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ΠΑΟΚ => Σύνδεσμοι, Σύλλογοι και Λέσχες ΠΑΟΚ - PAOK Fan Clubs => Topic started by: Tasos on May 15, 2003, 21:19:28
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egw den kserw ti eishthria 8a parei kai poios oute kai me niazei.o paok oso iparxei auto to skatosystem me thn 8ira4 pou oudemia sxesh exei pleon o sindesmos me ton onoma..pera apo to istoriko ktiriaki tou,kai tous makedones..o paok xairi den 8a dei. episis einai gnosto oti sto gipedo 8a maste girw stis 12 me 13 xiliades...kai as lene tragoudia astinomikoi kai epo..sta arxidia mas..
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Tis poutanas simera sti Toumba apo tis 8:30 mexri tis 6:00 perimenan ÐÁÏÊôóÜêéá pou out syndesmites einai oute diarkias exoun. O Kavouras ksekinise na tous douleuei oti tha perisepsoun kamia 400 kai tha diatethoun, meta oti tha minoun kamia 100 kata tis 3:30 kai sto telos fisika sto telos 5:30 eipe ti; oti den yparxoun eisitiria, giati dothikan 6000 stous sindesmous, otan diname ta 22 euro gia ton imiteliko me tin A.E.K imastan kaloi PAOKtsides twra eisitirio oxi mono den exei alla mas koroideuoun kiolas. Prosopika pisteuw oti 6000 eisitiria einai para polla gia tous sindesmous kai tha eprepe na ypirxan toulaxisto kamia 1000 gia ta ÐÁÏÊôóÜêéá pou den einai syndesmites i exou diarkias. Kala to olo tragelafiko ginetai me fimes gia oti oi syndesmoi dinoun ta eisitiria tous 30 euro kai oxi 15 stos mi syndesmites. Pantos kai egw exw dosei 30 euro se syndesmiti gia na mou vrei apo to syndesmo tou eisitirio kai ayri methaurio tha exw perissoteres leptomeries.
Aurio to prwi tha ertoun kai kamia 500 eisitiria pou eixe kratisei i E.P.O kai tha ta parei i P.A.E, twra se pion tha ta mirasei mono autoi kseroun.
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Kala to olo tragelafiko ginetai me fimes gia oti oi syndesmoi dinoun ta eisitiria tous 30 euro kai oxi 15 stos mi syndesmites. Pantos kai egw exw dosei 30 euro se syndesmiti gia na mou vrei apo to syndesmo tou eisitirio kai ayri methaurio tha exw perissoteres leptomeries.
ela re "bag" geros dynatos? ;)
loipon akou na deis opws kai oi ypoloipoi GIA NA BAZOUME KAPOIA PRAGMATA STHN 8ESH TOUS....
eishthrio twn 15 euro oi syndesmoi to dinoun SE MH SYNDESMITES 30 EURO?
ksereis/ksrete poso to dinoun SE SYNDESMITES?
27 ME 30 EURO!!!![opaaaa afnidiasthkes/kate?
APLA TA PRAGMATA:
prwplhrwnontai oi mhnes MAIOS,IUNIOS,IULIOS,AVGUSTOS K-A-I A-P-O T-U-S S-Y-N-D-ES-M-T-E-S GIA NA BGOUN OI KALOKAIRINOI MHNES XWRIS AGXOS,STRESS,AGWNIA....
to idio loipon KAI! GIA SYNDESMITES KAI! GIA ANORGANWTUS....*gia na dynamwnoun oi syndesmoi,
*gia na dynamwnei h fwnh tu LAOU,
*gia kalyterh organwsh kerkidas[afta pou 8a deite sthn toumpa apo xartakia,shmaies,pyrsous,kapnogona EINAI KAI! DIKO SAS EPITEVGMA! KAI PREPEI NA EISTE PERHFANOI GIA AFTO!
*gia fthnoteres ekdromes,
aaaaaaaaa!kai mia kai anefera gia ekdromes....POLLA PAIDIA EXOUN PERASEI APO SYNDESMOUS ENW DEN EINAI SYNDESMITES KAI PHRAN PA-NE-FKO-LA EISHTHRIO!
PWS?!?!zoune sthn synoikia tous....opu yparxei k o ekastote sf....KATEBAINUN OMWS K 2-3 EKDROMES STHN A8HNAAAA MAGEEEES!!!![me amaksi,me traino alla oxi me syndesmo-dikaiwma tus]
e? thn mia den ton prosexeis....thn 2h oute....e apo thn 3h k meta mages GINETAI GNW-STH FA-TSA....
trexalatzhs k oxi radiofwnatzhs....
partakias men alla oxi thleorasakias....
*oxi mono loipon ABIASTA na zhtame apo tus sf xwris omws na dinoume...."kai thn pita oloklhrh k ton skylo xortato?" den "leei " mages....
KATI PU EKTIMATAI PISTEPSTE ME....anoigw omws megalo 8ema[gia allo topic to "kobw" opws eipe k o makhs/yang ;D ]
Y.G.2.na pername kala kai gamw ta erpeta
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chris tha diafoniso mazi sou giati an valeis kato 1 meso oro 800 eisitirion x 15 euro einai 12000 europoula parakalo.
tora ksero oti theleis na tous prostateuseis oso mporeis se ayto to seimio alla ego den troo papa oti kai kala demek einai gia kalokairinous mines einai gia alla pragmata(keinos tsepoma oxi olokliro to poso vevaia ena arketa kalo pososto omos).
auta vevaia kai den ta vgazo apo tin fantasia mou ksero proin proedro s.f. PAOK (den anafero tipota allo giati an po onomata tha ginei mpaxalo) o opoios ftiaxtike apo to sindesmo oikonomika kai mou ta anefere o idios.
milame gia megali konoma paides an piastis kala kai to gnorizoume oloi auto.
opos episis gnorizoume proedrous pou zoun xoris doulia kai exoun kai oikogenia pos?
tora mporoume na poume para polla to stamatao edo giati exoume ton teliko kai ola ayta prepei na mpoun se 2oi moira.
p.s.vevaia na po oti tha itan adikia gia tous sindesmous na min poume oti travane kai para polla ayto tous to anagnorizo.
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OPAAAAAAA STOP EDOOOOOOOOO.
KATSE ADERDE GIATI EIPAME TON TRELLO NA XESEI KAI KSEKOLO8HKE.. EGO EIMAI SUNDESMITHS STON SF PAOK MHXANIONAS. EXO NA SOU PO O PROEDROS DEN EXEI BALEI FRAGKO STHN TSEPH TOU KAI EXEI/EXOUME BALEI PARA POLLA STON SUNDESMO. OTAN EIMOUNA TO KALOKAIRI KATI KAI MOIRAZA TO EISHTHRIA GIA TO MATCH ME TON BAZELO STHN ARXH THS SAIZON -katse ksexasa ta caps lock, kai den fonazo mono sthn arxh- Ksereis posa atoma hr8an apo ta guro xoria, epanomh, kerasia, agia triada, pairea, kai mou zhtousan eishthrio?? Kai tous zhtouses 3 euro pano kai legan, re file tosa xronia paoktshs ti mou zhtas tora?? Bre ante apo ekei na poume pou ego otan ekana ton sundesmo kai ta pano kai etsi kai kaname agores, legate aurio kai aurio.. Dhladh o sundesmos apo pou bgazei lefta?? Apo ta mhniatika?? Poios dinei re su?? Mono ama einai kana match tote ta stazoun. To kalokairi pou leei o xristos einai kai stegnh mhnes, pos ta bgazei ena sundesmos?? TO pano to megalo ths mhxanionas sthn torinh tou morfh ekane 1.400.000 drx, pos bgainoun auta?? Apo ta mhniatika. kai olloi tora gkablonoun.
h fanela pou ksanakaname alla 800.000 drx, pos bgainoun auta?? Kai olloi trailenontai me ton lao. O euosmos, eixe 30-40 pursous me ton bazelo apo bghkana autoi?? Dhladh thn asfaleia kai to treksimo na to trome oi sundesmites kai oi alloi na zhtame mono?? Gia na pareis eishthria prepei na ta proplhroseis tote?? Exei o sundesmos h o proedros, px an parei 100 eisthria na dosei 1500 euro?? Tora olloi 8eloun shmaies kai xartakia kommena pou 8a ginoun auta? Katse esu sto spith sou kai ftiakse shmaia kopse ena tsoubalia xartakia na doume poso 8a sou bgei kai posh ora, fantasou na moiraseis se tosa atoma.. Olloi goustaroume, kai leme mprabo kerkida alla gia na ginoun olla auta 8elei xrhma. Kai mono me tri match, gauro- bazelo/aek- kai skouliki, ama bgaloume tipota. Tora hr8e kai to kupello na bgaloume ena parapano. Allios hmerologia, kai faneles. Ton xrono mono gia noiki, enas sundesmos ths mhxaniona pou ksero ari8mous, 8elei 1 ekatomurio 200 xiliades ton xrono mono gia noiki. Bale reuma thlefona kai alla kai meta pes mou. As dinan olloi ta mhniatika kai as mhn kanan parapona oste na mhn eixame problhma alla pou. Kai na sou po kai to allo, an sthrizeis ton paok, 8a eixes diarkeias, kai den 8a xreiazosouna na doseis parapano an den exeis h den h8eles. Ego eixa 5 xronia, ta tria ston kanada kai as mhn phgaina, kai eixa diarkeias.. xoris parekshghsh etsi..
