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Title: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: bannon on July 08, 2003, 00:26:18
auto pou prepei na skeftoume oloi, einai me pio tropo tha mporesoume na polemisoume olous autous pou polemane mia zoi tin voreia ellada kai olous tous ekfrastes tis, me kiriotero olon tin idea mas, ton PAOK. i dinami pou exoume oloi mas, i agorastiki mas dinami mporei kai prepei na fanei sta tameia olon afton pou mas theoroun amerikanakia. entaxei re paidia, den exoun oloi tin dinatotita na agorasoun diarkeias, mplouzes klp enisxiontas etsi tin omada mas. omos gala den agorazoume oloi? giati na kanoume magkes tous kathe fage, delta klp? gia na mas poulane prologo oti to proion tous paragetai sti makedonia? gia na dioikoun to aekaki kai na mas polemoun me ta esoda apo tis dikes mas agores? na poume gia panafon, intralot (kokkalis), avin (valitsogiannis), fage, mimikos (fillipou, granitsas), trapeza peiraios (sallas) pou eno psixoragouse to aekaki to martio, tous edose to fili tis zois me 600M kai diafimisi sti fanella? mporoume na katefthinoume etsi tis agores mas gia na dosoume to stigma mas. mporoume na ipostirixoume tous sponsores pou tha boithisoun tin omada mas. mporoume na ipostirixoume gigeneis etaireies na megalosoun kai na sponsonaristoun stin omada mas. meta klaigomaste kai leme den iparxoun epixirimaties kai ependites gia na endiaferthoun gia ton PAOK kai synexeia peftoume sta athinaika lamogia. exoume dinami kai prepei na ti dixnoume kathe mera. giati to thema einai ideologiko!
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: pavlosk on July 11, 2003, 14:06:07
emena pali me enoxlei kai poly malista oso einai akoma o mpatman sthn koryfh tou PAOK.

Kai o logos einai aplos den thelw pali na trexw to kalokairi kai na klaigome kai na odyromai kai na fwnazw kai na vrizw thn politikh eksousia gia thn mizeria tou PAOK kai gia t dithen krato twn athinwn.

Autoi mas exoun grammenoi sta @@ tous oute kan tous endiaferi o PAOK giati arkoumaste kai me ta liga, mas petane loipon psixoula kai emeis san zhtianoi pou eimaste ta dexomaste.....

Tha mas fovithoun omws otan exoume mia sovarh kai aneksarthth doihkhsh pou na kserei na proaspizei ta symferonta tou PAOK entos kai ektos agwnistikou xwrou.

Mia tetoia doihkhsh kat eme den einai efikth oso eionai akoma mesa sta pragmata o mpatman.

palvlosk
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: karlito4 on July 11, 2003, 14:17:56
Quote from: pavlosk on July 11, 2003, 14:06:07
emena pali me enoxlei kai poly malista oso einai akoma o mpatman sthn koryfh tou PAOK.

Kai o logos einai aplos den thelw pali na trexw to kalokairi kai na klaigome kai na odyromai kai na fwnazw kai na vrizw thn politikh eksousia gia thn mizeria tou PAOK kai gia t dithen krato twn athinwn.


re sy pavlosk to dh8en kratos twn a8hnwn den to katalavainw pou les.me mia kouventa anatrepeis ola ayta pou pistevoume.fusika yparxei kratos twn a8hnwn kai symferonta pou eksyphretoun tis omades twn a8hnwn.

fysika yparxei kratos twn a8hnwn pou synexws trypane thn omada mas.

fysika yparxei kratos twn a8hnwn pou orizei diaithtes kamikazi kai klevoune va8mous h mallon dinoune kalpikes eukairies stis omades twn a8hnwn enantion tou PAOK mas.

fysika yparxei kratos twn a8hnwn kai ypallhlos aytou tou kratous einai kai o batatoudis.

fysika yparxei kratos twn a8hnwn to opoio sthrizetai kai yposthrizetai apo tous ekastote politikous. den einai dh8en einai pragmatikothta.

PAOK MIA ZWH.ENANTIA STO KATESTHMENO KAI STIS POUSTIES.ENANTIA SE OLOUS KAI SE OLA POU POLEMANE THN OMADA MAS.

Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: pavlosk on July 11, 2003, 18:56:39
xmmm autoto legomeno krato twn athinwn ti exei na fovithei apo ton PAOK ths teleutaias 15etias ? ?

monoi mas dialithikame podosfairika

monoi mas dialithikame oikonimika

eimastan ta teleutaia 15 xronia (peripou) ikanoi san omada na xtypisoume prwtathlima ?

Den arkei mono na exeis kalh omada entos agwnistikou xwrou alla kai mia eksisou kalhterh omada ektos pou n amhn afhnei na sfazoun tis prospatheies pou ginontai mesa sto teren na sfazontai sto gonato.

Otan loipon apokthsoume kai ta dyo tote tha asxolithoun pragmatika me ton PAOK oi athinaioi..alliws mia zwh tha eimaste oson afora ton prwtathlitismo anyparktoi.

Alla kai etsi na einai opws to les oti vazoun diathtes gia na mas kospoun vathmous sta metaksy mas mats.....kai pali to kanoun gia allous skopous kai oxi gia logous prwtathlitismou...etsi kai alliws o PAOK paei kai autoktonei se kati panaxaikes se kati aigalew se kati iwnikous klp klp.

Diafores twn 20 kai 30 vathmwn den einai mono apo sthmenes diathsies.

pavlosk
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: Maestro on July 11, 2003, 21:01:00
Re pavlosk se oti exeis pei mexri tora simfono A-P-O-L-I-T-A.
As teleionoume me thn mizeria pou mas dernei...
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: lemmy on July 11, 2003, 21:49:00
Μεγαλη αληθεια ειπες Pavlosk
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: shpongle4 on July 11, 2003, 23:50:56
xmmm autoto legomeno krato twn athinwn ti exei na fovithei apo ton PAOK ths teleutaias 15etias ? ?
exei na vovh8ei tis ekstrateies XILIADWN extremistwn apo th MAKEDONIA ka8e xrono....tote pu h ka8odos twn myriwn ekane tus pantes kai ta panta (apo estiatoria pu apo tis 4 to apogevma sth lamia mexri kai oloklhrus sta8mus trenwn (larishs) EKLEINAN!) na tremun...apo FOVO kata thn gnwmh pollwn, apo SEVASMO lata th gnwmh twn oswn gnwrizan!!!
eixe na vo8h8ei kai alla, mono pu ayto htan to pio shmantiko....
kai gia na mhn les oti exw meinei sta palia kai prepei na xypnhsw, pws allwste na kaneis PRWTA8LHTISMO OTAN STO SHMANTIKOTERO AGWNA THS XRONIAS SE AFHNUN XWRIS OPADUS????kai se afhnun me th symfwnh gnwmh kratus, astynomias, epae, pae....

eimastan ta teleutaia 15 xronia (peripou) ikanoi san omada na xtypisoume prwtathlima ?
twra plakitsa me kaneis e pavlara???posses fores akuses apo stomata allo8rhskwn sth periodo 1997-2003 oti o PAOK paizei th pio strwmenh mpalla??? 5? 4? 3? estw 2?

Den arkei mono na exeis kalh omada entos agwnistikou xwrou alla kai mia eksisou kalhterh omada ektos pou n amhn afhnei na sfazoun tis prospatheies pou ginontai mesa sto teren na sfazontai sto gonato
na ageiasei to stoma su adelfe....o ponos ka8e ÐÁÏÊôóÞ....ENAN GAMHMENO PROEDRO ANTAXIO TU LAU TU!!! O PAOK 8ELLEI PROEDRO ME ARXIDIA KAI OXI KA8E XRONO TA IDIA KAI TA IDIA

prosexe omws adelfe mhn paiseis sth pagida tu na gyriseis kai na peis, "e, as eixa kai egw egglhmaties proedrus (karras, mellisanidhs, koskwtas kai kai kai), kai as ekana prwta8lhtismo!!!"...ekei einai h nohth grammh tu yperhfanu ÐÁÏÊôóÞ me to rufiano a8hnaio.....KALYTERA MIA KUPA ME TO TSAMPUKA PARA MIA NTUZINA MESA STH PUSTIA!!!

Alla kai etsi na einai opws to les oti vazoun diathtes gia na mas kospoun vathmous sta metaksy mas mats.....kai pali to kanoun gia allous skopous kai oxi gia logous prwtathlitismou...etsi kai alliws o PAOK paei kai autoktonei se kati panaxaikes se kati aigalew se kati iwnikous klp klp.
kai poios se leei pavlara oti terma oi sfages sta derby (pu ti terma....olo kai xeirotera ginontai!!!gavros fetos 3 fores, pao, xan8h...), 8a sfazume ton paok me tis mikres omades wste oi opadoi na ta xwnun stus paixtes....exypno kolpaki e??? kai eykolo sthn efarmogh tu!!!

Diafores twn 20 kai 30 vathmwn den einai mono apo sthmenes diathsies
emena me endiaferei oti sto diagramma ths istorias tu paok h telitsa mphke sto 4.....kai propesry, kai persy, kai fetos, kai isws kai tu xronu!!!! twra oi diafores einai gia aytus pu kratan statistika stoixeia kai kanun erevnes agoras :P....
h mhpws eixa dikio kai den hmun m'paok' otan elega stus gavrus (stis fiestes tus!!! 8)) oti den prepei na panyghrizun ta 2 teleytaia prwta8lhmata mias kai den ta peiran ws 'ka8aroi' prwtoi logw tu oti eixan idius va8mus me aek kai pao....

TO AN YPARXEI KRATOS TWN A8HNWN FILE PAVLO KAI OLOI OSOI SYMFWNEITE MPOREITE NA TO EXAKRIVWSETE SE OPOIA EKDROMH 8ELETE STO LEKANOPEDIO.....EKEI 8A DEITE AN YPARXEI TO KRATOS THS A8HNAS KAI TO POSO ASXOLEITAI ME THN PAOKARA MAS....

KAI ENNOEITE OTI O KALYTEROS YPALLHLOS TU KRATUS AYTU HTAN EINAI KAI SYNEXIZEI NA EINAI O KARKINIARHS BATMAN....MA KAI FYSIKA PANTOTE TO KRATOS THS A8HNAS STHRIZE THN EKASTOTE KYVERNHSH....KAI H ARXH AYTH ME TH SEIRA THS EXASFALIZE TA DEONTA (tropaia, paixtes, lefta mavra kai kai) GIA TIS OMADES TWN A8HNWN...

POLLOI APO EMAS ZHSAME MESA SE AYTO KRATOS....ALLOI PALI ETYXE NA GENNH8UN EKEI MESA STH XAVUZA...AKOMA PIO POLLOI KA8E XRONO MESA APO TIS EKDROMES-EPISKEPSEIS VLEPUN TH SAPILA TU KENTRU TWN APOFASEWN....

MEGALWSAME/ZHSAME/EIDAME GAVRUS/VAZELUS/KITRINES PUTANITSES deytera prwi sto sxoleio/duleia/kafeteria kai meta apo yper tus diaithsia to prohgumeno vrady, ANTI NA XAMHLWNUN TO KEFALI KAI NA NTREPONTE, na se vgazun kai gnwssa....na prospa8un na dikaiologhsun ta adikaiologhta me kathgories tu styl "kai eseis tote kanate ayto kai peirate to allo" kai xerw gw...kai sta polla strhmwgmata na su apantun me ena aplo kai toso asxeto kai ahdiastiko "v u l g a r e, esy ti milas...egw exw 32 prwta8lhmata kai xerw gw possa kypella" h "egw eftasa stus 4 ths evrwphs kai ekana ayto me ton ajax kai to allo me th real kai kai"......AYTH H SAPILA EINAI PU SIXAINOMASTE.....

AYTO EINAI TO KENTRO APOFASEWN PU YPARXEI KAI TOSO VRWMAEI...
...H A8HNA EXEI TH DYNAMH (h8ikoxrhmatikh) NA METATREPEI OLH TH SAPILA KAI KATAVR98A PU EKVALEI SE AYTH TH XAVUZA SE TITLUS KAI MEGALA ERGA...EXEI MIA AORATH (gia aytus alla pashfanhs se emas) IKANOTHTA NA MAS YPEN8IMHZEI KA8E LIGO KAI LIGAKI OTI H ELLADA EINAI APO TO KOLWNAKI KAI TA VOREIA PROASTEIA MEXRI TO ("megalytero limani ths xwras"  :P :P :P) TO PEIRAIA!!!

EMEIS ME TH SEIRA MAS MESA APO THN AGAPH MAS GIA TO PAOK 9A TUS 8YMIZUME OTI EIMASTE EDW MONO KAI MONO GIA NA TUS 8YMIZUME OTI O NEOTEROS VASILIAS MAS TUS PEIRE MESA SE ENA VRADY....
OTI H POLH TUS TO XRYSO THS AIWNA TO MONO PU AFHSE WS PARAKATA8HKH STA PAIDIA THS KAI STA EGGONIA THS HTAN TA PERIFHMA TEIXH, PU PISW FYLASONTAN APO ANYPARXTUS EX8RUS!!!!AKOMA KAI TOTE FOVONTUSAN TON KA8ENA PU EFERNE ANTIRRHSH SE AYTO PU MONOI TUS APOFASIZAN...8ELLAN NA EINAI PRWTOI, DEN XREIAZONTUSAN UTE KAN TON DEYTERO, MIAS KAI AYTO TUS GEMIZE FOVO, VRWMOKOTES...
OTI TO POLY OMORFO(!!!) KAI ANAKAINISMENO(!!!) LIMANI TU PEIRAIA, MEGALURGHSE KAI EGINE GNWSTO ANA TO KOSMO WS XWROS XEMPUKWMATOS TU PLHRWMATOS KA8E EIDUS KARAVIU (karydotsuflo, fuskwto, piroga, trata, kri kri, ypovryxio, gkazadiko, epivatiko, aeroplanoforo, yperwkyanio)

[glow=white, black,2,300]EIMASTE EDW, TA AIWNIA FTERA TU DIKEFALU AETU MAS, GIA NA TUS 8YMIZUME OTI EIMASTE TOSO YPERHFANOI PU DIAFERUME APO AYTUS!!!ETSI WSTE AYTOI NA SYNEXISUN NA VLEPUN TA MUTRA TUS STO KA8REFTH KAI NA ANTILAMVANONTAI THS AHDIA, SAPILA KAI SIXAMARA PU PROSFERUN ME THN YPARXH TUS... [/glow]


PAOK PANTA KAI PANTU.....
PAOK MESA STO PUSTARA TO NOTO!!!!

kai epeidh vlepw na mu ta xWNun oi armodioi gia thn diathrhsh mias taxhs edw mesa, AS VRE8EI EPITELUS AYTH H PROEDRIA PU 8A MAS KANEI NA NIWSUME OLOKLHRWTIKA ANWTEROI APO TUS ALLUS...ola ayta ta xronia mas leipei ayto kai isws na einai ayto pu panta plhrwnume...ISWS AKOMA AKOMA KAI LYPAMAI POLY NA EINAI AYTO PU MAS KANEI NA DIKAIOLOGUME TA AISXH TWN ALLWN KAI NA EKLAMVANUME THN PUSTIA TU ALLU WS ADYNAMIA DIKIA MAS!!!
makari h arxh na ginei apo olus aytus pu asxolunte twra (einai kai polloi pana8ema tus...se tyxon stravh (ftu ftu) 8a prepei na vgazume makryskelh syn8hmata)...  
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: pavlosk on July 15, 2003, 01:16:53
shpongle4 otan grafeis aderde kourazete o allos mono kai sthn skepsh na apanthsei ;)

Telos pantwn einai thema pws to vlepei o kathenas, tha prospathisw na dw apanthsw h na pw thn gnwmh mou panw se auta pou egrapses :

Exoume kai leme me thn kathodo twn myriwn pou grafeis to thymame poly kala alla den pauei na htan mono 3 agwnistikes palia oi opies exoun ginei molis 1 kai mish ta teleutaia xronia, parolo auta den fovithikan toso giati gnwrizan oti den antexoume.[/color]


Gia thn kalh mpalla pou les
nai exw akousei polles fores na lene oti o PAOK paizei kalh mpalla....yphrxe omws kai to gamhmeno to ALLA....pou akolouthouse kai legane poso tha anteksei ? ? ?
eipame den arkei na paizeis mono mpalla otan thes na kaneis prwtathlitismo[/color]


gia roufianous PROEDROUS
ennoeite oti den thelw MALAKES pou na mou fernoun kypella me pousties OXI etsi na ta valoun ston kwlo tous[/color]


gia ta mats kai tis diafores vathmwn

Gia ta mats pou milaw ta exw dei kai exw spasei palia radiakia kai teleutaia thlecontrol apo thn adiaforia paiktwn mas,ekei den mas eftaige kaneis POKikos paragontas, exoume gamw thn trema mou mesa se auto to mpourdelo pou legete ellada na exoume kai taseis autoktonias

gia to ti travaei o ÐÁÏÊôóçò otan katevainei stin athina to kseroume kai an milas me gauro tha sou pei oti ta prwtathlimata tou vazelou kai ths aek einai sthmena kai ean milas me tous allous tha sou poun oti tou gaurou einai sthmena klp klp  skopos omws einai emeis ti kanoume kai ws twra tous afhnoume na moirazoun thn pita opws autoi goustaroun[/color]

gia na mhn polylogw ena teleutaio to aekaki tws deka ? prwtathlimatwn ean den eixe, ekei fysika pou aksize na to parei, ikanh dhoikhsh tha ta eperne ? ? gia ta prwtathlimata-tsampouka na ta valoun ston kwlo tous alla ekei pou aksize ta phre dioti autoi pou htan gyrw apo thn omada kanane swsth douleia.
Ean o PAOK apo to 70 mexri 90 eixe swstes dhoikhsies pou tha mporousan na prostatepsoun thn omada apo pousties tha eixame sigoura alla 8-10 prwtathlimata..alla apo 90 mexri shmera den eixame dyshxws oute dioikhsh oute omada[/color]

pavlosk

Y.G1 : na mhn ksexniomaste MPATATOUDI MPATATOUDI POUSTARA ANTE PARE TA SKYLIA SOU KAI KSANA STON PEIRAIA

Y.G2 : mhpws egine ligo mpourdelo to post pao ta xrwmata ? ?

