
Loki doesn't sound very exiting at all and after the draw took place everybody was thinking of who could be the next opponent.All this can only be good news for you and Loki as we both remember what happened last time that someone has underestimated you :-[
Brugge are the clear favorites,more than PAOK was at the time we played eachother.By saying 80-20 for Club to qualify
I think I 'm being quite realistic.After a horrible start in the league the team has started rolling again after the winter brake (5 consecutive wins in last 5 games,16-1 goals..)
It seems that the game is coming at a bad moment for Loki 8)
Anyway,enough said for today.I 'm sure we will hear from you again.If there is anything you would like to know feel free to ask.I would be glad if I could help.
Take care ;)
KOM AAN BLAUW-ZWART :05a:
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Hello AK4!
I cannot believe it, you do not wish luck for us again :21: ;)
Was not Paok-Loki battle enough??? ;)
Anyway, I agree with your words. We have no chance "on table". However, very dangerous to underestimate us: little, no name team from eastern europe against a team who come from champions league with good results and reputation... We will fight as lions, trust me 8)
Which town are u living in Belgium? Cannot u see the match in live? It will be a good chance to meet u and drink a good beer 8)
Matador! Thank you. I am already the member of your Paok family! Go ahead from the third place and teach the Olimpiakos what the football is 8)!
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@funthomas:
I wish you good luck! :) it will be great if you go to the next phase but also very difficult...
Have a nice trip in Bruges! :)
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Hello AK4!
I cannot believe it, you do not wish luck for us again :21: ;)
Was not Paok-Loki battle enough??? ;)
Anyway, I agree with your words. We have no chance "on table". However, very dangerous to underestimate us: little, no name team from eastern europe against a team who come from champions league with good results and reputation... We will fight as lions, trust me 8)
Which town are u living in Belgium? Cannot u see the match in live? It will be a good chance to meet u and drink a good beer 8)
Matador! Thank you. I am already the member of your Paok family! Go ahead from the third place and teach the Olimpiakos what the football is 8)!
My friend,funthomas,I never said that you have NO CHANCE,
I only mentioned that THEORETICALY you have even less chances than against PAOK.I also spoke about the-existing!-
danger of underestimating Loki ::)
Unfortunately I will not be able to attend the game :(.
But,who knows,maybe in the next round (if there will be one) 8)
The place I live is called Leuven,is situated about 25km to the
east of Brussels and about 150km from Brugge.
2 funny things about Leuven...the most famous "thing" about it, is its University (like Debrecen I guess)
Second and most funny,in a city of 100,000 from which about
20! Greeks,there is another guy called dikefalos if I 'm not mistaken ::),and guess what,he is as crazy about PAOK as I am ;D.!So,the 2 of us met and now
we are spreading our religion to the locals....
About meeting eachother sounds excellent!! If you are staying
in Belgium for a couple of days,perhaps to visit Brussels or sthing,we can definately arrange it.You can send me an e-mail
and then we can be more specific.Untill then,take care and have a safe journey to "our" country!!
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Bruges-Debrecen
1:0
Very good result!!! On wednesday we will go to the next round! ;)
1500 Loki funs were in Bruges, the main square was under annex 8) Belgian people already know what LOKI is!!! ;)
AK4!
I cannot believe it....We were in Leuven through 3 nights and in Brussels half a day... and I have read your answer now......
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AK4!
I cannot believe it....We were in Leuven through 3 nights and in Brussels half a day... and I have read your answer now......
What a pitty my friend :(
It seems that we will have to meet,the soonest,next year...
but then how can that happen?
PAOK is going to the Champions League and I am afraid Loki
will not :-\.Anyway,you never know...
As for tomorrow's game,I think that you now have even less
chances than before the first leg.In my ears sounds impossible
that Loki can beat Club by 2 goals !!
It all depends on Club's motivation.Upcoming sunday we play
at home against the Belgian F-***ing-varos,Anderlecht...
After an incredible run of 6 consecutive wins Brugge is second
again and on a Ch.L. spot which is very important,more than the Uefa cup.Still,I believe that Club will qualify.One way or another ;)
Enjoy the game,and if I was to choose,I would definately prefer to defeat Anderlecht than Loki...
