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Title: Ο πολιτισμός της Ελλάδας ακόμα ζει !!!
Post by: Tasos on May 02, 2003, 01:32:06

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Title: Απ: Ο πολιτισμός της Ελλάδας ακόμα ζει !!!
Post by: Taseos on December 04, 2003, 01:05:21

www.ancientgr.com ena poly kalo site pou ksekinise poly kala apo spoudaious an8rwpous alla stamathse apotoma na ananeonetai elpizoume gia ligo...

Title: Απ: Ο πολιτισμός της Ελλάδας ακόμα ζει !!!
Post by: nomercy4 on May 08, 2004, 17:14:37

Polloi lene oti prokeitai gia fantasmata tou parelthontos...alloi lene oti mono auta exoume na thimomaste kai pws de mas swzoun.
Proswpika pistevw pws xari se auton ton politismo eimaste to mono ethnos pou ksexwrizoume ap'olous.
as paroume tous ditikous...oloi einai idioi se tropo zwis se koultoura.
as paroume tou anatolites.Ston idio valto zoun oloi.Tourkia,pakistan,iran,irak ktl ktl exoun ton idio tropo zwis kai koultoura.
Oi men ditikoi einai fita kai provata.Zoun gia na doulevoun!!!
vgainoun eksw sa ta kopadia kai to mono pou kanoun einai na pinoun na ginontai xalia na ksernane deksia kai aristera,oi gkomenes revontai kai xanoun kathe ixnos ithikis.
Oi de anatolites kathe mera sfazontai metaksi tous.
As erthoume kai se mas omws.Kata ti gnwmi mou o ellinas doulevei gia na zei!!! den plirwnomaste arketa sxedon oli i ellada einai xrewmeni....alla aderfia deite pws zoume.Exoume mia filosofia kai ena tropo zwis pou mas kanei na ksepername provlimata,mas kanei na gelame,na ksefantwnoume.oli i ellada xrewmeni alla px fetos to pasxa oli i ellada itan stous dromous.Oloi eipane "na gamithoun ola de tha skasoume kiolas...pame ena 3imero na afisoume ta provlimata pisw mas.xrewmenoi ksexrewmenoi allos evale 500 eurw sti tsepi allos 1000 ktl ktl.
Pou thelw na kataliksw?Pistevw oti xari se auton ton politismo pou exoume,diamorfwsame mia koultoura kai ena tropo zwis pou de tha vreis pouthena.de vgainoume san provata na pioume.den exoume anagki na ginoume liwma gia na perasoume kala.den exoume ena tropo diaskedasis.Exoume tis tavernoules mas,exoume ta clubakia mas,exoume ta rockadika mas,exoume ta mpouzoukia mas,exoume tis kafeteries mas,exoume akoma kai ti sigkentrwsi filwn se spiti pou kai pali tha perasoume kala.Exoume tragoudia pou de tha vreis pouthena(rempetika,laika)(nomizw kai i tourkia exei rempetika)
Den eimaste provata.Enas germanos eipe stin aderfi mou kati poli simantiko."Enas xitler stin ellada pote de tha mporouse na iparksei kai na epiviwsei.Den eiste provata san emas".kai ontws aderfia.akoma kai ti xounta pou eixame de tin eixame epeidi pistevame stis idees tis.tin eixame epeidi eixan to strato kai ta opla.pou omws tous kerdisame kai autous.Opoudipote allou oti tous poun to pistevoun,to apodexontai,to akolouthoun.Edw omws oxi.mporei na to pistepsoume stin arxi,mporei na to akolouthisoume stin arxi alla otan tha krinoume pws arketa de mas ekfrazei allo to polemame kai to rixnoume.
Ola auta kai polla akoma exoun diamorfwthei logw politismou.Ton opoio pistevw ton sinexizoume me diaforetiko tropo ekfrasis(an kai pleon i nea genia exei diaftharei).
Pas mi ellin varvaros....kai san varvaroi ferontai oi ksenoi.pinoun methane gamiountai kai to prwi de thimountai ti exoun kanei to proigoumeno vradi.pali kala pou de trwne kai to kreas wmo.i moni diafora me tous varvarous palia.
tha ithela na ekfrasete tis gnwmes sas an pistevete oti o megalos politismos mas zei akoma.
P.s den einai thema swvinismou i kai kala gia na diatimpanisw/oume ton politismo mas.Einai kata ti gnwmi mou thema anwterotitas mas apenanti se olous tous allous.giati to thema den einai na exeis kali sindesi sto net ktl.To thema einai na zeis sa na min ipirxe avrio.na xairesai ti zwi kai oxi me ipokatastata.Auti i filosifia zwis pou exoume de vlepw na ofeiletai kapou allou para mono ston politismo mas.