ALLO EINAI TO 8EMA..PAOKARA OLLE, KAI 8A GINEI THS POUTANAS..ANTE 8A GINEI XAMOS....
MAKHS
PS: sakh tora 8a prepei na eisai ston xoro tou lemmy, me ton xristo, pou ginetai shmera kai perimenoum leptomereies..
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OPAAAAAAA STOP EDOOOOOOOOO.
KATSE ADERDE GIATI EIPAME TON TRELLO NA XESEI KAI KSEKOLO8HKE.. EGO EIMAI SUNDESMITHS STON SF PAOK MHXANIONAS. EXO NA SOU PO O PROEDROS DEN EXEI BALEI FRAGKO STHN TSEPH TOU KAI EXEI/EXOUME BALEI PARA POLLA STON SUNDESMO. OTAN EIMOUNA TO KALOKAIRI KATI KAI MOIRAZA TO EISHTHRIA GIA TO MATCH ME TON BAZELO STHN ARXH THS SAIZON -katse ksexasa ta caps lock, kai den fonazo mono sthn arxh- Ksereis posa atoma hr8an apo ta guro xoria, epanomh, kerasia, agia triada, pairea, kai mou zhtousan eishthrio?? Kai tous zhtouses 3 euro pano kai legan, re file tosa xronia paoktshs ti mou zhtas tora?? Bre ante apo ekei na poume pou ego otan ekana ton sundesmo kai ta pano kai etsi kai kaname agores, legate aurio kai aurio.. Dhladh o sundesmos apo pou bgazei lefta?? Apo ta mhniatika?? Poios dinei re su?? Mono ama einai kana match tote ta stazoun. To kalokairi pou leei o xristos einai kai stegnh mhnes, pos ta bgazei ena sundesmos?? TO pano to megalo ths mhxanionas sthn torinh tou morfh ekane 1.400.000 drx, pos bgainoun auta?? Apo ta mhniatika. kai olloi tora gkablonoun.
h fanela pou ksanakaname alla 800.000 drx, pos bgainoun auta?? Kai olloi trailenontai me ton lao. O euosmos, eixe 30-40 pursous me ton bazelo apo bghkana autoi?? Dhladh thn asfaleia kai to treksimo na to trome oi sundesmites kai oi alloi na zhtame mono?? Gia na pareis eishthria prepei na ta proplhroseis tote?? Exei o sundesmos h o proedros, px an parei 100 eisthria na dosei 1500 euro?? Tora olloi 8eloun shmaies kai xartakia kommena pou 8a ginoun auta? Katse esu sto spith sou kai ftiakse shmaia kopse ena tsoubalia xartakia na doume poso 8a sou bgei kai posh ora, fantasou na moiraseis se tosa atoma.. Olloi goustaroume, kai leme mprabo kerkida alla gia na ginoun olla auta 8elei xrhma. Kai mono me tri match, gauro- bazelo/aek- kai skouliki, ama bgaloume tipota. Tora hr8e kai to kupello na bgaloume ena parapano. Allios hmerologia, kai faneles. Ton xrono mono gia noiki, enas sundesmos ths mhxaniona pou ksero ari8mous, 8elei 1 ekatomurio 200 xiliades ton xrono mono gia noiki. Bale reuma thlefona kai alla kai meta pes mou. As dinan olloi ta mhniatika kai as mhn kanan parapona oste na mhn eixame problhma alla pou. Kai na sou po kai to allo, an sthrizeis ton paok, 8a eixes diarkeias, kai den 8a xreiazosouna na doseis parapano an den exeis h den h8eles. Ego eixa 5 xronia, ta tria ston kanada kai as mhn phgaina, kai eixa diarkeias.. xoris parekshghsh etsi..
ALLO EINAI TO 8EMA..PAOKARA OLLE, KAI 8A GINEI THS POUTANAS..ANTE 8A GINEI XAMOS....
MAKHS
PS: sakh tora 8a prepei na eisai ston xoro tou lemmy, me ton xristo, pou ginetai shmera kai perimenoum leptomereies..
na po katarxas oti ayta pou egrapsa parapano einai apopseis tis opoies den allazo kserontas oti tha fao kraksimo apo tous sindesmites tou foroum.
prota apo ola den gnorizo gia ton s.f. mixanionas kai ola pou eipes den exo logo na diafoniso (iparxei panta i ekseresi tou kanona)vasika anaferomouna stous megalous legomenous.
tora ta 3 euro san enisxisi(kapello to leo ego) kallos na to doso i na agoraso ena imerologio re aderfe stin telikh me 5 euro gia na voithiso alla re file oxi kai diplo kapeloma milame gia treli konoma ekei kai oi s.f. den einai etairies pou poulane kati gia na epeiviosoune stin agora einai mi epikairdeis etairies.
tora pes mou giati skotonostai oi 2 megaloi(thira 4/makedones)gia tin psixi tis manas tous den nomizo.
oso gia tous pirsous oloi kseroume pou vriskontai kai einai dorean vevaia prepei na riskareis gia na tous pareis.
ta xartakia einai mono kourasei kai ayto to anagnorizo.
an valeis tora esoda xronias giati enas sindesmos exei kai ena proipologismo xronieo kapou isoropountai apo imerologia/faneles kai ala diafora eidi/isitiria/ekdromes kai alla giati stis meres mas den iparxoun anthropoi oi opoioi tha skotonontai na ginoun proedroi kai meta na skotonontai me allous sindesmous rixnontas laspoi kai meta erxontai oi mpounies sta tsimenta tis toumpas gia simferonta pou emeis oi afelois den gnorizoume kai na matonei kai i tsepei tou stin teliki.tipota stis meres mas den einai tsampa apla iparxoun kapia xompi pou se ligo kairo merika apo ayta ta xompi ginontai mpoumerang kai girnane sto kerdos sti ladia kinos sto poniro.
tora na toniso oti imouna sidesmitis trelathika otan ida na peftoun mpounies stin toumpa kai na legontai kapoia pragmata metaksi proedron kai ksereis file ti skeftika ego fonazo gia ton PAOK gamo tin poutana mou kai oxi gia parti sas.apo tote den me ksanaidane se sindesmo kai den prokite na ksanagrafto se sindesmo gia na eksipireto simferonta me emeso/ameso tropo kapiou malaka pou tin eide.
autes einai oi apopsis mou kai den tis alazo giati mou tis exoun tekmiriosi atoma ta opoiaftiaxtikan mesa apo sindesmous
xoris pareksigisi.
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Pes mou se mena me prosopiko onoma kai 8a sou po..
Polla ginontai kai polla akougontai. H alh8eia einai kapou sth mesh. Den ksero gia tous makedones kai 8ura 4, h mallon ksero polla alla den me endiaferei. Opos les kai su PAOK eimai kai go. Ego sou milao gia sundesmous, apo h mhxaniona, o euosmos, to kordelio, h stavroupolh, h neapolh, h sukies, tis breois, naousas, gianitsa, serres, kozanh, penelhnios kai etsi..
Lefta apo tis mplouzes kai hmerologia den bgazeis. Mhn koitas mono ti bgazei tora o sundesmos, des kai ti eksoda exei ollo ton xrono.
Kai na sou po kai kati allo, einai san na les oti ego tora, o giannhs, o xristos, o panos, o sakhs, o basilhs, kai o louhs pou exoume ftiaksei to paokworld.com bgazoume fragka. Ksereis ti treksimo exoume riksei gi authn thn selida, ti eksoda kai ti 8usies?? Dhladh ego giati exo riksei, toson agona kai kano alla tosa kai etoimazo alla tosa, suntoma ananeosh tou site me uliko trello, eno de bgazo tipota, kai apo pano dino tosa fragka ton xrono, gia ton ISP, kai ta forum kai ta loipa?? Kai ores ateleiotes. Ama deis mesobdomada, eimai apo tis 10 to brady elladas mexri 9 to proi, etsi na mhn mpei enas allo8rhskos kai grapsei mia malakia. Ksereis kati, skeftomastan na kanoume kai ena e-shop, na poulame apo kassetes tou paok, me palious agones, kai mplouzes sundesmon oste o ka8enas na mporei na exei dunatothta gia na parei otidhpote, alla 8a mas bgalete kai apo pano oti 8a to kanoume gia na bgaloume apo pano. Den les oti kapoios 8a prepei na treksei se ena sundesmo, kai 8a prepei na paei na parei ena fakelo, na grapsei dieu8hnseis, na katsei poshn ora sth seira tou taxudromeiou, gia na sthlei esena mia mplouza. Kai se posous allous, oi na agorasei kassetes kai na katsei pano apo videa kai an antigrapsei. Auto einai xronos pou 8a mporousame na kanoume kati allo alla 8a kaname auto gia ton paok. Alla esu kai merikoi alloi 8a skefteste oti kai ti egine mia kasseta zhthsa kai th plhrosa, alla den einai mono ena atomo alla posa 100ntades. Kai poso xrono 8elei, etsi gia diadosoume paok. Giati omos ego, na skefto na kano kati tetoio eno, 8a bgeis esu kai merikoi oi alloi, na poun ekana ena site gia na ta pairno??
