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prox8es to vrady entellws tyxaia egina dekths (apo kollhtari sthn ellada) mias die8ynshs istoselidas pragmatika PRODOSIA gia thn ellada kai pio poly gia thn MAKEDONIA mas...
ekatsa olo to vrady kai pragmatika eniwsa AHDIA, SIXAMARA alla kai ANASFALEIA...prwta apo ola omws na xhgh8w magges...pote den yphrxa kollhmeno myalo me e8nikistika ais8hmata..hmun panta ths apopshs oti eite kniths eite skinas to idio kai to ayto..pragmata akraia kai epikyndhna..epikyndhna otan asxolei8eis mazi tus..enw an tus grapseis sta @@ su 8a shmanei kai to telos tus...
omws epeidh menw 7 xronia twra sto exwteriko exw ais8an8ei sto petsi mu to ti shmainei xenitia..to ti shmainei na eisai kapoies wres makrya apo to topo pu gennh8hkes, pu megalwses kai pu andrw8hkes...makrya apo goneis, filus, omades, gnwsta merh, akoma kai apo gynaikes kai paidia (se periptwseis filwn mu edw)...makrya apo ton kaftero hlio tu kalokairiu, to drosero 8alassino aeraki tu f8inoporu, ton pagetwna panw se kapoia vunokorfh...exw zhsei thn elleipsh apo th myrwdia tu ellhniku kaffe, twn laderwn faghtwn, th laxtara gia feta, gia uzaki me 8alassina, h akoma kai to zesto karveli to pswmi...zwntas poly makrya apo thn myrwdia ths sompas me ta xyla se kapoio oreino xwrio, ton hxo-kalesma ths kampanas kapoias ekklhsias kyriakh prwi...to tsampuka kai ton ay8ormhtismo tu ellhna ergath, thn agwnia kai thn xalarothta tu ellhna ma8hth, to agxos tu ellhna odhgu pu varaei th korna tu ka8e 30 metra...
ola ayta ta pragmata pu diamorfwnun ton ellhniko xarakthra..to ellhniko stoixeio mesa mas..ayto EINAI to aiwnio ellhniko pnevma..h istoria mas, to paron mas kai to mellon mas..
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me ola ayta na vrazun mesa sto aima mu kai na einai va8eia xaragmena mesa sth kardia mu mpainw kai vlepw to en logw site!!! http://www.geocities.com/bulgarmak/index.html
xekinhsa na diavasw thn prwth selida…opws emeis edw exume to intro sto paokworld etsi kai ayto to site exei to analogo intro…paizontas mia musikula apo pisw h opoia na 8ymizei ellada alla na einai emfanws parapoihmenh me polla akornteon….vlepw “Bulgarika Dikaiwmata sthn Ellada”, “H Vulgaria einai h monadikh xwra pu synorevei me ton eayto ths, thn Makedonia” kai “h Makedonia den einai Ellhnikh”….agrievw ligaki alla skeftomai ante kammia malakia 8a einai kapoiu politikanth laoplanu karaggiozi…pataw to enter the site kai vriskomai se ena site gemato apy8meno misos gia th makedonia mas….diavazw ena ena ola ta ar8ra kai pragmatika aporw pws, xwris malakies adelfia APORW PWS STO PUTSO exei dhmiurgh8ei ena tetoio site….kai den einai h dhmiurgia aytu tu site….tetoia (dystyxws) to GAMWinternet exei polla….ayto pu me trelene se ka8e ar8ro pu viadaza htan ayto pu egrafe katw-katw:
"BULGARIAN HUMAN RIGHTS IN MACEDONIA” is a NGO operating legitimately under Greek Law 59/1974 Copyright © 2002 www.bulgarmak.org All rights reserved including title, text and political logo
ena site gemato ahdia kai sixamara….ena site gemato misos gia ena lao pu exei ypoferei apo tis kakuxies polemwn kai vrwmikwn politikwn paixnidiwn mexri kai prin apo mwlis 50 xronia….ena site pu LEITURGEI KATW APO TON ELLHNIKO (!!!!!) NOMO 59/1974….
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ena gamhmeno site gemato pseyties kai sykofanties….me idees opws “oi pontioi den exun kammia sxesh me tus ellhnes”, “nomimh h epemvash ths turkias sthn kypro”, “Megas Alexandros, o megas foneas twn lawn”, “Apogonoi Kafrwn apo thn Ai8iopia oi Ellhnes”, antirhseis gia vyzantio, tafo filippu, makedoniko agwna, xeftilisma pragmatiko makedonomaxwn, egglhmaties me rasa!!!!!
ANAGULA KAI SIXAMARA..NTREPOMAI GIA AYTUS TUS ELEINUS TYPAKUS PU PSHFISAN GIA AYTO TO NOMO….NTREPOMAI GIA OLUS EMAS PU PSHFISAME AYTUS TUS SALTIMPAGUS KAI KARAGGIOZHDES, OI OPOIOI PROASPHZONTAI “TA E8NIKA MAS SYMFERONTA” PULWNTAS KA8E TI ELLHNIKO…
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TELIKA skeftomai:
(1) r c lew ston eayto mu mhpws ola ayta pu mu leipun (kai pu egrapsa parapanw) telika einai fantastika?? Mhpws den yparxun??? Mhpws telika eimai kala edw pu eimai?? Se enan xwro eleeino gemato sex, drugs kai rufiania???? Mhpws h epi8ymia mu na me 8apsun katw apo ellhniko xwma opws to propappu mu kai to pappu mu einai telika apla mia xeftismenh “paradosh”???
(2) R c mhpws ayta diavazun oloi aytoi oi episthmones ths xavuzas kai me fwnazun vulgaro??? Les na exun dikio pu akoma kai oi sympolites mu mwlis ex8es se mia poly megalh nikh tus mesa sthn edra mu anti gia to onoma ths omadas tus fwnazan oti eimai xenos???…kai malista kunwntas “ena panino kommati” (!!!!) to opoio omws pote den exun doxasei entos kai EKTOS synorwn
(3) Eniwsa anasfaleia kai monaxia…r malaka, eipa, posoi einai aytoi pu ka8ontai kai vlepun ayto to site kai yo8etun tetoies apopseis??? Pu einai to kratos mu, pu egw o malakas to plhrwnw ka8e mera, ka8e mhna, ka8e xrono MIA OLOKLHRH ZWH…egw tus pistepsa kai tus pshfisa gia na me prosexun, na me profyllasun apo ka8e kindyno (eswgenh h exwgenh)…mhpws telika aytoi einai o megalyteros kindynos?
(4) Mhpws h omada pu pistevw den dhmiurgh8hke apo thn agaph ghgenos ellhnwn kai apo ellhnes prosfyges apo ponto kai mikra asia??? Mhpws otan me rwtane ti omada eimai prepei na apantaw PERACLOYMP kai gia arxhgo ths xwras mu na exw ton Kemal Atartuk???
(5) R c mhpws tetoia site evlepe kai o neoteros Vasilias twn Makedonwn kai tus peire olus mesa se ena vrady??? Mpas kai mesa apo th tsantila tu kai th sixamara tu gia ola ta an8rwpoeidh pu eixe gyrw tu, eftase ws thn allh akrh tu kosmu gia na mporesei epitelus na vrei thn hremia kai th galhnh tu…akolu8wntas (FOR THYSELF ANOTHER KINGDOM) tis prostages/eyxes tu Patera Tu…
(6) R malakako Alexh mhpws exeis frikarei??? Mhpws vlepeis fantasmata??? Ypoti8emenus ex8rus??? Les ayth h trypa pu eixa faei prin apo 4 xronia na mu ta skaei twra??? Mhpws apogohteytikes apo to podosfairo kai 8es na to gyriseis ston e8nikismo????
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Oxi magges…doxa to 8eo eimai mia xara…dystyxws to site einai akoma ekei kai mporeite kai eseis na niwsete thn sixamara kai thn ahdia pu ekpempei mesa apo ka8e protash tu…Kai ola ayta me th symfwnh gnwmh tu ellhniku kratus (!!!!!!) me ton nomo 59/1974…pu an, an lew den eimai siguros, ayto to 1974 yponoei to etos pshfishs tote la8os egw nomiza oti to 1974 epanhl8e h DHMOKRATIA sthn ellada…tsampa exana ma8hmata ka8e xrono kai giortaza stis 17 noemvriu to polytexneio kai tus nekrus pu pesan gia thn paliggenesia ths dhmokratias…ektos kai an dhmokratia gia aytus shmainei asydosia, kai aggaliasma se ka8e ti pu apotelei kyndino…
Twra 8a prepei na grapsw kai na proteinw kai tropus antimetwpishs tu olu aftu fainomenu…apo thn arxh den h8ela na kanw post ayto to sixamero site…oso pio polys kosmos to xerei kai to episkeptetai toso xeirotero einai…dinume thn xara se aytes tis vulgares putanitses pu apo la8os ths fyshs gennh8hkan sthn ellada na vlepun ton ari8mo episkeptwn na ayxanetai…na gyrisw na pw oti kala 8a htan na vrume aytus pu fteiaxan to site kai na tus mavrisume sto xylo einai paidiko…to na steilw mail se aytus pu exun to site den 8a petyxei tipota para thn xara kai to xamogelo sta xeilh aytwn twn an8rwpoeidwn zwwn…
Pistevw oti h syntaxh enos aplu kai xeka8aru keimenu apo emas tus idius kai h apostolh tu se:
- Ypurgeio e8nikhs amynas: journalists@mod.gr
- Ypurgeio paideias kai 8rhskevmatwn webmaster@ypepth.gr
- Ypurgeio politismu w3admin@culture.gr
- Ypurgeio typu kai M.M.E. protocol@minpress.gr
-Or8odoxh ekklhsia ellados contact@ecclesia.gr
-Ypurgeio makedonias 8rakhs www.mathra.gr/pageminister/pageministermes.html (edw xreiazetai na episkeptume to site kai na kanume copy-paste to keimeno)
isws tarakunhsei kapoion…isws na yparxun kai kapoioi romantikoi opws egw opws eseis anamesa se olh aythn thn sixamara kai vrwmia…
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e kai mh gyrisete na mu peite "entaxei mwre pws kaneis etsi...mh trelenesai mwre..ta exume dei ayta kai 8a ta xanadume" kai xerw gw...mh gyrisete kai peite oti ta paralew...an ta paralew pante deite ena mono ar8ro (AN DHLADH VARIESTE TOSO POLY NA ASXOLI8EITE) ayto pu afora thn ellhnikothta twn adelfwn mas pontiwn..ena katevato misus kai ahdias apenanti se ena XERIZWMENO lao..ena ar8ro me polles mphxtes se ena allo sfagmeno lao, ayton twn armeniwn..
den 8a dextw kammia adiaforia..einai vevaia dikaiwma sas na me grapsete (oxi emena) alla thn yparxh aytu tu site sta @@ria sas...alla pistepste me apo edw kai pera EGW san Alexhs protimw na stelnw ena mynhma se ka8e ypurgeio ths elladas, gnwstopoiwntas thn yparxh ayths ths leras, para na kanw post sto paokworld..protimw skopos mu na ginei na kleisei aytos o vo8ros para na pw allh mia fora GAMIETAI O 8RHNOS KAI O PEIRAIAS...
arketa giname kolo-magges fwnazontas a8lhtikus dikastes na timwrhsun opadus pu mas vrizun ws atoma-mh exontes topo katagwghs...as kanume kati na kleisume tis phges plhroforhshs olwn aytwn twn fidiwn..
me timh kai pa8os gia ton agwna mas
A L E X I O S
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kai egw twra to eida file kai efrixa........
pio poli omws me anisixei......
i aristi xrisi ara kai gnwsi twn ellinikwn apo auton ton tipo....
pragmatika me problimatise.....
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milame gia pollh ahdia gia pollh proklhtiko site!!!!
den kserw ti na pw? pws einai kai nomimo na graftei mia tetia ahdia den mporo na katalabw.. ti sto diaolo ginetai 8a afanistoume telios? exw mhnei me anhxto to stoma!
prepei na antidrasoume... hdh exw steilei 3 e-mail..
elladitsa ti exeis pa8ei....
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Swsta ta lete re aderfia alla den mas akouei kaneis
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AISXOS!! AHDIA!!!! ANAGOULA!!!! Ti pragmata einai ayta. Kai owmws magges afti einai h ellada mas. Esteila mail, opoios exei ligh wra as steilei kanena.