Y.G3 : o megalyteros mou fovos einai mhn ginoume san ton rouli sthn dioikhsh kai autoi ksekinhsan me kontomhna, efyge irthe o zaxoudanhs gia ena xrono kai eginan ola mouni....etsi kai se mas nai men irthe o goumenos kai cia alla oi metoxes einai akoma ston MPAT-POYTANASGIO
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: shpongle4 on July 15, 2003, 04:35:42
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shpongle4 otan grafeis aderde kourazete o allos mono kai sthn skepsh na apanthsei


TO MEGALO MU OPLO ADELFE....KOIMIZEIS TON ALLON KAI STA KAPAKIA NTU!!!! :P :P


ta ypoloipa (apanthseis, apopseis, empeiries) en kairw mias kai trexw san to kenterh aytes tis meres....


PAOK EDW PAOK EKEI PAOK 8A EIMAI MIA ZWH
KAI OSO ZW...........
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..........................8A TRAGUDW GAMW TON OLYMPIAKO,
TO MPATATUDH KAI TO XONTRO
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: chris on July 15, 2003, 11:57:11
ASE TO "NTOY" NA TO KANW EGW ALEKSH kai akou edw MIA KAI KALH @pavlosk,giati apo thn mia exoume tis zestes apo thn allh -wres-wres- esena NA MAS ANEBAZHS THN PIESH me afta pou grafhs!
k den to kanhs EDW mono.EDW K 3 XRONIA,APO TON KAIRO TU GUESTBOOK TU PAOK.DE exeis -wres-wres- sta grafomena su to styl:"tu diaforetikou","tu psagmenou",k den kserw gw ti allo
SE AFTO TO FORUM EGW PROSWPIKA DEN PROKEITAI POTE! NA AFHSW KAPOION H KAPOIUS NA PEREKLINEI APO TON SKOPO PU EKSHPHRETEI AFTO TO FORUM:na einai dhladh to forum ta "syghnonounta doxeia" metaksy aftwn pu kseroume,aftwn pu exoume zhsei,aftwn pou ma8ainoume,aftwn pu diabazoume apo to ypoloipo kommati tu paokworld,aftwn pu antalasoume apopseis metaksy mas edw gia na MA8AINOUME

*8a mas milhseis twra k gia TO ANYPARKTO KAT ESE KATESTHMENO TWN A8HNWN!(eite afto phgazei apo to oti DEN KSEREIS?den gnwrizw an eisoun POTE ELLADA ta last 15-17 xronia KAI DEN ME ENDIAFEREI,eite apo thn entexnh propaganda twn opoiwn M.M.E. ka8esai k diabazhs?ALLIWS DEN MPORW NA EKSHGHSW THN AGNOIA SOU SE BASIKOTATA 8EMATA)
(opws k na exei DEN ME ENDIAFEREI KA8OLOU MA KA8OLOU!as prosexeis ti grafeis,giati kapoies apopseis su tis grafeis ktis ksanagrafeis-den mporei na einai dhladh ameleia h la8os ths mias foras.k den pane na su apantane kapoioi me epeixhrhmata,esy ksana epeimenhs!ANTIDRASTIKOUS GIA THN ANTIDRASH,ATOMA PU NOMIZOUN OTI 8A KSEXWRISOUN SAN THN MYGA MES STO GALA GIA TUS OPOIUS LOGOUS TUS MESA APO ENA FORUM DEN 8A TUS KANOUME THN XARH(allos einai o skopos aftou tu forum)

KATESTHMENO?

(em bebaia ase tus allous na trwne sifonia,petres,maxairies,k sy na GRAFHS AFTA PU GRAFHS STO INTERNET!einai akyndino k sigouro)


kai einai tosa ma tosa akoma pu kourazomai na ta grafw AFOU ESY! 8A EPREPE NA TA KSEREIS PRWTOU -SYNEXIZEIS- NA BGAZHS BLAKES OLOUS EMAS K NA MAS EIRWNEVESAI GIA TO ANYPARKTO -KAT ESE- KATESTHMENO(k ainte na ta grafh afta kapoios parasyrmenos pitsirikas...einai OK gia mena.ALLA NA TA GRAFH K NA EPEIMENH XWRIS GNWSEIS TU PAREL8ONTOS KAPOIOS SAN ESENA PU EXEIS KAPOIA HLIKIA(30bale egrapses sto profile su) PAEI POLY.

eite loipon den ksereis,den ezhses,den 8ymasai DEN ME NOIAZEI
eite loipon afta su eipane,afta diabazhs, DEN ME ENDIAFEREI
eite loipon pleon ektei8esai DEN ME ENDIAFEREI PALI

ena katesthmeno PU ANAMFIBOLA pote! den prepei na leiturghsei san "kolymbh8ra tu sylwam" gia oles tis ypoloipes malakies twn dioikuntwn mas giati tote NAI!GINOMASTE OI "GRAFIKOI PAOKTSHDES" PU OLA TUS FTAINE EKTOS APO TIS DIKES TUS MALAKIES.

yparxei omws TROMERH APOSTASH apo afto! to shmeio mexri THS ISOPEDWSHS TWN PANTWN pu eknevristika epeixhrhs(ti nomizeis petyxinhs ektos apo to na ektei8esai?)

KAI ASE TIS PAPARATZES SU PERI LAOU TU PAOK K 3! KA8ODWN STHN A8HNA PALIOTERA.GNWRIZEIS TOOOSO KALA TA TU LAOU TU PAOK PRIN 1 H 2 DEKAETIWN K TWN MAZIKWN KA8ODWN TU?(dhladh egw pu emena apo to 90 a8hna ALLA EBLEPA?gia prosexe loipon ti ANAKRIBEIES grafhs)

oute oi allo8rhskoi den TOLMOUN na ta grapsoun afta(aftoi pu kseroun k 5 pragmata etsi?KAI LEW "GRAPSOUN" GIATI NAI! SE POLLA ALLO8RHSKA SITE "GRAFOUN" KAPOIOI TETOIES PAPARIES.DEN SHMAINH OMWS OTI EINAI GNWSTES H EZHSAN TA PRAGMATA PU GRAFOUN

afta kai TELOS loipon.ekanes mia fora MPOURDELO to topic mazi me ton arafat(TO TOPIC GIA TON AGGELO LEW)....eipame entaksei,paei sto diaolo

AFHSES ANAPANTHTA TA ERWTHMATA PU SU E8ESE O SHPONGLE STO TOPIC "Panachaiki-PAOK 2-2"(symperifores tu styl "eimai anwteros","apaksiw na apanthsw","sas grafw k grafw afta pu 8elw-KAI LEW 8ELW GIATI AN "NOMIZES",dhladh "paidia egw afta NOMIZW" 8a legame ok,to palikari afta NOMIZEI ,alla gustarei DIALOGO....k na akousei tus allous k na ton akousoun,k na plhroforhsei k na plhroforh8ei,dialogos DHLADH)

k milaw gia SYMPERIFORES loipon giati etsi eklambanontai ta grapta su

TELOS LOIPON.EKNEVRIZEIS POLY KOSMO,TO KANHS KAIRO ME SYGEKRIMENA 8EMATA(se polla alla omws exoun ba8os oi apopseis su k einai poly kairies) ALLA SE AFTA TA 2 TELOS!

"PROPONHMENOI STON GRAPTO LOGO" K "ATOMA PU 8ELOUN NA KSEXWRIZOUN SAN THN MYGA MES STO GALA" EDW MESA TELOS.
den antexei afto to forum EPIPLEON entaseis,eknevrismous,oute k antipolitefsh gia thn antipolitefsh.KANHS MAS DEN PROKEITAI NA ALLAKSH TON KOSMO,NA EPIFEREI DRAMATIKES ALLAGES STA DRWMENA TU PAOK MESA APO TO INTERNET.
DEN 8A EKTROXIASEIS OMWS K ENA! AKOMA TOPIC EDW ME TA OSA PEISMATIKA ARNHSAI NA KATALABHS K NA DEXTHS(peismata k egwismoi ALLOU,den antexoume PLEON anakribeies,kritikes ef ypshlou STO ONOMA TU LAOU TU PAOK epeidh ESENA etsi se eksyphretei(ton egwismo sou)
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: chris on July 15, 2003, 11:59:22
KSEFYGE TO TOPIC[mpourdelo egine] K EINAI H TELEFTAIA FORA(nai eimai fasistas,nai "yponow melontikes taktikes antimetwpishs paromoiwn fainomenwn,nai kanw kataxrhsh twn "eksousiwn mu",nai den apeilw,alla nysafi pia!DHMOKRATIA DEN SHMAINH ASYDOSIA.symorfosou,sto xeri sou einai,ksefyges poly.OLOI PAOK EIMASTE ALLA OXI K ETSI.den 8elw e-mail,den 8elw I.M.,an yperisxhsei PALI o egwismos su kai epeixhrhseis "HRWIKH EKSODO aftodiagrafhs" pistepse me elaxistoi 8a stenaxwre8oun.APLA 8A EPIBEBAIWSEIS TON AKRATO EGWISMO SU,EXONTAS PRWTA "IEROSYLHSEI" PANW STHN ISTORIA TU LAOU TU PAOK tu 70-80-arxwn tu 90.AKOU RE 8A SALTAROUME TELEIWS! "3 ka8odoi paliotera"!
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: pavlosk on July 15, 2003, 12:50:36
Chris den einai tou styl mou na kanw hrwikh kai kala eksodo kai tetoies malakies...ean goustareis na banareis kanena provlima kanto.

Oti eixe meinei ena posting tou shpongle4 pros emena anapanthto auto den shmainei tipota...oute kan to eida kai twra me vazeis na koitaksw na dw ti graftike.

Epishs den eironeuomai KANENAN kai POTE den epixeirw na THIKSW KANENA ATOMO eite mesw tou board eite mesw PRWSOPIKOU MYNHMATOS den to exw kanei pote mou kai den prokeite na to kanw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OUTE THELW NA TO PAIKSW KSEROLAS ALLA KATATHETW APLA THN APOPSH MOY OPWS KANOUN KAI OI YPOLOIPOI EDW MESA.


Epishs chris oles oi anafores einai apokleistika gia to PODOSFAIRO (afou auto me kaiei pws na to kanoume) kai apokleistika gia ta peripou teleutaia 15 xronia, gia prin oute kan tolmaw na milaw giati oi alloi (allothriskoi kai mh) kseroune ti tha pei PAOK.

Oso gia to katestimeno twn athinwn einai yparkto alla den ftaiei apokleistika kai mono auto gia thn mizeria pou exei pia o PAOK (dioikitika, omadika, kai opadika)...kai an den einai mizeria re sy chris  na mas pairnoun me tsampouka opoion paikth theloun tote ti einai mizeria (auto den deixnei dioikhtikh anyparksia ?)? ?
Ean den einai mizeria re sy chris o PAOK na autokseftilizete mesa stin panaxaikh apo 0-3 3-3, h mesa sto aigalew h mesa ston iwniko tote ti einai mizeria ?
Sygnwmh alla auta ta mats den mas ta ekopse to athinaiko katestimeno monoi mas kopsame ton laimo mas kai to kako einai oti yparxoun kai alla tetoia paradeigmata.

Ean den einai mizeria re sy chris 1 wra 1 oloklhrh wra prin ton agwna me thn Zyrixh sthn elvetia to mono synthima pou to tragoudane oloi oi PAOKtisdes na einai to : ta vradia pou koimotane h mana tou gamiomate....kai to gamiete o thrilos kai o peiraias....tote ti einai mizeria ? ? ?

Alla re sy chris ksereis ti einai h megalyterh mizeria ? na vlepeis thn toumpa adeia na exei 6000-10000 kosmo kai to 1/3 na einai apo eparxia..

Egw sto mono pou epimenw auth ti stigmh einai o MPATMAN kai tha eimai kaxypoptos oso exei tis metoxes autos.

pavlosk
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: Maestro on July 15, 2003, 22:18:23
Chris m'auta ta miala ama sinexisoume 4 tha teleionoume panta.
Katestimeno kseroume oti yparxei alla emeis ksereis ti kanoume?
Kathomaste kai klegomaste kai fonazoume sto idio to katestimeno na allaksei simperifora.
Ma pos einai dinaton? Fonazeis ston klefth na min klepsei?
Prepei na anasintaksoume tis dinameis mas apo monoi mas kai na to spasoume siga siga xoris na to paroune xampari.
Ola auta ta gegonota pou aneferes ta ksero opos kai alla pio palia. Kai ti egine? Kaname tipota sosto? Kai min mou pei kaneis nai giati stis sfaliares mas exoune.
Oso yia tous opadous tou gaurou, ksero paaaara pollous kai lene... nai kala fonaxte oso thelete sta arxidia mas sas grafoume kai sthn toumpa opote theloume anevenoume kai den fovomaste tipota ktl ktl.
Simfono me ton Pavlosk apolita yiati vlepo ti grafei kai na sou po oti kai ego eimai kourasmenos me tis apopseis tou styl yourousia kai opoion parei o xaros kai ainte patrida ktltkl. Etsi mas theloun oi apokato yiati mas kanoun oti theloun.
Mou thn eipane yiati milousa yia ekseuropaismo ths omadas mas. Exei dikio o Pavlosk otan milaei yia ilithia apotelesmata.
Na prostheso se auta otan xasame to protathlima apo thn Larisa eixame kanei 3 loumpes apisteutes. Me thn larisa sto alkazar isofaristikame sto92 me foul tou Mitsimpona, xasame 0-2 apo gries toumpa kai nikousame mesa sthn Veroia mexri to87' 0-2 kai elikse 2-2. Kai nomizo oti h Veroia anike pio palia ston Savidi, tote proedro mas. Opote min ta rixnoume ola allou.Akouo vrizoune ton Bajevic, tous proin pextes mas ktl ktl.
Thn douleia tous kanoune, kai den pezane kai tosa polla xronnia ston Paok yia na tous kanoume kai simees. Edo ton gx ton theopoisame, afou prota ton ksexasame yiati asxoloumastan me tous allou dio kai otan tous xasame o gx einai simea kai o gx einai palikari kai telika o gx mas egrapse. Giati eimaste alloprosalloi kai den koitaksame na ton kratisoume prota auton. Apodeixteike mounopano? NAI alla oxi yiati efige, to ksanaleo ekane thn douleia tou ston PAOK tha sinexisei na thn kanei kai allou, alla yiati eipe oti pige se omada pou kanei protathlitismo kai pezei CL. Re gkiozi mexri ton Martio sto tepaki mas to eixame to CL kai meta apo mia seira apistetuon malakion to xasame. Min ksexnas oti epezes kai esi. Anyway.
Den simenei epeidei kapoioi pektes peksane ligo stn Paok kai dethikane  (opos Frantzeskos), prepei na simvenei auto me olous. Kai o Bajevic pektes yia thn omada tou pernei. Tha htan mounopano ama htan se allh omada kai eperne pektes apo thn Aek, yiati einai Aektzhs. Kai yia na min pareksigitho, yiati einai poli eukolo, den leo oti oloi autoi pou efigan einai agioi alla min asxoliste allo mazi tous. Asxolithite otan tha erthoun ston NAO.
Kai sto finale kirioi milate oti o PAOK einai idea?
GEMISTE THN TOUMPA SE KATHE PEXNIDI KAI META MILISTE.
Me thn Aek den htan gemath, me ton gauro sto kipello oute.
Den iparxoun lefta stous filathlous?
E tote den idea einai xompi.
Kai sthnAgglia den exoun alla gemata ta gipeda. Kai den milao Premier league mono alla kai Second division. Gama etniki dikia mas.
Opote chris min fortoneis adika an kapoios prospathei na ekferi kapoia alli apopsi. Sto kato kato ean o pavlosk ekneurizei tous pantes edo mesa opos eipes ( milas yia allous kai den xreiazete ), ase autoys na to poune.

Filika
Maestros
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: karlito4 on July 16, 2003, 00:23:26
re sy pavlosk kai maestro poly fagwmara re seis.egw prwsopika symfwno apolyta kai me ton sphongle kai me ton chris.
to montelo tou ekseurwpaismenou paoktsh den to goustarw ka8olou.ena montelo pou oi pio polloi to fagane,egw pantws oxi,apo tote pou htane o servos ston pagko.
grafeis kapoia pragmata pou me vriskoune entelws anti8eto.p.x. eisai poly enantion tou aggelou.kai deyteron aradiazeis deka grammes kai gkremizeis ola auta pou antiprwsopevei h omada mas kai idiaitera o laos mas.
kratos twn a8hnwn yparxei kai 8a yparxei kai 8a to polemame panta.kai to mono pou exei na fovh8ei auto to gamhmeno to kratos einai o O LAOS TOU PAOK kai tipote allo.
kai panta grafeis kati re sy pavlosk kai o monos pou grafei synexeia symfwnw apolyta kai re sy sto myalo mou eisai einai o maestro.

kai se para8etw se ena syn8hmataki apo ton teliko me ton gay ro:

GAMIETAI O 8rh(n)os KAI H ELLADA STON KWLO SAS NA VALETAI KA THN OLYMPIADA

GIATI AYTO TO GAMHMENO TO KRATOS TWN A8HNWN MAS EFTASE EDW POU MAS EFTASE.