Makhs
ps: kai auth thn protash thn eksetazame polly sobara, mias kai polly zhthsan polla tetoia alla giati na ginei kati tetoio??? Den 8a goustares esu px, ton teliko to 75 me ton gauro kai ta penalnti, h me thn malin, h thn arsenal, kai me geneuh h kai video tou laou. H kai mplouzakia apo sundesmous se agglia, amerikh, australia, kai sundesmous opos xio, kai korin8o. Alla ti na bgeis kai na mou peis oti ta pairno kai apo pano.
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RE MAGKES EGO ENA 8A PO. DEN PREPEI NA LEME TETOIA PRAGMATA DHMOSIA GIA TOUS SYNDESMOUS. EINAI NTROPH RE MAGKES. SEBASTEITE TO SYNDESMIAKO KINHMA TOU PAOK. APO THN MIA LEME OTI H TOYMPA EINAI ADEIA OTI DEN PHGAINEI KANENAS GHPEDO KAI APO THN ALLH BGAINOUME KAI TA XONOUME STOYS SYNDESMOUS TO MONO ISOS ENERGO MEROS TOU LAOU TOU PAOK. DEN LEO OTI OI SYNDESMOI KAI OI SYNDESMITES EINAI AGIOI. OUTE LEO OTI DEN EGEINAN OSA LETE OTI EGEINAN. DEN KATALABAINO OMOS GIATI RE MAGKES NA TROGOMASTE OTAN MPROSTA MAS BRISKETAI MIA EYKAIRIA NA KATAKTHSOUME ENA TITLO. DEN MPOREITE NA KATALABAITE RE KARNTASIA OTI PREPEI NA EIMASTE ENOMENOI GIA NA SHKOSOUME THN KOUPA? STAMATHSTE AYTH THN KOUBENTA GIA TOUS SYNDESMOUS. OLOI PAOK EIMASTE REEEEEEE. OLOI PONAME GIA TON PAOK.
ALLA MERIKES KOUBENTES RE MAGKES PREPEI NA SKEFTOMASTE POTE KAI POS TIS LEME. DEN NOMIZO OTI KANOUME KALO STHN OMADA MAS ME TO NA TROGOMASTE METAXY MAS AYTH TH STIGMH PRIN APO ENA TELIKO. YPARXEI XRONOS GIA KRITIKH. OXI TORA OMOS....
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THIRA 4 kapelo 5 euro kai dwro 1 imerologio.
makedones kapelo 15 euro...opoios kai an isoyn.
to prwto lrgete stirixh ston sindesmo,to deftero legete pliatsiko.
DIAFORA PIOTITAS!!!!KAI NOOTROPIAS!!!
oso gia proplirwmes...afto to aneferan argotera otan idi to skandalo eixe ginei gnwsto.sta melh poy pernan eisitiria den legane tipota gia proplirwmes.oyte apodeixeis fisika oyte tipota.
bgalane mia dekara ekatomiria oi makedones se mia mera...
se kali meria!!!
pitbull oli i poli ta xerei afta re sy.den ginode twra gnwsta apo edw mesa.twra pia olos o kosmos exei katalabei merika pragmata.
to xeirotero apola itan ta eisitiria poy piran oi boreioi.krima.
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pitbull den katalabenw thn logikh sou me sigxoreis kiolas alla apla den katalabenw.na kanw ta straba matia se mia parea 20 atomwn pou exoun geliopoihsei to sindesmiako kinima tou paok? emeis dioxnoume ton kosmo apo to gipedo?plaka mas kanete mwre? oso gia ton titlo to ksanaeipa.to mats einai 17 mah.18 mah o paok dialiete.alla oi sindesmites oi epaggelmaties 8imi8ikan ton paok meta apo ena xrono logo telikou.miristikan xrima mpoliko... emena ilikrina an to kipello den htan me ton arh teliko, posos me endiefere o telikos.sta arxidia mou.egw kserw oti o okkas einai hdh gabro to idio mallon kai o kafes alloi 2 me 3 pane germania.o paok einai kataxreos kai tou xronou 8a pezoume kalamaria edra kai me ta tsiko kai mia omada na bolodernei..oso tote kalhnixta. AN RE MALAKISMENA EPAGGELMATIES SINDESMITES TOU KOLOU DIALI8EI O PAOK APO POU 8A KONOMATE RE???????8A GINETE GABROI?ARSENH KALA EISAI RE?XA8IKES...
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na ksekiniso me ton yang o opoios ta pire poli prosopika ayta pou egrapsa.
na sou po yang den anefera oti konomas apo to site(oute kanenas allos giati den exete diafimisis pou kai na eixate kaneis den tha sas elege tipota etsi pisteuo)oute afisa iponooumena oti konomas esi i kapios allos.
oi apopseis mou na ksanatoniso oti einai autes pou egrapsa sta parapano topic kai den allazoun.
tora na po oti ektimo poli kapies kinisis ton ditikon sinikion kai telos.
to na kanete ena shop mesa sto site gia palies kasetes prosopika me endiaferei na paro kapious agones pou einai istoriki gia tin omada.oso gia mplouzakia sindesmon den me endiaferoun giati exo fanela tis omadas kai ayti mou ftanei.
den thelo na epektatho parapano giati opos egrapsa ta pires poli prosopika kai mallon kapou mperdeutikes me ta grafomena mou.
p.s. me ton taso simfono einai aytonoita ayta pou leei kai epauksano sto thema tou arseni palli.kati akoma taso mpas kai isouna kai esi makedones tote?
p.s.na po oti ta esoda enos sindesmou (yang min to pareis palli sto prosopiko,milao gia tous megalous)einai kai kapia kato apo to trapezi kserete apo proedrous pou theloun tin stiriksi tou kosmou kai alla tetoia kai min pi kanis tipota gia apodiksis giati ego tha ton rotiso protou vgalei o triantafilopoulos tis kasetes oloi den ksrame kai legame gia parages?eixame apodiksis tote? den nomizo na eixame apla fenotane kai opou eiparxei kapnos iparxei kai fotia.
ayta apo emena ENTELOS FILIKA KAI XORIS PAREKSIGISIS
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otan leo oloi enoo olous kai tous men kai tous den..............
ekana 2000 xiliometra gia na do to mats,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
kai alla 2000 xiliades tha kano gia epistrofi..............
ta isitiria akoma sigoura sta xeria mas den ta exoume (endexete na min mporesoume na mpoume mesa)
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to apotelesma omos ine to eksis.......................
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ADERFIA NA MALONOUN ANAMETAKSI TOUS REEEEEEEEEEE
ESTO OI MEN NA FTAINE ESTO I DEN NA FTAINE INE AMARTIA NA TA WGAZETE ZONTANA EKSO............ KAI TO XIROTERO INE OTI TA DIAVAZOUNE OI ALLOTHRISKI................
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ISASTE OLI GIA XAS.....................................
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lipon isaste oli sas gia ton p..................
otan leo oloi enoo olous kai tous men kai tous den..............
ekana 2000 xiliometra gia na do to mats,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
kai alla 2000 xiliades tha kano gia epistrofi..............
ta isitiria akoma sigoura sta xeria mas den ta exoume (endexete na min mporesoume na mpoume mesa)
lipon irtha edo se mia fili mou gia xalaroma.................. anti na kimitho ipa na tsekaro to internet na diavaso th lenen ta tsakalia ÐÁÏÊôóÜêéá gia ton teliko ,
to apotelesma omos ine to eksis.......................
blep0 ta aderfia mou na tsakonontia anametaksi tous. to xirotero pragma se auton ton skatokosmo...............
ADERFIA NA MALONOUN ANAMETAKSI TOUS REEEEEEEEEEE
ESTO OI MEN NA FTAINE ESTO I DEN NA FTAINE INE AMARTIA NA TA WGAZETE ZONTANA EKSO............ KAI TO XIROTERO INE OTI TA DIAVAZOUNE OI ALLOTHRISKI................
DEN IXA SKOPO NA KIMITHO SIMERA ALLA ETSI POU EKSELIXTHIKAN TA PRAGMATA OUTE O TELIKOS ME KANI ALLO KEFI.....................
ISASTE OLI GIA XAS.....................................
proton den malonoume apla diafonoume ite se ligo entonotero tono ite se xalaro oute vrizi kanenas ton allon sostos ;) ?
deyteron ayto to xaraktiristiko mas kanei na diaferoume kai mas xaraktirizi san anthropous.
ayta lipon giati tora pame TOUMPA ante na gamisoume ta erpeta gamo tous evreous gamo 8)
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TASO ME PAREXHGHSES FILE MOU.