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gia pio kratos milame? edo pirame tous s300 oi opoioi dimiourgoun omprela stin xora kai epeidi oi tourkoi pairnoun opla apo tous amerikanous kai oi amerikanoi den vrikan lish gia na parakamptoun tous s300 ethesan veto oi tourkoi stous amerikanous na min tous egatastisoume kai oi dikoi mas oi skiftoulides to ekanan ektos nomizo apo tin kriti ala kai ekei apenergopoiimenoi tha einai. ase pou oloi agorazoun aeroplana kai emeis pairnoume leopard xoris tous piraylous!!!!!!! oso gia to site tha pao tora na rikso mia matia..... kati paromio eixe pei enas ekfoniths radiofonikhs ekpompis gia ena site skopion oi opoioi parapoioun ta panta kai anaferontai emetika to site den to gnorizo tha rotiso kai tha prospathiso na sas doso tin dieythinsh
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tora prospathisa na mpo sto site kai den mou to vgazei akoma kai me ananeosh mipos to katirgisan?
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mpa synenomate...dystyxws h ahdia akoma yparxei...
!!!!!!!KAI ALLWSTE PWS NA MHN YPARXEI!!!!!!
Vrady kyriakhs 8ymamai apo pitsiriki na exw teleiwsei th masa kai na perimenw me agwnia na dw thn perhfhmh A8LHTIKH KYRIAKH!!!panta mia zwh h dhmosiografoi ths ekmpomphs ayths htan rukunes kai apotyxhmenoi...gustaran thn mpala alla oi gnwseis tus peri podosfairu alla kai h xrhsh ths ellhnikhs glwssas ypova8mize thn poiothta ths ekpomphs...ALLA poios 8ellei panepistimiakus kai pantognwsthdes sta tsimenta????kaneis...opote gustarame oloi thn a8lhtikh kyriakh!!!!
X8es edw sto manchester eixe kairo kalokairino opote organwsame ena mini-barbeque...apo nwris retsines, skapsimo laku kai genika ola ta ergaleia pros terpshn ka8e gastronomikoeggefalikhs orexews...parallhla me ta tragudakia epaize kai ellhnikh thleorash (nova)...erxetai to vradaki loipon, katalavainete se ti fash eimaste oloi kai arxizun ekpomph oi 2 MUNTIALIKOI, expert tu podosfairu kai ths thleorashs...o enas apo aytus, aytos pu moiazei me to gkousgkounh, loipon se kapoia fash anaferetai sta epeisodia...na anafer8ei oti gia th nea smyrnh oi 2 en logw kyrioi edeixan apospasmata 3 deyterolepta (enw epefte xylo olo to 2o hmixrono) kai sta trikala afierwsan 10 oloklhra lepta...estw...o mister gkusgkunhs loipon leei to 8eiko anaforika twn antie8nikwn syn8hmatwn:
"...gia thn olympiada exun dhlwsei symmetoxh gia e8elontismo xiliades atoma-neolaia apo th Vulgaria...ara h geitonikh xwra den mporei na 8ewreite ute kindynos ute ex8ros...OPOTE kai h ekfrash oti oi makedones einai vulgaroi den einai VRISIA!!!"
pate tipota gia to ellhniko kratos adelfia paoktzhdes??? eeee??
h ekpomph pu fre8ei podosfairika genees ellhnwn pistevei me liga logia oti oloi osoi pe8anan gia thn ellhnikothta ths makedonias mas, phgan tsampa...giati pote oi Vulgaroi kommitatzhdes den skotwsan paidakia, pote den kremasan papades gymnus, pote den viasan ellhnides stelnontas ta neogennhta paidia tus kapu sto anatoliko mploko me stoxo na tus kanun orkismenus ex8rus ths idias tus ths xwras, ths idias tus ths manas!!!
DEN APOTELEI VRISIA H TAYTISH TWN MAKEDONWN ME TUS VULGARUS!!! ti allo 8a akusume r cs??vre gamwkurupa me tis tirantes exeis zhsei pote san makedonas???ma toso eleeinos eisai pote den se proskalesan na deis ti esti makedonikh filoxenia??? eimaste to idio me tus vulgarus??? vre gamw thn olympiada su kai ta osa gkafra pu 8a vgaleis me symfwnies katw apo to trapezi MAS DULEVEIS sto iswma??? KALA DHLADH TOSO FTWXUS STO MYALO MAS 8EWREITE???
kai epanerxomai...r c ALEX poio site na svhsune??? aytoi mas kanun kai plakitsa apo panw...paizun me ta tsatalia mas, thn nohmosynh mas...
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loipon kyrie PAPARUTSO to mono pu kataferes htan na me xalaseis to kefi meta apo mia poly omorfh kyriakatikh ousiooinoposia kai masa kai meta apo mia aneth nikh apenanti se mia mikromesaia omadula...xerw oti esy kai to allo fidi ekei dipla su kataferate perissotera...isws xreiasteis kai allo ena zeygari tirantes wste na shkwneis tis paxies kai ashkwtes apo ta gkafra kai th vrwma tsepes su...
H MAKEDONIA PUTANAS GIE EINAI ELLHNIKH..an gustareis na to epivevaiwshs vgeka apo th xavuza kai th sapila kai ela na pareis ligo ka8aro aera se kapoio vuno ths makedonias mas...an 8elleis na meineis "in", "cool" "must" kai xerw gw tulaxiston mhn asxoleisai me th parth mas..kane th dulitsa su (gemize tsepes dhladh) me ta lima ths polh su kai otan 8es na kaneis diakopules pane sta exwtika merh ths paraliakhs (p.x. astera vuliagmenhs!!) sas h xwsu se kapoio "teleytaias texnologias" karavi gia mykono, paro h santorinh!!!
kai epanerxomai...me thn idia logikh vrwmokariole h mish a8hna (isws kai perissoteroi) einai prwhn katoikoi ths Vorieu Hpeiru kai ths Alvanias...kanena provlhma den exume me ta paidia!!! ta paidia sas skatovlaxoi myxiarhdes se aytus pane kai 'pswnizun' ta sea kai ta mea tus...kai aytoi 8a einai "e8elontes" stus gamwolympiakus sas!!! Ara mhn treleneste pu sas fwnazume ALVANUS...DEN EINAI VRISIA!!!sthn periptwsh sas einai TIMH.
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batou-4
ws pote ayto laliwti simiti klp???os pote tha pethainoun athwa atoma???diladi prepei na skotwthei kapoios diko sas gia na to katalavate???
kai stin teliki epeidi eimai ellinas forologoumenos politis den to zitaw na ton ftiaksete alla to APAITW
opws exete ftiaksei tin athina gia tin olympiada
exete ypoxrewsi na doulepsete kai gia tin ypoloipi ellada
prin 1 mina to leofwrio ston aliakmona me mpares apo xarti
twra ti metra exete lavei gia na min ksanaginei tetoio kako???
TIPOTA!!!
etsi adelfe...etsi...katevaineis sthn krhth gia diakopules kai vlepeis sto teleytaio xwrio panw sto pshlorhth(maggia tus kai xara tus den exw tpt me ta palikaria ths krhths!!!) na yparxun dromoi AERODROMIA!!!diplhs kate8yhnshs, me lwrides kai xerw gw...kai vlepeis to dromo pu enwnei tis 2 megalyteres poleis ths elladas na einai sthn idia katastash edw kai 40 oloklhra xronia!!!
egine to ergo tu aerodromiu sta spata kai fysika mpravo tus...pas gia aerodromio kai klaneis kanonika me tus dromus pu exun fteiaxei...tus opoius teleiwsan se mhnes mesa...
pas apo larissa 8essalonikh kai se paei to skato sth kaltsa apo tis strofes skotwstres pu yparxun...kaneis taxidi apo iwannina gia 8essalonikh kai otan telika ftaseis kai den exeis trakarei pas katey8eian sto plynthrio tu venzinadiku gia na ka8ariseis patakia pu einai gemata apo emetus skata kai xerw gw...
MAZEYTE PSHFUS VRWMIARHDES...MAZEYTE FHMH KAI LEFTA...AFHSTE TO KOSMO NA SKOTWNETE SE XARTINUS DROMUS...SYNEXISTE NA RIXNETE STAXTH SE OLUS MAS KAI NA ASXOLUMASTE ME TO AN TO "VULGAROI" EINAI VRISIA!!!VGALTE LEFTA VRYKOLAKES!!!ETSI...THN IDIA STIGMH PU DEIXNETE ENA TRAGIKO DYSTHXHMA(isws to xeirotero pu egine pote) ESEIS DEIXTE MAS TO PENALTY TU VAZELOGAVRU...ETSI PAIXTE ME THN NOHMOSYNH MAS!!!
DEN FANTAZESTE POSO GELOIOI FAINESTE STA MATIA MAS!!!
dystyxws etsi einai adelfia....AYTO EINAI TO GAMHDI TO KRATOS PU ZUME OLOI MAS!!! mia xavuza...mia skupidiara...enas fataulas...
ax!!! ELLADA...ESY MAS MARANES!!!
...den mporw na th vrw me computer kai me kumpakia
new wave jazz rock sex drugs rock'n'roll
me tzatziki kai me suvlakia...
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RE MAGKES TO MONO PRAGMA POU MPORO NA PO EINAI AISXOS. AUTO EINAI TO KRATOS THS A8HNAS. KALA DEN NTREPONTAI LIGO RE? POS EPITREPOUN TETOIA AISXH?
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ontos einai ahdia sinonomate tora mpeika sto site kai oxi mono den to svisane alla etoimazoun kai afieroma(sta prosexos) makedonia/apo pou ki os pou elliniki ontos mas douleuoune.....den eiparxei kanenas tropos kanena tsakali na tous to kanei mpourdelo to site?
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Na po kai go th gnomh moy:
a)den mporeis na krineis kai na epikrineis diafora koinonika synola apo ekdhloseis yposynolon ayton. Allios: den einai oloi oi Kyprioi An8lelhnes epeidh kapoioi kaine elhnikes shmaies. Nai, yparxoyn Kyprioi poy ais8anontai prodomenoi apo toys "Kalamarades" Ellladites, yparxoyn kapoioi alloi poy zhtane thn Enosh me th mhtera Ellada, kai kapoioi alloi poy 8eloyn aytonomh poreia entelos. Lene gia toys Kyprioys oti to mono poy toys noiazei einai h tseph toys, kai oti se periptosh syrakshs me thn Toyrkia den 8a edinan dekara tsakisth. Apanto oti se periptosh polemoy me thn Toyrkia yparxoyn KAI Elladites poy 8a ekanan to idio...
b)Oi Pontioi exoyn trabhksei ta pandeina edo kai aiones. Den eimai Pontios, toys 8aymazo omos gia diafora epiteygmata tous kai kyrios gia thn diathrhsh trhs ellhnikothtas toys parolo ton katatregmo toys apo diaforoys laoys (px Toyrkoys, Armenioys, Sobietikoys klp).Asxeta apo ta anekdota (pou Kai ego leo)einai apo toys pio basanismenoys mh-Elladites Ellhnes.
c)Me thn idia logikh den xarakthrizo oyte toys Voreiohpeirotes san Albanoys...
d)...oyte omos kai toys A8hnaioys os Albanoys (akoma kai an kapoioi hli8ioi A8hnaioi me fvnazoyn Boylgaro)
e)Gia ton Mega Aleksandro eimai adiabastos kai den ekfero gnomh. Exo asxolh8ei elaxista opote krato epifylakseis. Plhrh apopsh 8a exo otan melethso perissotero.Pros to paron kai me polles epifylakseis exo symperaneo oti den htan barbaros san to Djinkins Khan, alla oyte kai a8oa peristera.
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h)Kalo to forum mas poy asxoleitai KAI me tetoia zhthmata, omos xasate grhgora thn mpala kai arxisate ta brisidia (oxi oloi!). Mh ksexnate omos oti edo mesa oloi PAOK eimaste(akoma kai otan exoyme diaforetikes apopseis). Gi ayto agkaliasteite, filh8eite kai fonaxte PAOK!
PS: kai fysika o PAOK sxetizetai kai me M.Asia kai me Ponto kai genikotera me prosfygeia
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...Η ΜΑΛΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΓΙΑ ΤΑ ΤΡΙΑ ΓΙΑΤΙ ΕΙΜΑΙ ΚΑΙ ΠΑΟΚ....