What happens if it ends 2-1 for Loki? 8) 8)
Take care and...........good luck ;)
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Do not be so pusillanimous my friend! We are in the fourth place on the Hungarian league, only one win far from the first place. Champions league is not a dream for us ;)
We will beat Bruges by two goals today and we will in the best 16 teams in the Uefa cup ;) Europe is learning the name of Loki nowadays 8)
We were in a pub in Bruges and we sing the "song" fuck anderlecht together 8)
After tomorrow you can concentrate only to the Belgian league as the Uefa is the past for FCB. ;)
Anyway, I wait a very tough game and it will be very difficult for us but we will try it!
Hajrα Loki, Hajrα Paok!
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No more,no less than expected...
It's quite normal if you consider that you scored 1(one!) goal
in the last 4 Uefa cup games...
Anyway,what I will remember from this year's campaign will be
1.The f***ing Croat referees from our first game
2.A nice guy,called funthomas,who became part of our forum
life!!!
Take care my friend and who knows what happens next year!
GOOD LUCK IN YOUR CHAMPIONSHIP !!
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well...the game is over...
Bruges deserved its qualification to the next round. Without goals there is no chance or just very limited...
However, I am very proud of my team, they did their best. We went through three rounds in the Uefa cup with only one lost match. Hundreds (funs) followed our team to Litvan, Croatia, Greece, Belgium. We demonstrated that Debrecen has a place in the European football cups.
I am happy that I knew you (Paok funs), I am looking at you as true friends.
AK4, bannon, my friends, and other Paok funs! I would be happy if I can return your friendship. Let me know if you need sg when you are in Hungary.
I hope Debrecen and Paok will meet in the next season in the Champions league and we can meet, drink and discuss everything personally.
Take care!
PS: I cannot promise that I wont write here in the future ;)
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Never mind funthomas. You΄ve prooved that you΄re a very-very high level fun of your team.
Don΄t disappear. Keep in touch.
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RE PAIDIA... TI FUN KAI FUN... FAN GRAFETAI H LE3H...
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@parva:
An rikseis mia ;)prosektikh ;) matia sto nickname tou episkepth blepeis pws aytoapokaleite.
Ara osoi grafoun fun apey8inonte ston onomati FUN kai oxi opado(fan)......
8a parakalousa o tropos epikoinwnias s'ayto to topic na parameinei agglikos.
Eyxaristw
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@funthomas
Do you believe in miracles? :19:
PAOK-Debrecen in CL ....... :evil:
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PS: I cannot promise that I wont write here in the future ;)
We all hope that you stay in touch!
I really enjoyed our conversations :)
Take care my friend and all the best for you and Loki!!
PAOK PANTOU KE PANTA
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@parva:
An rikseis mia prosektikh matia sto nickname tou episkepth blepeis pws aytoapokaleite.
Ara osoi grafoun fun apey8inonte ston onomati FUN kai oxi opado(fan)......
8a parakalousa o tropos epikoinwnias s'ayto to topic na parameinei agglikos.
Eyxaristw
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Den to katalava, alla tespa... eeeee.... I didn't get it, but end of all...
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Parvas! u are allowed to write in English here ;)
Bill! I believed in miracles before the game of Paok-Loki as well, and the history proves me ;) I hope Paok will play a lot in countries close to Hungary in the next season and I can support Paok together with you guys! 8)
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I hope Paok will play a lot in countries close to Hungary in the next season and I can support Paok together with you guys! 8)
another PAOK fan of PAOK fan's!
..and the story goes on and on and on :hb:
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Funthomas
I'm very suprised by your team. I didn't expect debrecen to only lose 1-0 on aggregate against Bruges.
Well done to your team and good luck in your championship.
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PAOK OLE PAOK OLE PAOK OLE OLE OLE OLE OLEO 8)
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Hey guys,
I have heard that sy injured in the last game against aek. Is it true? What happened?
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Hallo my friend funthomas!
I hope everything is OK with you.
About your question;well,it was a very important game as you know and our "temple" was really packed (28.000 people)
43min and aek scores the 0-2!
3min later and still in first half we scored the equalizer.Early in second half we scored the winning goal that sends us FOR SURE to next years C.L. qualification round.
I don't know when the accidents occured but 3 people were injured by falling from quite high...
2 of them were very seriously injured in their heads (1 was really critical...) Thank God,today I read that it seems that everybody escaped danger and they are going to be OK!!
Perhaps someone else can give you some more accurate details...
Btw,how do you feel about Loki's upcoming game against
ferenc-f***-varos?? Keep me updated,I want to bet on Loki
at least not to loose 8)
Take care
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Hello AK4!
Yes, everything is OK, thanks for your question and quick reply. The accident does not sound good..I hope they are better!