EGO APLA EIPA OTI THN KRITIKH MAS PREPEI NA THN KANOUME META TO KYPELLO. THN IDIA APOPSH ME ESENA EXO GIA TOUS SYNDESMOUS ADERFE. KAI DEN KOLONO NA THN PO. APLA THN LEO TORA POU TELEIOSE O TELIKOS KAI PHRAME THN KOUPA. MERIKOI SYNDESMOI LEITOYRGOUN OS KAFE BAR H OTI ALLO FANTASTEIS. EPEISHS ORISMENOI SYNDESMOPATERES -OI OPOIOI NAI MEN EXOUN TREXEI GIA TON PAOK- ALLA DE TA TELEUTAIA XRONIA EXOUNE KANEI TO SYNDESMIAKO KINHMA EPAGGELMA KAI ZOUNE APO TON PAOK OPOS ZOUNE KAI TA LAMOGIA POU YPARXOUN MESA STHN PAE. BEBAIA YPARXEI O ANTILOGOS OTI O SYNDESMOS EXEI EXODA GIA NA LEITOYRGHSEI, OTI 8ELEI 8YSIES. AYTA PISTEYO ISXYOUN MONO GIA TOYS SYNDESMOUS POU DEN EXOUN POLLA ENERGA MELH KYRIOS DHLADH SYNDESMOI EKTOS THS POLHS MAS KAI SYNDESMOI TOY EXOTERIKOU. OI SYNDESMOI OMOS THS POLHS MAS DEN NOMIZO NA EXOUNE TETOIO PROBLHMA. KAI PISTEUO EPISHS OTI OI SYNDESMOI THS POLHS MAS POU PROXORHSANE SE KAPELOMA STHN TIMH TOU EISHTHRIOU -KANO DIAKRISH DEN ENNOO KAPELOMA TA 3 H TA 5 EYRO ALLA KATI ALLA TRELLA POSA POU AKOUSA- 8A PREPEI NA NTREPONTAI. NA NTREPONTAI GIATI EMPOREYTHKAN THN IDEA TOY PAOK KAI EKMETALEYTHKAN THN AGAPH MAS GIA TA TESSERA IERA GRAMMATA. OI SYNDESMOPATERES AYTOI EGO PISTEYO OTI DEN EXOUN KAMOIA DIAFORA -EKTOS TOU OTI KAPOTE MPOREI NA ETREXAN GIA TON PAOK- ME TA LAMOGIA POU YPARXOUN MESA STHN PAE.
OUST RE KARKINOI TOU PAOK. OUST...
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telika paidia oson afora ta eishthria tsampa "o skotwmos" afou OLOI mphkame xyma mesa :) ;)
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re paides kaneis de leei oti yparxoun katharoi syndesmoi. kai kata ti gnwmi mou oi mikroi syndesmoi einai oi magkes pou kratane tin ennoia tou paoktsi psila. mixaniwna,panellinios,kai tosoi alloi pio mikroi - se meli ennow- leitourgoun poly kala kai kaneis de mporei na tous katigorisei....kseroume wstoso pws den einai ekei to problima...gia koitaxte kati thyra-4- kai makedones pou symfwna me olous exoun pleon kseftylistei....kai koitaxte na deite pws tha tous diwrthwsete...ainte tora sto palataki tis popis ginetai...
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Einai ypoxrewsh tou PAOKtsi na sthrizei tou syndesmous tou. Eidika TWRA pou katapolemountai ANOIXTA kai apo politika proswpa!!! Bgainei re paidia to kratos kai leei 3eka8ara oti "8a kleisoume tous syndesmous" kai de trexei tipota...
Den ftaine oi syndesmoi. Ftaine oi hgetes twn syndesmwn pou den lene na paraith8oune. O PAOK xreiazetai hgetes se syndesmiako epipedo. Riziki ananewsh ths ideologias twn syndesmwn. Sthri3h sto ghpedo kai EPIKOINWNIA me thn dioikhsh ths ka8e omadas. Panw ap'ola omws xreiazontai atoma ta opoia 8a ta PISTEPSEI o PAOKtsis. Autoi pou kanoun koumanto stous syndesmous exoun xasei thn a3iopistia tous kai 8a eprepe na paraith8oune apo monoi tous...
Dikefalos
PAOKWORLD: Connecting ÐÁÏÊôóÜêéá ;D
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dikefale simfono mazi sou omos den fovase oti kai na ginei kati tetoio meta apo ligo kairo pali ta idia tha exoume giati opos kai na to kanoume to xrima einai gliko
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egw den kserw ti eishthria 8a parei kai poios oute kai me niazei.o paok oso iparxei auto to skatosystem me thn 8ira4 pou oudemia sxesh exei pleon o sindesmos me ton onoma..pera apo to istoriko ktiriaki tou,kai tous makedones..o paok xairi den 8a dei.
1.akribws taso.oi MAKEDONES kai h 8YRA4 einai to problhma KYRIWS sto SYNDESMIAKO KINHMA.kapoioi omws pio katw ta "xwnoun" ANEF8HNA,BIASTIKA,EPIPOLAIA gia THN PLEIOPSHFIA twn sf....arxizw loipon:
syndesmoi oi opoioi se ka8e agwna sth tumpa kanun xiliometra polla....pu ka8e agwnas gia aytus einai ektos...pu otan teleiwsei o agwnas sth tumpa kai mwlis to pullman vgei apo ton 8essalonikhs-a8hna dromo arxizei o agwnas epiviwshs...mesa apo perioxes (veroia, trikala, kozanh k.a. analogws to dromologio) pu se ka8e steno yparxei kai karterin apo allo8rhskus 'magges'...th stigmh pu alloi pernun ta podarakia tus kai pane gia kafe sto leyko pyrgo gia pipinia-time!!!!!
2.kai kapoioi ABIASTA bazoun olous tus sf STO IDIO TSOUBALI fortwnontas ton logariasmo tu OTE k th tseph twn goniwn tous eite thlefonontas se radio eite grafontas se ena forum
chris tha diafoniso mazi sou giati an valeis kato 1 meso oro 800 eisitirion x 15 euro einai 12000 europoula parakalo.
3.ok "alex" o pollaplasiasmos einai OLOSWSTOS.8eleis na katalhkseis kapou?
tora ksero oti theleis na tous prostateuseis oso mporeis se ayto to seimio alla ego den troo papa oti kai kala demek einai gia kalokairinous mines einai gia alla pragmata(keinos tsepoma oxi olokliro to poso vevaia ena arketa kalo pososto omos).
4-a.FYSIKA kai 8elw na tous prostatefsw!ksereis posa euro tus pairnw gia "prostasia"? ;D
4-b."papa den trws" ALLA kanhs k grafhs TRAGIKA PRAGMATA!
BEBAIA esy kai MONO ESY gnwrizeis oti ta
NOIKIA,
REVMATA,
NERA,
THLEFWNA,
k ta ypoloipa EKSODA enos sf bgainoun apo LEFTOMHXANH!!!!
giati loipon ta 15euro[mhnes maiou,iouniou,iouliou,avgustu+eggrafh=3euro*5 PU PROPLHRW8HKAN na phgan gia afta ta EKSODA?
4-c.ma fysika phgan gia "tsepwma"!ti dhladh?EGW h ESY ....oi GONEIS mu h oi GONEIS su PU MENOUN/MENUME KAPOU PLHRWNOUME GIA NOIKIA,MOIKIA,SYKA?
oxi bebaia!TZAMPA menoun/menoume!ARA TI MALAKIES LEME OTI 8ELAN TA LEFTA OI SF GIA TA EKSODA TUS?bre ola tzampa einai gia tus sf!
5-d.FYSIKA epeidh eisai GNWSTHS TWN OIKONOMIKWN 150! tulaxiston sf! EBGALES TO PORISMA MEGISTE! 8) :"oxi oloklhro to poso bebaia...."
auta vevaia kai den ta vgazo apo tin fantasia mou ksero proin proedro s.f. PAOK (den anafero tipota allo giati an po onomata tha ginei mpaxalo) o opoios ftiaxtike apo to sindesmo oikonomika kai mou ta anefere o idios.
milame gia megali konoma paides an piastis kala kai to gnorizoume oloi auto.
opos episis gnorizoume proedrous pou zoun xoris doulia kai exoun kai oikogenia pos?
6.AXA!phres mia h dyo EKSHDHKEVMENES PERIPTWSEIS tis trabhkses mexri pu tis KSEXILWSES k kapoies EKSIDHKEVMENES periptwseis tis GENIKEFSES!
TRAGIKO LA8OS SU AFTO alla exeis deiksei sto forum stoixeia atomou OXI PROKATELHMENOU me tus sf opote den yparxei probljma....
6-a.giati alliws KAPOIOI GIATROI pairnoun FAKELAKIA[oloi oi GIATROI einai arpaxtakhdes?]
giati alliws KAPOIOI POLITIKOI einai EPIKYNDYNOI,AN8ELHNES,KHFHNES,ARPAXTAKHSES[oloi oi POLITIKOI einai etsi?]
giati alliws KAPOIOI ASTYNOMIKOI einai PROAGWGOI,EMPOROI NARKWTIKWN KTL[oloi oi ASTYNOMIKOI einai etsi?]
tora mporoume na poume para polla to stamatao edo giati exoume ton teliko kai ola ayta prepei na mpoun se 2oi moira.