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LOIPON PAIDIA...EIDA TI EXETE PEI ... SUMFONW MAZI SAS STA PERI THS MAKEDONIAS...
mexri edw ola kala...xairomai ki'olas pu symfwneis me ta osa exun eipw8ei mexri twra....
ALLA DIAFONW AKRANTAXTA GIA TON MEGAL ALEXANDRO! DILADI RE PAIDIA GIATI O KEMAL NA THREWTEITAI APO MAS FONEAS KAI TURANNOS KAI O ALEXANDROS PU EKANE OLOKLIRH EKSTRATIA STIS DIKES TOUS PERIOXES PRWTOS ... PROSEXTE...PRWTOS...NA THEWREITAI MEGALOS K TRANOS ? AUTOI EIXAN ANEKATHEN EKEINES TIS PERIOXES ... APO PERSIKH EPOXH DLD....GIATI EMEIS EIMASTE OI KALOI K AUTOI PANTA OI UPO ... APO MAS ... ?EPEISHS MH 3EXNATE OTI O KEMAL HTAN HGETHS THS XWRAS TOU...OPWS EMAS O ALEXANDROS ... KAI OTI PRWTOI EMEIS THELISAME NA BUME K NA KATAKTHSUME ME TO ETSI THELW TIS PERIOXES TOUS...PU SUNEXISTIKE K ARGOTERA...MEXEI K 1922 .. APO DIKIA MAS MALKIA XASAME K TH SMURNH ALLWS TORA OLOI 5HMERES KAI 7HMERES THA PHGAINAME SMHRNH K OXI RODO...
mono kai mono to oti arxizeis syzhthsh gia ton NEOTERO VASILEA TWN MAKEDONWN 8a prepei na se pianun righ...epeidh exw katalavei ti exei paixtei katse na se pw kapoia pragmatakia...to na apokaleis kapoion an8rwpo me to onoma tu mh to 8ewreis stokiliki kai komplexismo...etsi einai to onoma kai o titlos tu mega-an8rwpu aytu...nomizw oti me 8ewrhses apo ta legomena mu oti eimai E8NIKISTHS kai kollhmeno kefali...allwste h ypografh su P.A.O.K.-----ANARXIA deixnei to pistevw su...xerw oti apla vghkes na dwseis stigma na mhn ginomaste akraioi se zhthmata ellados...symfwnw adelfe alla allo o patriwtismos kai allo o e8nikismos...mh ta mperdeveis kai mhn prospa8eis na vgaleis lavraki...
twra na katsw na syggrinw enan 8ea-an8rwpo o opoios an to kaloskefteis apla ikanopoihse tis eyxes tu patera tu "psaxe kai vres TUS ena allo vasileio...ayto edw einai poly mikro gia AYTUS!!!"...oxi gia na paei na skotwsei h na pulhsei maggia....alla gia na vrei ena megalytero (oxi se ektash, alla se timh kai doxa) meros gia na perasun aiwnes, xilieties kai na synexisume na milame egw kai esy ellhnika (isws oxi sthn swsth morfh alla...)...mia eyxh-prostagh thn opoia klhronomhse kai thn ikanopoihse mexri ta 31 tu xronia...makari r alani mexri ta 31 mu kai egw na kataferw oti me zhthse o pateras mu...apo timiothta, paoktziliki, yperhfaneia mexri kai vasileio oloklhro...poios atartuk r c???plaka mas kaneis???syggrineis la8os mege8h me la8os dedomena!!!
SUMFONW GIA TOUS PONTIOUS...AN K DE ME POLUNOIAZEI...OUTE ESAS
...NTROPH R FILARAKI...NTROPH GAMW TH TRELLA MU...me kaneis na amfisvhto to paoktziliki su...kai mh vgeis kai me peis ti exeis kanei, pu exeis paei, ilikies, narkwtika, tsampukades kai poios eisai genikotera...posos me endiaferei...me deineis na katalavw oti DEN XEREIS THN ISTORIA TU P.A.O.K....
twra gia Kypro ase mas r file...elpizw kai eyxomai se osus den exun paei fantarus na pane EL.DY.K.!!!a re paidakia...poso liga xerete...mu syggrineis to turko me ton ellhna xwris kan na exei eipw8ei kati gia tus turkus se ayto to forum...ena ka8ara forum gia thn anikanothta ths ellados na mas profylaxei apo emetikus kai anepi8ymhtus typus/idees/site/gnwmes...kai esy me les WS LYSH THS ELLADOS TO NA PERIMENUME NA MAS SWSUN THN OIKONOMIA OI ADELFOI MAS APO TH KYPRO??? ...KAI H ELLHNIKH OIKONOMIA THA BULIAXEI K ALLO...ENW AN GINEI KATI STON EBRO...@@ KAPAMA KAI MUNI KALABREZIKO THA TREXUN AUTOI...
MHN EISTE TOSO KLEISTOMUALLOI...DEITE TO LIGO ALLIWS....XWRIS POLEMO K ME ANTHRWPIA...LUNONTAI OLA
kleistomyallos pu evgaza kanthles me to filovulgariko site??? ti na dw alliws, otan skotwnontai ta paidia mas se dromus xartinus??? gia poio polemo milas??? mhpws telika esy eisai aytos pu vlepei fantasmata???
K ME TON PAOK STH KARDIA BEBAIA ... !
nai to P.A.O.K. pu agapame oloi MAS!!! OLOI MAS!!! ta palikaria apo th KYPRO, tus pontius (pu oi progonoi tus htan prwtergates sthn idrysh ths omadas mas!!) kai ola ta adelfia ana thn yfhlio...
allwste gia ayto yparxei ayto to site...gia na mas fernei pio konta, kai oxi na malwnume...an niw8eis kati gia kypro, mega alexandro, ponto, mikra asia, krata to gia th parth su!!! einai toso lepto to 8ema pu den xwraei aerologies....
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Αδερφια, το ανιστορητο μουνι της λασπης που ευθυνετε για αυτη την κωλλοσελιδα στελνει emails με το ονομα Antony Katsoris (kaltsef@hotmail.com). Εγω προσωπικα του εστειλα τα στοιχεια και τον προσκαλλεσα σε ιστορική συζητηση για να του δειξουμε τι εστι ελληνικο βερικοκο. Δεν νομιζω να εχει τον ανδρισμο να ανταποκριθει. Οποιος εχει τα μεσα και τον τροπο παρακαλω ας τον ψαξει και ας μας παρεχει feedback για να του οργανωσουμε την ξηγα που που αρμοζει.
Τα παραπανω που γραφατε δεν μπηκα στον κοπο να τα διαβασω γιατι ειμαι σιγουρος οτι παλι σκοτωνοσασταν μεταξυ σας σε ενα θεμα που μας θελει ολλους τους Μακεδονες-Ελληνες ενωμενους και αποφασισμενους.
Με αδερφικους χαιρετισμους
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Αδερφια, το ανιστορητο μουνι της λασπης που ευθυνετε για αυτη την κωλλοσελιδα στελνει emails με το ονομα Antony Katsoris (kaltsef@hotmail.com). Εγω προσωπικα του εστειλα τα στοιχεια και τον προσκαλλεσα σε ιστορική συζητηση για να του δειξουμε τι εστι ελληνικο βερικοκο.
adelfe ekanes megalh maggia....eisai wraios.....kati exume sta xeria mas loipon....elpizw se ligo kairo na exume perissotera....xhgh8hkes maggioromaggiora!!!
Τα παραπανω που γραφατε δεν μπηκα στον κοπο να τα διαβασω γιατι ειμαι σιγουρος οτι παλι σκοτωνοσασταν μεταξυ σας σε ενα θεμα που μας θελει ολλους τους Μακεδονες-Ελληνες ενωμενους και αποφασισμενους.
edw mu ta xalas ligo....entaxei "skwtonomaste"....sth kyrila r c...apla antallaxame apopseis se entono va8mo....oxi skwtonomaste....o ka8enas poio panw kati ema8e parapanw apo oti an den eixe ginei ayth h lextikh filonikia....tespa...8ewreite lhxan....eipame prepei na antallazume apopseis vasismenes se gera 8emelia kai yparxta epixeirhmata....alliws kozarume ta hdh eipwmena kai 'masulwntas' ka8e plhroforia dhmiurgume apopsh kai gnwsh!!!
to na mh milame kai apla na eimaste oloi enwmenoi apla epeidh kai mono eimaste ellhnes kai makedones, klain main...den vgainei tpt etsi....
epanalamvanw ekanes trellh maggia me to xetrypwma ths lulus ayths!!!!
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paidia den exw ta panta apo ayta pou exete grapsei parapanw...alla thelw na pw pws me stenaxwrhsan merikes apopseis pou eida....kai ksekinaw me thn parathrhsh:an kapoios den niwthei ellhnas ....na fygei apo thn ellada na allaksei xwra na papsei na exei ethnikh taytothta !
einai atoma gia ta opoia h ennoia patrida exei megalh shmasia..sygekrimena exw katagwgh apo ponto..kai thelw na pisteyw pws den eimai ethnikistria...alla patriwtissa!
einai kako dhladh na les eimai ellhnida-ellhnas kai na niwtheis yperhfaneia?
giati etsi prepei na niwthei kaneis...kai oi kriseis se ayto ton tomea pisteyw einai methodeymenes kinhseis...
oso gia aytous pou einai h to paizoun anarxikoi exw na tous pw to ekshs...an xasoun thn ethnikh tous taytothta kai genika oti mas kanei na ksexwrizoume san laos kai ethnos tote tha mazopoiithoun...ayto thelei h pagosmiopoihsh!gia ayto papsane sta sxoleia na mathainoune swsth istoria ,gia ayto den kaliergeitai pia to aisthima tou patriwtismou...gia ayto exoun katanthsei ton strato aggaria..gia ayto ta protypa ola allazoun!pseytoanarxikoi:
sas fwnazoune me xwni mesa sto ayti.....alla eseis xampari den pairnete!akoulouthiste thn nea taksh pragmatwn!alla afhste emas sthn outopia mas....mporei to kratos na mhn endiaferetai gia ton polith ...mporei na exoume mono kata epifash dhmokratia , alla ayto den einai dikaiologia gia na papsoume na symperiferomaste san ethnos!
kai eilikrina den sas kathgorw..!den ftaite eseis!den mathame swsth istoria apo ta sxoleia mas ws ofeiloume...den agaphsame ton topo mas opws oi goneis mas kai oi progonoi mas....alla mhn ta isopedwnete ola!kai to nohma tou patriwtismou mporei kaneis na to dei se atoma san ton TZONNY-4-...kai genika atomwn pou einai makria apo thn ellada!h laxtara tous..o tropos pou milane otan anaferontai se aythn ta deixnei ola!
parte mathimata!
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katarxin sorry pou to stelnw kathisterimena alla tora to diabasa to prwto keimeno tou aleksi...
re file sphongle (i telospantwn Aleksi), prwta ap ola, ena aytografo...de kanw plaka...
exeis palmo mesa sta logia sou. kai to kalytero pou exeis na kaneis esy kai oloi mas, einai oxi na syntaksoume ena keimeno klp...einai NA ANTIGRAPSOUME ta logia sou opws exoun edw mesa kai na ta steiloume PANTOU. se opoiondipote mporoume.giati mono ayta ta logia ekfrazoune tin aganaktisi sou kai tin pikra sou gia tin katastasi pou epikratei. kai pistepse me den ekfrazoune mono ti diki sou alla kai sigoura kai ti diki mou kai pithanws kai pollwn allwn. gi ayto sobara sou proteinw na to steileis sta ypourgeia klp WS EXEI! toulaxiston emena me ekfrazei apolyta.
mprabo se sena gia tin prospatheia kai PSOFOS S OLA TA ZWA. OTI KI AN EINAI AYTA
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Magkes min kollate mono se ayta.Den mporoume emeis na ta feroume ola TOYMPA gia na eyaisthitopooitoyn ayta ta @@ pou mas kivernanai.Mou ekane tromeri aisthisi ta edafi poy toys paraxwroume kathe 2 xronia.Tosa nisakia toys ta dinoyme gia na min toys tsatisoume kai xalasoume tis toso "kales" mas sxeseis!!!Ta vivlia sta sxolia poy diavazoun ta paidia mas exoun allaxtei gia na min anaferoun aytes tis alithies pou mas odigoun se xespasmata.Gia na min prokaloume kanenan toys na to pazoume malakes kai na xoreyoume tsamika!Na eimaste pita stoys alvanous kai na mas kaine tis simaies mas!Oxi re mounopanades den prokeitai na na sas lipithw oute gia tis dolofonies sas(me exereseis) oyte gia tis plimires sas.Ki as me lene BOYLGARO ston poutso mou!Ta xw parei stin Krana me ayta pou mas lene kai me tin stasi pou kratan!Den eimai Makedonas alla toylaxiston tha tin timisw tin Voria Ellada giati etsi goustarw.Vlepw kathe toso stin simproteyousa tin mizeria kai tin ftwxia(se erga) kai trellainomai giati kai ayti einai ELLADA re seis kai den tha tin poulisete kai ayti opws ta imia kai kathe allo edafos pou tous dinete MALAKES!esas kai ta tsoutsekia sas oi gyrw sas!pou exoun to thrasos na lene oti einai adikeimenoi giati ayta lete re kathe fora poy milate gia tin poli sas!TI EXW PATHEI RE?