Title: Απ: Ο πολιτισμός της Ελλάδας ακόμα ζει !!!
Post by: petrovgr on May 10, 2004, 03:11:47

Polles einai oi filosofies kai oxi mono mia...

Vasika to thema den to xoume epikentrwsei.Ti ennooume diladi ''o politismos mas''? Ton proistoriko, ton arxaioelliniko, ton vyzantino, ton simerino i olous mazi?

Giati kathe istoriki fasi eixe para polles enallages politismwn kai nootropiwn, kai parolo pou o politismos aytos exei mia synexeia kai xaraktirizetai ''Ellhnikos'' simera, perase para polles faseis diaforetikes metaksy tous.

Kai mono ayto pou leme emeis ''Vyzantio'', den itan mia politismiki fasi alla para polles , opws einai fysiologiko se mia aytokratoria xilieti.To na thewrisoume loipon, tis periodous ws eniaia politismika dedomena einai lathos, alla to kanoume gia eykoloteri geniki analysi.

Sta ''Metavyzantina'' xronia loipon, otan ola sxedon ta ellinika krati eixan katalifthei apo tous Othwmanous, to mono kratos pou eixe meinei itan i Aytokratoria tis Trapezountas.Ena kratos pou eixe aytokratores ti dynasteia twn M.Komninwn.Ekei loipon vriskotan kremasmeni stis Pontikes Alpeis to perifimo monastiri tis Panagias Soumela, kammia sxesi me ayto pou yparxei simera sto Vermio apo apopsi arxitektonikis.Ekei katefeygan oloi oi xristianoi twn gyrw perioxwn gia na proseyxithoun.Otan to kratos ayto loipon dialythike, o Soultanos episkeftike aytoprosopws tin Moni.Milame gia ena soultano pou tin epoxi ekeini eixe stin katoxi tou Olokliri ti simerini Tourkia, tin Aigypto, tin Aravia, tin Ellada kai ta Valkania.Molis eide to monastiri kai ton tropo diarthrwsis tou, emeine ekpliktos. ''Einai dynaton tosa liga atoma kai na exete kanei ayto to megaleio? Poio einai to mystiko sas? '' rwtise ton Igoumeno.Kai aytos tou apantise ''Den afinoume pote gia ayrio kati pou mporei na ginei simera''.Tote o Soultanos entypwsiastike.
ystera apo ayto, poliorkise mia poli.H maxh htan sfodri kai i niki tou oloklirwtiki.Oi andres tou arga tin nyxta ton diavevaiwnan pws h antistasi eixe sxedon ''spasei'' kai eixan meinei mono merikes froures mesa sta teixi.''Tha kyrieysoume tin poli ayrio'' eipe o soultanos, ''giati twra einai nyxta kai mporei na epwfelithoun ws ligoteroi apo tin anataraxi mesa stin poli kai na xasoume antres'' .
Pige loipon sti skini tou na koimithei,otan thymithike tis lekseis tou Igoumenou ''Den afinoume pote gia ayrio to prwi kati pou mporei na ginei simera'', ksanaksypnise tous antres tou kai kyrieyse tin poli.Ligo argotera eftasan nea pou pliroforousan pws erxontan apo makria enisxyseis gia tous poliorkimenous, kai pws an perimenan mexri tin alli mera, oi stratiwtes tou soultanou tha vriskontan sta mesa dyo pyrwn kai tha pathainan panwlethria.Tote o Soultanos edwse pronomia kai eyxes sto monastiri.

Ti ithela na pw me aytin tin istoria? Oti apla simera exoume kanei ethniki mas filosofia to antitheto.Diladi eimaste h xwra tis teleytaias stigmis.Tha afisoume mia ergasia anekplirwti mexri ekei pou mas pairnei, gia na kanoume arpa kola oti mporoume sto telos.

Sigoura se kapoia simeia (eidika otan mpainoun sti mesi gousta, xavales, filoksenia, anthrwpines sxeseis) eimaste se poly kalyteri katastasi apo tous allous laous, omws de simainei oti eimaste kai o periousios laos me ton ypertato politismo pou ta kanoume ola kala  :)

To ''Pas mi Ellin Varvaros'' einai mia apo tis ekfraseis pou exoun epikratisei oxi xwris logo simera...
Ypirxan xiliades arxaioellinika apofthegmata pou exoun ksexastei kai ta vriskoume mono sta vivlia simera, kai omws ayto to sovinistiko (giati einai) rito to thymomaste oloi  ;D
Giati xrisimopoiithike entexna gia na deiksei tin anwterotita tis ellinikis fylis enanti twn allwn.