Regarding the article 'Debrecen revisited'...
Of course I am happy that our Paok family does not know borders but I am disappointed that I have not met sentences like that: Debrecen proved that it has a place on the European football map, LOKI funs made fantastic athmosphere... ;) 8) :hb:
Anyway, it is good thinking back to our match! :hb:
Hajrαααααααα LOKI & PAOK!
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Well...we played against the disgusting ftc at the weekend in budapest. The result is 0:0, 400 Loki funs away, two red cards, many yellow cards, one penalty against us, one goal scored by us was canceled by the f..king cheating referee, one rightful penalty for us "passed"...No comment, Hungarian football league in 2004...
However, we are still in good position just one win from the first place. On saturday we will play at home with mtk (jews) who was the champion in the last year.
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Well,it sounds very much like you were playing the F***ing
gays of pireaus...Same things happen in Greece all the time my friend >:(
Anyway,I hope you can win the next game vs mtk.It will not be easy though cause if I am not mistaken they are also from Budapest ::)
Take care
PAOK PANTOU KE PANTA
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Hello my greek friends!
Breaking news for you from Debrecen: LOKI is in the first place in the Hungarian football league!!!!!! This weekend we will kick the fucking disgusting ftc off at home!!! Champions league is approaching... ;)
Hajrα LOKI&Paok!
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hello to you too...well it seems like both teams will be playing in cl next year...every luck my friend to this journey
and don't forget...PAOK for ever the only true idea in the world
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YEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
Loki-ftc
3-2!!!!! 8) :hb: :hb: :hb:
CL is coming!!!!!! ;)
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Funthomas
I just checked on the uefa website that you guys finished 3rd.
No Champions League for you guys next season.
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@whitetower,
they are in the Playoffs of the first 6 teams.
Till now they lead with 50 points when I'm right.
Funthomas , correct me if I'm wrong.
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Hello Bill and white!
I am more than happy that you guys are interested in our little team' results!
The situation is that we are currently in the third position (50 points) but only one point far from the first place. There are three matches till the end of the playoffs. So the game is not over! Hopes are living! Four teams have chance to win: LOKI, ftc, ute, siofok. And in the final round: ftc-LOKI in Budapest...
I hope you are well and our Paok family is growing contineously! 8) :hb:
Glory LOKI & PAOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My apologies Funthomas.
I thought that last weekend was the final round for the season.
How many teams make it to the champions league in Hungary?
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Only one team, the champion. One week, three matches and everything is cleared up! ;)
Curiosity: Season's reports have explained that LOKI has the biggest fun group on tour (regarding away matches)!! This mean we are try to imitate Paok! ;) 8)
Hajrα Loki & Paok!
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Not a chance my friend.
Remember last season 7,000 PAOK fans travelled to Switzerland for the match against Grasshoppers.
You won't beat that record for an away game.
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:) Ok, U are right! However, everthing is relative. U were not more in number in Debrecen than we were in Saloniki! ;)
Anyway, our biggest away presence in Hungary was in Budapest in 2003 when we played for the Hungarian Cup against ftc: 5-6000 LOKI funs; and in a foreign country: Bruges, this year, 2000 funs. These numbers are perfect if you calculate with our town's population: 250 thousand.
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Ok Very True however if we played in Brugges we would need at least 5,000
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Hello my greek friends!
Congratulations for the third place! It means CL qualifying rounds for you. Paok forever! I hope we will meet there!
How do you evaluate this season?
Other! We are in the first position before the final round...Debrecen is in football fever! Everybody prepares for the match against ftc on thursday! 8) :12:
HAJRΑΑΑΑΑΑ LOKI!!!!!!! :hb: :hb:
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I saw that Funthomas on the Uefa website. You never no we might meet each other in the champions league qualifier.
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Hi funthomas!
I am sorry you didn't make it at the end...you must be very disappointed.You must know though that you have all our sympathy.Better luck next year my friend ;)
It must also be very frustrating to see ftc winning the title..
How on earth,besides Loki,Ujpest managed to lose the title?
Anyway,perhaps WE can get lucky and meet in Budapest later this year...That's only if ferenc-F*CK*NG-varos make it to the 3rd QR.
Take care mate :)
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Hello AK4!
I cannot explain it how disappointed I am...... :-[ :-[ :-[ Tragical end...we lost everything... All of Debrecen is sad and broken down...
We are starting in the Uefa Intertoto Cup (after 5 rounds have a chance to go to Uefa main table) but nobody is interested in it...