ATHINA GAMIMENI O PAOK THEN PETHAINEI!!
p.s.XAIRETISMATA STON ALANIARI TON PASSENGER TON LARISAIO! P.A.O.K LARISSA Born to Raise Hell!
p.s2.Sorry gia to pathos mou alla kapoia pragmata me trelainoun kai eidika otan aforoun tin patrida MOU!!
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4 meres exw pou gyrisa stin patrida
me aytin tin tromeri zesti pigame gia vouties platamwna
ksekiname savvato mesimeraki kai eixa aporia na dw ayton
ton katarameno dromo twn tempwn
ta filarakia mou mou eipan oti ta pragmata einai xeirotera fetos
den argisa na to diapistwsw.....
kyriki vrady kai pairnoume ton dromo tis epistrofis
mia apostasi 40 km se 2.5 wres.......
oi ntalikes isws oi perissoteres pou exw dei se dromo....
oi astynomia na trexei panw katw gia na swsei katastaseis
afou eixe kanei pali to lathos na epistrepsei stous odigous aytwn na taksidepsoun en wra aixmis....
kai o dromos na steneuei apotoma kai gematos parakampseis..
pisw mou ena leofwrio me germanous merikoi eixan katevei katw kai koitousan me aporia ayto pou evlepan
milaw me enan kai mou leei ayto to synantaei gia prwti fora sti zwi tou kai oti prin apo meres itan stin athina kai thaumase tous kanourious dromous ekei........
stamatimenos arketi wra stin strofi pou exasan tin zwi tous ta mikra paidakia mou eirthan sto mualo oi dilwseis AYTWN..
AYTWN pou vazoun se kinduno xiliades odigous kathe mera....
AYTWN pou exoun kataferei na xwrisoun mia xwra sta duo..
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koitazontas i kanontas zaping sto kuti eida mia diafimisi i opoia einai gia tin oloimpiada kai lei <<olimpiaka erga ginontai gia mas tha meinun se emas>> kai leo ego gia toso malakes mas pernate olus tus ipoloipus pu den ntrepeste na mionete tin noimosini mas vgazontas tetoia spot giati stus monus pu tha meinun einai stin athina emeis ti?kana lifting kana pezodromio kana etsi isa isa na vgune oi mizes merikon kai na kleisun kapia stomata.mas theorite toso malakes pu to valate sta panelinias emvelias kanalia san na lete eiste malakes kai sas vazume kai tin oxia.ayto einai simera to kratos mas kai emeis oi malakes pu zume se ayto.
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Το Ίδρυμα Κόκκαλη αποτελεί κοινωφελή οργανισμό που ιδρύθηκε το 1998 από τον Έλληνα επιχειρηματία Σωκράτη Κόκκαλη. Το Ίδρυμα υπηρετεί το κοινό συμφέρον με τη συμβολή του στην προαγωγή της εκπαίδευσης, του πολιτισμού της, της ιατρικής, του αθλητισμού και της διεθνούς συνεργασίας.
http://www.kokkalisfoundation.gr/1024_768/INTRO.html (http://www.kokkalisfoundation.gr/1024_768/INTRO.html)
ALLOS ENAS LOIPON SYLLOGOS STON OPOIO H ELLHNIKH ASTYNOMIA DEN ERIXE POTE LHGMENA DAKRYGONA...ENAS SYLLOGOS APO TON OPOIO TO ELLHNIKO KRATOS DEN 8A ZHTHSEI POTE POINIKA MHTRWA TU PROEDRU KAI TWN MELWN TU...
ENAS SYLLOGOS O OPOIOS EXASFALIZEI TO MELLON XILIADWN PAIDINW (agnwstu proeleysews kai ideologias???!!!??) KA8E XRONO STA DIKA MAS XWMATA...STA XWMATA THS MAKEDONIAS MAS....
MYNHMA PSYXHS...ENAS AN8RWPOS XILIA KOMMATIA GIA MIA ELLADA DHMOKRATIKOTERH, EIRINIKOTERH KAI ELEY8ERH
http://www.kokkalisfoundation.gr/1024_768/_gr/minima.html (http://www.kokkalisfoundation.gr/1024_768/_gr/minima.html)
OSO GIA TA MELH TU SYLLOGU...kozarete...
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"am pws!!! diafhmise me kai oso gia to thgani-tefal, 8a EINAI STHN WRA TU ETOIMO...kai 8a sto dwsw kai me 50 atokes doseis...tsampa pragma...vgaze foto esy!!!"
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o Mr. Sorry ths evrwphs pu to fevruario dhlwne:"kaneis den mporei na akumphsei ayto to 8eareto an8rwpo k. Kok.....as stamathsun loipon oloi aytoi na SYKOFANTUN!!!"
apo tote megalwnei kai allo h koilia tu!!!
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apo koilies sxizun oloi e??? dhlwsh tu Mr. Anenerges Metoxes
"Ο Υπουργός Πολιτισμού, αφού ευχαρίστησε και συνεχάρη το Ίδρυμα Κόκκαλη για την δραστηριότητά του υπογράμμισε τη συγκυρία της ολοκλήρωσης της μελέτης με την οικονομική κρίση στο χώρο του ποδοσφαίρου. Αυτή είπε αποτελεί μια πολύ καλή ευκαιρία για την αντιμετώπιση του προβλήματος με ορθολογικό τρόπο και ψυχραιμία." olo to kolpo edw http://www.kokkalisfoundation.gr/1024_768/_gr/news.html (http://www.kokkalisfoundation.gr/1024_768/_gr/news.html)
OSO GIA TO DIOIKITIKO SYMVULIO, TO DIEPEI ENAS AERAS DHMOKRATIKOS, ME PLURALISMO KAI DIKAIWMA STH SYMMETOXH, STHN AMFISVHTHSH KAI STON ANTILOGO...SE VASIKES ENNOIES THS DHMOKRATIAS...
http://www.kokkalisfoundation.gr/1024_768/_gr/ds.html (http://www.kokkalisfoundation.gr/1024_768/_gr/ds.html)
AX!! R ELLADITSA...PAXYNES!!!
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gia osus lene, skeftonte h estw kapote xestomisan na pune oti o PAOK (sta @@ mas ti ekane o koreaths), o PAOK einai sto arma tu kokkalh GIA AYTUS TRELENOMAI PIO POLY...
SKATA STO STOMA TUS...KATEVATA NA EINAI KAI AMASHTA...KAI GIA XEDIPSASMA TA KATURA MAS!!!
ante giati se ayto to kratos exun arxisei na epizun kai na ginonte megaloi kai tranoi oi pusthdes...kai den milaw gia thn agglia...opu NAI einai alh8eia h pustia tu andra exei kyriepsei ta panta (sxedon, mh trela8ume ki'olas!!! >:()...
egw milaw gia to kratos ths elladas...sto kratos ayto sto opoio yperisxyun oi pusthdes...oi xeiroteroi pusthdes...aytoi pu einai skatopsyxoi kai h rufiania kai h pustia einai to proterhma tus...
alla, POIO KRATOS GAMW TH TRELLA MU......POIO????
PREPEI NA KATALAVUME OTI GIA ALLH MIA FORA O PAOK APOTELEI KOINWNIKO FAINOMENO KAI PROSFEREI ERGO STH POLH THS 8ESSALONIKHS...palia me legan "AN DEN YPHRXE O PAOK KA8E FORA PU 8A EPAIZE A8HNAIKH OMADA EDW PANW 8A KAIGOTAN+8A KATASTREFOTAN H POLH!!"..ena eidos aytoamynas mesa apo ta ftera tu PAOK mas...
twra pia to teleytaio propyrgio prin pesun ta panta sta xeria enos an8rwpu einai o PAOK mas...o PAOK mas apenanti sth lailapa tu kokkalh...
se ayth th xwra pu ta panta exagorasthkan kai puliunte se times eykairias, me doseis-xarisma gia ta epomena 50 xronia...
SE AYTH TH PUTANA TH XWRA LOIPON TO MONO PU DEN EXEI EXAGWRASEI O EN LOGW KYRIOS KAI O MONOS PU ANTISTEKETAI EINAI O APLOS PAOKTZHS...O TIMHMENOS LAOS TU P.A.O.K.
pu oso ton tsigglizete kai ton zalizete ta @@ 8a ton vriskete synexeia mprosta sas...
ante parte to xampari oloi eseis me ta mikrofwna sto laryggi kai th pena vuthgmenh sto vurko kai sth lasph....
to xerete kai oi idioi...
PAOK TILL I DIE
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PAOK TILL I DIE
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@shpongle/sinonomate
erikses vomva megatonon milame tora enas mpaglamas dimosiografos den mporei na ta kanei protoselido na gustarume ? enas gamo tin trela mu.
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AYTO HTAN KAPOTE..
KAI EINAI AKOMA MESA MAS TO KRATOS THS MEGALHS ELLADAS
http://philippos.mpa.gr/gr/other/1453/ (http://philippos.mpa.gr/gr/other/1453/)
BYZANTIO...M.ASIA...IMVROS/TENEDOS...PONTOS...MAKEDONIA...KYPROS...
AKRWTHRIASMENH ELLADA...
H POLH EALW...O P.A.O.K. POTE!!!
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Etoimazoume site-apandhsh sto site tou voulgarou filou mas
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lipon aderfia etimaste to site parte kai ena kalo onoma kai tha sas kano to hosting dorean.
(Alla me pragmatika stoixeia kai xoris vrisies klp)
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Esteila kai egw mail sto ypourgeio paideias kai sto makedonias thrakis.. Bravo re paixti shpongle4..
PAOK PANTOU KAI PANTA!
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AHDIA!!!!SIXAMA!!APORW PWS OI MALAKES TOU KRATOUS POU ROUFANE TA LEFTA MAS DEN KANOUN TIPOTA???
pantws paidia opws to eipe kai enas allos paixtis i xrisi twn ellinikwn apo auton ton typo einai aristi kai einai ''TROMAKTIKO'' auto....prwsopika ypopsiazomai diafora gia tin KATAGWGH autou tou typou...
SPONGLE BRAVO SOU,EISAI PALIKAROS.
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Ti na po...
Pantos xairomai pou andidrate..!
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simera ida idisis ke ida sigekrimena ton karamali me ton prothipourgo tis germanias pou to gourouni tou lei tris fotes makedonia ke aftos xazogelouse
oli poulimeni gourounia alites den eksero afton olous rezili
andi na sikothi ke na pi pia makedonia skopia ke na figi
psofi flori oli tous
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Αλβανοί πολίτες βουλγαρικής εθνικής καταγωγής
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Πέμπτη, 9 Ιουνίου 2005 22:23
Τελευταία Ενημέρωση : 09/06/2005 22:48
Πριν λίγες μέρες, στο ιδιωτικό τηλεοπτικό κανάλι KLAN, ο Βούλγαρος πρόξενος στα Τίρανα ανακοίνωσε ότι οι Αλβανοί πολίτες βουλγαρικής εθνικής καταγωγής μπορούν να πάρουν τη βουλγαρική υπηκοότητα χωρίς να είναι υποχρεωμένοι να αφήσουν την αλβανική υπηκοότητα. Πρόσθεσε ακόμα ότι ήδη υπάρχουν μερικές εκατοντάδες αιτήσεις Αλβανών υπηκόων που ζητούν ως δεύτερη υπηκοότητα τη Βουλγαρική.
Είχε προηγηθεί είδηση, επίσης από τη Βουλγαρική πρεσβεία, στα Τίρανα, που ισχυριζόταν ότι στην Αλβανία υπάρχει βουλγαρική μειονότητα η οποία ανέρχεται σε 60 χιλιάδες.