Omws edw prepei kata tin apopsi mou na ksexwrisoume kati: O,ti einai arxaio de simainei oti einai kai swsto. Akomi kai oi megalyteroi filosofoi kai mathimatikoi tou arxaiou kosmou ekanan lathi.O Dimokritos as poume, leme oloi pws vrike prwtos tin ennoia tou atomou.Nai ontws etsi einai, omws milwntas thewritika kai min mporwntas na epalitheysei piramatika ayta pou ekane, ypepese kai se lathi sti thewria tou.Den prospathw na meiwsw ton Dimokrito, ayto pou ekane itan apisteyto gia tin epoxi tou.Omws prospathw na apodeiksw ayto: Pws o,ti arxaioelliniko den einai aparaitita ''oneirika plasmeno''.Oi arxaioi Megareis Pigainan me tis manes tous, kai oi Eyvoeis pantreyontan agoria.Oi Athinaioi stis meres tis megalis dimokratias eixan allilomhnythei metaksy tous xiliades fores gia to paramikro adikima, kai eixan eksorisei tous misous enaretous andres tis polis.
Trismegista epiteygmata ypirksan stin Arxaiotita, alla oxi mono tetoia.

Oso gia simera, den kserw posoi Ellines gnwrizoun estw kati (kai as min exoun diavasei to idio to keimeno) gia ti filosofia tou Platwna, Tou Swkrati, Tou Aristoteli, Tou epikourou.S'ayto de voithaei oute i dimosia ekpaideysi, pou ta exei ksexasei ayta dekaeties twra, oute i idiwtiki prwtovoulia, pou oi ekdoseis twn arxaioellinikwn egxeiridiwn vriskontai apo kati prospatheies tou panepistimiou Athinwn stis arxes tou proigoumenou aiwna...

Omws ektos apo to parelthon yparxei kai to paron, kai nomizw pws den einai katholou rodino.Nai men kseroume na diaskedazoume, na pinoume opws goustaroume emeis kai oxi opws ta zwa, na eimaste pio anthrwpinoi me to diplano mas se sxesi me tous allous, omws ta provlimata kai oi ateleies pou exoume ws laos kai ws xwra einai anarithmites.

Title: Απ: Ο πολιτισμός της Ελλάδας ακόμα ζει !!!
Post by: nomercy4 on May 10, 2004, 17:35:27

simfwnw se polla pou eipes...
to post mou den anaferotan mono sti diaskedasi aplws efera ena paradeigma apo pou pigazei i koultoura mas kai i simperifora mas.
to oti exoume polla provlimata,true,alla de nomizw pws ftaiei o allos se auto.
Otan exoume kiverniseis pou to mono pou kanoun einai na trwne...logiko einai na deinopathoume.O laos tha peis tous psifizei.e kai ti na kanei otan exei kapoious orismenous politikous na psifisei?autous tha psifisei...
o laos px den evale ipopsifiotita gia tin olympiada alla o dimos athinaiwn mazi me tin kivernisi.an ola auta ta tris ta xrisimopoiousan opoudipote allou de tha itan etsi ta pragmata.tha mporousan na valoun kapoia lefta sta tameia pou einai adeia.tha mporousan na anaptiksoun kapoious xwrous,opws tourismos viomixania.
kai vevaia den itan ola swsta.omws anafereis oti pantrevontan agoria...se mia koinwnia kathara androkratoumeni nomizw einai logiko na ginei auto.auto den ipovathmizei tin ellada oute ton politismo mas.oti oi athinaioi eksorisan pollous epifanis polites tous kai auto alitheia.alla proilthe mesa apo dimokratikes diadikasies estw kai an itan lanthasmeni i apofasi.
gia tous mathimatikous,fisikous,ktl ktl logiko den einai na kanoun lathi?milame gia 2500 xronia kai panw pio prin.to thema den einai oti ekanan lathi to thema einai oti itan autoi pou ethesan tis vaseis kai simera ta mathimatika pou kaneis ofeilontai se autes tis vaseis.o galilaios o newton oti anakalipsan to anakalipsan giati eixan tis vaseis na doulepsoun.
nai o dimokritos den apedeikse tin ennoia tou atomou mathimatika...alla kai o ainstain den ekane to idio mipws me tin thewria tis sxetikotitas?nai men o ainstain to apedeikse mathimatika alla kaneis den mporei na einai sigouros an ontws isxiei auto kathws den mporei na exei efarmogi auti i thewria.
isws na eimai kai swvinistis(de me peirazei) alla o kosmos eftase sto simeio pou eftase giati emeis valame tis vaseis.(mazi me aigiptious kai vavilwnious pou itan eksisou terastioi politismoi...allwste gia auto onomastikan vivlia...apo timi sti vavilwna). simera pisteveis oti tha eixame ipologistes an oi arxaioi den evazan tis vaseis gia ta mathimatika?tipota ston kosmo den einai tixaio kai o kathenas mas iparxei gia kapoio logo.o logos pou ipirkse o ellinikos politismos se oles tis morfes tou,kata ti gnwmi mou,itan gia na paei mprosta i anthrwpotita.
kai auto to min afineis tipota gia avrio kati pou mporeis na kaneis simera...an prosekseis i dikia mas genia einai auti pou de to tirei.i genia twn gonewn mas ws ena megalo pososto to akolouthei.
se pollous logous ofeiletai auto.mi swsti ekpaideusi,pws exoume oles tis aneseis pou mas apospoun tin prosoxi mas apo kati simantiko(px ipologistes,ilektronika paixnidia ktl ktl).des paidakia 10-15 xronwn.apovlakwnontai oli mera mprosta se mia othoni afinontas to diavasma.to kainourgio sistima pou egine einai geloio mprosta stis desmes i mprosta sto sistima pou ipirxe otan edwse o pateras mou panellinies.einai simptwsi auto?de nomizw