Only one point...I cannot understand it...it is still difficult to find the right words...
So no way to gain a Paok-Loki match in this Cup season... :-[ :-[
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Cheer up funthomas! That's football afterall...one day happy,another one sad.
Still,our meeting hasn't been called off yet.. if ftc makes it to the 3rd round............see you in Buda 8)! (or maybe Pest ???)
Be good my friend ;)
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Hello!
We were in Portugal because of the European Championship in the last two week. In Porto we met some Olimpiakos funs. Of course I started to talk about Paok ;) They said you are "strong funs" and the Toumba is "frightening"! :hb:
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hello my friend,you must know something.... DEATH TO OLYMBIAKOS FUNS.... :hb: :hb: :hb: :hb: :hb:
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hello funthomas ;)
did you have your PAOK FC scarf with you in Portugal?? 8)
enjoy your stay there..... and see you in the final ;D ;D
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Hello bannon! How are you doing my friend?
We presented Hungarian scarves and flags but they often were mixed with Bulgarian or Italian ones by other funs ;)
Come on Greece against the shellfish eating french!!! :hb:
character! I know, I know...but we did not want to stay in a Portugese prison... ;)
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Yeeeahhh!!! Good by Mrs France! ;) Congratulations!!!!!! One question: where are Paok players from the national team????
Other:
Made by Belgian funs (have u heard it AK4? :)):
We were chosen as the best footballfuns in the Jan Breydel Stadium, Bruges in 2003/2004 season. It was close but Debrecen won with a smal lead on an other Belgian team. Last year Bruges welcomes fans from AS Monaco, Borussia Dortmund, AC Milan,Ajax Amsterdam,Celta De vigo,Debrecen, Bordeaux, KRC Genk, Anderlecht,Standard Liθge, Cercle Brugge, Mouscron, Westerlo, Mons, Fc Antwerp, Heusden-Zolder, Sint-Truiden,Lierse,Lokeren,Charleroi,Germinal Beerschot, La Louviθre,Sk Beveren and AA gent.
:hb: :hb:
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Hohohohohohohσσσσσσσ! Hellas! Hellas! ;) Congratulations!!! Well done!
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Funtomas, I think that PAOK fans don't support national team.
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Why not? It is interesting but I know that there were no Paok players in the national team.....
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Juzni! Have u heard about antiHungarian attitude in Serbia nowadays?
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No, no it's bullshit. Serbia is the most multinational country in Europe and all Europeans allways blaming us that other minorities in Serbia are people of second class (like what's happened in Kosovo and Metohija). Situation is like that: several Hungarians almost killed one Serbian boy. Police found him when he was almost death with baseball stick in his ass. Now they are talking that was not because he is Serb. I would like to believe in that but probbably you don't remember, similar situation happened about 15 years ago in Kosovo and Metohija when Albanians almost killed one Serbian boy. They also said that is not because he is Serb. Can you see the connection?
I repeat, I would like that is true. I would like to believe for that situation that is not because that boy is Serb. I don't hate Hungarians and other nationals which are living in Serbia. My good friend is Hungarian and he is one of the biggest fans of Partizan in Serbia. If they respect coutry where they are living I'll respect them. But, you can see what is happening in Kosovo and Metohija.
I hope that you will understand what I wanted to say.
About PAOK and national team of Greece. I was talking with leading boys from GATE 4, NEAPOLI, SYKIES... and they don't feel that national team like their national team. They said that thay hate "bastards" in blue.
You can find more here:
http://www.juznifront.net/jfforum/viewtopic.php?t=977
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I'm afraid that's not exactly the case :01:
We support the national team and thousands of people celebrated the euro2004 stunning displays.We just didn't approve the way the matter of the national team was managed through the last years.The criteria for the selection of managers was mainly political, the criteria for the selection of players was if they played in gay-ros or Panathinaikos, and in general it didn't express what we feel about greek football.
Things have changed to better in the last year.With a foreign manager taking control of the club and good football displayed we couldn't be less than happy.There aren't any P.A.O.K. players in the club, indeed.The main reason for that is that in the last year we lost many players as free agents and rebuilded the sqouad with youngsters.It was pretty odd to select one of those players (except Salpingidis perhaps) to play in Euro 2004.Don't forget that many of the players having vital role in the National Team have played to P.A.O.K. (Kafes,Georgiadis,Zagorakis,Venetidis,Vryzas). That's because our recent owners couldn't keep them in the club and were forced to sell or leave them free due to lack of funds.