Η αλβανική εφημερίδα "SOT" γράφει ότι οι ισχυρισμοί της Βουλγαρίας, για βουλγαρική μειονότητα στην Αλβανία, αφορούν τον ίδιο πληθυσμό που διεκδικεί ως "μακεδονική μειονότητα" και η ΠΓΔΜ.
Η ίδια εφημερίδα αναφέρει ότι στα τελωνεία μεταξύ Αλβανίας και ΠΓΔΜ οι αλβανικές αρχές έχουν κατάσχει χάρτες της "Μεγάλης Βουλγαρίας". Σε έναν από τους χάρτες, που η εφημερίδα δημοσιεύει, διεκδικούνται τα μισά εδάφη της σημερινής Αλβανίας, καθώς και ελληνικά εδάφη.
ΒΛΕΠΕΤΕ ΤΙ ΓΙΝΕΤΕ ΚΟΛΟΑΘΗΝΑΙΟΙ ΣΥΝΕΧΙΣΤΕ ΝΑ ΜΑς ΛΕΤΕ ΒΟΥΛΓΑΡΟΥΣ ΗΔΗ ΑΡΧΙΣΑΝ ΟΙ ΒΟΥΛΓΑΡΟΙ ΝΑ ΔΙΕΚΔΙΚΟΥΝ ΑΠΟ
ΑΛΒΑΝΙΑ ΚΑΙ ΘΑ ΣΥΝΕΧΙΣΟΥΝ ΜΕ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΤΑ ΣΚΟΠΙΑ ΤΑ ΘΕΩΡΟΥΝ ΗΔΗ ΔΙΚΑ ΤΟΥΣ ΒΟΥΛΓΑΡΟΙ ΛΕΕΙ ΕΙΝΑΙ...................
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ΒΛΕΠΕΤΕ ΤΙ ΓΙΝΕΤΕ ΚΟΛΟΑΘΗΝΑΙΟΙ ΣΥΝΕΧΙΣΤΕ ΝΑ ΜΑς ΛΕΤΕ ΒΟΥΛΓΑΡΟΥΣ ΗΔΗ ΑΡΧΙΣΑΝ ΟΙ ΒΟΥΛΓΑΡΟΙ ΝΑ ΔΙΕΚΔΙΚΟΥΝ ΑΠΟ
ΑΛΒΑΝΙΑ ΚΑΙ ΘΑ ΣΥΝΕΧΙΣΟΥΝ ΜΕ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΤΑ ΣΚΟΠΙΑ ΤΑ ΘΕΩΡΟΥΝ ΗΔΗ ΔΙΚΑ ΤΟΥΣ ΒΟΥΛΓΑΡΟΙ ΛΕΕΙ ΕΙΝΑΙ...................
φίλε Makptol μην θύγεις το θέμα αυτό γιατί θα ενοχληθούν οι κουλτουριαραίοι και θα σε φωνάζουν φασίστα...
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AIDIA einai to ligotero pou mporoume na poume!! Exo steilei mail sto ypourgeio exoterikon edo kai poly kairo alla i apantisi kamia. Malista tora de mporo na vro kai to mail tou ypourgeiou sto site gia na xanasteilo rotontas an auto to site pou propagandizei me ton pio aidiastiko , arrostimeno kai anistorito tropo kata tis xoras mas einai nomimo!!!! De mporei na einai nomimo!! Exoume autous , pou milane kai gia gkrizous lukous kai oti ta 2 palikaria stin Kypro iropoiithikan xoris logo!!!!!!!!!! Akouste re tous xeftilismenous ti lene vrizontas kai katapatontas tin mnimi iroon!!!!! Aidia , elpizo na to vroun mprosta tous auta ta mpastardakia . Alla kapoia stigmi otan tha teleiosei i xounta tis pseutokoultouras oloi autoi tha pane spiti tous kai poly pio makria
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Ta pramata einai apla,kai min to theorisete oti to leo gia plaka auto.Den thelei poli,stelneis kamia 5-6000 strato,eidikes dinameis pou einai kavlomenoi autoi kiolas, se skopia kai voulgaria,ta afanizeis ws ethni kai teliose i ipothesi.Ego auto tha ekana.Den antexo na akouo kai na vlepo tetoia pramata.
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Ta pramata einai apla,kai min to theorisete oti to leo gia plaka auto.Den thelei poli,stelneis kamia 5-6000 strato,eidikes dinameis pou einai kavlomenoi autoi kiolas, se skopia kai voulgaria,ta afanizeis ws ethni kai teliose i ipothesi.Ego auto tha ekana.Den antexo na akouo kai na vlepo tetoia pramata.
Kala tha itan na itan toso apla ta pragmata file alla den einai kai xereis kirios giati den einai?
giati..........big brother is watching...........distihos!
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Σε αυτή τη χώρα όλοι έχουν δικαιώματα εκτός απο τους Έλληνες, οι αλβανοί διεκδικούν σχεδόν επίσημα πλέον τη μισή Ήπειρο, οι σκοπιανοί τη μισή Μακεδονία και το όνομα που είναι χιλιάδες χρόνια Ελληνικό, οι βούλγαροι πάντα είχαν και έχουν βλέψεις για έξοδο στο Αιγαίο, οι τούρκοι μιλάνε για τη Θράκη και το μισό Αιγαίο. Ο πατριωτισμός έχει καταντήσει απαράδεκτο γεγονός. Όπως λέει και ο alexisv ο μεγάλος αδερφός μας παρατηρεί και μας επιβάλει αυτά που θέλει, μήπως ήρθε η ώρα να ξυπνήσουμε ;;;
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Σε αυτή τη χώρα όλοι έχουν δικαιώματα εκτός απο τους Έλληνες, οι αλβανοί διεκδικούν σχεδόν επίσημα πλέον τη μισή Ήπειρο, οι σκοπιανοί τη μισή Μακεδονία και το όνομα που είναι χιλιάδες χρόνια Ελληνικό, οι βούλγαροι πάντα είχαν και έχουν βλέψεις για έξοδο στο Αιγαίο, οι τούρκοι μιλάνε για τη Θράκη και το μισό Αιγαίο. Ο πατριωτισμός έχει καταντήσει απαράδεκτο γεγονός. Όπως λέει και ο alexisv ο μεγάλος αδερφός μας παρατηρεί και μας επιβάλει αυτά που θέλει, μήπως ήρθε η ώρα να ξυπνήσουμε ;;;
Tsakalaki exeis apolyto dikio alla dystyxos den tolmame na poume kati patriotiko stin Ellada mas giati theoroumaste ethnikiste , fasistes , mexri kai neonazi . Diladi milame gia to geloio tou pragmatos!! Alla poios na xesikothei file mou ? Oi volemenoi tou P.A.SO.K i mipos autoi tis N.D pou perimenoun tora na voleutoun ?? Naxesikothei i neolaia ? Poia neolaia ? Auti pou mesa sta panepistimia exei tin afisa tou tse , tou arafat i opoiou allou megalou epanastati ektos vevaia ton Ellinon giati autoi theorountai ethnikistes! I neolaia pou diamartyretai gia Irak , Afganistan kai Kouva alla den katevainei gia tin Kypro mas giati tha theorithoun fasistes???? Milame diladi gia asteiotites . Giauto sou leo file mou dyskola ta pragmata an den allaxei i nootropia mas . Dystyxos pisteuo oti auti i genia stin opoia aniko ki ego xathike giati voleutike se auta pou tous edose i proigoumeni i opoia omos palepse gia na ta kerdisei!!
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ANTIDRASTE MAGKES!! MPOROUME NA STEILOUME AYTA TA 2 SITE SE OLA TA FORUM TA OPOIA XEROUME KAI NA TA DIADOSOUME GIA NA MATHEYTEI!! KAPOIA TETOIA PERNANE YPOGEIA KAI META VRISKOMASTE PRO EKPLIXEON. DIADOSTE TA KAI STEILTE KAI DIAMARTYRIA KAI STA YPOURGEIA!! EGO EXO IDI STEILEI STO YPOYRGEIO EXOTERIKON. STEILTE OLOI GIA NA KANOUME DOULEIA!! GIA TI MAKEDONIA MAS MILAME GIA NA MPOROUME SE 10 XRONIA NA LEME MAKEDONIA KAI NA MIN ENNOOYME KAPOIOUS SLAVOFONOYS!! E RE POY FTASAME NA YPERASPIZOMASTE TA KEKTIMENA XILIADON XRONON!!!
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TI GEINETE REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8A FRIKAROUMAI TELIOS ME AYTA POU DIABAZOUMAI!!!!!!!!! TO MONO POU SKEFTOMAI KAI HREMO EINAI OTI O KA8E MALAKAS MPWREI NA GRAFEI OTI 8ELEI........ALLA AN AYRIO TO PAIDI MOU TA DIABASI OLA AYTA KAI ME RWTHSH;TI 8A TO PW????? PROPAGANDA PAIDI MOU; kai pou einai to kratos na diagrapsi; ayta ta seit kykloforoun apo elliniko edafos apo oti katalaba. KANTE KATI OSI GNWRIZETE NA DIAXIRIZESTE KALA TO DIADYKTIO AYTA TA SEIT PREPEI NA POLEMI8OUN NA EKSAFANISTOUN......
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Poooooo..... exo frikarei!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eidika ekei pou pianei sto bromiko stomataki tou tis metonomasies apo to Boulgariko sto Elliniko!!!! 8a mas trelanei teleios o typakos!!!!
http://www.geocities.com/maknames/index.html
As tou eksigisei kapoios eidika gia to ARSENI, opou leei oti onomastike apo to Arsen se Arseni, oti i eyriteri perioxi onomazotan etsi apo paliotera (pro-boulgarikis epoxis)!!!
...Kai poios mou leei emena oti den proerxete apo tin leksi ARSIS pou simainei sta arxaia ellinika askisis gymnastikis, opos p.x. i leksi "arsis baron", kai opou oi MAKEDONES eixan ekei ta "GYMNASTARIA" tous efoson einai sxedon dipla stin proti proteyoussa ton Makedonon tin PELLA ...? ? ? Diladi ean ekei gymnazotan o M. Aleksandros kai oi progonoi mas oi MAKEDONES, giati na mi xrisimopoiousan kapoia kseniki leksi , esto Boulgariki , i opoia na simaine ayto akribos to pragma!!!! Kai stin teliki as mas eksigisi, i Boulgarikes pote pro'i'l8an kai ti simainoun...? ? ? Ti simainei diladi RE "KYRIE OTI'NA'NAI" i leksi ARSEN sta Boulgarika. . .? ? ? Kai giati epeleksan aytin tin onomasia gia tin sigekrimeni topo8esia? ? ?
Pragmatika eimai ekso apo ta rouxa , molis to anakalipsa to sigekrimeno topic, kai sigoura 8a tin psakso kalitera, gia na ton ksaposteilo ayton ton xaxa!!!
Eidika antikrizontas se foto ton xarti tou N. Pellis kai apo kato akoma kai to xorio mou , to Arseni!
Pali kala pou den prospa8ei na mas peisei oti i proteyousa tis MAKEDONIAS eitan i Pellov kai oxi i PELLA!!!!!
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Ta pramata einai apla,kai min to theorisete oti to leo gia plaka auto.Den thelei poli,stelneis kamia 5-6000 strato,eidikes dinameis pou einai kavlomenoi autoi kiolas, se skopia kai voulgaria,ta afanizeis ws ethni kai teliose i ipothesi.Ego auto tha ekana.Den antexo na akouo kai na vlepo tetoia pramata.
mpravo re moderators......
ok otan kapoios vevea ksekinaei antilogo diavazontas tetoia pragmata....eseis sfirate adiafora kai lete na min mplekoume paok kai politiki.....
oso gia to thema tis makedonias kai to kata poso einai elliniki i voulgariki i oti allo tha epaneltho sintoma me epixeirmata ......
elpizo na tiro mexri stigmis tous kanones tou forum kai na min fao kana kick mono kai mono epidi exo diaforetiki apopsi apo autin ton ethnikofronon/***************** xriston tou forum pou xrisimopoioun kat'epanalipsi prosvlitiki ratsistiki ksenofoviki kai gemato vrisies kai eironies glossa....
gia tin ora min fovaste kai min pesete na min me fate, ego den tha statho empodio na onomasete opos eseis thelete tin macedonia.....
i apopsi mou omos einai pos oi pragmatikoi sas """exthroi""" den exoun oute ethnosima oute simaies oute ideodi......milaei to xrima kai ta megalo simferonta.......ton ligon kai oxi ton laon ton valakanion......
ego gia tin ora den exo na xoriso kamia gi kai kamia thalassa me kanenan.....auta pou pisteuo den koitao na ta stoumposo se kanenos to mialo eite me stratous eite me propagandes eite me alla mesa........
sas euxomai na min thrinisete dikous sas anthropous logo autis tis exthras pou kapioi kseroun poli kala tis methodous pos na tin ipothalptoun kai na tin sintiroun......
epete sinexeia.....