7.e oxi....den paei etsi.rixnhs thn XOLH SU,TIS ANAKRIBEIES SU,TIS GE-NI-KE-FSEIS SU k ola wraia k kala?
p.s.vevaia na po oti tha itan adikia gia tous sindesmous na min poume oti travane kai para polla ayto tous to anagnorizo.
wraios-wraios....."na se kapsw giannh na se aleipsw giannh"kai h GENIKEFSH SU synexizei na einai GENIKEFSH
Kai na sou po kai to allo, an sthrizeis ton paok, 8a eixes diarkeias, kai den 8a xreiazosouna na doseis parapano an den exeis h den h8eles. Ego eixa 5 xronia, ta tria ston kanada kai as mhn phgaina, kai eixa diarkeias.. xoris parekshghsh etsi..
8.makh/yang me OLA TA PARAPANW SXOLIA SU symfwnw 100%.apla EPISHMAINW afta ta sygekrimena sxolia su GIATI EINAI OLO TO "ZOUMI"!
giati POLY APLA oi SYNDESMITES einai pu agorazoun KA8E XRONIA ta diarkeias AFOU KSEROUN OTI 8A EXOUN SHMANTIKO OIKONOMIKO OFELOS sthn tseph tous....pou 8a to ekmetaleftun kerdizontas se mia AKOMA EKDROMH!se mia akoma KA8ODO sthn a8hna!
8-a.giati oi "YPOLOIPOI" kseroume oloi mas:ekdromes mesw INTERNET & RADIO!
8-b.bre ti les makh an "8a eixan diarkeias oi anorganwtoi?"
PAOKtshdes???? twn 2-3 mats einai kai INTERNET-INTERNET!!!! kai RADIO-RADIO!!!!
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na po katarxas oti ayta pou egrapsa parapano einai apopseis tis opoies den allazo kserontas oti tha fao kraksimo apo tous sindesmites tou foroum.
9.KRAKSIMO den 8a fas mhn stenaxwriesai.alla SYNAIS8HMATA mas prokalhs
prota apo ola den gnorizo gia ton s.f. mixanionas kai ola pou eipes den exo logo na diafoniso (iparxei panta i ekseresi tou kanona)vasika anaferomouna stous megalous legomenous.
10.den gnwrizeis gia thn PLEIOPSHFIA TWN SF TU PAOK-PU EINAI K STHN TELIKH H PLEIOPSHFIA STUS SF PAOK =OI YGIEIS SYNDESMOI alla eipame:apopsh gia ola
10-a.axa.... to "rixnoume" TWRA sthn EKSAIRESH gia ton SF MHXANIWNAS[den mas pairnh etsi?mias k o makhs/yang milaei me stoixeia
10-b.kai PARAKATW to dior8wneis oti anaferosoun stous MEGALOUS SF....ok estw k arga emena me kalyptei....arghses omws....[to kraksimo blepeis]
tora ta 3 euro san enisxisi(kapello to leo ego) kallos na to doso i na agoraso ena imerologio re aderfe stin telikh me 5 euro gia na voithiso alla re file oxi kai diplo kapeloma milame gia treli konoma ekei kai oi s.f. den einai etairies pou poulane kati gia na epeiviosoune stin agora einai mi epikairdeis etairies.
11.eipame:epikerdeis etairies den einai alla LEFTOMHXANES....
tora pes mou giati skotonostai oi 2 megaloi(thira 4/makedones)gia tin psixi tis manas tous den nomizo.
12.kai edw PALI h BEBIASMENH GENIKEFSH SU afu pianomenos apo tis OUK OLIGES MALAKIES TWN MAKEDONWN & 8YRAS 4 "rixnhs thn lasph sou" KAI SE OLOUS TUS YGEIEIS SF PU APOTELOUN K THN PLEIOPSHFIA[an parakolou8eis to FORUM afto? 8a exis diapistwsei nomizw to KRAKSIMO pu trwne oi EN LOGW SF apo omosyndesmites tus[EMAS] mpas k dior8w8une]
oso gia tous pirsous oloi kseroume pou vriskontai kai einai dorean vevaia prepei na riskareis gia na tous pareis.
13.epeidh k se afto me pianhs ADIABASTO w megiste! mporeis na mu peis apo PU tus pairnun oi sf DWREAN giati egw edw k 3 xronia mazi me kati filous mu tus AGORAZOUME 4-5 euro ton ka8ena.8es na su pw ta magazia?oi epoxes pu yphrxan XYMA stis BARKES eite sto limani EXOUN PERASEI ANEPISTREPTI EDW K POLLAAAAAAA XRONIA.
13-A.loipon palikare?8a mas peis apo pu tus pairnun DWREAN oi sf?[gia na mhn stenaxwrieste bre aderfe pu sas bazoume k kapelo dhladh k mas pa8ete tipota]
ta xartakia einai mono kourasei kai ayto to anagnorizo.
14.ela mou pou k EDW se pianw ADIABASTO....pane oi epoxes pu ta xartakia ginontousan stous sf apo tus PITSIRIKADES tus....twra aftoi:internet,radio,stoixhma
14-a.8eleis tis times k th dief8hnsh sygekrimenu typografeiou PU PROMH8EVONTAI A-GO-RA-STO XARTI arketoi sf?[sthn dia8esh sou opote 8elhseis]
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an valeis tora esoda xronias giati enas sindesmos exei kai ena proipologismo xronieo kapou isoropountai apo imerologia/faneles kai ala diafora eidi/isitiria/ekdromes kai alla
15.bre den paei na se leei o makhs/yang esena....me apodeikseis k stoixeia....MALAKA ton eipes EMMESA an den to katalabes....mhpws EMMESA k KLEFTH?[gia skepsou]
giati stis meres mas den iparxoun anthropoi oi opoioi tha skotonontai na ginoun proedroi kai meta na skotonontai me allous sindesmous rixnontas laspoi kai meta erxontai oi mpounies sta tsimenta tis toumpas gia simferonta pou emeis oi afelois den gnorizoume kai na matonei kai i tsepei tou stin teliki.tipota stis meres mas den einai tsampa apla iparxoun kapia xompi pou se ligo kairo merika apo ayta ta xompi ginontai mpoumerang kai girnane sto kerdos sti ladia kinos sto poniro.
16.ela nte pu OMWS h PLEIOPSHFIA twn sf k proedrwn einai KA8AROI....alla "konta sta ksera kaigontai k ta xlwra"
16-a."mhn krineis eks idiwn ta allotria"....filika sto lew k xwris parekshghsh enoeitai
tora na toniso oti imouna sidesmitis trelathika otan ida na peftoun mpounies stin toumpa kai na legontai kapoia pragmata metaksi proedron kai ksereis file ti skeftika ego fonazo gia ton PAOK gamo tin poutana mou kai oxi gia parti sas.apo tote den me ksanaidane se sindesmo kai den prokite na ksanagrafto se sindesmo gia na eksipireto simferonta me emeso/ameso tropo kapiou malaka pou tin eide.
autes einai oi apopsis mou kai den tis alazo giati mou tis exoun tekmiriosi atoma ta opoiaftiaxtikan mesa apo sindesmous
xoris pareksigisi.
17.KANHS den ysxhristhke POTE oti OLOI oi sf EINAI AIDIOTELEIS K KA8AROI.meiopshfies kakwn sf yparxoun k 8a yparxoun
17-a.alh8eia prin kapoio kairo EIXAN PIASTEI DASKALOI GIA KATOXH,XRHSH,PWLHSH! NARKWTIKWN!mhpws prepei OLOI MAS na stamathsoume na stelnoume TA PAIDIA MAS sxoleio?
H mhpws na koitaksoume na DIOR8WSOUME ta "kakws keimena" KAI na mhn probainoume se GENIKEFSEIS pou mas EK8ETOUN?
autes einai oi apopsis mou kai den tis alazo giati mou tis exoun tekmiriosi atoma ta opoiaftiaxtikan mesa apo sindesmous
xoris pareksigisi.
18.xwris PAREKSHGHSH elef8era exe tis apospeis su ALLA ESY TIS GENIKEFSES.AFTO HTAN TO LA8OS SU.
18-a.alh8eia[xwris parekshghsh....koubentoula kanoume] na STAMATHSOUME na stelnoume ta PAIDIA MAS sxoleio epeidh bre8hkan kapoia REMALIA daskaloi?
alh8eia? na stamathsoume na ANEBAINOUME se leoforeia YPERASTIKWN SYGINONIWN mias k eixame ta tyxhmata se aliakmona k temph [pio prosfata]-oxi emeis oi syndesmites,milaw gia to epibatiko koino- afou me thn LOGIKH SU 2-3 SF MALAKES[ENOEITAI OTI YPARXOUN K EINAI] ara k 2-3 odhgoi EPIKYNDYNOI ara=OLOI OI ODHGOI TWN KTEL EPIKYNDYNOI?TI LES?
Pes mou se mena me prosopiko onoma kai 8a sou po..
Polla ginontai kai polla akougontai. H alh8eia einai kapou sth mesh. Den ksero gia tous makedones kai 8ura 4, h mallon ksero polla alla den me endiaferei. Opos les kai su PAOK eimai kai go. Ego sou milao gia sundesmous, apo h mhxaniona, o euosmos, to kordelio, h stavroupolh, h neapolh, h sukies, tis breois, naousas, gianitsa, serres, kozanh, penelhnios kai etsi..