KI OSO RE SY MAESTRO TO TI LENE OI GAY ROI STA ARXIDIA MOU EMENA PRWSOPIKA.TA LENE METAKSY TOUS GIA NA PARAMY8IAZONTAI.GIATI MONO AYTOI KSEROUNE PWS TREMEI H KARDOULA TOUS OTAN ANEVAINOUNE STHN TOUMPA.GIA RWTA TOUS TI LEGANE STON TELIKO?POU MAS VLEPANE APENANTI TOUS NA KANOUME PARTY?EKTOS KI AN SE PEISANE OTI MAS TO DWSANE TO KYPELLO.AN HTANE STA ARXIDIA TOUS GIATI FOVOUNTAI ASE POU DEN TO LENE KA8ARA KAI VGHKE H GAY 7 KAI EIPE OTI PROTEINANE STON kokkalh NA MHN KATEVEI H OMADA STO SUPER CUP.
ETSI EIMASTE EMEIS RE FILARAKI KAI SENA SE VAZW MESA GI'AYTO EIMASTE KAI PAOK.AN TA ALLAKSOUME KI AYTA TOTE EINAI POU XA8HKE TO PAIXNIDI.
DEN EIMASTE OUTE vazeloi OUTE gay roi OUTE xanoumia OUTE evraioi OUTE gries.
KSEKOLATE RE O LAOS TOU PAOK EIMASTE.ENAS LAOS PONEMENOS POU DEN KSEXNAEI TIS RIZES TOU KAI TA PISTEVW TOU.POU DEN KSEXNAEI TIS POUSTIES KAI TIS ADIKIES.POU PALEVEI MONOS TOU OLA AYTA TA XRONIA.
POU PAIZEI ME XWRIA STHN EYRWPH KAI SKANE 6000 GIA PLAKA.MILAW MONO GIA GRASSHOPPERS OTAN APO THN ALLH SKANE OI ellhnes eyrwpEoi opadoi 400 kai 500 atoma.

POUTANA A8HNA TON PAOK MAS PROSKYNA

ESEIS ME KSYLA KAI POUSTIES EMEIS ME PETRES KAI MPOUNIES
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: shpongle4 on July 18, 2003, 05:55:11
m'auta ta miala ama sinexisoume 4 tha teleionoume panta.
kalytera 4os kai perhfanos paoktzhs para 1os kai rufianos gavrovazeloputanitsas!!!

Katestimeno kseroume oti yparxei alla emeis ksereis ti kanoume?
akolu8ame thn agaph mas PANTU KAI PANTA eite vrexei eite xionizei eite exei 40 va8mus kelsiu...

Kai ti egine? Kaname tipota sosto? Kai min mou pei kaneis nai giati stis sfaliares mas exoune.
mas exun stis sfaliares????muxaXaAXaxXXxaxAXAaXXaxaXaxAXaXAXa...trelenomai.. .pes kai alla pes kai alla!!!gustarw!!!

Oso yia tous opadous tou gaurou, ksero paaaara pollous kai lene... nai kala fonaxte oso thelete sta arxidia mas sas grafoume kai sthn toumpa opote theloume anevenoume kai den fovomaste tipota ktl ktl
mallon aytes oi 'kakes' perees 8a ftaine!!! opote 8ellun anevainun???muXaxXAxAXaxAXaxAax.....KAI DEN FOVUNTE TIPOTA????muxaxaAXAxaXaxAAxaXAX....
r cs as ton pei kapoios pu etyxe fetos na einai sto derby me to gavro ti egine....gia poion lao mas MILAS REEEE!!!gia ayton pu apla mphke sto ghpedo kai fwnaxe kunwntas 3 pano MONO otan valan to 'penalty' kai kata th deiarkeia ths diakophs tu paixnidiu??? ekei pu oloi SWPASAME kai nomizame (me to tropo pu epese o 'h8opoios-linesman' oti paei skotw8hke!!! gia poion gamhmeno lao r satyre me tsampunas kai me les oti kanun oti 8elun??? E?? gia ayton pu yphrxan 70 kluves MONO gyrw apo th 8yra 8-7??? gia aytus tus 'hrwes' pu gia xarh tus EKLEISE H ASTYNOMIA TA TRIA TETARTA THS 8ESSALONIKHS??? ayta ta 'alania' pu prokalusan oti 8a anevun me trena kai xerw gw kai otan ftasan sta malgara kryvan ta kaskolakia tus sth 8ea kapoiu paoktzhdiku kaskol/shmaias se pulamn h aytokinhto....
GIA AYTO TO LAO PU ANEVHKE STH 8ESSALONIKH ME EXODA EKDROMHS 5 EURO???? e??? h mhpws ayta ta filarakia su ta kanun gargares??? h mhpws kan den ta xerun giati pote tus ute aytoi exun pathsei sth tumpa!!!
r c me lalas gia ta prwtopalikara tu pustogavru kai den me les gia olus osus aspromavrus vre8hkan ekeino to apogevma ston agwna PU ANAGGAZONTAN NA PERPATHSUN XILIOMETRA OLOKLHRA GIA NA FTASUN STIS KERKIDES pu mas analogusan mias kai eixan kleisei akoma kai ta mpalkonia twn polykatoikiwn apo thn evridiadu mexri kai ayta sthn amfipolews....
kai den milaw gia olus emas tus ektos 8essalonikhs pu me ta pulman mas stamatusan se ka8e gefyra apo th katerinh mexri kai to periferiako pu striveis gia to nao gia iera exetash pros anevresh 'egglhmatikwn' kai akrws 'epikyndhnwn' RIZZLA, PANO S.F., AYTOKOLLHTA S.F.!!!!
milas gia aytus tus KWLOMAGGES sto topic tu pio istoriku lau ths ellados kai mporei kai ths evrwphs, pu to kratos gia na tus prostatepsei eixe se ka8e mia apo tis parapanw aytes gefyres kai apasxoluse apo 2 peripolika me 3 astynomus to ka8ena...

etsi alani mu egw paw opote 8ellw sthn a8hna kai thn kaiw ki'olas....ALLA FYSIKA DEN ASOLUMASTE PLEON ME TO TI TRAVAME EMEIS STHN A8HNA....einai PALIO ayto kai den yparxei logos na to skalizume....GINOMASTE GRAFIKOI....!!!vre ai na mhn pw, mas pulate kai trelitsa, aku ekei mas exun sth sfaliara!!!

eimai kourasmenos me tis apopseis tou styl yourousia kai opoion parei o xaros kai ainte patrida ktltkl. Etsi mas theloun oi apokato yiati mas kanoun oti theloun.
otan 8a katalaveis tis ennoies GIURUSI kai PATRIDA kai 8a ma8eis na tis xrhsimopoieis swsta isws ola tote na einai kalytera...kapote me giurusi apeley8erw8hke h patrida mas....twra mas fainetai exeytelistiko e??? twra pu exume to tutu mas, to home theater kai to pc me th flat thn o8onitsa pu kairos gia kana ntu kai kana giurusi e???


Den simenei epeidei kapoioi pektes peksane ligo stn Paok kai dethikane  (opos Frantzeskos), prepei na simvenei auto me olous.
dekaetia 70 oloi osoi fteiaxan to kolosso tu paok kai twra eimaste perhfanoi na fwnaxume PAOK, HTAN OLOI PAOKTZHDES, oxi san ton frantzesko alla 1000 fores pio pa8iasmenoi....GENITSARUS EMEIS DEN 8ELUME STHN OMADA MAS...OPWS KAPOTE DEN 8ELAN KAI APAGOREVAN THN EISODO SE GENITSARUS PU EPANAPATRIZONTAN METANIWMENOI SE POLLA XWRIA THS MAKEDONIAS

Kai o Bajevic pektes yia thn omada tou pernei. Tha htan mounopano ama htan se allh omada kai eperne pektes apo thn Aek, yiati einai Aektzhs.
mhpws 8ymasai to skhniko tu vatraxu otan efyge gia gavro apo aek....apo thn polyagaphmenh tu aek peire 3 paixtures....xwria ta lefta pu tsepwse....OPOTE KARAMUNOPANAS, kanei den kanei th duleia tu

Kai yia na min pareksigitho, yiati einai poli eukolo, den leo oti oloi autoi pou efigan einai agioi alla min asxoliste allo mazi tous. Asxolithite otan tha erthoun ston NAO.
kala gia ayto na eisai siguros...ekei na deis giurusi kai ntu!!!

Kai sthnAgglia den exoun alla gemata ta gipeda. Kai den milao Premier league mono alla kai Second division. Gama etniki dikia mas.
ela edw kai sta dika mu twra...na xereis oti oi agnoi opadoi twn omadwn ths agglias einai epi to pleiston anergoi h xamhlomis8oi...ARA kai ektos ghpedu....twra to pws gemizei to ghpedo einai allh istoria (p.x. o typas pu pernei axiosevasto mis8o 8a parei mazi tu kai ta ypoloipa 3-4 melh ths oikogeneias tu...)...kai otan milame gia ektos ghpedu milame GIA THN APENANTI APO TO GHPEDO MPYRARIA H OPOIA KLEIDWNETAI (me ta typakia ayta mesa) KAI SFRAGIZETAI APO THN ASTYNOMIA 2 WRES PRIN THN ENARXH TU AGWNA KAI 3 WRES META TH LHXH TU!!!kaneis den mpainei kaneis den vgainei....etsi tulaxiston exw dei egw sto maine road (1923-2003) kai sto goodison park...ase loipon ta ths agglias kai thn olh katastash meta thn Thatcher epoxh...tote dld pu o vandalismos sta ghpeda den EXALIFTHKE, apla metafer8hke sta paraskevosavvatiatika bar/club/mpyraries kai sthn anypswsh tu posostu ston alkoolismo apo tis ilikies 14 etwn...stis ilikies xerola mu tis opoies edw oloi dulevun ALLA DEN EXUN GKAFRA NA AGORASUN 30 LIRES EISHTHRIO gia na dun thn agaphmenh tus omada...GIA ATOMA TA OPOIA TA KALA TUS RUXA EINAI H FANELA THS OMADAS TUS PRO DEKAETIAS kai oxi h fanela ths kainurias season pu pwleitai 50 lires 3 mhnes prin kan fore8ei apo thn idia thn omada...etsi opws epitasei o kainurios kwdikas TU EXEVRWPAISMENU PODOSFAIRU...

ALLA epeidh gnwrizw tis apopseis su gia exevrwpaistikes kai xerw gw katastaseis den synexisw....gia sena metran mono oi ari8moi twn eishthriwn, oi katataxeis kai ta tropaia twn omadwn kai ta posa sta symvolaia...



MAKARI OSOI EXUN DIAFORETIKES APOPSEIS NA TIS EKFERUN...me kalypse o pavlos me ena im to opoio an kai eprepe na to eixe steilei kana 3mhno prin, me kalypse gia ola osa EXTREME EXW AKUSEI APO TO STOMA TU (keyboard tu!!!)...oxi oti symfwnw me osa leei, apla twra pia einai emperistatwmenes apospeis kai oxi FWTOVOLIDES me proswpiko ofelos...

kaneis den prospa8ei na epivalei ston allo to ti 8a pei, to ti 8a skeftei....ayta einai katastaseis pu tis zun alloi (kane kammia volta sta site gavrwn kai rulhdwn na deis pws svhnonte topics,posts....ekei pu "aytoi pu erxonte gia plaka sth tumpa opote 8ellun" pernun grammh apo dioikhseis, symvulia syndesmwn-fataulhdwn opws allwste epitasei o neos kanonas tu EXEVRWPAISMENU PODOSFAIRU...


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TO PODOSFAIRO DEN EINAI KAI UTE PROKEITAI NA GINEI GIA THN IKANOPOIHSH TWN OLIGWN 'PEINASMENWN' LEFTADWN UTE KALA8OSFAIRA UTE RUGBY, PROION PROS KATANALWSH PIZZAS KAI McDONALDS...



PAOK PANTU 8ANATOS KAI NTU
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: Maestro on July 19, 2003, 12:04:40
Sponlge
THELO TON PAOK 1o KAI OXI 4o.
Auta peri 4os kai perifanos para 1os kai roufiano einai asinartisies kai malakies.
Ama paroume protathlima den nomizo oti kaneis apo emas  tha katsei na dei ama to pirame dikea h oxi. Apla tha kseskistoume na panigirizoume kai sta arxidia mas olla ta alla. Peri adikion mporei na milane oi alloi. Autes einai kouventes 2on, 3on, ktlktl.
Olo anafereis filathlous allon omadon les kai ego tous eksimnisa h tous sigkrina me emas. Gia tous gay ennoousa, vevvea kai tous exoume yia ton poutso alla min nomizeis oti asxolountai me emas ollh thn ora. Auto leo kai ego.Prepei na papsoume na asxoloumaste me kathe malaka allhs omadas kai na endidoume stis stimenes prokliseis tous.
Gia to yourousi o sisxetismos sou asxetos kai akeros. Tora ti exei o kathenas diko tou provlima kai gia tutu kai pc ase autes tis kouventes na tis lene alloi pou sterithikan steixeiodi pragmata sthn zoi tous.
Den megaloses kai sthn katoxh....
Oso yia Agglia ezisa apo to 89-97 kai ksero ti simvenei. Pes mas tora oti ta gipeda gemizoun apo oikogeneies. Na gelaso h na klapso m'auta pou les. Kai sto finale re pagosmie, se peirazei h katastash sta gipeda tous. GEMATA, TROMERES EGATASTASEIS, PEXTARADES, EUROPAIKOI TITLOI.
Yiati ama se peirazei tote kanoun perfect sence auta pou mas les"Varate me kai as kleo"
Eisai afelis ean nomizeis oti oloi oi pektes pou perasan kai pou tha perasoun apo ton Paok niothoun ÐÁÏÊôóÜêéá san kai esena. Se allo post hmouna pio analitikos me onomata pexton pou efigan pou pisteua oti pragmatika htan ÐÁÏÊôóÜêéá.
Kai oso gia thn dekaetia tou 70 simfono alla ipirxan kai kati perierga opos to 0-5 sthbn Toumba me Panaxaiki teleutea agonistiki kai pire to protathlima o gay....EAN THIMASE!!!. Kai oi megaliteroi Paoktzhdes kanane gelles. Min ksexnas o Koudas ypegrapse ston gay alla eutixos pire xampari thn malakia pou ekane kai emeine. Tote o LAOS epekse kathoristiko rolo.
Nai kai vevea metran oi titloi yia mena... den xarikes to kipello me ton rouli mipos.
Kai vevea metrane ta eisithria yia mena yiati FYI o NAOS xorouse officially 42050 kai femize toulaxiston 45000 se europaika kai ellinika derby. Tora 32000 kathismatakia me to zori na ftasoume ta 22000 eisitiria.
Fenete oti ksereis kai exeis zeish polla apo ton PAOK ton teleuteon xronon alla mono exeis akousei yia pio pallia.
Exo mia mikrh empeiria apo pio pallia kai sigrino kai prospatho na kano point out ta kalla kai ton dio epoxon oste na sinexisoume me auta kai oxi sernontas mazi mas kathe malakia pou kaname ana kairous. Oso auta peri leftadon einai akomi mia grafiki, pseutoteenagerebellion apopsi. Oute kai ego lefta den exo alladen krazo autous pou ta xoun yiati mporei na doulepsan kai na ta vgalan. Kai min ksexnas oti tora kapoioi leftades hrthan kai sosane thn omada mas apo D ethniki.
Loipon kai auth thn antidrash sxetika me ton "exeuropaismo"
den thn katalaveno. Diladh autes oi omades einai malakes kai emeis oi eimaste oi eksipnoi.
H sou aresei na pigeneis Toumpa kai na exei misa fota h na akous oti h filoksenoumenh omada ekane ntous sta apoditiria tou Paok gia na prolavoun to aeroplano giati sta dika tous den ipirxe nero. Sou thimizei ligo UGANDA?
Kai otan tha milame yia ton LAO den milame mono yia thn 4.
Milame yia kathe ÐÁÏÊôóáêé around the globe. Kai ego pigena 4 (ampelokipous) alla to gipedo gemize kai me allous filathlous tou PAOK ligotero fanatikous. Tora autoi den pane yiati iparxei fovos epeisodeion. Pes mas oti kai auto einai oraio kai hroiko kai alles paparies. Autes oi malakies mas xantakosane. Sthn  Europi yiati stekomaste souza magka mou? Yiati 5 xronakia sthn apekso tsouksane. Auto pou prospatho na po toso kairo einai poli aplo.
Parte ena g.....eno diarkeias kai as min eiste sthn Ellada kai xariste to.
To gipedo prepei na gemizei yia na einai kolash h atmosfera alla xoris ta epeisodia pou ginontai sinexeia apo tous sinithis ypoptous. Na deite pos ola ta alla tha ftiaxoun siga siga.
Kai kati allo...mesa se olla auta as min ksexname to Basket...




ps: r c chris o tsigof sthn Larissa den epeze?
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: HOMOPAOKUS on July 19, 2003, 14:54:56
Quote from: Maestro on July 19, 2003, 12:04:40
Sponlge
THELO TON PAOK 1o KAI OXI 4o.
Auta peri 4os kai perifanos para 1os kai roufiano einai asinartisies kai malakies.
Ama paroume protathlima den nomizo oti kaneis apo emas  tha katsei na dei ama to pirame dikea h oxi. Apla tha kseskistoume na panigirizoume kai sta arxidia mas olla ta alla. Peri adikion mporei na milane oi alloi. Autes einai kouventes 2on, 3on, ktlktl.
File Maestro, mallon eisai to 0,5% poy exoyn tetoia apopsh. Den ensternizesai kati to opoio einai basiko, oysiodes 8emeliodes kai rizomeno mesa se ka8e Paoktsh. Den nomizo oti diafono MONO ego mazi soy alla kai oloi oi opadoi toy PAOK, eite einai sto forum ayto eite oxi. To syn8hma "kalytera mia koypa me thn lebentia para saranta koypes me poystia" einai to alfa kai to omega ths ideologias mas.Ayto mas diaforopoiei apo oles tis alles omades, 8a mporoysa na fero arketa paradeigmata oti ayto exei isxysei sthn istoria toy PAOK, alla nomizo oti den xreiazetai na epixeirhmatologhso gia to aytonohto. An esy to ambisbhteis ayto tote apla ...lypamai...
 