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και σας τα έλεγα εγώ φίλοι. Είναι δυνατόν να δυσανασχετήσει κανείς με τα καμώματα των φίλων και γειτόνων μας χωρίς να δεχθεί τον χαρακτηρισμό ρατσιστής???
Μόνο για τους κοινούς αγώνες των συντρόφων μας στα σοκάκια του Παρισιού πρέπει να ενδιαφερόμαστε...Οι πακιστανοί και κογκολέζοι συμπολίτες μας (με ή χωρίς άδεια εργασίας) έχουν ανάγκη την υποστήριξή μας για να βελτιώσουν τις συνθήκες εργασίας στην χώρα στην οποία μπήκαν χωρίς να ρωτήσουν κανέναν!!!
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Kala re paides, pate kala kai oi dyo.... ? ? ?
Ti sxesi exei to ena me to allo ? ? ?
Re @no_leader, ti stoixeia na psakseis kai na breis ? ? Na apodeiksei ti...... ? ? ? Oti pragmati oi Boulagroi eitan aneka8en stin Makedonia (...akou ekei macedonia :tikitaka: ) kai o M.Aleksandros eitan Italos... ? ? ? (Akou ekei to onoma tou, proerxete apo Latiniki leksi kai i eley8eri metafrasi tou einai Iskanter!!) Mipos Iskanter ton elegan oi Arabes kai genika ola ta barbarika fila , opou den mporousan na proferoun ton onoma Aleksandros ? ? ? ?)
Ki esy re @imago (an kai eimaste kontoxorianoi ;) ) , ti sxesoi exoun ta dikaiomata ton pakistanon kai ton mogolezon , pou safos kai den prepei na katapati8oun , me tous ELLINES sygrafeis ton en logo selidon sto Inetrnet ..... ? ? ? Giati gia an8ropous (gia na mi xaraktiriso kamia baria leksi) pou to PAIZOUN ELLINES prokeite!!!! De fobamai oute tous mogolezous oute tous pakistanous mipos mou fane tin douleia kai se merika xronia milao alabournezika stin Ellada! FOBAME TOUS IDIOUS TOUS ELLINES POU EXOUN KSEPOULISEI NISIA, ETAIRIES, SYMBOLA, ONOMASIES, ONOMASIES OLOKLIRON PERIFEREION .....KAI SE LIGO KAIRO 8A KSEPOULISOUN KAI THN IDIA TOUS THN ISTORIA!!!!!
(To kalitero paradeigma , gia na doune merikoi ti esti a8ina kai propagantismos! Pou nomizane mexri prin ligo kairo oti KAI oi a8inaioi fonazane "H MAKEDONIA EINAI ELLINIKH" !!!! )
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Ta pramata einai apla,kai min to theorisete oti to leo gia plaka auto.Den thelei poli,stelneis kamia 5-6000 strato,eidikes dinameis pou einai kavlomenoi autoi kiolas, se skopia kai voulgaria,ta afanizeis ws ethni kai teliose i ipothesi.Ego auto tha ekana.Den antexo na akouo kai na vlepo tetoia pramata.
mpravo re moderators......
ok otan kapoios vevea ksekinaei antilogo diavazontas tetoia pragmata....eseis sfirate adiafora kai lete na min mplekoume paok kai politiki.....
oso gia to thema tis makedonias kai to kata poso einai elliniki i voulgariki i oti allo tha epaneltho sintoma me epixeirmata ......
elpizo na tiro mexri stigmis tous kanones tou forum kai na min fao kana kick mono kai mono epidi exo diaforetiki apopsi apo autin ton ethnikofronon/******************* xriston tou forum pou xrisimopoioun kat'epanalipsi prosvlitiki ratsistiki ksenofoviki kai gemato vrisies kai eironies glossa....
gia tin ora min fovaste kai min pesete na min me fate, ego den tha statho empodio na onomasete opos eseis thelete tin macedonia.....
i apopsi mou omos einai pos oi pragmatikoi sas """exthroi""" den exoun oute ethnosima oute simaies oute ideodi......milaei to xrima kai ta megalo simferonta.......ton ligon kai oxi ton laon ton valakanion......
ego gia tin ora den exo na xoriso kamia gi kai kamia thalassa me kanenan.....auta pou pisteuo den koitao na ta stoumposo se kanenos to mialo eite me stratous eite me propagandes eite me alla mesa........
sas euxomai na min thrinisete dikous sas anthropous logo autis tis exthras pou kapioi kseroun poli kala tis methodous pos na tin ipothalptoun kai na tin sintiroun......
epete sinexeia.....
WRAIA re megale entaksi...(blepw me ayta pou exeis grapsei oti eisai PAOK apo tin athina) den kanoumai tipota den brizoumai kanenan. 8a se rwthsw kati kai an 8eleis apantas oPAOK ti symbolizi jia sena; exei na kanei mono me mpalitsa; i kai me XAMENES PATRIDES?
KAI kati akoma PERIMENW NA DW TI SYNEXEIA EPETE ;)
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prwta mpainontas sto site pou ypedeikse o @Iron Eagle kai psaxnontas to ligo(exei polu gelio telika auth h propaganda) 8elw na tonisw stous empneustes tou oti kai edw sta giannena exoume xwria me slavika onomata(metsovo,terovo k.a).mhpws yparxoun ki edw dikaiwmata twn slavwn;lew mhpws giati oi alvanoi pleon ki epishma mas zhtane pisw ta edafh tous.na apofasisoume dhladh pou 8a ta dwsoume.gelasa epishs poly ekei pou grafoune gia thn epinohsh tou kyrilikoy alfavhtou.telika polla psemata didaxthkame sto sxoleio.akou ekei ellhnes o kyrillos kai o me8odios.alla ekei pou den krath8hka psaxnontas ligo parapanw htan otan ema8a oti o aleksandros ais8anotan illyrios(apla gia na shmeiwsw illyrios den shmainei ki arxaios alvanos) ki oti to onoma tou proerxetai apo ta arxaia alvanika(edw gelame pio poly mias kai ta alvanika einai ena krama tourkikwn,slavikwn kai latinikwn).to oti h olympiada katagotane apo tous molosous(fylh pou katoikouse paralimnia se mia perioxh pou legetai passarwnas konta sta shmerina giannena)einai epishs megalo "psema".
P.S @no leader egw,mazi sou,na mhn asxoloumai me tetoia.autoi me tous opoious esy den exeis na xwriseis tipota giati asxolountai;perimenw ta stoixeia sou gia na vgalw symperasmata paroti eimai ratsisths ki ethnikofrwn.
P.S2 den kserw an exei shmasia pantws egw edw sta giannena pou zw ais8anomai ellhnas.to ti eimai egw loipon paizei kana rolo h 8a mas diwksoun apo edw opws diwksane kai tous servous tou kossovou;
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P.S @no leader egw,mazi sou,na mhn asxoloumai me tetoia.autoi me tous opoious esy den exeis na xwriseis tipota giati asxolountai;perimenw ta stoixeia sou gia na vgalw symperasmata paroti eimai ratsisths ki ethnikofrwn.
to oti den eimai ratsistis file mou den simanei oti eimai anthelinas, oute simainei oti eimai alvanofilos.....oute tin exo dei iperaspistis kanenos omoideati allis ethnotitas pou fonazei kai kanei tin diki tou propaganda......
den goustaro omos gia xari auton (aneksartitou katagogis k.t.l.) ,pou oi perissoteroi einai kathodigoumenoi, mias kai ta simferonta kai ta lefta einai polla (eidikotera gia tin perioxi tis macedonias kai tou aigaiou), na tin plironoun oi apantaxou meionotites/metanastes......kai na akougontai apo ton kosmo eis to onoma tis agapis gia tin patrida......sxolia tipou "na paroume 5 - 6 xiliades kai na pame na tous fame.....na tous vgaloume apo ton xarti" kai alla tetoia oraia.....
kata ta alla to na sizitame istorika gegonota opos gia to ti paizei me tin istoria tis macedonias kai allon loipon xoris famfares varigdoupa sxoleia fanatismous kai alla tetoia to vrisko poli kalo akoma kai an den simfonoumai........
moderators......elpizo na min dimiourgisa kana provlima pali.......
tha epaneltho me ta tis macedonias.....(mas,sas,tous,)......xaire o xaire
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oxi re file oute egw eimai ratsisths,den 8ewrw ton eauto mou anwtero apo kapoion allo eite autos o allos einai alvanos eite einai tsigganos.de me endiaferei.opws kai de me endiaferei an prin apo 16 genies o progonos mou htan portogalos h souhdos.
aplws exw didaxtei kapoia pragmata pou vgazoun nohma(gia th dikia mou krish panta) enw tautoxrona akouw 8ewries pou den exoun vash kai synoxh.den se eipa an8ellhna h alvanofilo.apla se rwtaw giati kapoioi asxolountai me pragmata ta opoia apla fanatizoun kai eksyphretoun symferonta.kai apo oti kserw synh8ws den einai ellhnes.
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φίλε Γιαννιώτη (και συμπατριώτη) υπάρχει όπως βλέπεις κατανόηση αλλά δεν πρέπει να ασχολείσαι με το μειονοτικό που προσπαθούν να ανακινήσουν οι φίλοι μας αλβανοί, γιατί θα αισθανθούν άβολα οι πάσης φύσεως μειονότητες που έχουμε συσσωρεύσει...
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gia tin ora min fovaste kai min pesete na min me fate, ego den tha statho empodio na onomasete opos eseis thelete tin macedonia.....
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to oti den eimai ratsistis file mou den simanei oti eimai anthelinas, oute simainei oti eimai alvanofilos.....oute tin exo dei iperaspistis kanenos omoideati allis ethnotitas pou fonazei kai kanei tin diki tou propaganda......
den goustaro omos gia xari auton (aneksartitou katagogis k.t.l.) ,pou oi perissoteroi einai kathodigoumenoi, mias kai ta simferonta kai ta lefta einai polla (eidikotera gia tin perioxi tis macedonias kai tou aigaiou), na tin plironoun oi apantaxou meionotites/metanastes......kai na akougontai apo ton kosmo eis to onoma tis agapis gia tin patrida......sxolia tipou "na paroume 5 - 6 xiliades kai na pame na tous fame.....na tous vgaloume apo ton xarti" kai alla tetoia oraia.....
kata ta alla to na sizitame istorika gegonota opos gia to ti paizei me tin istoria tis macedonias kai allon loipon xoris famfares varigdoupa sxoleia fanatismous kai alla tetoia to vrisko poli kalo akoma kai an den simfonoumai........
moderators......elpizo na min dimiourgisa kana provlima pali.......
tha epaneltho me ta tis macedonias.....(mas,sas,tous,)......xaire o xaire
Loipon, ean 8eleis na sinexisoume ton dialogo se "ipoio klima" kopse ayto to yfaki me tin leksi " M a k e d o n i a "
Grapsto sta Ellinika opos to grafo pio pano (diladi me "k") , giati pisteyo oti eimaste se ELLINIKO FORUM kai katalabenoume oloi ELLINIKA , (AKOMA kai emeis edo pano stin MAKEDONIA) !!!!!
H antistoixi slabiki leksi den bo'i'8aei pisteyo kanenan, mono tous geitones!!!!
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siggnomi paidia den eixa kamia prothesi na sas prosvalo me tin grafi mou......makedonia maxedonia μακεδονία.....opos thelete....ego den exo kanena provlima...
esi imago exeis katantisi grafikos.....ante se kamia propaganda tou karatzaferi tora pou dilonei kai ipopsifios...
den eimai aristeros oute aristeristis oute anarhikos.......ean esena se voleuoun autes oi tampeles gia na pouliseis tin propaganda sou dikaioma sou....
loipon peri μακεδονιας:
i makedonia einai geografiki perioxi me asafi oria* kai den anikei oute anike pote apokleistika sto elliniko kratos. kata tin diarkeia ton valkanikon polemon opou ta valkanika krati moirazontan ta edafi tis ipo katareusi othomanikis autokratoreias ena meros tis kataktithike apo tin ellada ena apo tin servia kai ena apo tin voulgaria me koini simfonia kai ton trion xoron.......