Lefta apo tis mplouzes kai hmerologia den bgazeis. Mhn koitas mono ti bgazei tora o sundesmos, des kai ti eksoda exei ollo ton xrono.
Kai na sou po kai kati allo, einai san na les oti ego tora, o giannhs, o xristos, o panos, o sakhs, o basilhs, kai o louhs pou exoume ftiaksei to paokworld.com bgazoume fragka. Alla ti na bgeis kai na mou peis oti ta pairno kai apo pano.
19.fianetai makh/yang oti KAPOIOI diabazoun EPILEKTIKA kapoia ar8ra/topic se afto to FORUM....den ekshghtai alliws....fainetai oti se topic AFTHS ths enothtas emeis KRAZOUME ton?....sf PAOK katw raxoulas
19-a.makh ta "pairnoume"....afto yponooun ta GRAPTA tou....alla to exei synhdhtopoihsei arage?
na ksekiniso me ton yang o opoios ta pire poli prosopika ayta pou egrapsa.
na sou po yang den anefera oti konomas apo to site(oute kanenas allos giati den exete diafimisis pou kai na eixate kaneis den tha sas elege tipota etsi pisteuo)oute afisa iponooumena oti konomas esi i kapios allos.
20.a pali kala EFXARISTOUME....na niw8oume KAI EVGOMWNES gia afto dhladh?
tora na po oti ektimo poli kapies kinisis ton ditikon sinikion kai telos.
21.em etsi paei."katse na pw k kati kalo gia kapoius sf giati den leei.polla eipa"...."mhpws kserw gia to 2dymo stavroupolhs/7lofou?"...."mhpws kserw gia OLOUS tus YPOLOIPUS SF k ton agwna pu dinoun?"...."katse tulaxiston na pw kala logia ESTW gia tis dytikes k ka-8a-ri-sa"
p.s. me ton taso simfono einai aytonoita ayta pou leei kai epauksano sto thema tou arseni palli.kati akoma taso mpas kai isouna kai esi makedones tote?
p.s.na po oti ta esoda enos sindesmou (yang min to pareis palli sto prosopiko,milao gia tous megalous)einai kai kapia kato apo to trapezi kserete apo proedrous pou theloun tin stiriksi tou kosmou kai alla tetoia kai min pi kanis tipota gia apodiksis giati ego tha ton rotiso protou vgalei o triantafilopoulos tis kasetes oloi den ksrame kai legame gia parages?eixame apodiksis tote? den nomizo na eixame apla fenotane kai opou eiparxei kapnos iparxei kai fotia.
ayta apo emena ENTELOS FILIKA KAI XORIS PAREKSIGISIS
ALEXIS
22.na to kseka8arizes oti milouses gia tus MEGALOUS....arghses omws k DIKAIOLOGHMENH H ANTIDRASH TU MAKH 100%
22-a.den briskesai se DIKASTHRIO,den eimaste DIKASTES.ase loipon ta "nomika tertipia" k ta "efyologhmata tu plousiou ellhnikou graptou logou"....KANHS APO MAS den exei dia8esh na se "kolhsei ston toixo" pistepse me.NA MA8HS NA MHN GENIKEVEIS,AFTO EINAI TO NOHMA PU PREPEI NA BGALOUME OLOI APO AFTHN THN SHZHTHSH
KAI PISTEUO EPISHS OTI OI SYNDESMOI THS POLHS MAS POU PROXORHSANE SE KAPELOMA STHN TIMH TOU EISHTHRIOU -KANO DIAKRISH DEN ENNOO KAPELOMA TA 3 H TA 5 EYRO ALLA KATI ALLA TRELLA POSA POU AKOUSA- 8A PREPEI NA NTREPONTAI. NA NTREPONTAI GIATI EMPOREYTHKAN THN IDEA TOY PAOK KAI EKMETALEYTHKAN THN AGAPH MAS GIA TA TESSERA IERA GRAMMATA. OI SYNDESMOPATERES AYTOI EGO PISTEYO OTI DEN EXOUN KAMOIA DIAFORA -EKTOS TOU OTI KAPOTE MPOREI NA ETREXAN GIA TON PAOK- ME TA LAMOGIA POU YPARXOUN MESA STHN PAE.
OUST RE KARKINOI TOU PAOK. OUST...
23.symfwnw me ola ta parapanw pu eipes "pitbull"[prospa8hse se parakalw na mhn grafhs PANTA me KEFALAIA-einai kourastiko,"deixnh" oti kapoios "fwnazei" 8)
24-a.omws....otan O KA8E SYNDESMITHS KA8E SYNDESMOY EPAIRNE TO EISHTHRIO DINONTAS KAI! 15EURO EXTRA[proplhrwnontas tus kalokairinous mhnes]....ena eishthrio pu tu AKSIZE afou AFTOS trexei se ekdromes,trwei ksylo,molotof,petres,sylhpseis,kanh kerkida k TOSA ALLA....GIATI o anorganwtos na MHN to parei oso KAI o organwmenos?[OLOI ISOI K "ADERFIA" DEN LEME OTI EIMASTE?]
24-b.alla o anorganwtos BLEPEIS exei alla eksoda...."pitsa,mpyra,poly8rona k ton PAOK sthn tv"[ta BLEPOUME k se AFTO to FORUM allwste]
24-c.pu na trexoun twra oi ANORGANWTOI se a8hnes k patres k kserwgw?SE LIGO 8A FTASOUN STO SHMEIO "KAPOIOI" NA PISTEVOUN OTI PAOKTSHS EINAI AFTOS PU PAEI STHN TOUMPA 2-3 MATS TON XRONO K AN? KA8WS K AFTOS PU H POLY8RONA EXEI GINEI EPEKTASH TU SWMATOS TU[thlefwnontas taftoxrona olh thn mera sta radio h mpainontas sto internet=eidika afta ta 2 pragmata MONO enas PRAGMATIKOS PAOKtshs MPOREI NA TA KANH]
Y.G.aftaaaaaaa loipon k xwris PAREKSHGHSH fysika ;)
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ALEX egw tha simfwnisw mazi soy(eidikotera gia toys makedones poy pleon oloi toys katakrinoyn gia to kapelo poy balane) kai me toys perissoteroys edw mesa poy ekfrazoyn ena klima disareskeias pros merika gegonota poy simbainoyn sto sindesmiako kinima.
stin toyba to eisitirio to epairnes 15 euro kai mono an isoyn melos.
oyte kapelo oyte tipota.
stin 4 epairnes to eisitirio stin timi toy an isoyn melos kai an oxi plirwnes ena fisiologiko kapelo 5 euro kai me ena imerologio dwro.
i idia i 4 katigeile tis diples times allwn sindesmwn.
emena i apopsi moy einai giafto poy xerw kai afto poy xerw einai gia toys makedones.
afta.
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epidi den ksero na xorizo ta topic se komatia tha se apantiso vazontas mprosta noumera.
1 topic
1)i mpixti apeuthinete se emena kai ego ektos apo merikes genikeuseis pou ekana ta xono kirios se thira 4/makedones
2)oi sindesmoi tis eparxias aksizoun polla ala pairnoun ta ligotera.tora sta tou prosopikou pou egrapses eise lathos se 2 sostos se 1.plirono tous logariasmous mou giati den goustaro na ta fortono stous dikous mou doksa to theo gia 3-4 mines akoma pou diarkei i simvasei tha exo doulia,akouo radio ala pote den exo parei til. gia otidipote apla epidi odigao exo tin euxeria na akouo oso gia to foroum edo nai eise sostos.
3)nai ego esi tha kanoume na doume 4 miria se 2-3 xronia me polla zoria oxi se 1 mera kai poli evala malon ores itan
4)den eimai gnosteis oikonomikon 150 s.f. apla sou leo oti apo pantou sxedon vgainoun mizes kai se rotao an eisoun proedros s.f. kai matones oikonomika tha sinexizes?e aloi pou sintiroun kai oikogenoia xoris doulia pos to kanoun i ante epidi einai enas pos to kanei? e MEGISTE
alitheia posa se dinoun ;D? na kanoume kai ligo xioumor e?
6)ela re c mou anagnorizeis kai kati :o
a)giatroi oxi b)politikoi nai g)astinomikoi oxi
7)tipota den teliose eki
8 )anagnorizo tis prospathies gia organosi tis kerkidas gia ton kopo pou travane gia to treksimo se politika grafeia gia ton ekastote mpatatoudi na grapso kialla?
9 ela re megalo ÐÁÏÊôóáêé pou exeis travixth pantou ego den tha katso na grapso pou exo pai den me kanei pio manga einai gia tin parti mou auta pou perasa kai tha peraso.kai aporo toso misos gia to net kai eisai kai moderator?an einai dinaton.
pou stirizeis perisotero se oikonomiko epipedo tin omada me diarkias i xorista ta eisitiria e?