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: BIANCONERO on July 19, 2003, 15:20:13
 * Gia to mats me thn panaxaikh sthn Toumpa to 1973....kanenas pote den eipe oti htan sthmeno.H panaxaikh tote eixe megalh omada oso vlakeia kai an akougetai ayto(an thymamai kala osa exw diavasei eixe termatisei trith sto prwtathlima).To mats eixe lhksei 3-5 kai oxi 0-5 kai htan 2 agwnistikes prin to telos.Kaneis den kathgorhse(gia sthmenous toulaxiston) tous paixtes.H enstash twn Paoktzhdwn tote htan oti h gayroomada ths patras phre xrhmata apo to megalo ths afentiko(apodedeigmena) gia na rthei kai na paiksei skyliasmena sthn Toumpa.Kai xasame ena prwtathlima....
 * Gia ta alla poy les gia egkatastaseis,eishthria,diarkeias,nootropia,epeisodia panw katw oloi symfwnoun mazi sou.(an kai ayto poy leei o shpongle gia to oti oi aggloi den ksefortwthikan to xouliganismo alla apla tou kleisan thn porta isxuei)
 * ....oso gia to an tha thelame na paroume ena sthmeno prwtathlima kai an tha to panygyrizame apo to na eimaste panta 4oi? Katarxhn mpravo gia ta kotsia sou na to paradexteis enw ksereis oti den tha ginei pote.Giati yparxoyun paara poloi pou to paizoun ideologoi kai len alla twra, alla an espage o diaolos kai to allo to podari kai synebaine ayto pote ,tha katebainan stous dromous gia panygyria kai me fthnes dikaiologies sto stoma("kai oi alloi etsi den ta pairnan?").Opws allaksan tis apopseis tous oi gayroi meta thn epoxh vardinogiannh ,opws allaksan apopseis oi vazeloi meta thn epoxh goulandri/ntaifa kai tha to kanoun kai meta thn epoxh kokkali,opws ta idia elegan kai oi aektzhdes epi epoxhs melissanidi/gidopoulou.
  Ekei pou diafwnw mazi sou einai oti den tha prepe na mpeis kan s ayth th logikh.Afou mas eferes to paradeigma ths agglis s ola ta alla kai twn loipwn proodeymenwn podosfairika xwrwn tha prepe na peis kai s ayto to thema oti makari na paizontai ta protathlimata sta isia opws ekei kai oxi makari o P.A.O.K. na parei ena prwtathlima estw kai vrwmika.Ara kai esy mesa sto voyrko ths sapias ellinikhs nootropias kolumpas.Tsp....an exeis tetoia oneira gia thn omada sou mallon mikros dialekses na yposthrikseis thn lathos omada.Proswpika pantws xairomai apolyta poy kaneis den mporei na katamartyrisei tipota ston P.A.O.K. (ektos apo kati kompleksika skoulikakia) gia tis oses epityxies mas kai xairomai pou o diaolos mporei na einai koutsos alla se anaphriko karotsaki to den tha ton doume pote.............
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: shpongle4 on July 19, 2003, 16:15:18
THELO TON PAOK 1o KAI OXI 4o.
Auta peri 4os kai perifanos para 1os kai roufiano einai asinartisies kai malakies.
o PAOK prepei na einai mono prwtos....ekei einai h 8esh tu...ALLA PRWTOS 8A EINAI OTAN PREPEI NA EINAI PRWTOS...OXI OTAN TO 8ELHSUN POLITIKOI, EPIXEIRHMATIES KAI ALLA LAMOGIA...

oso gia to asynarthsies kai malakies OI 8EMELIWDEIS AXIES TU KA8E ÐÁÏÊôóÞ ti na pw....aporw me th parth su palikari mu...

Ama paroume protathlima den nomizo oti kaneis apo emas  tha katsei na dei ama to pirame dikea h oxi. Apla tha kseskistoume na panigirizoume kai sta arxidia mas olla ta alla. Peri adikion mporei na milane oi alloi. Autes einai kouventes 2on, 3on, ktlktl.
ekei, se kati tetoius typus sthrix8hke h olh politikh tu batman...as tus parw kati kai aytoi 8a panyghrizun XWRIS NA PSAXNUN TI TREXEI APO EKEI KAI PERA....ti kolpa paizonte katw apo trapezia...
kai POIOI ALLOI NA MILHSUN GIA ADIKIES REEEEE????
EEEEEEE?? pali trelitsa me pulas twra??? exume niwsei th gamwadikia sto petsi mas dekades fores mesa se mia agwnistikh periodo...twra thn niw8ume kai ektos agwnistikwn periodwn me ta tertipia twn politikwn!!!!
STA ARXIDIA MAS E??
KUVENTES TWN 2wn, 3wn AYTA PU XRONIA LEME KAI MAS TSUZUN??? KUVENTES TA OSA SFAXIMATA MESA KAI EXW APO TUMPA??? E?????kai pali aporw filaraki


Gia to yourousi o sisxetismos sou asxetos kai akeros.
o sysxetismos exei na kanei sxesh me to oti OTAN SE PATANE KAI 8ELLUN NA SE EXAFALISUN, ESY ANTIDRAS KAI DEN KOIMASE, ypne...opws tote etsi kai twra...asxetos sysxetismos h apeley8erwsh ths paokaras mas me ayth ths ellados apo ta turkalia???akeros o sysxetismos ths epanastashs tu paok thn stigmh PU PE8AINEI kai XEGYMNWNETAI????
su xerizwnun TO KORMO THS OMADAS SU kai oloi xynonte kai asxolunte me to pws ekfrasthke o aggrelos gia ton alexandridh...kai otan tu xronu ginetai oti ginetai sto stivo ths tumpas 8A FTAIEI PALI O LAOS TU PAOK kai OI S.F. tu???? E????

Tora ti exei o kathenas diko tou provlima kai gia tutu kai pc ase autes tis kouventes na tis lene alloi pou sterithikan steixeiodi pragmata sthn zoi tous.
Den megaloses kai sthn katoxh....
epeidh paei na ginei poly proswpiko to olo 8ema, steile me an gustareis ena proswpiko mynhma an 8es na ma8eis pu gennh8hka, pws megalwsa kai pws zw twra...giati katoxh einai ta panta na EINAI YPO TON ELEGXO TWN AMERIKANWN....giati katoxh einai o fakelos tu ka8enos na vrisketai se kapoio syrtari kapoiu agnwstu, o opoios exei thn dynatothta na ton 'xrhsimopoihsei' opws aytos 8ellei kai me proswpiko symferon....giati katoxh einai olh h ELLADA na vrisketai ypo thn kyriothta kai na kanei ta xugia kai ta gusta enos an8rwpu o opoios exei sth plath tu kathgories gia kakurghmata kai gia prodosia tu kratus!!!!
giati, TELOS TELOS, katoxh einai NA EXUN XENA SWMATA THN KYRIOTHTA KAI THN IDIOKTHSIA THS OMADAS MAS
isws ola ayta (o polemos dhladh kai h  katoxh 'prswpikwn-pnevmatikwn' dedomenwn) na mhn exun thn idia varythta gia sena, ALLA EMENA AYTH TH STIGMH TO IDIO ME PONANE kai den me afhnun na xarw...ektos kai an pali asxeta kai akera ola...e?

Oso yia Agglia ezisa apo to 89-97 kai ksero ti simvenei. Pes mas tora oti ta gipeda gemizoun apo oikogeneies. Na gelaso h na klapso m'auta pou les.
vasika klapse giati 8 xronia (me ayto pu me les) PERASES KAI DEN AGGIXES!!!kai eidika gia ayta ta xronia, sta opoia to 'sprwximo' ths (OIKONOMIKA ANETHS xanatonizw)oikogeneias pros to ghpedo eftase sto apokoryfwma tu...tote pu oles oi vasilikes synh8eies (galazoaimates parastaseis sta 8eatra kai kynhgia alepudwn me 400 skylia) kai ta vasilika paixnidia (snooker, bingo, cricket, golf) PARHKMASAN mias kai to kratos anoixe diodus se a8lhmata pio 'laika' opws to podosfairo...tote pu oi prosfores se eishtrhia gia FAMILIES htan se exeftelistikes times (gia oikonomika evarestes oikogeneis lew kai pali)....TOTE pu to kratos edwse protaireothta sto na mazepsei to kosmo pali pisw (meta ta aisxh tu 80) kai dhmiurgh8hse TH PREMIER LEAGUE (PREMIER: first in importance)!!!

Kai sto finale re pagosmie, se peirazei h katastash sta gipeda tous. GEMATA, TROMERES EGATASTASEIS, PEXTARADES, EUROPAIKOI TITLOI.
fysika kai den me peirazei...alla stenomyale evrwpaisth, me peirazei (opws kai tus IDIUS PEIRAZEI, na eisai siguros gia ayto)
- TO OTI 110 LEPTA PREPEI (opws kai gia ayto to PREPEI na eisai siguros, mias kai den exun allh epilogh) NA KA8ONTE STA KAREKLAKIA, na mhn panyghrizun me syn8hmata omorfa, na mhn xorevun kai genika na katapiezonte na dun enan agnwa opws 8ellun akpoio alloi exontas plhrwsei to eishthrio me to mis8o miamishs hmeras...
- NA EXANTLUNTE TA EISHTHRIA SE ATOMA PU APLA EXUN TA GKAFRA KAI TIPOTA PARAPANW AFHNWNTAS AP'EXW AN8RWPUS PU KA8E ANAPNOH TUS EINAI SYSXETISMENH ME TO ONOMA KAI THN ISTORIA THS OMADAS TUS,...
- NA EXUN KURASTEI PLEON NA VRUNE ENAN HGETH PAIXTARA PU NA KANUN EIDWLO (oloi oi laoi exun aytoi thn anaggh kai einai anapofekto) MIAS KAI TA PAXYLA SYMVOLAIA, TA MARKETING (me ili8ies dhlwseis-diafhmiseis sth nea omada kapoias metagrafhs na gremizei oti exei xtistei mesa sth kardia ka8e agnu fila8lu)
- EVRWPAIKUS TITLUS??? PWS??? TI??? AXaXAxaXAxaXAxa....TO SYSTHMA PU LEITURGEI 7 XRONIA TWRA KAI PU FAINETAI NA YPOSTHRIZEIS, KATAFEREI NA METATREPSEI TO CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, TH MEGALYTERH DIASYLLOGIKH EKDHLWSH, SE ENA 'AGWNA' XRHMATWN...ta teleytaia 6 xronia to pairnei ANA MIA XRONIA h omada NTROPH GIA TA IDEWDH TU PODOSFAIRU...ayth h opoia kai  GEMATO GHPEDO EXEI, TROMERES EGATASTASEIS, PEXTARADES, EUROPAIKOI TITLOI ALLA PU NTREPONTE OI IDIOI OPADOI THS NA DHLWSUN OTI EINAI REAL...mias kai AYTO PU EXUN MONO REAL den einai...
tespa....ti se lew twra...

Yiati ama se peirazei tote kanoun perfect sence auta pou mas les"Varate me kai as kleo"
se ayto gia xwse mia kalyterh xhga!!!
den paei to myalo mu se ayto pu 8es na peis kai xefevgei se alla!!!

Eisai afelis ean nomizeis oti oloi oi pektes pou perasan kai pou tha perasoun apo ton Paok niothoun ÐÁÏÊôóÜêéá san kai esena.
symfwnw me ayto pu les...KAI FYSIKA DEN 8ELLW OI PAIXTES NA EINAI KAI NA NIW8UN ÐÁÏÊôóÜêéá OPWS NIW8W KAI EGW!!!!
APAITW NA EINAI KAI NA NIW8UN PERISSOTERO PAOK APO MENA KAI APO TO KA8ENA MAS, MIAS KAI AYTOI PLHRWNONTE, ENW EMEIS PLHRWNUME...
kai epitelus kollaxe me to xrhma...plhrwnonte oxi mono me ftale alla kai me doxa kai me times kai me ysterofhmia....akoma oloi 8ymunte onomata podosfairistwn apo to 70 pu apla kai mono paixan se kapoia omada kai tpt allo!!!


Nai kai vevea metran oi titloi yia mena... den xarikes to kipello me ton rouli mipos.
petagesai apo prwta8lhmata pu den se noiazei pws 8a ta pareis se kypella pu ta exei shkwsei monos tu o laos tu paok, KAI DEN LEEI!!! e?? leei???

Kai vevea metrane ta eisithria yia mena yiati FYI o NAOS xorouse officially 42050 kai femize toulaxiston 45000 se europaika kai ellinika derby. Tora 32000 kathismatakia me to zori na ftasoume ta 22000 eisitiria.
petagesai apo ghpedikes eggatastaseis me kosmo kalo kai kustumarismeno mesa, sthn megalyterh apotyxia tu SYXRONU PODOSFAIRU....THN APOMAKRYNSH TU FILA8LU APO THN EPAFH TU ME TO TSIMENTO KAI THN EXIKOIWSH TU ME TO AFROLEX, ME TO KAREKLAKI KAI STO FINALE ME TH POLY8RONA KAI TO KANAPE....
ute ayto leei...e?? e, leei??

Oso auta peri leftadon einai akomi mia grafiki, pseutoteenagerebellion apopsi. Oute kai ego lefta den exo alladen krazo autous pou ta xoun yiati mporei na doulepsan kai na ta vgalan.
prwta apo ola eyxaristw gia to koplimento peri ths ilikias mu (teenager!!!)
deyteron milame gia podosfairikes arxes kai oikonmika mega8hria sthn evrwph....kai esy me les oti 'mporei kai na dulepsan kai na ta evgalan"???axAxaXAxa....wraios....nai dulepsan....esena kai emena....

Kai min ksexnas oti tora kapoioi leftades hrthan kai sosane thn omada mas apo D ethniki.
prwta apo ola LEFTADES 8A PAIRNAN THN OMADA MIAS KAI OPWS TA EXEI KANEI TO SYSTHMA PU YPOSTHRIZEIS den yparxei xwros gia (ean ton 8ymasai!!) PANTELAKHDES (an8rwpus pu dulevan me xamhla budget) PLEON STO PODOSFAIRO....
kai deyteron TI IR8AN KAI KANAN???? SWSANE TO PAOK!!!!
VREEEEEEEEEE UUUUUUUUUUUSTTTTTT, pu egine kai h tsampa diafhmhsh kai to tsampe investment (ena pragma to opoio axizei na to agoraseis GIATI exei tis dynatothtes na einai EPIKERDES kai xrhsimo gia ka8e xrhsh sto mellon!!!) eginan kai lytrwtes....r aiii na pume twra mh me treleneis allo!!!! exun akoma polla na apodeixun gia na ginun swthres mesa mas....ase ta exwfylla ths ka8e kwlofylladas gia allus "teenagers"


Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: shpongle4 on July 19, 2003, 16:15:34
H sou aresei na pigeneis Toumpa kai na exei misa fota h na akous oti h filoksenoumenh omada ekane ntous sta apoditiria tou Paok gia na prolavoun to aeroplano giati sta dika tous den ipirxe nero.
gia ola ayta pu grafeis FTAIEI h dioikhsh (prwhn, nyn xerw kai egw ute aytoi den xerun ti einai o batman pleon)....opote einai asxeta na ta grafeis kai emmesws na kathgoreis to lao tu paok kai na ton les oti gustarei kai olas na ta vlepei etsi!!!!
oxi adelfe, DEN GUSTARW...oi epoxes pu gustara na vlepw skhnika katalhpsewn me pontikia gyrw mu EXUN dystyxws h eytyxws pro pollu perasei....aku ekei pontikia sto NAO!!! aisxos, ahdia....alla ayto ti sxesh exei me ton EXEVRWPAISMO SU????

Kai otan tha milame yia ton LAO den milame mono yia thn 4.
Milame yia kathe ÐÁÏÊôóáêé around the globe. Kai ego pigena 4 (ampelokipous) alla to gipedo gemize kai me allous filathlous tou PAOK ligotero fanatikous. Tora autoi den pane yiati iparxei fovos epeisodeion. Pes mas oti kai auto einai oraio kai hroiko kai alles paparies. Autes oi malakies mas xantakosane. Sthn  Europi yiati stekomaste souza magka mou? Yiati 5 xronakia sthn apekso tsouksane. Auto pou prospatho na po toso kairo einai poli aplo.
otan anarwth8eis gaiti ginonte ta epeisodia....otan dld 8a valeis to myaludaki su na dulepsei swsta 8A KRINEIS KALYTERA ta hrwika kai tis paparies pu lew....
an kai thn apanthsh thn dineis monos su me tus evrwpaikus mas agwnes alla mallon den ftanei to myallo su na dwsei oloklhrwmenh apanthsh...
8A KANEIS EPEISODIA KAI GIURUSIA KAI NTU OTAN DEIS OTI SE SFAZUN me to yalovamvaka....sth tessara ths pragas ti na katseis na kaneis epeisodia...an kai polloi apo tus paixtes htan gia sutia....
kai mias kai milhses kai gia lao sth praga adelfe ir8an oi paixtes ths allhs omadas kai mas xeirokrothsan kai tus xeirokrothsame gia polla lepta tu xronu...exume apodeixei polles fores to poso LAOS eimaste (real basket pro 8etias)...esy katse kai meine sthn ili8ia pleon dikaiologia twn MME peri fovu orismenwn gia (dikaiologhmena) epeisodia!!!
doxa to 8eo yparxun 8eatra kai megara musikhs pu mporun na su exasfalisun ths akindynh psyxagwgias su, an telika fovunte toso poly!!!