*i euriteri perioxi tis makedonias (diladi auti pou perilamvanei kai tin elliniki kai tin perioxi tis ΠΓΔΜ kai ena kommati tis voulgarias meta thn katareusi tis autokratorias tou mega alexander pernouse apo mia poliethniki autokratoria stin alli (romaiki vizantini othomaniki) kai oi en logo autokratores den eixan kanenan logo na kathorisoun ta oria autis tis perioxis opos kai opoiasdipote allis entos tis epikrateias tous....
mexri edo kala???
an exete kati allo na protaksete pano sto thema tis perioxis autis euxaristos na to diavaso......kai na to sizitisoume....
epete sinexeia....siga siga na katalavenoume oloi.....kai an iparxei kati pou den katalavenoume euxaristos na to sizitisoume....
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..... kai den anikei oute anike pote apokleistika sto elliniko kratos.
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Me tin diki sou panta logiki....
Kai ......" Ellada " mporo ego na xaraktiriso mia geografiki perixo giro apo to aigaio , me asafi oria , pou pote den anike A P O K L E I S T I K A , olokliro to tmima tis, sto Elliniko kratos, pou episis perase apo tin mia aytokratoria stin epomeni, (romaiki, vizantini, othomaniki, opos les esy, kai pros8eto ego .....kai MAKEDONIKH)!!!
Opote symfona panta me tin diki sou logiki, ELLADA kai ELLINES mporoun na xaraktiristoun osoi patane Ellinika edafi, p.x. (apo anatolika pros dytika: Sikelia / Italias, Agioi Saranta / Albanias, Geygeli / Skopion,
an. 8raki / Tourkias, Smyrni / Tourkias, kai genikotera ola ta paralia tis M.Asias opos kai Alexandria / Aigyptou!!!)
Opote kapoia stigmi (asxetos an kai eidi exei ginei KAI ayto) , arxisoun aytoi na diekdikoune onomasies kai SYMBOLA Ellinika, den prepei na mas fanei parakseno, giati stin ousia, KAI aytoi ais8anonte Ellines, epeidi akribos , kapote milousan kai eftanan os ekei ta Ellinika "Sinora"!!!
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auta pou egrapsa den einai ....logiki MOU.....einai istorika stoixeia pou mou einai ligo diskolo na vgaino kai na kano ipotheseis tipou "gia mena einai auto", "gia sena einai ekeino"....
den ksero an theloun i dikdikoun kapioi tin onomasia ellinas ή ellada alla sigoura se kapoia fasi tis istorias sta edafi pou onomazontai ellinika kai exoun oriothetithjei opos exoun .....katoikouse pollis laos me diaforetikes koultoures ithi ethima glossa kai loipa....
omos auto pou egine istorika einai to eksis....
ta krati meta apo auto to moirasma tis en logo perioxis....kanane oti mporousan gia na omogenopoiisoun tous laous pou eixe o kathenas apo tin meria tou....entos sinoron tou diladi....kai auto opos mporeis na katalaveis den egine eirinika.....
an erxotan se sena kapoios kai sou elege tha milas etsi , ta paidia sou tha pigainoun se tade sxoleia kai den tha tragoudas ta paradosiaka sou ti tha kanes?
anagkazontan etsi kosmos na metanasteusei xoris na rotithoun apo tin "mama" patrida....
kai simantiko rolo se auto epekse i egkatastasi (me tin voitheia panta tou ellinikou kratous) enos megalou arithmou mikrasiaton meta tin apotixia tis ekstrateias tis ellados stin tourkia stis arxes to 20ies (sic).....
sou leei mipos kati to teleuteo.....
den kano ipotheseis oute ta leo simfona me tin diki mou logiki.....o pateras mou einai apo tin edessa kai pistepse me ta ksero apo proto xeri......
poios petaske poion ekso apo to spiti tou loipon>? poios kapileutike poia ektasikai poia onomasia?.....
i ethnopreza vlaptei sovara to mialo....
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loipon peri μακεδονιας:
i makedonia einai geografiki perioxi me asafi oria* kai den anikei oute anike pote apokleistika sto elliniko kratos. kata tin diarkeia ton valkanikon polemon opou ta valkanika krati moirazontan ta edafi tis ipo katareusi othomanikis autokratoreias ena meros tis kataktithike apo tin ellada ena apo tin servia kai ena apo tin voulgaria me koini simfonia kai ton trion xoron.......
*i euriteri perioxi tis makedonias (diladi auti pou perilamvanei kai tin elliniki kai tin perioxi tis ΠΓΔΜ kai ena kommati tis voulgarias meta thn katareusi tis autokratorias tou mega alexander pernouse apo mia poliethniki autokratoria stin alli (romaiki vizantini othomaniki) kai oi en logo autokratores den eixan kanenan logo na kathorisoun ta oria autis tis perioxis opos kai opoiasdipote allis entos tis epikrateias tous....
ilikrina file no leaders me echis berdepsi!!! kalo to oti thes na diksis mia alli apopsi ke ime anichtos se kathe syzitisi alla me tetia anistorita,allilosigroumena pramata pou les den me pithis katholou.den ime akreos oute karatzaferikos,ethnikopliktos ktl giati sinithos etsi andidrane simera se kapion pou iperaspizet ta pistevo tou pou sinadoun ke me ta pistevo tis opia patridos tou idieteris ke mi.episi afou les oti milas me istorika gegonota parkalo na mas parathesis istorikes piges apo sovarous istorikous siggrafeis giati ego den lamvano sovara ipopsi ta propagandistika kimenakia ton gitonon mas pou mono skopo echoun ochi na vlapsoun tin ellada alla na epitichun tin ethniki tous sispirosi,taftotita ktl. o noon noeite ke gia na exigiso mono ligo den ine ticheo oti osou echoun megaloideatismous ke vlepsis se ellinika edafi aftin tin stigmi den dianioun ke tin kaliteri tous periodo.oi tourki apo tin mia san mia polypolitismiki (ex anaggis vevea) kinotita me tin dimiourgia enos megalou kakou echtrou pou akoui sto onoma Ellas ke sispironi oles aftes tis mazes pou den echun ke tin aparetiti morfosi oste na boresoun na to apofygoun ke dimiourgi tin istoria tis klevondas tin istoria tou gitona.stin tourkia lipon zoune pano apo 7 polyarithmes fyles ,katalavenoun oli ti tha gini an archisi kathemia na diekdiki apo eki ke ochi apo ellada.ta skopja pali ine ena neosistato kratos pou vgike apo to pouthena,den iparchi oute istorika oute politismika,me leptes issoropies plythismiaka slavi ,elline,alvani-alvanofoni ke ena mikro pososto tourkon ine megali apodiksi to oti chriazonde epigondos taftotita toso istoriki oso ke ethniki gia na min dialithoun to oti stis ekloges paraligo "oi makedones "tis gitonas choras tha paradinan to kratos tous stous alvanous.oi voulgari telos meta tin ptosi tou kommounismou ke to geniko psaximo pou charaktirizi oles tis chores pou ifistande teties megales allages ine mia apo ta idia apla den tous theoro pleon toso epikindynous ke me tipota den tha tous charaktiriso olous to idio epidi se ena site kapios berdemenos grafi oti theli ke oti ton simferi.
as pame se epichirimata lipon ke the prospatiso na min makrygorio an ke ine dyskolo.ta oria se mia periochi pote den ine akrivi akoma ke simera an dis se vathos dekaetion pos allazoun i chartes ton poleon katalavenis ti simveni se mia toso megali periochi se vathos chilioetion.....
1)mas les oti ta oria ine asafi tis makedonia opos ke olis tis ellada opos prosthese o iron eagle,afou omos ine toso asafi pos opos les mirastike kata tin dialysi tis othomanikis aftokratorias ??? gia na mirasti kati den prepi na iparchi ??? an den ifistate periochi makedonia me sigekrimenes geografikes diastasis pos tha borousan na tin mirasoun ??? ara echume antifasi ke min mou pis oti den anaferotan tote o oros makedonia giati o makedonikos agonas ke i valkaniki polemi apodiknyo to antitheto.fandasou pos se vathos 50-60 chronia allazi o chartis mias polis ke ola trigyro tis ,pos lipon se vathos chilietion na min allazi mia toso megali periochi ???en pasi periptosi i periochi tis makedonias echi chartographithi apo tin archeotita ke den milao gia tis epektasis tis epi fillipou ke megalou alexandrou.periklyei vevea ke tmimata tis simerinis voulgarias ke ton skopion opos ke perioches tis simerins ipirou.
2) elliniko kratos prin ton kapodistria ke to peras tou protou kymatos tis apanastasis den ifistate.os tote ap tin archeototita me tin diakyvernitiki politiki tis polis-kratous ,tis romaikes zones diikisis ,tis vyzantines eparchis me tin thessaloniki ke tin olokliri makedonia os propyrgio tou ellinismou logo tou ek tou vorra kindynou(voulgarikes fyles kyrios me ton vassilia samouil pou eftase mia fora os tin preveza-i athina itan chorio tote-) ke tin "stegi tou othomanikou kratous den ipirche kan elliniko kratos me tin simerini erminia iparchoun omos istorikes apodiksis gia oles aftes tis epoches gia to pos litourgousan ethnika oles afte i polis,zones ,eparchies ktl. tha to anaptikso sindomos gia na min epaneltho.archeotita :olympiaki agones athlites mono ellines apo mikra asia,pondo,sikelia,makedonia ,thrakes,ipirotes kyprioi,krites ,paralia voriou afrikis ke vevea sterea ellada pelloponiso ke ola ta nisia.ellines filosofi,iatri,politiki apo tin sinopi ,lesvo os ke syrakouses.sispirosi tis pliopsiafia olon afton apenandi stous episis megalous perses,i misthofori ton person apokaloundan prodotes,telos i ekstraties tou mithridati echun stichia gia tin nootropia ton ellinikon poleon.afto apodiknyei oti ne men itan xechori se diikisi ekanan tous polemoua ke ta emcboria tous xechorista alla ikseran oti to genos tous ine idio ke anikoun stin idia fyli.opote me tin logiki sou amfisitounde oles i ellinikes polis krati apo sparti,thyva ,athina ktl den steki.sto vyzantio i makedonia antistekotan stou vorious voulgarous pou kanan epidromes ke den ine thriskeftiko zitima opos lene afou akoma ke meta ton ekchristianismo ton voulgaron ke tin kathierosi tou alphavitou apo kurillo ke methodio i epidromes ke polemi ginotan olo pio sichi ,apokorifoma i katofi tis misis ellada apo ton vassilia samouil gia peripou 25-30 chronia(isos kano larhos edo stin posotita).i diafora itan lipon edo fyletiki(ochi ratsistika ennoumeni ennoite) dil. afou ipirche idia thriskia ,pleon glossa gia na sinenounde ke gnosi tis ellinikis apo pollous ti tous chorize ???stin othomoniki aftokratoria se naousa ,kozani,chalkidiki ke alles polis ginan apopires epanastastis pou katapnichtikan mias ke den itan orimes i katastasis. me liga logia vlepoume oti para tis diskolies ke tis alliosis i sinidisi peri tis ellinikis ithagenias pote den klonistike se oli tin periochi.