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2 topic
1)ti sinai sthimata sou prokalo?ante pes na doume ::)
2)panta anferomouna stous megalous giati oi eparxiaki einai se diaforetiki moira.krkse perisotero sou dino kai to erethisma aloste ;D
3)e iparxoun kai oi proedroi tou PAOK pou molis stamatisi to paradaki na reiei arxizei to kraksimo apo tous proedrous ton megalon sindesmon diafoneis?
4)ayto to paratirisa oti tous krazete min anxonese kai poli diavazo tin genikeusi pou ides?
5)ksero oti tous poulane kai se magazia omos den perasane telios oi epoxes tou limaniou.
6)tin ksero tin dieuthinsi tou ote kai ta entipa paragelion oi tis efimerides tis palies
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Alexh, den exo kanena problhma me esena prosopika, alla otan bgaineis kai katakrineis to sundesmiako kinhma, katakrineis kai emena pou eimai en8ermos uposthrikths tou, kai melos. Exo treksei gia sundesmo, kai exo paei se sundesmous -malista se enan apo autous-ekgainia tou kordeliou to kalokairi- me phre kai h camera me ton chris, sthn efhmerida metrosport, opote 8igomai otan kapoios leei kati enantion.
Se kapoia stigmh eipes "tora pes mou giati skotonostai oi 2 megaloi(thira 4/makedones)gia tin psixi tis manas tous den nomizo."
Kai se auto sou apnthsa les kai emena klefth?? Giati ego, kai oi upoloipoi kanoume auta pou kanoume?? Doksa ton 8eo oi goneis mou einai zontanoi kai na zhsoun alla tosa xronia..
Auto pou 8elo na po einai oti, polloi kanoume polla, giati trella mas. Den 8a prepei na blepoume piso apo olla aitia kai kakoboulia. Einai kalo oi sundesmoi na xoun kai ena fragko sthn akrh gia ama xreiastei kati, na mporoun na dosoun lefta. Paoktsakia stis fulakes, epeidh katourisan xoris adeia- eimoun mprosta, gia paidia pou traumatistikan se atuxhmata,Mpamphs Tsolakidhs, h to eklhsaki tou katsourh, pou ekane h Mhxaniona. Suntoma 8a katsoume na ta analusoume olla.
Na baloume olles ti apopseis kato, pisteuo na goustares ta pano ths mhxanionas etsi??? Den pisteuo na mhn goustare kaneis??
Makhs
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3 topic
1)an katalaves esi oti ton eipa klefti i malaka kalos to katalaves re file ti na se po parapano.re seis ta xorafia mou tha xoriso edo mesa ti einai ayta pou grafeis.
2)ti na kanoume etsi einai oi koinonia pou zoume ala simphono oti poloi sindesmoi pou einai stin afania kai xaropaleuon den ftain na plironoun tis malakies ton megalon poutana koinonia omos ti na kaneis
3)edo mperdeueis 2 pragmata a)tous sindesmous oi opoioi ekfrazoun ena megalo komati anthropon pou poles fores tis malakies tous (oxi oles) tis kaliptoun i prospathoun na tis kalipsoun anthropoi san esena me tous b)tous daskalous pou ekfrazoun ton eauto tous kai me mia malakia pernoun podi mallon atixhs sigrisi ekanes.sto na diorthosoume ta kakos kimena simfono an prosekses me tin apopsi tou dikefalou kratontas kapies epifilaksis
4)an esi katalaves apo auta pou egrapsa peri isologismou oti se katigoro oti ta pairneis tote eise diania re file mono mia diania ta eklamvanete etsi ta peri proipologismou/isologismou
den leo oti den ekana lathi i oti eimai alanthastos ala koita loigo pros tin meria sou
5)den thelo na nioseis eugnomonas kai na doso ksana ta sigxaritiria mou pou kratate to site aspromauro giati den eimai se ola kolimenos opos pisteueis
6)oi ditikes sinikies ekfrazoun ena megalo komati sidesmon pou epi to pleiston oi prakseis tous kai oi statheres theseis tous einai aksies singaritirion na grapso parapano theleis?den einai ante kai kathariasa einai mia ektimisi pou exo stis ditikes ok?
7)malon prin arxiseis na grafeis eprepe na divaseis prosextika ayta pou egrapsa kai meta na egrafes ala kapia topic ta rixnoume mia matia kai ante na grapsoume den paei etsi.
8)ti na kanoume emeis oi anorganotoi pou eimaste ta anarxika stoixeia gia tous organomenous pou einai pio ÐÁÏÊôóÜêéá apo olous emas kai mon autoi trexoun se patres kai trone petres kai kathontai oi mpatsoi sto lemo tous pou kontevis na patheis asfiksia otan se pigenoun me ton ilektriko sinodia apo tin zesti kai dose mpinelikia e kano kapio lathos ego o anorganotos pou pitsa mpira polithrona kai ton PAOK sto kouti kai stoixima paizo na se simpliroso an theleis.ala esis eiste oi mages pou diatimpanizete ego piga ekei edo efaga petres eki edeira gaurous ekei kai ales tetoies malakies se fouskonoun ksero.ti na kano pou ta kratao gia parti mou osa exo traviksi kai osa tha travikso sto mellon.
afta apo emena xoris pareksigisi sizitisi kanoume ante na doume mipos vgei kai tipota thetiko.
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Alexh, den exo kanena problhma me esena prosopika, alla otan bgaineis kai katakrineis to sundesmiako kinhma, katakrineis kai emena pou eimai en8ermos uposthrikths tou, kai melos. Exo treksei gia sundesmo, kai exo paei se sundesmous -malista se enan apo autous-ekgainia tou kordeliou to kalokairi- me phre kai h camera me ton chris, sthn efhmerida metrosport, opote 8igomai otan kapoios leei kati enantion.
Se kapoia stigmh eipes "tora pes mou giati skotonostai oi 2 megaloi(thira 4/makedones)gia tin psixi tis manas tous den nomizo."
Kai se auto sou apnthsa les kai emena klefth?? Giati ego, kai oi upoloipoi kanoume auta pou kanoume?? Doksa ton 8eo oi goneis mou einai zontanoi kai na zhsoun alla tosa xronia..
Auto pou 8elo na po einai oti, polloi kanoume polla, giati trella mas. Den 8a prepei na blepoume piso apo olla aitia kai kakoboulia. Einai kalo oi sundesmoi na xoun kai ena fragko sthn akrh gia ama xreiastei kati, na mporoun na dosoun lefta. Paoktsakia stis fulakes, epeidh katourisan xoris adeia- eimoun mprosta, gia paidia pou traumatistikan se atuxhmata,Mpamphs Tsolakidhs, h to eklhsaki tou katsourh, pou ekane h Mhxaniona. Suntoma 8a katsoume na ta analusoume olla.
Na baloume olles ti apopseis kato, pisteuo na goustares ta pano ths mhxanionas etsi??? Den pisteuo na mhn goustare kaneis??
Makhs
kapote etrexa kai ego gia sindesmo kai me trelane perisotero kai me trelenei akoma kai tora auta pou kanoun 2 proedroi na sto po etsi giati gia na kerdisoun oi idioi vazoun to sindesmo kai ta meli mprosta pou stin ousia den ftain se tipota kai exoun pesi kai fapes (mexri edo ftasane oi 2 toipoi) metaksi melon tis 4 kai makedonon stin p.p.g. pou stin ousia einai kinoumenoi apo tous proedrous esi i o kathe sindesmitis pou exei agnia se kapia pragmata kai ton exoun kanei pionei den ftaiei se tipota pros theou siga na min se po klefti esna i to filaraki mou pou einai sindesmitis kai pame parea sto gipedo min ta mperdeuoume.na sou anfero ena peristatiko otan egine to atixima sta tempi meta to mats me ton vazelo itane savato ego paraskeui imouna athina kai den mporousa na mino na do to mats giati eprepe na giriso salonika logo doulias to filaraki mou itan sto mats kai sto girismo girise me to poulman tou kordeliou egine to atixima efigan ta 6 aetopoula apo tin zoi(singxoremenoi kai na goustaroun ta kipela tis omadas mas)ti glitose me kati diasisis kai peiragmena pleura auta ta paidia ego ta sevomai pou paizoun korona kai i trela einai oti an emena tha girnousa me to idio leforio pios kserei ti tha ginotan. i frasei perei psixi tis manas itan apla mia ekfrasei katalaveneis nomizo kala na einai oi goneis olon mas kai na zisoun pola xronia.to pano tis mixanionas to goustaro kai to apolamvano kathe fora pou vgainei min anxonese.
tora ego stin arxi den ithela na grapso me akriveia i 4 oi h makedones kai gia auto evala perisotero plithintiko thelontas na to peraso apo plagia vevaia kapou to genikeua thelontas kapou oxi auto o CHRIS den tha grapso kapios to pire oti ta genikeuo ola kai prospathise poli eironika na apantisi se ayta pou egrapsa kai na me prokalesi elpizo na pire mia idea apo ton tropo pou egrapsa ta themata
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...kai aporo toso misos gia to net kai eisai kai moderator?an einai dinaton...