We are Greeks but because of our point of view in several matters we get misinterpreted.The opinion in the forum you sent us, my brother juzni , is not the best representative of a P.A.O.K. fan.Anyway, you weren't obliged to know.Hope i helped and didn't take it too far.
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petrovgr! thanx for clean up! I saw pictures about the celebrity in Greece, it was more than great!
bannon! you said, man, you said (i.e. greek final) ;)
juzni! yes, I heard about the serbian boy. I cannot believe it that there are men who did this... I hope that there is no connection between the injured guy's nationality and this disgusting thing. Other! there is a Hungarian forum where Hungarian funs are discussing. One of us uses the same nick name (juzni front) than you. He comes from Szeged (near Serb/Hungary border) and he reports about your matches and your firm. Maybe you know him.
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petrovgr. That is oppinion of one of the leaders of PAOK fans. Also I was talking with the leading members of NEAPOLI, SYKIES and others from GATE 4, they have the same oppinion. They don't support national team of Greece. I didn't say that all PAOK fans not support national team. I just mentioned aboyt them.
funthomas. I don't know that boy from Szeged, but I thing there is one boy on JF forum from Szeged, maybe it's him. I am glad if you are thinkibg like you wrote. take care.
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Turkish and Greek fans celebrated Greece`s European 2004 Championship title into the night last night. Turkish and Greek fans enjoying their holidays in Turkey watched the final match of Euro 2004 between Portugal and Greece in Êùíóôáíôéíïýðïëç on a huge screen.
Some 500 Turkish and Greek fans holding Greek and Turkish flags and banners voiced support for their neighbor Greece and sat side by side and watching the final game with great excitement.
Greece edged out host Portugal 1-0 in the final match of Euro 2004 thanks to Angelos Haristeas`s 57th minute winner.
Greek Mega TV live broadcasted the Turkish and Greek fans watching the final match that brought the best achievement in international soccer history to Greece.
Fans began dancing and celebrations followed the final whistle of the referee. The cheering reached its peak when drums began to beat and Turkish and Greek fans began to dance their traditional folks dances arm in arm.
(https://www.paokworld.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fturkishsoccer.homestead.com%2Ffiles%2FHESG_20040705002445_IST180.jpg&hash=6f7b74e0d027ff10c32e8e5aac7288c164111cfd)
Well maybe u dont support but anyway i want to say that congratulations guys,really great job..
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After the final in Belgrade were more than 2.000 Greeks and Serbs celebrating in the city's main square.
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I was born in Neapoli and from what i remember the Fan Club used to make long journeys to support the national team.The fan club was forced to close several times in the past decades due to political reasons, and many misenterpreted their stance several times (that i wrote above).I don't know about gate 4 and Sykies but from what is written in this forum by the gate 4 representative there is joy and support for the national teams' glory.Of course our love for P.A.O.K. is something a lot stronger and deeper, but in the past many P.A.O.K. players used to shine in the national team
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I have the same opinion with petrovgr about the greek national team.the last 2 years almost everybody supports the team as they changed many things,especially due to our coach.although i still dont like the men who control the greek football assocciation i am proud of the team.
@juznifront:when you last spoken with them.maybe they changed their opinion as many others also did ;)
ps.maybe chris will open a new topic now 8)
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I have spoken with them during the Euro 2004. and after the final. They didn't change their oppinion, trust me.
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I have the same opinion with petrovgr about the greek national team.the last 2 years almost everybody supports
the team as they changed many things,especially due to our coach.although i still dont like the men who control
the greek football assocciation i am proud of the team.
@juznifront:when you last spoken with them.maybe they changed their opinion as many others also did ;)
ps.maybe chris will open a new topic now 8)
;D well,the truth is somewhere beetween the midle.
i have watched almost all the matches of greek national team in fans clubs of dytikes synoikies and also i have opinion
about many others,cause i spoke with some leaders of those also.
@juznifront sources are right is my conclusion.the majority of the fanatics PAOK fans dont like ..lets say better
dont love greek national team.and dont forget that @juznifront was talking about fanatics PAOK fans not all
the PAOK fans.
of cource who am i to talk about all the PAOK fans?its just my opinion from what i 've heard with my ears and see
with my eyes.
as for neapoli fan club that has menssioned @petrovgr above:<<I was born in Neapoli and from what i remember the
Fan Club used to make long journeys to support the national team.>> what had happened was in the '60..and only
in the '60.that is what in the www.paokneapoli.com is writen and thats all and nothing more.and i know that for
sure.anyone who dont know the history of neapoli fan club ,pls do not jumb into conclusions so easily.
only their president has a passion for greek national team.and thats because he is a extreme
ethnicist.(xexe,@juznifront u 've already know that..i am sure as u know neapoli and lefterh very well)
as for me,i was very happy with the idea that represents our national team first and after the national team itsself.and of cource i was very happy
with the national team
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Einai ki alloi pou goustaroun Ethniki Chris.Oxi mono o lefteris.