3) i glossa ke ta toponimia den ine apodixi ethnikotitas. i lexis ke i topi allazoun onoma analoga me to ti epikratise teleftea min geliese 1300 chronia eleftheria me diastimata polemon,ftochias,emfylion ktl den ine polla outososte na dimiourgisis enan politismo neo me vasi tin katagogi sou.polli makedonomachi lipon den milousan kan ellinika me proto ke kalitero ton kapetan KOTTA pou eno ton lintzaran ekso apo mia ekklisia fonaze zito i ellada sta ....slavika :) ine logiko meta apo makrochronia katochi na allionete ,allazi i glossa se kapious anthropous i sinidisi omos den allazi.mipos nomizis oti an den itan o korais ke alli logotechnes simera tha milousame opos milkame ??? afti katharisan oso itan dinaton apo tis prosmiksis tin glossa mas pou eki pou itan tourki (notia ellada,kriti) tourkize eno se mas pou ichame pollous slavous ichame perissotero aftin tin alliosi.an i glossa ,thriskia ke ta toponimia itan kritiria den tha ipirchame simera akoma ke to gonidiako den pezi rolo.i sinidisi ine afto pou se kani ellina pos esthanese ke to pos prattis,skeftese.an ke simera afto den ine ke poly kolakeftiko.
epidi egrapsa polla teliono me mia akoma antifasi mallon 2 les oti stilane tous mikrasiate ke pontious (pou ke aftous i idioi anthropi to isdio systyma amfisviti os ellines) na exellinisoun tin makedonia--proti andifasi--- ke defteri pos exigite oti ena ezisou megalou pososto to egatestisan se pirea ke sigekrimena stis simerines perioches tis nikeas,neas smyrnis,filadelfia,menidi,perama,keratsini ktl mipos ithelan na exellinisoun ke tous athineous pou stin ousia ine apogoni tou soultanou ??( astievome vevea)
episis ego an theloun na onomastoun makedonia leo nai alla ipo enan oro afou chrisimopoioun mia ellinikis proelefsis lexi i kalitera onoma prepi na apodechtoun oti afou ine makedones ine ke apogoni ton ellinon opos emis ke den tha echo kanena apolitos provlima na echo sta voria gitones ellines :) kathe allo tha mou ine polly efcharisto allios as onomastoun vardarska opos prin ton tito ke gia ekatondades chronia.
ENTELOS FILIKA KE EPIKODOMITIKA ola osa ipa stin archi tou kimenou.
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north eagle.....xairomai pou egrapses ola auta.....alla thelo na mou doseis ligo xrono na ta epeksergasto gia na sinexisoume....
to genikeuses stin arxi alla opos katalava to etheses san prologo gia na metapidiseis meta stis ipoloipes geitones xores pou "diekdikoun" tin en logo perioxi kai oti allo....
apla gia mena epidi to paradexomai oti den eimai kai poli katartismenos istorika tha ithela i kouventa na menei kai ligo se epipeda realismou kai pos stin teliki mporoume na vglaoume, an mporoume, ena siberasma gia to tora....gia mena...gia sena....gia mas.....gia tous giro mas....autous pou erxomaste kathimerina se epafi kai epikoinonoumai, ton alvano oikodomo, ton tourko sovatzi kai ton roso odokatharisti.....kai oxi gia tous merikous pou allote exoun na kanoun me anotera stromata kai simferonta kai allote gia merikous pou kathodigoumenoi panta koitan pos tha tsimpisoune apo opoio fileto tous petane.....
ta siberasmata/siberasma afenos tha exei mia vasi kai den tha pataei se moto kai slogan akraia (oute aristera oute deksia oute pouthena) kai afeterou tha exei na kanei amesi sxesi me tin torini katastasi pou zoume.....
epanerxomai....
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file mou afti kala kanoun den tous katigoro etsi thelloun na elegxoun ton kosmo tous pou se epipedo pedias dystihos isteri ke afto ine to epikindino,vevea den echo provlima me kanenan metanasti ergati,ergodoti,ikogeniarchi ke ego metanastis imoun eho provlima me ton ellina kakopoio opos ke me ton kseno to idio akrivos to antilamvanome gia min parexigithi i oli sizitisi.lysi vevea den ine na boukaris se mia chora ke na xekanis chiliades kosmo pou ine ta prota thymata afton ton politikon diadikasion afou panda ine ypo,den tous dinete(se pliopsifia vevea oute morfosi,oute aftodynamia ikonomiki pou stis meres mas isodynami me piotita zois ke eleftheria distichos allo megalo hema vevea....)iparchun diplomatika mesa ke thelo na sou kendriso to ndiaferon me to thema tis brettagne metaxy gallias ke agglias opou i aggli thelan na chrisimopioun to great brittagne diethnes alla meta apo kinisis ton gallon tous apagoreftike,to thema ine na sigrotisi ellada epitropi apoteloumeni apo istorikous,nomikous,politikous ke na katathesi ta ola stichia gia na vrethi mia lysi po tin diethni kinotita.aftos ine o realismos o dikos mou sto olo thema.
to ethese to thema synolika giati den diaferoun se kati i periptosis ektos apo tin geografi periochi ton en logo kratos.
simfonoume sto oti i genikefsi skotoni tin dimokratia ke eleftheria ke pare oso chrono chriastis den kanoume kondra alla sizitisi,
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esi imago exeis katantisi grafikos.....ante se kamia propaganda tou karatzaferi tora pou dilonei kai ipopsifios...
διαταγές από διεθνιστές και ανιστόρητους ψευτοδιανοούμενους δεν δέχομαι. Εάν εσένα δεν σε ενδιαφέρει πώς ονομάζεται κανονικά η Μακεδονία καλό θα ήταν να αλλάξεις Φόρουμ ή τουλάχιστο να σεβαστείς την επιθυμία μας ως Έλληνες να αυτοπροσδιοριζόμαστε όπως εμείς το θεωρούμε σωστό και όχι όπως μας έχουν διατάξει να θεωρούμε σωστό!!!Αυτά να τα πεις στις διάφορες πολυπολιτισμικές επιτροπές και στους ινδιάνους προιστάμενούς σου!!!
Άκου εκεί, το "Μακεδονία" είναι απλά μια γεωγραφική έννοια, και οι...γεωγραφίες δίνουν στον εαυτό τους από μόνες τους τις ονομασίες???
Προς τους άλλους, λιγότερο μετριοπαθείς, το όνομα Αλέξανδρος έχει σαφέστατα ελληνικές ρίζες, ούτε σλαβικές, ούτε...γεωγραφικές όπως θέλουν να μας κάμουν να πιστέψουμε. Βέβαια υπάρχουν και κάτι "σοβαροί" ερευνητές που ισχυρίζονται ότι τον πολιτισμό στην Ελλάδα τον έφεραν αφρικανοί διανοούμενοι (σαν και αυτούς που βλέπουμε σήμερα στην τηλεόραση) αλλά αυτό δεν σημαίνει ότι είμαστε υποχρεωμένοι να το πιστέψουμε επειδή οι "διαβασμένοι" τα θεωρούν της...μόδας!!!
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imago poly simbathis ine i indiani giati tous paromiazis me kati kako :)
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άκου να δεις το παράλογο φίλε. Κάποιος βγαίνει και διαμαρτύρεται επειδή υπάρχει προπαγανδιστικό σάιτ κατά της πατρίδας μας και αμέσως πέφτουν πάνω μας οι "διαβασμένοι" και μετριοπαθείς και λεν να μην ασχολούμαστε με αυτά γιατί ο πραγματικός εχθρός είναι το κεφάλαιο...και ότι πρέπει να εκλείψουν τα εθνικιστικά συνθήματα.
Για αυτόν τον λόγο καταφέρομαι κατά των ινδιάνων, των κογκολέζων και των παικιστανών, για να καταλάβουν οι κουλτουριαραίοι ότι προτιμώ να θεωρηθώ ως φασίστας και ως ρατσιστής παρά να δεχτώ ότι η Μακεδονία είναι καθαρά...γεωγραφικός προσδιορισμός.
Βέβαια κατανοώ ότι αλλιώς ήταν μέχρι τώρα μαθημένοι οι διεθνιστές αλλά μια ματιά και στα γερμανικά τεκτενόμενα θα τους δώσει να καταλάβουν μια για πάντα ότι η έννοια του έθνους θα επιζήσει και αυτήν ακόμη την βάρβαρη νοοτροπία τους κατά των εθνοτήτων!!!
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endaxi alla i pakistani ke indiani ti ftene ???
pia germanika tektenomena ennois ???
to zitima afto olo opos ke me tous gitones tous allous ine kathara politiko ke lynete efkola an aftes oles i chores ke i dikia mas mazi ine toulachiston sovares ke o kosmos petaksi kamia tileorasi ke aniksi kana vivlio. to misos den ine lysi alla provlima.
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kai simantiko rolo se auto epekse i egkatastasi (me tin voitheia panta tou ellinikou kratous) enos megalou arithmou mikrasiaton meta tin apotixia tis ekstrateias tis ellados stin tourkia stis arxes to 20ies (sic).....
i ethnopreza vlaptei sovara to mialo....
@no leaders..e 8elo na po prohn @antifasist..e dhladh prohn @pounks .. e epishs prohn @anarxikos (efxaristo gia to oxetodh bineliki su prin ligo kairo pros to prosopo mu.edeikses to pragmatiko poion su tote
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8eleis na gineis ORISTIKA kai AMETAKLHTA prohn sto forum?sto xeri sou einai.tipote allo apo emena
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Auto einai loipon to sygxrono ellhniko kratos; Euxaristw paidia alla de 8a parw.
Apo periergia plhktrologhsa mia fora thn ennoia "makedonia" sto google gia na dw mexri pou exei ftasei to kako. Kai ekei loipon pou perimenw na diabasw gia Ellada kai Ale3andro (oxi pws den anaferontai kai auta -alla periorismena) blepw ti; Th shmaia twn kwloskopianwn, to kwlokratidio tous, kai pampolles alles malakies peri makedoniko kratos twn skopiwn,makedonikh glwssa (akouson akouson) kai slawomakedonikh koultoura.
Peritto na pw oti kontepsa na karafliasw - kai exw kai polu malli o pousths - kai na peta3w to pc ap'to para8uro me thn elpida na petuxw kanenan mpastardo skopiano...
"Ma kala" anarwtiemai, "oi malakes oi dikoi mas ti sto poutso kanoun;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;,". Sunexizw loipon to psa3imo mhpws kai brw kammia selida pou na antimaxetai tous poustarades autous. Prosoxh: Milaw gia epishmh selida kratikh pou na enhmerwnei se oles tis shmantikes glwsses (agglika, germanika, gallika,...) ton kosmo gia th mastiga auth ths ellhnikhs istorias kai oxi selides h forums - a3iologes men memonwmenes prospa8eies de - apo eleu8erous polites. Kai ti blepw apo KRATIKA sites ellhnikhs pleuras;
"Aktes, 8alasses, paralies, 3enodoxeia" , touristika merh koinws gia malakes touristes pou 8eloun na episkef8oun th kabala, xalkidih, serres, ktl.
Gia to makedoniko problhma oute anafora. Oute kan ena site pou na dhlwnei oti uparxei kontra sto 8ema auto. H apogohteush pou eniwsa htan gamisterotath. Anti8etws apo pleuras skopiwn - gamw th mana pou tous genage - parathreitai oti to idio to kratos tous - pou leme oti den exoun na fane - xrhmatodotei thn opoiadhpote prospa8eia tou ka8e mpastardou, o opoios 3ekinaei propagandistikh kampania kata ths Elladas.
Erwthsh pros to koino: POU EINAIH POUTANA H KHBERNHSH MAS ??? TI PERIMENETE RE POUSTHDES ?
NA MPOUNE STH 8ESSALONIKH ???
Akouste kai ena allo:
Palia ekana merika merokamata se ellhnikh taverna edw sth germania. O timokatalogos met3u twn allwn prosfere kai "makedoniko xalba" gia epidorpio. Ekei trwne kai polloi malakes germanoi. 3afnika me rwtaei enas : "To epidorpio auto einai jugoslawiko?" Twra apo pou na arxiza kai pou na teleiwna... Den exei idea o kosmos apo to ellhniko kai monadiko alh8ino kratidio ths Makedonias sthn Ellada.
Kai ena allo:
Sto treno anoigw koubenta me enan 3enerwto germano. Panw sto pentalepto me rwtaei apo pou eimai. "Apo thn Ellada" tou lew. Otan 8elhse na ma8ei apo pou akribws kai tou apanthsa oti katagwmai apo th Makedonia, h amesws epomenh erwthsh tou htan: "Ma kala, tote eisai jugoslawos, etsi den einai;" Ti tou les tou malaka; Ta pragmata exoun ginei kouloumpaxata...
Kai ante kala, egw 3erw pws na apantaw, opws kai polloi alloi, ta sygxrona paidia omws ;;;;;;
Ekei ti ginetai; Eseis ti pisteuete; Oti sto ellhniko sxoleio ma8ainoun istoria opws allwte; POUTSES MPLE KAI ARXIDIA KOKKINA. POUTSES MPLE KA ARXIDIA KOKKINA. POUTSES MPLE KA ARXIDIA KOKKINA.
Paidia exoume ginei rentikolo.
Kai kaneis den kanei protaseis gia ena antikinhma. Kati telospantwn. KANEIS!!!
TI PERIMENOUME ???