Parte ena g.....eno diarkeias kai as min eiste sthn Ellada kai xariste to.
To gipedo prepei na gemizei yia na einai kolash h atmosfera alla xoris ta epeisodia pou ginontai sinexeia apo tous sinithis ypoptous. Na deite pos ola ta alla tha ftiaxoun siga siga.
Kai kati allo...mesa se olla auta as min ksexname to Basket...
KAI EPITELUS KAPOIES SWSTES KUVENTES PU AKUW APO SENA....synexizw na aporw dervisi mu me sena...
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: tiore on July 19, 2003, 17:58:16
opws ehei pei kai kapios allos ...aderfe spongle pragmatika otan grafeis  kourazete o allos sthn skepsi kai mono na sou apantisei ;D ;D ;D

den paizesai aderfe...

genika, simfwnw mazi sou kai nomizw oti oi perisoteroi simfwnoume...
o maestro ehei alles apopseis... teliws diaforetikes apo aytes tou paradosiakou paoktsi kai ayto den einai kako ...to kako einai na nomizei oti oloi simfwnoun i prepei na simfwnoun me aytes.

vevaia maestro sto den einai kako afairw ayta pou les peri adikiwn kai prwtathlimatwn sthn poustia...

ama einai na skefetse etsi file malon lathos omada dialexes mikros i sou dialexan.... paok simainei agwnas enantia se kathe morfis katestimeno, enantia sthn adikia kai sthn exousia...kai an se esena ayta fenontai katahwniasmenes  anisihies kai exarseis katapiesmenwn efivwn gia emas einai enas tropos na vgaloume ton indiano pou kryvete mesa mas kai yparxei pragmatika stis psihes mas...
asheta an ehoume pathsei ta 20 ta 30 ta 40 i ta 50... kai vale


Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: Maestro on July 19, 2003, 22:36:37
Magkes poios sas eipe oti thelo protathlima me poustia?
Apla anafero oti oooooles autes tis skepseis pou exoume tora peri "katharon" protathlimaton tha ksexastoun amesos otan tha paroume emeis ena. Min me trelanete tora kai mou pite oti An, kai leo An, mas eunoisoun kapou, sto telos tha poume... nai ksereis den to pirame dikea.
Kai vevea exoume faei tis poutanas tis adikies kai ta sfaximata alla yia peste mou fetos tooooso poli mas adikisane kai termatisame 12 vathmous piso apo thn aek?
To vasiko mou provlima einai oti den gemizei to gipedo kai nomizo akradanta einai logo tou fovou ton epeisodeion.
Vevea mporei na mou peite oti eimastan protoi sto MO eisitirion (den metrane ta ton kekleismenon thiron), alla eimastan protoi me 9800 peripou. Kai auto yia mena einai kseftila otan kseroume oti mono sthn thessaloniki to 60% kai vale einai ÐÁÏÊôóÜêéá.

"8A KANEIS EPEISODIA KAI GIURUSIA KAI NTU OTAN DEIS OTI SE SFAZUN"
Nai to eida me thn Paris SG. Poli mas sfaksan....Gamisame thn omada yiati den peksane kala oi pektes mas. Kai oxi mono auth thn omada alla kai ton epomenon xronon.
 Kai yia na kleinoume authn thn kouventoula nomizo pos oloi sas tha thelate na dite thn PAOKARA psila sthn Europh.
Kai yia na ftaseis psila prepei na doulepseis sosta kai methodika polla xronnia kai na apoktiseis kiros san omada oste na edreotheis san megali omada. Me tsampoukalikia kai epeisodeia ksexaste to. Ean thelete na eiste romantikoi kai lete oti to europaiko podosfero exei katantisei geleio logo eisvolis tou xrimatos -les kai den ginotane auto pallia, analogika panta-tote den tha prepei na thelete ton PAOK oute sthn A ethniki, afiste ton na pesei D yiati ekei ta pragmata einai pio "AGNA". Kai ego tha thelo na pame sta palia kala ideodh xronnia alla yia na allaksoume emeis authn thn eikona prepei na doulepsoume ek ton eso. Nai mas kseroun sthn Europh san filathlous, alla mas kseroun ki olas apo thn omada BASKET h opoia diprepse europaika. H omada kai oi epitixies ths tha mas kanoun pio gnostous sthn Europh. Kai otan leo omada ennoo pextes filathlous dioikisi. Epitixies kai apo tous 3. Opos eipes spongle, epitixia htan yia tous filathlous mas sthn PRAGUE na stathoun sto ipsos tous kai na min paroune sta sutia tous pextes mas. Tetoia thelo palmo trelo toumba gemath kerkides san me thn soso, aindracht, napoli FISIKA SEVILLI ktlktl poreies otan xreiazete na voithisoume kai na agnoisoume ta mounopana pou mas prokaloun...eidika MESA sto gipedo.

Kai opos eipa pragmatika na doulepsoume ek ton eso me proto melima na figei o bat.


ps. Yia to varate me kai as kleo ennousa thn mizeria pou mas dernei kathe xronnia kai anti na katharisoume ta yialia mas kai na koitaksoume mprosta kai kathara mas rixnoun staxth sta matia kai mia klapsourizomaste mia psilopanigirizoume, analoga me ta gousta tous.
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: shpongle4 on July 19, 2003, 23:05:26
adelfe maestro xefygame kai oi dyo ligaki twn oriwn....allwste exume tosa polla na skeftume san paoktzhdes aytes ti stigmes pu 8olwnume eykola....OPOTE 8EWREITE LHXAN oti eirwniko kai oti parapanw efyge apo merus mu.....


par'ola ayta 8A DIAFWNHSW PALI me to
Gamisame thn omada yiati den peksane kala oi pektes mas
enoxos KAI gia ayta ta epeisodia einai O 8WMAS VULINOS kai oi anandres tote kinhseis tu enantion ths omadas mas kai twn syndesmwn....

8a 8ymaste oloi me posoi xara kopanusan oi (prwtoemfanizomenoi) matatzhdes ta paokakia anexairetws hlikias kai fyllu sthn 7.....mia terastia seira apo panw mexri katw kai VARA oso krataei h psyxh su....me tis symfwnes entoles tu proedru ths omadas kai tu kratus....
ARA PALI O KOSMOS EFTAIGE PU THN OMADA TH XEPULAGE KAI TH NTROPIAZE SE ELLADA KAI EVRWPH AYTOS O SATYROS???

Oso gia ayton ton romantismo, NAI ADELFE eimai kai polloi apo emas 8a eimaste romantikoi giati oi sxesh mas me to paok einai sxesh pa8us....

kai fysika ginotan palia alla oxi kai etsi r adelfe!!! eipame na kanume syggriseis...esy mono eipes oti exeis zhsei kai tis 2 epoxes kai mporeis na tis syggrineis etsi aneta....PES MU LOIPON POTE OI MISOI PAIXTES MIAS OMADAS EIXAN KANEI PROSFYGH APO TON IANUARIO KAI HTAN SIGUROI OTI 8A FYGUN TON ERXOMENO MAIO???? kai 8a fygun na pane oxi pu8ena kalytera (kapu evrwph xerw gw) alla sthn aek kai ston mishto ex8ro mas!!!!


ton PAOK ton 8elume pshla...ekei einai h fysikh tu 8esh....gia ayto exei kai ta ftera gia na petaei pshla....
twra ayta gia th D' entaxei....arntanatsidika kai prezoporulika akugonte...
kai kati akoma...prepei na xereis oti sthn ellada oso xamhlotera oi e8nikes TOSO PIO POLY VRWMA....exw asxolh8ei kai me th topikh mu omada (allote B' kai twra erasitexniko kai xerw arketa pragmata)......oso pio pshla toso pio AGNA giati eytyxws yparxEI (un omades opws) o PAOK!!!


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Nai mas kseroun sthn Europh san filathlous, alla mas kseroun ki olas apo thn omada BASKET h opoia diprepse europaika.

E TWRA PALI TA XALAS....ema einai dynaton na kanume sovarh syzhthsh kai na meles oti mas xerei h evrwph apo ena corac kai ena kypelluxwn, pu?? sto mpasket???
kai ligo pio panw me milas gia agllies kai istories???

den kollane r adelfe...syggnwmh ki'olas....


TRALALALALA
MPATATUDH PUSTARA
PANE PARE
TA SKYLIA SU
KAI XANA STO PEIRAIA!!!
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: Maestro on July 19, 2003, 23:17:11
Nai ksefigame , sorry kai apo merous mou.
Yia to mats me PSG den thelo oute kan na to thimame yiati efaga to perisotero ksilo pou exo faei pote sthn zoi mou. Kai den asteieuome. Mesa sthn eisodo ths 4.
To peristatiko pou aneferes egine sta kagela metaksi 4 kai 4a.
Anyway,
kalimera sas



Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: HOMOPAOKUS on July 20, 2003, 03:17:36



Quote from: Maestro on July 19, 2003, 22:36:37
Magkes poios sas eipe oti thelo protathlima me poustia?

dhladh otan eipes:
THELO TON PAOK 1o KAI OXI 4o.
Auta peri 4os kai perifanos para 1os kai roufiano einai asinartisies kai malakies?
 ...ti ennooyses?Ego ksanadiabasa to post soy kai odhgoymai PALI sto idio symperasma

Apla anafero oti oooooles autes tis skepseis pou exoume tora peri "katharon" protathlimaton tha ksexastoun amesos otan tha paroume emeis ena. Min me trelanete tora kai mou pite oti An, kai leo An, mas eunoisoun kapou, sto telos tha poume... nai ksereis den to pirame dikea.

Eeee, den nomizo oti isxyei ayto, nomizo oti bgazeis ay8aireto symperasma. Epeidh den exei symbei os tora kati tetoio, as kanoyme mia ypo8esh ergasias: Paizei teleytaia agonistikh prota8lhmatos PAOK-PANIONIOS. O nikhths kerdizei to prota8lhma. Dinetai ston PAOK ena petsino penalty sto 90. Pisteyeis oti o kosmos 8a to 8elei?Ego amfiballo.Pisteuo oti 8a fonazei ston paixth na to xasei. 8a moy peis giati dialeksa Panionio sto paradeigma kai oxi p.x ton osfp? Giati PARAKALAO  na moy tyxei ayto to senario, NA AKSIZEI PRAGMATIKA TON TITLO O OSFP KAI GO NA TOY TON KLEPSO ME ADIKIA, GIA NA KATALABEI TI MOY EXEI KLEPSI AYTOS TOSA XRONIA. NAI ME OSFP 8A TO H8ELA AYTO TO SENARIO GIA E-K-D-I-K-H-S-H. Omos de nomizo oti kapoia tetoia periptosh eixes sto mylao soy otan aneferes ta osa aneferes. .

Kai vevea exoume faei tis poutanas tis adikies kai ta sfaximata alla yia peste mou fetos tooooso poli mas adikisane kai termatisame 12 vathmous piso apo thn aek?
Gnomh moy:DEN MAS ADIKHSAN FOBERA FETOS.Alla omos otan xreiasthke ebalan to xeraki toys.An xreiazotan na to baloyn ki allo 8a to ekanan. Dystyxos omos monoi mas bgalame ta matia mas kai den xreiasthke na to kanoyn aytoi. 8elo omos san ena paradeigma na 8ymiso to match kypelloy me osfp, opoy me to geloio penalty fanhke h pro8esh toy Tsaggarakh na yphrethsei ta afentika toy. Eytyxos gia mas omos kataferame kai toys liosame. Nai, fetos tosoys ba8moys pisteyo oti aksizame, tosoys phrame (symfona me thn mpalla poy paiksame). Oi alloi? Phran toys ba8moys poy pragmatika aksizan?Edo xoraei syzhthsh toso gia fetos alla kai gia tis prohgoymens xronies.
To vasiko mou provlima einai oti den gemizei to gipedo kai nomizo akradanta einai logo tou fovou ton epeisodeion.
Ego nomizo oti oi apomakrynsh ton  opadon toy PAOK eina poly syn8eto problhma.Den yparxei mono mia aitia alla ena synolo aition. Mellontika 8a anoiksoyme kai ena topic gi ayto. Syntoma pantos soy apanto pos an o logos poy den phgainoyn oi PAOKtshdes sto ghpedo einai h bia, tote pos ekshgeis oti:
a) se hsyxa alla krisima match (px Akrathtos) poy apokleiontan ek prooimioy ta epeisodia o kosmos eleipe?
b)An eksaireseis ta episodia fetos poy mas stoixisan kai polles agonistikes timorias, ta prohgoymena xronia eimastan poly "hsyxoi".Omos h poreia ton eishthrion ta teleytaia xronia einai  ptotikh.Pos to ekshgeis ayto?
c)thn dekaetia toy 80 poy kaname polly perissotera "kafrilikia" o kosmos giati den enoxloyntan kai gemize to ghpedo?
Symperasma diko moy loipon : DEN einai h bia o (monos) logos poy adeiazei h Toympa ta teleytaia xronia.  
Vevea mporei na mou peite oti eimastan protoi sto MO eisitirion (den metrane ta ton kekleismenon thiron), alla eimastan protoi me 9800 peripou. Kai auto yia mena einai kseftila otan kseroume oti mono sthn thessaloniki to 60% kai vale einai ÐÁÏÊôóÜêéá.

"8A KANEIS EPEISODIA KAI GIURUSIA KAI NTU OTAN DEIS OTI SE SFAZUN"
Nai to eida me thn Paris SG.Poli mas sfaksan....Gamisame thn omada yiati den peksane kala oi pektes mas. Kai oxi mono auth thn omada alla kai ton epomenon xronon
Ta episodia me PSG epishs xreiazontai idiaiterhs analyshs. Alloi lene oti htan kinhma oloy toy laoy enantion Boylinoy, esy les oti htan askopa (edo symfonoyme kapos) alla den akoysa pote moy ego kanena na milaei gia sfagh. 8eleis kai th gnomh moy gia thn bia genikotera? eimai enantion ths bias ALLA merikes fores xreiazetai opote tote eimai YPER. 8elo omos h bia na einai dikaih, eksypnh kai epilektikh. P.x oxi na kobei boltes kapoios ston agonistiko xoro kai na petaei petra ston Karailiopoylo (ton 8ymaste?) thn ora poy ektelei plagio. Alla enan poysth "Tsaggarakh, Kasnaferh klp" den mporoyn na toy thn sthsoyne sto aerodromio p.x ? ? ? Na doyme meta an 8a ksanakanei heiroyrgeio, toylaxiston mesa sto spiti mas...Ayto den einai bia, einai AYTOAMYNA.

 Kai yia na kleinoume authn thn kouventoula nomizo pos oloi sas tha thelate na dite thn PAOKARA psila sthn Europh.
Kai yia na ftaseis psila prepei na doulepseis sosta kai methodika polla xronnia kai na apoktiseis kiros san omada oste na edreotheis san megali omada. Me tsampoukalikia kai epeisodeia ksexaste to.
Dystxos sthn Ellada gia na se ypologisoyn merikes fores xreiazetai, opos eipa kai parapano. Fysika gia Eyroph den to stzhtao kan, alla ekei leipoyn kai oi aities.
Ean thelete na eiste romantikoi kai lete oti to europaiko podosfero exei katantisei geleio logo eisvolis tou xrimatos -les kai den ginotane auto pallia, analogika panta-tote den tha prepei na thelete ton PAOK oute sthn A ethniki, afiste ton na pesei D yiati ekei ta pragmata einai pio "AGNA".
Kai ego tha thelo na pame sta palia kala ideodh xronnia alla yia na allaksoume emeis authn thn eikona prepei na doulepsoume ek ton eso. Nai mas kseroun sthn Europh san filathlous, alla mas kseroun ki olas apo thn omada BASKET h opoia diprepse europaika.
POS EIPATE???To basket  sthn Eyroph einai se dhmotikothta piso apo to podosfairo, piso apo to volley piso apo to golf(!) kai apo to handball. H eyroph exei kammia sarantaria xores. Apo aytes oi xores poy exoyn basketikh dynamh sthn epoxh mas einai Ellada, Italia, Ispania, h teos Gioygkoslabia kai h teos USSR. Ante na ksexasa kai kammia akoma. POIO BASKET RE SY?Tora genikotera gia ton "ekseyropaismo" toy PAOKtsh, se allo post syntoma 8a soy po th gnomh moy kai gi ayto.
 H omada kai oi epitixies ths tha mas kanoun pio gnostous sthn Europh. Kai otan leo omada ennoo pextes filathlous dioikisi. Epitixies kai apo tous 3. Opos eipes spongle, epitixia htan yia tous filathlous mas sthn PRAGUE na stathoun sto ipsos tous kai na min paroune sta sutia tous pextes mas. Tetoia thelo palmo trelo toumba gemath kerkides san me thn soso, aindracht, napoli FISIKA SEVILLI ktlktl poreies otan xreiazete na voithisoume kai na agnoisoume ta mounopana pou mas prokaloun...eidika MESA sto gipedo.
Edo symfonoyme (epiteloys!)
Kai opos eipa pragmatika na doulepsoume ek ton eso me proto melima na figei o bat.
Kai edo symfonoyme


ps. Yia to varate me kai as kleo ennousa thn mizeria pou mas dernei kathe xronnia kai anti na katharisoume ta yialia mas kai na koitaksoume mprosta kai kathara mas rixnoun staxth sta matia kai mia klapsourizomaste mia psilopanigirizoume, analoga me ta gousta tous.

kai do soy xrosto mia apanthsh poy 8a anaferetai kai se prohgoymeno post gia katesthmeno klp kai xreiazetai arketo... melani...
Title: O laos tou Paok...Kapoia sxolia(GIA TO TWRA)
Post by: shpongle4 on July 21, 2003, 03:09:19
r c HOMOPAOKUS karasymfwnw 101% me ta osa les parapanw........ta idia skata kuvalame sto kefali mas fainetai..
 ;)

alloi mas lene romantikus, alloi kafrus, alloi mas kathgorun oti ypokinume epeisodia (p.x. o idios o G.S. P.A.O.K.), EPEISODIA PU prepei  NA GINUN gamw th trella mu ( ite logw tsaggarakh eite logw gavru sto mpasket me to kalhmera)....


EMEIS GAMW TH TRELLA MU GAMW P.A.O.K.
EITE XHMERWNEI MERA EITE XHMERWNEI NYXTA...



kai kati poly sofo...