O "Chris" einai moderator gia logous tous opoious den xreiazetai na e3hghsw/soume. Ayto pou les "misos" gia to Internet einai la8os. Den "misei" to internet. Apla to 8ewrei "ergalio" oxi ayto-skopo. O Xristos pisteuei pws mesw tou Internet mas deinetai h eukairia na pername mynhmata kai pws skopos tou PAOKtsi prepei na einai h syspeirwsh mesw twn syndesmwn. Ayth einai h gnwmh tou, egw proswpika symfwnw mono kata 50% kai exw kai sobares diafwnies pou syzhtame meta3y mas se ka8hmerinh bash.
Twra oson afora thn erwthsh sou ean fobamai pws kai na alla3oune oi proedroi twn syndesmwn 8a gluka8oune sthn poreia apo to xrhma na sou pw:
Egw (proswpika) exw mia monadiki empeiria mesw tou PAOKWORLD. Synergazomai me atoma pou exoun entelws diaforetikes empeiries apo emena, alloi einai syndesmites, alloi prwhn kai fysiko epakolou8o einai oi apopseis mas polles fores na einai rizika anti8etes. H synergasia mas bassizetai kata 99.9% mesw e-mail, ayto omws den thn empodizei na aggizei an oxi to teleio, toulaxiston para poly ikanopoihtika epipeda. Mesw ayths ths empeirias exw katalabei oti shmasia exei na mporeis na syzhthseis me ton allon ta panta, na tou exeis empystosynh. Oxi me kritirio to ti pisteuei panw se memonomena 8emata, alla me bash poio einai to kinhtro tou.
Enas proedros syndesmou exei ey8ynh apenanti sta melh tou syndesmou. Prepei na enhmerwnei. Apo thn allh ta melh prepei na zhtane enhmerwsh. Ayto pou leme "diafaneia" prepei na kyriarxei gia na yparxei a3iopistia sthn kalh 8elhsh. Ean ypo8esoume oti oi mellontikoi proedroi pou 8a analaboune DEN 8a einai kakobouloi (xwris na lew oti oi twra einai), nomizw pws yparxoun 1002 tropoi na apofeygeis katastaseis "monopoliou" ths dioikhshs toy syllogou kai na epibaleis elegxo ston syndesmo.
To pio shmantiko gia mena einai o kosmos na pisteuei stous proedrous. Na tous exei empistosynh, na pisteyoun ta melh oti o "antiproswpos" tous douleuei gia to kalo tou PAOK. Kapoies apofaseis sigoura 8a briskoun merikous anti8etous. Ekei krinontai outws h allws oi hgetes: Stis apofaseis pou pairnoun.
Panw ap'ola omws pisteuw pws to genikotero syndesmiako kinhma tou PAOK prepei na ana8ewrh8ei. Oi epoxes pou o kosmos etrexe stous dromous na diamartyrh8ei exoun perasei. Shmera KANENAS den 8a bgei apo to spiti tou gia na paei na "enhmerw8ei" se syllalhthrio. 8a anoi3ei to internet kai 8a diabasei 100 diaforetikes apopseis se xrono mhden. Oute thleorash de 8a anoi3ei ka8ws 8a prepei na PERIMENEI gia na dei ayto pou 8elei. Gia na ton 3eshkwseis loipon apo ton kanape, prepei na ton PHSEIS oti A3IZEI ton kopo na paei na diamartyrh8ei. Kai ayto de ginetai ean 11 mhnes to xrono de se gnwrizei kai ton dwdekato ton kaleis se syllalhthrio...
Kalws h kakws h koinwnia exei alla3ei. Ta nea PAOKtsakia ma8ainoun poly pio eukola ti einai to "mouse" kai h "karta grafikwn" para pou vrisketai o pio kontinos syndesmos PAOK. Den epikrotw tetoies katastaseis, alla ayth einai h pragmatikothta, ayto einai kai to (kontino) mellon. Ean den dextoume tous "internetikous" PAOKtsides (pou leei o Chris) san ISA3IOUS, san APARAITHTOUS kai san to MELLON tou PAOKtsidikou kinhmatos 8a katalh3oume sta azhthta. Kai dystyxws ayth h allagh nootropias prepei na ginei TWRA. Twra, pou yparxoun AKOMA PAOKtsides pou exoun zhsei tis ekdromes kai to 3ylo, pou exoun zhsei tis kerkides tou '70, pou exoun zhsei tous "8rylous" tou PAOK. Twra, pou mporoume na ftia3oume syndesmous me "krama" apo oles tis "kathgories", na didaxtoune PAOK oi perissoteroi kai oi ligoi na "dida3oune". Ean argisoume ki allo 8a exoume MONO PAOKtsides tou kanape. Einai anapofekto. Kai xwris pare3hsh, ekei badizoume me ma8hmatikh akribeia...
Ean ypo8esoume oti enas syndesmos einai to "sxoleio" enos opadou ekei opou 8a "ma8ei" PAOKtsiliki, tote ta shmerina "sxoleia" mas exoun synde8ei me "narkwtika, bia, ki anarxia" kai polla MME ta metaxirizontai etsi xwris na einai aparaithta etsi ta pragmata. Ti kanoun oi syndesmoi gia na perasoun mynhma oti DEN einai etsi ta pragmata? Pws enhmerwnoun ta nea PAOKtsakia gia tous skopous pou yphretoun? Einai dyo kairaia erwthmata. To na anoi3eis syndesmo me to dikefalo san emblhma kai na perimeneis ton kosmo na er8ei einai outopiko pleon. Apaiteitai na exeis kai "skopo". Na 3erei o PAOKtsis gia paradeigma poia einai h diafora anamesa stous "makedones" kai sth "8yra-4". Pou exoun koina shmeia, pou exoun diafores? H megalyterh magkia 8a htan na kukloforei eniaio entypo styl PAOKtsi, kai na exei apopseis olwn twn syndesmwn mesa tou. Na pairnei o kosmos mia efhmerida kai me mia matia na blepei ti pisteyei o ka8e syndesmos. Na enhmerwnetai gia tis diafores tous. Giati ean o kosmos den 3erei tis diafores, den 8a katalabei pote giati yparxoun diaforetikoi syndesmoi. Kai ean de to katalabei pote, de 8a paei kai na graftei pote syneidhta. Kai ean de grtaftei tote poio to ofelos na exeis syndesmo? Kai ean o kosmos ftasei sto shmeio na pisteuei pws DEN yparxei logos na exoume syndesmous, tote h ypar3h tous 8a tou bazei "psilous sta aytia" oti kapoioi "trwne" mesw aytwn. Nomizw pws shmera ekei exei ftasei h katastash...
Poly filika,
Dikefalos
PAOKWORLD: Connecting ÐÁÏÊôóÜêéá ;D
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den diafono se pola seimia mazi sou dikefale simfono peri kanape peri tis koinonias den prepei na amfisvti kaneis oti pleon oi texnologia proxorai kai odigithikame sto net pou ontos einai ergaleio simfono ala paralila einai kai xompi dil. ego grafo edo kai perimeno na fortosi kati alo pou thelo na to katevaso na to epeksergasto k.t.l.
na sou po tora gia ti kratao epifilaksis feugei o arsenis palia mpainei o ilias an thimame kala den kanei feugei kai mpainei o triantafilidis kai ti exoume mia apo ta idia giauto pisteuo oti kai me tin ananeosi pali xairi den tha doume.
simfono gia to entipo to koino omos pisteuo oti oi moni diafora pou prepei na exei anas s.f. me enan alon einai i perioxi stin opoia stegazete gia na sispironi ton kosmo tis kathe perioxis kamia ali diafora den tha eprepe na eipirxe giati oloi ipotithete oti ergazontai kai koinountai gia to simferon tis omadas kai mono.
tora gia ta narkotika rinai fainomeno tis koinonias to opoio exei ftasei kai stous sindesmous kai se polous tomeis elaxistoi den exoun epireasti kai pos na ginei aloste otan paifti i diafimisi apo ta kanalia vroxi xoris na to pernei kaneis xampari nomizontas oti vlepei eidisis i kapia tainia siga siga perniete to minima.
tora oi sindesmoi na epanertho prepei na leitourgoun etsi pisteuo ala oxi gia prosopiko ofelos kapion ala gia to kalo tou PAOK kai tin kaliteroi eksipiretisi prota ton melon tou.distixos ego den mporo na tous exo empistosini exo vevaia ektimisi stis ditikes sinikies apoliti ampistosini den mporo na deikso an fas ta moutra sou kana 2 fores matheneis na kratas epifilaksis omos kai oi idioi oi s.f. i kalitera oi proedroi me ipolipo simvoulio apomakrinoun ton kosmo akoma perissotero me tin simperifora tous mliga logia oi idioi kanoun ton kosmo na amfivalei gia tin timiotita tous an valoume kai tin genikoteroi kaxipopsia stis meres mas pou iparxei gia ta panta simfono oti eki odigoumaste.
p.s. arafat na po oti mallon oi toumpa den xreiazete 4 miria gia to kalokairi opos ali sindesmoi.
simfono se ayta pou eipes.
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se oti afora ti dianomi twn eisitiriwn tou telikou, osoi den gnwrizoun akoma, mporoun na diabasoun tin upeuthini apantisi tis G4 sto link
http://www.paokworld.com/paokworldboard/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=17;start=20
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;D ;D ;D