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Kostas4, I know wery well Leftheris (great tatoo UNITED) and did't know that he supports Greek national team. When we used to talk about Euro 2004. we were talking aobut our trip to Portugal. And he told me that he'll not support Greece, he'll go with English fans. OK, maybe I am wrong abouth Tzakalaki (I like to call him like that), but I am not wron about, like you said, fanitics of PAOK. Really what I learned is that thay hate natinal team. Like most of Partizan fans, we don't support national team of Serbia and Montenegro. Most of us hate that national team.
PAOK - PARTIZAN - ORTHODOX BROTHERS
PS See you in 3rd round of qualifications for CL. I'll be there with PAOK.
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Sorry, it was not for Kostas4, it was for Chris.
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Sorry, it was not for Kostas4, it was for Chris.
xaxa,ok now i have to say more ;D
yes he was in the first matches of our national team in portugal.and yes he went also to see england.(he says that national team of england is like PAOK:a lot of fanatic fans and no titles ;),and also have great hooligans.i talk with him when he return-bafore the match against tcexia..what i have understand from our conversation(its my humble opinion always) was ,no matter how bitter he is with the souths who are calling us BOULGAROI the love for the great nation of greece is above all
cheers my friend
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We are the champions!!!!!!!!!!! :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :smiliedisco1: :smiliedisco1: :smiliedisco1: :05: :05:
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And our balls are moving...
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Champions league 2nd round qualification: Loki - Hajduk Split... :o 8)
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fuck bloody croats
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Debrecen - Hajduk Split
3 - 0
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
2nd leg is on Wednesday in Split...
next team is ManUtd!!! :cwm12:
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We are waiting for the 15th of Octomber!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Pssst esy, psile .....
ligo hrema re file.... kalosorises kat'arxhn,
kai mhn mpaineis ki etsi fouriozos...... stous titlous sou.
oute mufc na eisouna..... :10:
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Pssst esy, psile .....
ligo hrema re file.... kalosorises kat'arxhn,
kai mhn mpaineis ki etsi fouriozos...... stous titlous sou.
oute mufc na eisouna..... :10:
PAOK in English,please.
Thanx
:happy:
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ΕΧΩ ΧΑΖΕΨΕΙ ΜΕ ΣΕΝΑ ΠΟΥ'ΧΩ ΜΠΛΕΞΕΙ
ΔΕΝ ΕΙΜΑΣΤΕ ΚΑΛΑ
ΔΕΝ ΕΧΟΥΜΕ ΜΥΑΛΟ
ΕΙΜΑΣΤΕ ΑΡΡΩΣΤΟΙ ΜΕ ΤΟΝ ΠΑΟΚ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟ
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Debrecen - Hajduk Split
3 - 0
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
2nd leg is on Wednesday in Split...
next team is ManUtd!!! :cwm12:
Split - Loki
0 - 5!!!!!!!! :05: :headbang: :cwm12:
Next is Manchester United on Tuesday!! Remember my words! ;)
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Σιγά ρε μαλάκα. Η ομάδα σου είναι ο ΟΣΕ της Ουγγαρίας. Με την Μάντσεστερ μπορεί να μην παίζουμε, αλλά τον καρβουνιάρη δεν τον έχουμε για σήμα.
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Debrecen - Hajduk Split
3 - 0
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
2nd leg is on Wednesday in Split...
next team is ManUtd!!! :cwm12:
Split - Loki
0 - 5!!!!!!!! :05: :headbang: :cwm12:
Next is Manchester United on Tuesday!! Remember my words! ;)
Debrecen, Debrecen!!!! :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: Magyarok u magyraroke! ( :lol:)
Croatia back to their roots! :headbang:
:happy:
:D
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oi κροατες τα κονομησαν απο το στοιχημα ολοι τους παιζανε 1 ............μεταφραστε στον ουγγρο ρε
παιδια βουιξε ολη η ευρωπη οτι το 0-5 ηταν μιλημενο για να τα αρπαξουν οι μπουκ............