[glow=WHITE,BLACK,2,300]AN H NYXTA AGAPUSE THN PANSELHNO TU AVGUSTU STO MISO APO OTI AGAPW EGW ESENA DIKEFALE AETE MU...
TOTE 8A EIXAME EKLEIPSH SELHNHS STH GH 12 MHNES TO XRONO, KA8E VRADY!!![/glow]
Title: Re:To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: PITBULL on July 29, 2003, 21:14:21
KARNTASIA KALHSPERA APO AGGLIA. MESA APO AYTO TO TOPIC GIA TO KATESTHMENO THS A8HNAS MOU DINETAI H EUKAIRIA NA ANAPTYXO KAPOIA EPIXEIRHMATA PROSPA8ONTAS NA APODEIXO POS TO KATESTHMENO THS A8HNAS POU BIONOUME SHMERA DEN EINAI MIA EFEYRESH TOY SHMERA ALLA YPHRXE ANEKA8EN. ME ALLA LOGIA APO TA ARXAIA XRONIA H A8HNA EINAI H POLH THS POUSTIAS.

EPIXEIRHMA 1o: AYTO POU MA8AINAME STO SXOLEIO OS O XRYSOS AIONAS TOY PERIKLH KAI OLA TA ERGA POU EGEINAN EKEINH THN EPOXH P.X. PAR8ENONAS EGEINAN ME TA XRHMATA MAGKES MOU APO TO LEGOMENO SYMMAXIKO TAMEIO THS DHLOU POU OI A8HNAIOI KOMPLEXIKOI THS EPOXHS EKEINHS TO PHRAN APO TH DHLO ME TO ETSI 8ELO KAI TO METEFERAN STH MPASTARDOUPOLH THS EPOXHS EKEINHS! SAS 8YMIZEI KATI? TA IDIA DEN KANOUN KAI TORA? OLOI EMEIS OI ELLHNES POLITES PLHRONOUME FOROUS KAI OLA TA ERGA GINONTAI STH MPASTARDOUPOLH.

EPIXEIRHMA 2o: AS MOU EXHGHSEI KAPOIOS POIA HTAN TA EPIXEIRHMATA THS METAFORAS THS PROTEYOUSAS TOY ELLHNIKOU KRATOUS APO TO NAYPLIO STH MPASTARDOUPOLH META THN APELEU8EROSH MAS APO TOYS TOYRKOYS KAI TH SYSTASH TOY ELLHNIKOU KRATOUS? NA SAS PO EGO MAGKES MOU. HTAN O YDROKEFALISMOS KAI TO KOMPLEX OLON EKEINON TON A8HNAION POLITIKANTIDON KAI LAIKON THS EPOXHS EKEINHS. OI A8HNAIOI APO EKEINA TA XRONIA 8ELHSAN NA SYGKENTROSOUN OLES TIS EXOUSIES TOYS STHN A8HNA KAI TO APOTELESMA EINAI POS AYTH H KINHSH THS METAFORAS THS PROTEYOUSAS HTAN O PROPOMPOS THS DHMIOURGIAS AYTOY TOY TERATOS POU ONOMAZOUNE A8HNA SHMERA.

EPIXEIRHMA 3o: O A8HNAIOS SHMERA MAGKES MOU EINAI TOSO KOMPLEXIKOS KAI TOSO YDROKEFALOS POU APOKALEI OLES TIS PERIOXES EKTOS A8HNON EPARXIA, ENAS OROS POU DHLONEI YPOTELEIA KAI YPOTAGH AFOY PROERXETAI APO TO YPO KAI TO ARXH DHLADH BRISKOMAI YPO THN EXOUSIA KAPOIOY!TOSH TASH GIA EXOUSIA KAI TOSO KOMPLEX KATOTEROTHTAS (KOMPLEX KATOTEROTHTAS SHMAINEI OTI 8ELO H PROSPA8O NA EIMAI PANTA PANO APO KAPOION KAI OXI KATOTEROS OPOS KAPOIOI NOMIZOUN) EXOYN OI A8HNAIOI.

8A EPANEL8O MAGKES MOU ME PERISSOTERA EPIXEIRHMATA MIA ALLH FORA AFOU PROTA TO PSAXO TO 8EMA LIGO AKOMA. MEXRI TOTE:

PAOK OLEO PAOK OLEO
MES TH POUTANA THN AGGLIA 8A TO LEO...
Title: Re:To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: Conan4 on July 31, 2003, 12:55:48
Jeia sta lojia sou pitbull,

jia pollosti fora !!![then mporo na katalavo pos ta kataferneis na eisai kai hooligan kai dianooumenos syjxronos... ;) ]

San "jermanos" diapistosa polles fores stis episkepseis mou stin
ellada, oti oi Athinaioi exoun ena KALO sto myalo. Ti AUTOPENELA einai autoi reee? popopopo..

H plaka einai oti apo autous pou jnorizo eks Athinwn, den einai kanenas prajmatika apo Athina. Ta egkomia omos pou mou aradiazoun jia tin poli tous einai allo prama...
H athina etsi, i athina alios..kai ti na mas pei tora i thessaloniki...kali einai more...alla na more...poli mikri..kai then exei tin koultoura mias mitropolis opos tin Athina...blablabla

Ti lete re alvanompastounoblaxominares mou...sovara?
apo pote jinane oi vounokorfes ton pajouradon, tis alvanias kai tis aijiptiojamimenis pelloponisou mitropolitikes re? (jiati apo ekei katajeste kata 99,9 % "eseis" oi athinaioi).

Jia na mi me katalavoune edo mesa merikoi lathos:

Oloi ellines eimaste...olous tous ajapo apo tin kardia mou...pontious, kritikous, ipirotes, makedones k.o.k (jiati stis fleves mou apo olles tis "ratses" trexei aima). Alla pros 8eou, varethika tin penela tou kathe malaka, pou thelei son kai kala na mou to paiksei oti einai kati kaliteros apo tous allous. HMARTON! FTANEI!

Enas mono einai anoteros apo emas..o PAOK kai i istoria tou.

filika xairetismata apo Monacho

Conan

PS: Xairetismata kai ston Theio mou stin Athina (ksexases kai esi  ajoraki mou oti irthan oi dikoi sou kapote apo ta nisia tou Aijaiou me ena vraki sto kolo  :P stin xersaia ellada kai mou to paizeis kai esi...to epano grafta einai kai se sena afieromena...ANTE JEIA! ;D)

Title: Re:To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: PITBULL on July 31, 2003, 19:34:12
filaraki konan den noeitai pisteyo na eisai hooligan (me thn kalh panta ennoia) xoris na eisai psagmenos h "dianooumenos" opos esy les. Ginesai xouligkan apo th stigmh pou thn psaxneis ligo thn douleia kai diapistoneis ti 8a pei A8HNA. otan hmouna mikros oi megalyteroi mou legane O PAOK EKFRAZEI THN MAKEDONIA.  An to skefteis ligo eixan apolyto dikio. O PAOK EINAI H TELEUTAIA MORFH ANTIDRASHS SE OTI SAPIO KAI MIZERO YPARXEI STHN A8HNOKRATOUMENH ELLADA. kai ayto symbainei giati O PAOK KAI MONO O PAOK "EXEI LAO PALIKARA LEBENTH" lao ikano na ypsosei to anasthma tou apenanti ston ydrokefalismo twn a8hnaion.

Me megalh mou loiph omos file Conan diapistono oti h nea genia den exei katanohsei to megaleio kai thn ideologia twn tessaron ayton IERON GRAMMATON. Noio8o file conan merikes fores apotyxhmenos san PAOKTSHS giati den mporesa na metadoso ayth thn ideologia sthn nea genia. kai isos ayth na einai h PRAGMATIKH KAI MONH AITIA pou h Toumpa mas einai adeia, pou o laos den exei pleon thn trella pou eixe kapote pou kanoume pleon syllalhthria me ligo kosmo.
Title: Re:To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: Conan4 on August 01, 2003, 09:57:17
Karntasi,


auto pesto ksana kai ksana....

Emeis edo sto eksoteriko leme aman mpas kai doume lijo PAOK
kai merikoi vlepoun apo to parathiro tous tin Toumpa kai den pane!

Elpizo toulaxiston sta jeirateia mou na exo tin eykairia na ziso stin Thessaloniki, na vlepo ta mats me ta eggonia mou...telos panton..eidomen se kamia 35 aria xronia  :-\

filika

Conan
Title: Re:To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: Maestro on August 13, 2003, 03:08:21
Ena sxolio yia to CONTRA.GR

Kala re me karo fernoune tis efimerides ths thessalonikis sthn athina kai pernei 3 meres na tis ananeosoune?

APISTEUTOI MALAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re:To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: whitetower on August 13, 2003, 09:55:08
Maestro to eho katalavi kai ego afto. Pragmatika malakes Athinaoi.
Title: Re:To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: 8emhs on August 13, 2003, 12:38:11
Tsampa site einai to contra.gr Opote ti apaithseis exete; As kanei kai sth 8essalonikh kapoios ena tetoio site kai as ananewnei mono tis efhmerides ths B.Ellados. Den ftaiei gia ola to katesthmeno ths A8hnas....
Title: KATESTHMENO
Post by: jannis on August 15, 2003, 02:36:26
O aderfos pio prin eipe mia megali alitheia. Ftaime ki emeis me ta tragika lathi pou exoume kanei.
Toso san omada oso kai san laos...
Alla to tragikotero lathos pou kanoume einai na tavtizomaste me ton rolo tou thymatos kai na sikwnoume ta xeria psila...
sfakse me aga mou n' agiasw diladi!!!!
An diladi avtoi einai brwmikoi kai kathikia emeis giati kathomaste na mas "pidane" kai meta na leme oti ftaine avtoi...
Title: KATESTHMENO
Post by: billr on August 15, 2003, 14:32:08
Oraia re paidia arxiste na proteinete liseis gia na antimetopisoume tis pousties tous.Ego pantos egrapsa se proigoumeno topic meta to triplo xtipima poustias tou gay apenanti stin omada mas na min afinoume tous diatites kai kanenan allo na mpainei sto gipedo ti mera tou agona i na pame kamia 200 atoma stin EPO kai stin EPAE na ta kanoume limpa na poume.
Ti allo pia na kanoume? >:(
Title: KATESTHMENO
Post by: Ouzounis on August 15, 2003, 19:15:29
Na gemizoume thn Toumba!

Me lao terrastio na ypostirhzei thn omada kai na plhrwnh eisitirio...den tha tolmisei kaneis na mas kanei zimia...

O pelaths exei panta dikio..etsi;

Emeis pelates tou PAOK....kai o PAOK pelaths ths EPO....
H EPO tha prepei na apanthsh sthn kevernhsh....kai h kybernhsh exei poly anangkh apo tous PAOKTSHDES...

Yiati kai kathe kybernhsh thelei na mas exei yia pelates...

Alla ekei pou arxizoun ola einai sthn kerkida...

me 5-10 xilliades ftaime emeis pou mas gamane...

Me 20-30 xiliades ftaine autoi.....Kai tha plhrousoun...(anagkastika etsi kai allios)..

Ti boreite na kanete/oume...;;;;;;;;;;;;

Pame gypedo....parte thn mana kai thn theia..kai thn yiayia kai thn gitonhsa...thn gunaika kai ta paidia....
Na travane oikones oi kameres apo kerkida....kai na vlepoun autoi pou kybernoun G y n a i k i e s. psifous...

Ti allo:
stamathste to stoixhma......giati kai apo ekei vgazoun kerdos otan mas gamane....

Ti allo;

Steilte gramma stis doriforikes aiteries sas yia diamartiria kai kopste to Satelite yia 2-3 mhnes......

Mhn agorazete 'ksenes' efimerides....oute yia na diavazete ti sxoliasan yia ton PAOK...


..kai yparxoun polla alla pou boroume na kanoume....pou tsouzoun....


Title: KATESTHMENO
Post by: billr on August 15, 2003, 19:48:10
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Na gemizoume thn Toumba!

Me lao terrastio na ypostirhzei thn omada kai na plhrwnh eisitirio...den tha tolmisei kaneis na mas kanei zimia...

O pelaths exei panta dikio..etsi;

Emeis pelates tou PAOK....kai o PAOK pelaths ths EPO....
H EPO tha prepei na apanthsh sthn kevernhsh....kai h kybernhsh exei poly anangkh apo tous PAOKTSHDES...

Yiati kai kathe kybernhsh thelei na mas exei yia pelates...

Alla ekei pou arxizoun ola einai sthn kerkida...

me 5-10 xilliades ftaime emeis pou mas gamane...

Min xexnas omos oti apeires fores me 30 xiliarika stin toumba paizontas me ton gay mas exoun katharisei kai xoris kamia sinepeia gia diatites i xero ego epanalipsi agona ktl

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Ti allo:
stamathste to stoixhma......giati kai apo ekei vgazoun kerdos otan mas gamane....


Lefta apo to stoixima vgazei mono o kokkalis oxi EPO kai i EPAE.Kai na min exei pia esoda apo to stixima exei apoktisei tosi megali periousia apo to stixima pou sta arxidia tou.

Tetoiou eidous liseis opos boykotaz sixora me pou tha to po alla den pernane pia.Oi energeies prepei na einai drastikes.

Mas adikeitai kirioi den tha xanaginei agonas.




EPITHESI............................
Title: KATESTHMENO
Post by: Maestro on August 15, 2003, 21:12:49
Sinfono me ouzouni.
GEMISE TOUMBA, XORIS KAGELA...Fisika oxi me kathe malakia tou diethth mesa...
Tote na deis pos tremoun ta podarakia tou kathe pexth kai diethth. Thn kanei thn malakia? Am de yiati tha nomizei oti den tha ksanadei thn oikogeneia tou.
GEMATH TOUMBA SE KATHE MATS. EKEI NA DEIS POWER POU THA APOKTISOUME. KAI META NA DEIS POS EMFANIZONTAI KAI OI EPENDITES....
Title: Re:To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: BIANCONERO on August 18, 2003, 19:36:03
Ta pragmata aderfe einai apla.Ayta einai gnwsta.To thema einai ti kanoume emeis....giati sto xeri mas einai na deiksoume th dynamh mas kai na piesoume na allaksei i symperifora tous.Gia mena proswpika to thema einai ena:TELOS H ELEYTHEROTYPIA DIA PANTOS M AYTO POU EIDA! Alla to thema einai na tous to peis.Giati an den to viwsoun den leei tipota.Oyte pou tha katalayoun an 10-20-100 atoma den agorazoun thn efhmerida tous.Alla an tous to deiksoume oti eimaste dysaresthmenoi(kai an tous to deixnoume panta!) isws kati allaksei.Opote parte merika e-mail apo thn kwlofyllada(pou mexri prosfata itan i moni politiki efimerida pou diavaza) kai kante oso mporeite dynath th fwnh mas:

Γενικό (elef@enet.gr)
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Sto xeri mas einai.
MIA ZWH P.A.O.K.


Title: Re:To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: BIANCONERO on August 18, 2003, 19:40:47
Kai allo ena ths kyriakatikhe eleytherotypias pou ksexasa  :

     ke@enet.gr

Vomvardiste tous.......................
Title: Re:To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: billr on August 19, 2003, 21:08:12
Etsi opos girnousa ta kanalia stin TV epesa tin ora pou elege to Star athlitika.Eixe thema to Rouli.Mporei kapoioi na me parexigisoun gia ayta poy tha po logo tou oti vriskontai se kathimerini kontra me ta erpeta.Ego omos exo megalosei se ayto to koloniso pou legetai Rodos mesa stous gayrous kai stis vazelines kai mou einai pantelos adiaforoi oi metaxoskolikes kathos den exo niosei tin pragmatiki kontra tou paoktsi me to skouliki.Alla pros theou den tha tous ipostirixo. :21:

Elege loipon to Star oti i Epitropi edose adika to poistopoiitiko sto Rouli logo tis torinis iokonomikis katastasis kai oti den mporoume etsi na exoume isonomia sto protathlima.Kai epeidi xero oti an den to exoun idi kanei tha to kanoun sto mellon kai tha poun ta idia kai gia ton PAOK mas,tous leo loipon oti kirioi gayrovazeloxanoumodimosiografoi
kali i texniki sas na girizete boumerang tis kataggelies kai na epititheste sti Thessaloniki alla emeis den masame. :hb:
Koitaxte prota na ftiaxete to protathlima ton koloomadon sas gia na ginei epitelous olokliris tis Elladas kai oxi tou kentrou kai meta na ta rixnete sti Voreio Ellada.Milate kiolas kai gia isonomia.Karagiozides.
Ante sto dialo vradiatika. :12: >:(
Title: KATESTHMENO
Post by: ALEX on August 27, 2003, 00:23:47
@maestro

simfono me ayta pu les mono ena simpliroma na figi kai o stivos kai i kerkida na erthi konta sto xorto kai tote na deite pos tha arxizun na kafetizun ta sovrakakia  ;D
Title: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: Ouzounis on February 15, 2004, 23:02:51
kati pou diavasa sto: www.msn.com .Sta "news"..."othersports" "olympics":

"..Gianna Angelopoulos-Daskalaki, chief organizer of the Athens Games, said the Olympics will show the world that Athens is ''a very modern country.."

Ti eipe leei????

Apo pou kai os pou einai h Athina kratos??? NA GIATI GRAFONTAI TA PANO.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4262635

Opios thelei episimh selida na.
Title: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: ksts on February 17, 2004, 19:25:00
Gianna Angelopoulos-Daskalaki, chief organizer of the Athens Games, said the Olympics will show the world that Athens is ''a very modern country.''


Afta leei to arthro Ouzouni.Prosexe pou vazei o dimosiografos
ta eisagwgika(etsi den ta lene?), diladi ti leei i Daskalaki:
"a very modern country".
Ta proigoumena logia ta grafei aftos,san na
kanei mia sinthesi apo afta pou exei dei na grafontai
se efimerides ktl.Aftos exontas sto mialo tou ti lexi Athina
grafei to sxolio tis KRITIKIAS (den einai Athinaia)Daskalaki
gia tous Olympic games.
Pantws ta ipoloipa pou leei to arthro einai pio
simantika px:institute more trusted in Greece....ARMY FORCES!!!!
Title: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: Ouzounis on February 17, 2004, 22:12:35
The proseksa ta " "" " Kosta. Alla palei...asteio einai. San na to exoun parei xambari kai oi ksenoi... ;D

Yia to "Armed Forces" pou lene...
Mipos to grafoun yia na pisoun tous "ekso" oti oi agwnes tha einai asfaleis? Mono ekei paei to mualo.
Title: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: AK4 on February 20, 2004, 00:25:06
Den xero an ine to sosto topic ala ipotheto "kolai" ki edo.
Diavasate dilosis tou bastardou tou kanelopoulou ??
Ine pragmatika na trelenese! Apilise tin pae ofi na diathesi isitiria se opion endiaferete -ke di stous gay-na parakolouthisi
to metaxi tous pehnidi alios..simfona me to arthro 30 klp. klp..
tin poutsisane!!
Vre poutanas gie kanelopoule,pou isouna otan pezame sto egaleo ke i diki mas perasane ta pandina gia na boresoun na boune,osi bikan telika,sto gipedo?
S'efharisto pantos re kokaloskilo giati me apalaxes apo to dilima
pou me taleporouse teleftea.
MAVRO RE ALITI,MAVRO :12:

PAOK PANTOU KE PANTA
Title: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: Londrezos on April 25, 2004, 13:28:56
Ayto diavasa kai gelasa me thn psyxh moy: ;D ;D ;D

Φίλαθλος

Στη Μακρόνησο να βάλουνε τον τελικό. Να πάνε και οι οπαδοί εκεί και οι ομάδες, να φύγουνε τα καράβια και άστους να παίζουν μέχρι τον Οκτώβριο κάθε μέρα. Να πάρουνε από σαραντπέντε πρωταθλήματα ο καθένας να ησυχάσουνε και αυτοί και εμείς που μας τα έχουνε ζαλίσει

Αποδυτηριάκιας
Title: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: Tom_Araya on April 28, 2004, 15:46:35
X8es wra 12:30 to vrady h et-3 kai sygekrimena h ekpomph "arxeio" eixe ena reportaz sxetiko me diafores "vrwmies" sto ellhniko podosfairo. Anaferotan sygekrimena sthn ypo8esh kouda, sto 3-5 me thn panaxaikh to 1972 (nomizw), thn ypo8esh twn "louloudiwn" , thn apopeira dwrodokias tou peliou apo ton hraklh, to mparaz tou volou, to skouliki-gay 2-4 to 1974 (nomizw, einai to mats opou egine alagh o xrhstidhs), ka8ws kai thn dwrodokeia paragonta ths aek se paiktes tou panseraikou. H ekpomph ayth pragmatika aksize, eixe synenteykseis apo tous amesa emplekomenous, apopseis dhmosiografwn, apospasmata efhmeridwn tis epoxis kai alla wraia. Isws apo tis elaxistes ekpompes pou asxoli8ikan sovara me to ellhniko podosfairo, apofeygontas laikismous kai korwnes.
Title: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: ksts on July 24, 2004, 19:37:01
Ο προπονητής του Παναθηναϊκού, κλήθηκε να σχολιάσει και την μεταγραφή του Ρούντολφ Σκάτσελ: "Ακόμα δεν τον έχω δει. Το γήπεδο είναι ο καθρέπτης για όλους μας".

contra.gr

Etsi doulevoune oi megales omades...isws...
Title: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: MAKPTOL on July 31, 2004, 15:59:28
χθες ειχε την κληρωση του ΠΑΟΚ και το ματς του βαζελου....
σημερα νετ αλφα αντενα κλπ μας πρηξανε για το ματς
του παο και τις μεταγραφες του γαβρου και τιποτα για ΠΑΟΚ
και την κληρωση σαν να μην εγινε....
ΑΥΤΗΝ ΤΗΝ ΝΕΤ ΤΗΝ ΠΛΗΡΩΝΟΥΜΕ ΓΙΑ ΝΑ ΑΚΟΥΜΕ ΜΟΝΟ
ΤΑ ΝΕΑ ΤΗΣ ΑΤΤΙΚΗΣ ......ΤΙ ΝΑ ΠΩ ....
Title: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: Tom_Araya on July 31, 2004, 17:50:35
Profanws den 8a to ekane gia ton aplo logo oti oi efhmerides ths 8es/nikhs kykloforoun mono sth boreia ellada, epomenws gia na mporesoun na poulhsoun fyla asxolountai apokleistika me tis omades ths voreiou ellados, kai kyriws ton PAOK, ka8ws ayth einai h laofilesterh omada tou boreiou xwrou makran. Anti8eta h sportime kai h goal einai efhmerides pou kykloforoun se olh thn xwra kai profanws gia na poulhsoun polla fyla asxolountai kai me alles omades peran twn 3 tou pok. Omws mhn ksexnas oti ayth thn periodo den yparxei kapoio allo neo peran ths klhrwshs twn prokrimatikwn. Alla mhn leme kai oti asxolountai kai entatika me ton PAOK. Thn sezon pou perase zitima na eixan 5 fores prwto 8ema ton PAOK.
Title: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: MAKPTOL on July 31, 2004, 19:02:41
κανεις λαθος το goal εχει την αφισα και εχει την εξης πολιτικη
κανει πρωτοσελιδο τον ΠΑΟΚ στην βορεια ελλαδα και στην
νοτια βαζει αλλο πρωτοσελιδο....ενω η υλη ειναι η γνωστη
6 σελιδες παο 6 θρυνος 3 αεκ 1 ΠΑΟΚ 1 αρης....εκτος απο σημερα που ειχε ενθετο για την κληρωση....
ΔΕΣ ΣΗΜΕΡΑ ΤΟΠΡΩΤΟΣΕΛΙΔΟ ΤΟΥ GOAL ΕΔΩ ΞΕΡΕΙς ΤΙ
ΕΧΕΙ ΠΑΟΚ ΜΕ ΤΕΡΑΣΤΙΑ ΓΡΑΜΜΑΤΑ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΜΑ ΓΙΑ ΤΗΝ
ΚΛΗΡΩΣΗ......
η μονη εφημεριδα απο τις αθηναικες που εχει που και που ΠΑΝΕΛΛΗΝΙΑ πρωτοσελιδο τον ΠΑΟΚ ειναι το sportime ...
oso gia tis δικες μας εφημεριδες που δεν εχουν πρωτοσελιδα
για ομαδες τις αθηνας .....εεεεεεε ημαρτον που λεει και
ο ξεδοντιαρης εχετε 90% της δημοσιοτητας πανω σας θελετε
να σας κανουμε και πρωτοσελιδο ............ ;D
Title: Re: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: MAKPTOL on September 23, 2004, 13:35:00
........ΡΕ ΤΟ ΣΗΜΕΡΙΝΟ ΠΡΩΤΟΣΕΛΙΔΟ ΕΧΕΙ ΠΟΛΥ ΓΕΛΙΟ ΤΟΥ GOAL.....
ΤΟ ΒΛΕΠΩ ΑΠΟ ΜΑΚΡΙΑ ΜΕ ΜΕΓΑΛΑ ΚΙΤΡΙΝΑ ΓΡΑΜΜΑΤΑ ΚΑΙ ΛΕΩ ΜΠΡΑΒΟ ΠΡΩΤΟΣΕΛΙΔΟ ΓΙΑ ΤΟΝ
ΡΟΥΛΗ ....ΚΑΙ ΤΙ ΔΙΑΒΑΖΩ   ......ΟΙ ΣΟΥΠΕΡΑΔΕΣ ΛΕΕΙ ΘΑ ΣΕΒΑΣΤΟΥΝ ΤΟΝ ΡΙΒΑΛΝΤΟ.....
ΧΘΕΣ Ο ΜΠΡΑΟΥΔΑΚΗΣ ΟΛΟ ΕΛΕΓΕ ΣΕ ΚΑΤΙ ΡΟΥΛΗΔΕΣ ΠΟΥ ΠΕΡΝΑΝΕ ΤΗΛΕΦΩΝΟ ΝΑ ΣΕΒΑΣΤΟΥΝ
ΤΟ ΡΙΒΑΛΝΤΟ ΚΑΙ ΕΙΔΙΚΑ Ο ΚΟΛΤΣΙΔΑΣ...... :)
ΕΜΕΙΣ ΘΑ ΤΟΝ ΣΕΒΑΣΤΟΥΜΕ ΘΑ ΤΟΝ ΚΕΡΑΣΟΥΜΕ ΚΑΙ ΚΑΦΕΔΑΚΙ ΜΕ ΚΟΥΛΟΥΡΑΚΙ ΕΕΕ ΚΑΠΟΙΑΣ
ΗΛΙΚΙΑΣ ΕΙΝΑΙ Ο ΑΝΘΡΩΠΟΣ ΑΛΛΑ ΣΤΟ ΓΗΠΕΔΟ ΔΕΝ ΘΑ ΑΚΟΥΜΠΗΣΕΙ ΜΠΑΛΑ ΤΕΤΟΙΑ ΑΝΤΙΜΕΤΩΠΙΣΕΙ
ΠΡΕΠΕΙ ΝΑ ΕΧΕΙ............ΑΚΟΥΣΕΣ ΜΠΡΑΟΥΔΑΚΗ ΜΠΑΛΑ ΔΕΝ ΘΑ ΑΚΟΥΜΠΗΣΕΙ ......ΕΞΥΠΝΑΚΙΑ.... :)
Title: Re: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: MAKPTOL on September 23, 2004, 13:42:07
......Εμεις εννοω ο ΠΑΟΚ ...... :)....μη με περασει κανενας για κρυφοαρειανο..... ;)
αρχισα να φοβαμε διαβαζω για καταδοτες και μαλιστα "εν δυναμη" και οσο ναναι αρχιζω να κοιταω γυρω
μου για " περιεργες κινησεις".......... :-\
Title: Re: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: petrovgr on November 12, 2004, 00:36:18
Η Ελλάδα πλήρη τις προϋποθέσεις λόγω πρότερης εμπειρίας, κυρίως λόγω των Ολυμπιακών Αγώνων, χρειάζονται όμως 8 τουλάχιστον στάδια με χωρητικότητα άνω των 30 χιλιάδων θεατών. Μέχρι στιγμής υπάρχουν 7, δυο εντός του λεκανοπεδίου, δυο στην Θεσσαλονίκη και ακόμα τρία στην περιφέρεια (Πάτρα, Θεσσαλία, Κρήτη).
Μέχρι το 2012 θα πρέπει να έχουν κατασκευαστεί ακόμα δυο μεγάλα ποδοσφαιρικά γήπεδα και πιθανότατα αυτά θα αφορούν το γήπεδο του Παναθηναϊκού και της ΑΕΚ καθώς και αυτό ήταν ένα θέμα που συζητήθηκε μεταξύ των δυο ισχυρών αντρών.
Και σε αυτό το θέμα, η απάντηση του Πρωθυπουργού ήταν θετική και φυσικά οι διαδικασίες θα ξεκινήσουν πολύ νωρίτερα από το 2012.Η ανέγερση γηπέδων για τους δυο "μεγάλους" της Αθήνας είναι επιτακτική και αυτό το γνωρίζει η Πολιτεία.

ΤΟ ΕΓΚΥΡΟΤΑΤΟ ΚΟΝΤΡΑ-ΠΛΑΚΕ.GR

ΕΙΠΑΤΕ ΤΙΠΟΤΑ;;;
Title: Re: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: alexisv on November 12, 2004, 10:52:55
Για εμάς ότι και να γίνει δεν πιστεύω να αλλάξει και τίποτα. Μάλλον πάλι με την λαμαρίνα θα μείνουμε!
Title: Re: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: Suicidal on March 07, 2005, 19:57:53
Den h3era se poio topic na to balw kai edw nomizw oti einai o poio katallilos xoros.
Elpizw na yparchoun estw kai merika melh pou na pernane ta idia apo to myalo tous....

Ta pragmata exoun ws e3hs:

An pane estw kai ligo logika ta pragmata
sthn Toumpa 8a paizei o vazelos miso prwta8lima etsi?
(An OXI , tote ola ta parakatw einai axrista, to lew apo twra)


Gia tous gayrous
eimaste ta tsirakia tou Bardi , perisi malista dwsame to mats ston bazelo (enw tous gayrous tous ri3ame 10 gkol, 8hmaste?)
gia na parei to prwta8lhma , fetos bgazoun mexri kai oi palemaxoi tou gay anakoinwsh
KATA tou zwgrafou (THN DIABASATE RE PAIDIA NA TRELLA8EITE?), oti dietelese ka8ikonta filobazela -me liga logia-
giati sto finale OTI kai na graftei to ba8os ths ypo8eshs ekei ftanei , mhn leme ki oti 8eloume etsi ?
Molis 8a plisiasei o kairos gia to mats mas me tous bazelous leipon, kai AN 8a krinete s'ayto to mats to "miso prwta8lima" pou leme
H' 8a ta baloun me thn Epo Epae KKE Selete giati 8a einai timwrimenh h Toumpa kai asfalos ayto -sta matia twn gay- einai megalo pleonektima gia ton bazelo,
H' 8a arxisoun gamiete h nea dhmokratia kai ta plokamia ths sthn epo kai thn diaitisia,
H' 8a arxisoun ta : pai3te me tous bazelous me to idio misos opws kai me mas bla bla bla
(kan'te sold out kai me ton vazelo, olh thn xronia mas exoune gia flwrous kai otan einai na pai3oume me tous vazelous mas lene na kanoume tis idies rok katastaseis opws m'aytous apotoma)
kai an xasoume BEBAIA 8a exoume anoi3ei ta podia mas ston 8eio bardi kai 8a epibebaio8oun osa anafera poio panw.
ENA TO KRATOUMENO !
....giati an nikisoume ton bazelo kai 8a exei kri8ei isws ayto to "miso prwta8lima" pou leme kai pali, pame parakatw:

Gia tous bazelous
-Oust komple3ikoi, gayroi tou borra , tsirakia tou kokkali bla bla bla bla ..........
-Oute gia ton teliko CL den 8a paizate etsi .....
-TROMOKRATIA STHN ZOUGKLA THS TOUMPAS
-gamiete to pasok kai ta plokamia tou sthn epo kai thn diaitisia
-Enas API8ANOS diaititis eblepe KOKKINA ta panta....
kai 3ys'ta @@ sou ..........

KANENAS DEN PROKEITE NA ASXOLEI8EI (NAI ESAS GAMIMENA MME LEW ESAS -p.x.  :19: lew egw twra-)
me to gegonos oti o PAOK isws , mporei , leme twra , ela mwre na pernaei h wra , xavales na ginete mwre , pai3ei/paizei gia ba8mous estw gia to rimadi to uefa (kai mhn me pei kanenas oti to exoume sigouro, to 3erw)!


Kai an einai na paizei kai to aekaki gia to prwta8lima kai exoume ki ekei tipota xaza (thn idia agwnistikh me bazelos-gay paizoume  ;) )
KAI an einai na mple3oume kai me to ean bgaloume/bgalame to aekaki prwta8liti , e tote zhtw pou xestikame re magkes.....

Na me peite : "Me ti ka8ese kai asxolise re agori mou?" ,
sorry alla emena ayth h katastash ME KANEI E3W FRENWN ......
Giati ?
Giati ETSI amalachi na oume......

TELIKA RE POUSTH MOU OTI KAI NA GINEI
EMEIS OI MALAKES THS YPO8ESHS 8A BGAINOUME ?
Exoume pou exoume ta dika mas.......
Title: Re: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: bojiek on March 07, 2005, 21:33:43
Sumfwntas me ton billypoglwssio tha hthela na doume ti ginetai kai stis panw efhmerides....

Pagia taktikh ta prwtoselida na einai uper tou Paok kai na paramuthiazoun ton kosmo mas gia mega PAOK, gia mega LAO, gia mega istoria....egw den ta amfisbhtw auta allla mhpws ston bwmo ths theamatikothtas kanan thn istoria mas to prwtoselido kathe merta....

Apo thn allh ta radiofwna mas thn paizoun alliws.... ston bwmo kai pali ths thleatheashs mas mprizwnoun kai an mou epitrepetai mas paizoun upoulo polemo.......anagazoun ton lao na asxoleitai gia to pia einai h prwth omada ths polhs, pio ghpedo exei kanei ta pio polla sold out kai tetoia....apo pote re aderfia asxolhthikan PAOKTZHDES me tous anuparktous ths polhs? apo pote h omada mas sugrinetai me autous? kai omws ola auta epeidh den mas theloun enwmemous...oso den eimaste enwmenoi toso tha ginontai ta prwtoselida tous anarpasta kai emeis diabazwntas ta na doksazoume ton mega LAO..

Pote asxolithikan me goumeno? pote asxolithikan na diwksoun mpatatoudh? pote boulino? pote pantelakh kai paei legwntas....emeis ola O MEGA LAS pou omws einai dikos mas... exoun afierwsei periodika olou tou kosmou selides gia emas......

kleinwntas exoume pou exoume tous katw, ta problhmata mas pou leii kai o billypoglwsios... ta prwtoselida pou mas aresei na diabazoume apo panw mas apoteleiwnoiun

o PAOK EIMASTE EMEIS....

ADIAFORW GIATI KAI AN LENE GIATI DEN KSROUN TO PWS NIWTHOUME GIA SENA
Title: Re: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: arrwstos4 on March 08, 2005, 11:21:50
Billypoglwssie symfwnw 100% mazi sou apla o logos pou ginetai ayto einai na exoun allothi oi omades pou telika tha paroun ton poulo.
kai ta rixnoun se mas tous kai kala poulhmenous ktl...
Title: Re: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: spartian on March 08, 2005, 11:58:43
Εγώ δεν βλέπω τίποτα περίεργο σε όλα αυτά. Οι gay θα προσπαθήσουν να μας τσιτώσουν ώστε να κερδίσουμε και σε τελική να ευνοηθούν, οι βάζελοι να υποβαθμίσουν την ένταση ώστε να περάσουν εύκολα.
Το θέμα είναι εμείς τί κάνουμε. Καλώς ή κακώς το παιχνίδι με τον βάζελο ΔΕΝ έχει την ίδια ένταση όπως με τον gay.Αλλά από κει και πέρα δεν έχω καμία διάθεση να ακούω πως ανοίξαμε τα πόδια είτε γιατί τα "πήραμε" όπως μαλακωδώς θα λένε οι gay, ειτε απλά γιατί δεν παίξαμε με πάθος.
Εγώ ξέρω πως ο ΠΑΟΚ είναι ΠΑΟΚ και ειδικά σε ντέρμπυ πρέπει να μπαίνει μέσα και να τρώει σίδερα. 5 γκολ μπορούμε να ρίξουμε στον βάζελο; Να το κάνουμε! Ακόμη και αν αυτό σημαίνει πως θα πάρει πρωτάθλημα ο gay. Χέστηκα...Ας βγάλουν τα μάτια τους μόνοι τους.Εγώ θα παίξω για την Ιστορία μου...Απλά!
 
Title: Re: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: alexisv on March 08, 2005, 12:50:20
auto to topic ehi gini gia mena thema se lathos hroniki stigmi. Persi imoun sto gipedo kai fonaza "paok pexe gia ton lao sou . . . . . .".

auti tin stigmi omos pou den eho akoma honepsi tin alitia tis megaliteris poutanas niotho diaforetika. auti tin hroniki stigmi an me rotouses tha elega sta @@ kai an haso apo aek kai bazelo. i hronia etsi kai alios einai hameni. Na haso. arki na min pari protathlima auti i poutana. Kai an me apokalesoun tsiraki tou bardi? pali sta @@ mou. ne re poutanes tha po. to edosa. etsi apla epidi den goustara tin poustia sas, tin omada sas, tis manes sas, tin poli sas. tipota.

Etsi apla. Apo tin stigmi pou den paei gia protathlima o paok sta @@ mou pios to pari arki na min paei sto mpourdelo pou legete pireas.
GAMO TIS MANES SAS RE!
POTE XANA PROTATHLIMA STON PIREA KAI STA @@ MOY PIOS TO PARI.

Diabazo dio meres tora apo tis kolofilades tous pos autoi adikithikan. eleos. mas gamane kai theloun na bgoun kai apo pano. ohi re. einai o monos tropos pleon pou mporo fetos na sas kano na ponesete poutanes mias kai dikea den xerete na pernete auto pou thelete. o monos tropos na sas ekdikitho pleon einai na doso tin niki se aek kai bazelo. kai makari na hasoume. ilikrina. ohi oti apo autous den ehoume adikithi, alla se kamia periptosi oi alloi dio den singkrinonte me tin poutana tou pirea.

a re pousti mou pos ehoume katantisi. 2 meres tora kai den mporo na to honepso. na tous fao den tha hortaso.
Title: Re: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: BIANCONERO on March 08, 2005, 12:56:08
To thema einai ti tha kanoume emeis
Persy mas valan sto tripaki....APAIThSAME nikh, (ola kala ws edw), kai meta molis fagame to gkol ksespasame sthn omada , paramythiasmenoi ap ta prwtoselida tou prwtathliti kai ths dilwseis swkrati!
ENNOEITAI oti k fetos Bill tha xoume ta idia! Mhn psarwnete.....na pa na gammhthoun! KAI OI DYO! Oti kai na erthei etsi ki alliws tha ta akousoume!den yparxei logos na mpoume sto paixnidi, oute na dwsoume orkous nikhs prin to mats opws persy!

Kai sy vazele sixamenos eisai kai me sena eixame sta xronia sou ta "kala" kati diaithsioules loukoumi sthn Toumba....me to bambaki....den ksexname epoxes 80-90.
Oso gia sena gayre, ksereis giati skyliazame 23 xronia nma se kerdizoume!  Rikse kai mia matia sta teleftaia 7 xronia diaithsias sthn Toumba na deis giati yparxei h atmosfaira pou les twra. H apaithsh ths thyras7 na spasei h paradosh ths Toumbas ME KATHE TROPO , kapoio timhma tha exei, den mporei!

Symfwnw alexi oti afti th stigmh me thn psyxologikh fortish pou xw, kai kyriws m afta pou akouw meta pou pan na kanoun to aspro- mayro me tipota de thelw na dw to prwtathlima sto mpourdelolimano! An mas kerdisei o vazelos (spathenia k xwris diaithsies) maggia tou na to parei aftos. Tha lega na gamhthoun kai oi dyo k na to parei h aek alla meta ta persyna to kalokairi, k ta feteina me to 44 tous sixainomai pia eksisou!

Title: Re: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: spartian on March 08, 2005, 13:42:36
Ούτε εγώ συμφωνώ με "όρκους νίκης" και τέτοιες παπαριές. Ούτε φυσικά να ξεσπάσουμε στην ομάδα όπως πέρσυ αν χάσουμε (προσέξτε...αν χάσουμε..όχι αν δεν προσπαθήσουμε).
Απο κει και πέρα, λογικό είναι να πει κάποιος αυτή τη στιγμή " ας χάσουμε αλλά να μην πάει στον πειραιά" Αλλά ας μην ξεχνιόμαστε...δεν έχουμε τραβήξει λιγότερα από τον βάζελο.Εγώ που ξεκίνησα να βλέπω μπάλα αρχές '80, ο πρώτος από τον οποίο θυμάμαι να σφαζόμαστε είναι ο βάζελοςκαι για πολλά χρόνια (ας θυμηθούμε από τον Λίτσα , μέχρι την αποχώρηση επί βουλινού από το ΟΑΚΑ.)
Δεν είναι λιγότερο σιχαμένοι λοιπόν αυτοί...
Εγώ απλά λέω "εμείς παίζουμε για να κερδίσουμε και αν ο βάζελος είναι μαλάκας και δεν μπορεί να το πάρει, δεν θα του το δώσουμε εμείς"...
Title: Re: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: Suicidal on March 08, 2005, 14:46:58
Quote from: BillYpoglwssioS on March 07, 2005, 19:57:53
Gia tous gayrous
eimaste ta tsirakia tou Bardi , perisi malista dwsame to mats ston bazelo (enw tous gayrous tous ri3ame 10 gkol, 8hmaste?)
gia na parei to prwta8lhma , fetos bgazoun mexri kai oi palemaxoi tou gay anakoinwsh
KATA tou zwgrafou (THN DIABASATE RE PAIDIA NA TRELLA8EITE?), oti dietelese ka8ikonta filobazela -me liga logia-
giati sto finale OTI kai na graftei to ba8os ths ypo8eshs ekei ftanei , mhn leme ki oti 8eloume etsi ?
Molis 8a plisiasei o kairos gia to mats mas me tous bazelous leipon, kai AN 8a krinete s'ayto to mats to "miso prwta8lima" pou leme
H' 8a ta baloun me thn Epo Epae KKE Selete giati 8a einai timwrimenh h Toumpa kai asfalos ayto -sta matia twn gay- einai megalo pleonektima gia ton bazelo,
H' 8a arxisoun gamiete h nea dhmokratia kai ta plokamia ths sthn epo kai thn diaitisia,


XA  :lol: XA  :lol: XA  :lol: XA  :lol: XA
Pws eipate ? e ? Bre ti pa8ame.......
Den exei 24 wres pou egrapsa to parapanw quote:
Ti egine leei Billy ? Pote eipes 8a arxisoune oi gayroi? Molis 8a plisiazei to mats me bazelo?
Poso gelastikes xazouli........

Soulatsernontas leipon shmera ston eyritero internetiko xoro na dw ti skata paizete anakalypsa
ta e3hs zoumera postings : xaxaxa , akous ekei molis 8a plisiazei to mats me bazelo.... tststs.....

GIA 2 KAREKLES STHN KRHTH FAGAME 2 AGONISTIKES TIMORIA, ENO OI ZELES ME TOUS MAKEDONES POU PAIZANE 10 LEPTA PETROPOLEMO STHN EKSEDRA KAI ENAS MALISTA EXASE KAI TO MATI TOU THN GLUTOSANE ME 3,000 PROSTIMO..
FYSIKA, AFOU EMEIS FAGAME 1 AGONISTIKH GIA AUTES TIS MALAKIOULES, THA FAEI KAI MIA TIMORIA 2 AGONISTIKES O PAOK GIA TA KURIAKATIKA, OI 2 THA GINOUN 4 EPEIDH EINAI UPOTROPOS, KAI KATA SYNEPEIA THA PAIKSEI KEKLEISMENON ME TO VAZELO STHN TOUMPA KAI H ATHLITIKH DIKAIOSYNH THA DEIKSEI PALI POSO AMEROLHPTH EINAI KAI POSO KALA KANEI TO ERGO THS...PERA APO OLA AUTA, GIA POIO LOGO H DIKH MAS APOFASH VGHKE 1 EVDOMADA META APO TOU VAZELOU, KATHOS KAI GIA POIO LOGO OI 4 POU EIXANE FAEI ARGHSAN 2 EVDOMADES SXEDON NA VGOUNE APOFASH EINAI MIA ALLH ISTORIA..
KAI EIS ALLA ME YGEIA .

Tou apantaei enas vazelos:
den sas pianei kaneis pouthena, vgenete oloi kai lete gia ta aisxh ths toybas ,alla apo thn allh an timwrhthei o paok eynoeitai o panathinaikos!!! ti proteineis dld gia afta poy eginan sthn toyba? na timwrhthei oso xreiazetai gia na pexei me kosmo sthn toyba? afoy,opws lete, otan pame emeis de ginetai tpt!


POUTANAS - GIOI - VAZELES KYVERNHTIKOI !!!!!!! 1-2-3 GAMIETAI H NEA DHMOKRATIA !!!!!!!

TI TOYS LES TWRA. KOPSANE DYO PONTOYS AP TO 8RYLO, TELEIWSE H XRONIA. SE 2-3 BDOMADES 8A KANOYNE KAI TH FIESTA ME TO AFENTIKO KAI H XRONIA 8A PAEI MELI

GIA MIA APLH METAKINHSH FILATHLON KAI 2 KAREKLES METRHMENES POU EFYGAN, FAGAME 2, OI ZELES ME TOUS VOULGAROUS GIA TON PETROPOLEMO EPI 10 LEPTA STH LEOFORO POU EKTOS TON ALLON EXASE KAI ENAS TO MATI TOU APLO PROSTIMO...FYSIKA TORA, AFOU EMEIS GIA TIS PAPARIES FAGAME 1 AGONISTIKH, E NA MH FAEI 2 O PAOK GIA TO KURIAKATIKO ?...NA MHN GINOUN KAI OI2 AGONISTIKES 4 LOGO IPOTROPHS ?...ETSI DEN GINETAI TELIKA KEKLEISMENON O AGONAS PAOK - VAZELOU ?

RE MALAKES NEODHMOKRATES O KOKKALHS SAS ERIKSE THN PRWTH FORA, O KOKKALHS 8A SAS KSANARIKSEI

Mhn sas prizw apla eipa na ta kanw post giati 8elw na ta 8ymame otan pleon er8ei o kairos gia to mats me bazelo.....
xexe , molis plisiazei o kairos......


BIANCONERO
-Bebaios na pane na gami8oun kai oi dyo.....
-Bebaios ka8e xrono se OPEIO tripaki kai na mpoume ta idia 8a akoume.....
-Bebaios ka8e xrono 8a akoume ta idia

Ta exw labei ypopshn ola ayta , alla ti na kanw, SPAZOME !
Edw pou menw dystyxws den paizoun mono PAOKtshdes , alla kai merikoi diaforoi
asxetoi entelos gayrovazeloi pou den exoun dei ghpedo apo mesa , kai me spane ta @@
ka8e ligo kai ligaki mia o enas mia o allos !
Kai AYTO einai pou me trellainei. Kontepsame na plakw8oume sto 3ylo me poly kalo gnwsto mou,
8a me peis "mhn asxolise mazi tou" , alla den einai etsi.
Einai kaloi gnwstoi , arazoume sta idia magazia , alla h ASXETOSYNH tous apo ta pragmatika
ellhnika drwmena einai to kako. 3ereis pws to ennow..... px. ? Ta klasika paradeigmata :
Alites xouligkan mpikate mesa 200 ! ! !  prepei na timwri8ite !
H nd 8a dwsei kai pali to prwta8lima ston bazelo!
Kala tyflos eisai Billy ? DEN htan penalti ? Kai paei legontas........
Kala milame ti kolofardoi h gayroi? paraponiounte kai gia thn diaitisia.
Kala , kanoniste me mas na pai3ete me ta deytera, na to paroume peripato.
Emeis den xreiazomaste daitites gia na kerdizoume spa8ata , den eimaste gayroi

Asta na pane se lew file mou BIANCONERO, asta na pane.......


Parasyr8ika , elpizw na mhn sas kourasa.......
Title: Re: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: drous on March 08, 2005, 14:48:25
Symfwnw kai egw me ton Billypoglwssio. File Spartian mporei o PAOK na prepei na pai3ei gia thn istoria tou alla oti kai na kanei 8a einai mas kataspara3oune.

Thn mia eimaste h 2h omada tou dhmosiou kai dekanikia tou kokkalh, mia kai pernaei xwris htta apo thn Toumpa o Gay (fusika afou sumfwna me egkures plhrofories, emeis plhrwnoume tous KasnaferoPapapetroZwgrafous gia na mas sfazoune) kai apo thn allh eimaste oi tsatsoi tou Bardinogiannh (giati sthsame perusi to paixnidi me ton bazelo sto 92:40, eikosi deuterolepta prin thn lh3h).

Opws blepeis, mona-zuga xanoume. Auto bebaia einai kalo, giat:L Afou OLOI mas kathgoroune, shmainei oti mas FOBOYNTAI.

Kai me prolabes, gia to skhniko me thn apoxwrhsh Boulinou apo to OAKA (thn opoia 8ewrw mia apo tis xruses selides ths istorias mas)

Hgoumene, mprosta sou o Boulinos fantazei Gigantas!

Ante palhkari mou, adeiase mas th gwnia
Title: Re: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: spartian on March 08, 2005, 15:23:09
Συμφωνώ απόλυτα μαζί σου φίλε drous πως θα τα ακούσουμε (όπως και τα ακούμε πάντα) Ο,ΤΙ ΜΑ Ο,ΤΙ ΚΑΙ ΝΑΓΙΝΕΙ!
Όταν έλεγα να παίξουμε για νίκη εννοούσα πως να το κάνουμε για να τα έχουμε εμείς καλά με τη συνείδησή μας. Για τους gay-broβαζέλες στα @@ μου.
Γενικά πάντως οι τύποι δεν παίζονται!!! Για να καταλάβω: Πέρσυ το δώσαμε γιατί είμαστε τσιράκια του βαρδινογιάννη. Πρόπερσυ όμως που ρίξαμε 4 τί είμασταν; Μια χρονιά πριν που πήραμε διπλό στη λεωφλώρο τί είμασταν; Το οτι ο gay περνάει εδώ και 7 χρόνια από την Τούμπα (με πονάει αυτό αλλά συμβαίνει)- δηλαδή έχει όλα αυτά τα χρόνια καλύτερα αποτελέσματα από τον βάζελο δεν το σκέφτονται;
Δηλαδή αν φέρουμε καμμιά ισοπαλία και το εκμεταλλευτούν τα χανούμια και το πάρουν, θα είμαστε τσιράκια του Νικολαίδη;;;

Ε , να πάτε να γαμηθείτε! ο gay που έδωσε φέτος 5 βαθμούς στην Ξάνθη  μέσα-έξω είναι τσιράκι του Πανόπουλου με την ίδια λογική καιι έκατσε για να τον βγάλει UEFA...
Title: Απ: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: artemios on August 11, 2005, 12:56:44
KATESTIMENO kai kopleksismos stop megaleio tou zwntas makria stin australia san ellinas prospa8w na akougete ellinikh foni sto spiti panta etsi exoume ta legomena doriforika kanalia kai dustixos mono duo to erta sat kai to kolokanalo tou antena pacific
stis eidhseis tou antena mas exoune zalisei ma to metagrafiko pazari tou gay vazelou kai xanoumi tipota ma tipota gia kamia alli omada les kai meis eimaste polites deuterhs katigorias to idio peripou kai gia to kratiko kanali to mono kalo oti vlepoume mpalla kai tin athlitiki kiriaki
molis perasei o minas ekopsa apo tora to kolokanalo tou antena pou edw stin australia exei ola ta mats tou gay ta entos edras
Title: Απ: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: alessandro4 on August 11, 2005, 13:15:40
min asxoleise re file. den toys axizei.

kai mi nomizeis ta idia kai edo. ego megalosa se poli tis thessalias, kai spoydasa akoma pio kato. ama eisai stin athina px akoys epi 24oroy kathe ora KAI toys 3 reporter ton omadon ton athinon, kai toy PAOK mia fora tin mera. bgale symperasmata :)
Title: Απ: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: ÌÁÊÅÄÏÍÏÌÁ×ÏÓ on August 11, 2005, 18:28:32
to mikro to sumbouleuhs
tou matheneis thn alhthia
tou deixneis ton swsto dromo
kai ton ntunhs sta mauroaspra
Title: Απ: To a8hnaiko/peiraiwtiko katesthmeno
Post by: PARIZIANOS on August 11, 2005, 19:05:59
Quote from: alessandro4 on August 11, 2005, 13:15:40
min asxoleise re file. den toys axizei.

kai mi nomizeis ta idia kai edo. ego megalosa se poli tis thessalias, kai spoydasa akoma pio kato. ama eisai stin athina px akoys epi 24oroy kathe ora KAI toys 3 reporter ton omadon ton athinon, kai toy PAOK mia fora tin mera. bgale symperasmata :)

Pantws, na poume pws (oso hmoun Thessaloniki, giati twra...) ki emeis akougame mono gia thn YPEROMADA (emas dhladh), kati Stroumfakia kai kati Erpeta...Akousate pote (parapanw apo mia fora thn hmera, dhladh) gia tous gay-vazelous-xanoumia?

Logiko einai, nomizw, ta Mesa Mazikhs Eksapathshs na theloun na "poulhsoun"...