Title: Απ: Ο πολιτισμός της Ελλάδας ακόμα ζει !!!
Post by: nomercy4 on May 10, 2004, 17:36:36

sti 4i seira opou allos=laos :P

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Post by: petrovgr on May 10, 2004, 22:06:43

 8)

Title: Απ: Ο πολιτισμός της Ελλάδας ακόμα ζει !!!
Post by: Ouzounis on May 10, 2004, 23:24:55

Kai sthn Ellada yparxoun provata..legontai Gavroi...

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Post by: fatal_invasion on April 06, 2005, 21:03:48

Quote from: nomercy4 on May 08, 2004, 17:14:37

"Enas xitler stin ellada pote de tha mporouse na iparksei kai na epiviwsei.Den eiste provata san emas".

Diafono katheta.oxi aplos provata eimaste,,alla iperrovata,afou olos o laos kathetai kai psifizei toys pseytes nd kai pasok,,kai min me pei kaneis komounisti giati oso zo den exo dei tipota..Olo iposxesis...As dothoun eykeries kai se alla komata

kai gia na piaso ligo ton titlo,,O simerinos neoellinas exei na deiksei tipota? Den tha to lega kathos eimai enas apo aytous tous neoellines..Gia poion politismo milame re paidia?eimaste sovaroi?zoume me to parelthon kai opoios arxizei na leei giayto den stamataei ton prologo

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Post by: georgeT on April 06, 2005, 21:37:18

agaphte fatal.oute sthn arxaiothta o ellhnas douleue,(o sklabos douleue) oute sthn arxaiothta oi ellhnes parhgagan politismo(ena pososto panepisthmonwn parhgage) kai sthn arxaiothta o ellhnas epine kai eksyne ta @@ tou olh mera stis antistoixes kafeteries pou tote htan ta 8eatra kai oi agores. kai shmera loipon exeis ton 4 fysiko olwn twn epoxwn pagkosmiws ton dimitrh nanopoulo kai shmera exeis lamprous episthmones ston dhmokrito.kai shmera parageis politismo opws kai tote.Giati ellhnes tote den htan mono o aristotelhs o platwnas kai oi dramatopoioi htan kai o laos!mhn ta eisopedonoume ola loipon!kamia koinwnia den htan olh paragwgikh kai kamia koinwnia den eixe monon arnhtika h monon 8etika.apla o ellhnismos meta ton kataklhsmo htan autos panw ston opoio sthrixthke h an8rwpothta gia na anasygroth8ei.auto apo to na isopedwnoume tous shmerinous episthmones ellhnes kai ksenous den einai swsto. kai o shmerinos laos,ebgale enan seferh.kai o shmerinos laos exei ton episthmona pou meta apo xronia kateripse thn oikonomikh xrhmatooikonomikh 8ewria tou CAPM kai fetos einai gia proteinomenos gia braveio nobel.mhn ta isopaidonoume ola. o ellhnikos laos shmera exei polla straba opws h koutsouremenh tou glwssa, alla den exei mhdaminh prosfora ston politismo.

Title: Απ: Ο πολιτισμός της Ελλάδας ακόμα ζει !!!
Post by: fatal_invasion on April 06, 2005, 21:47:00

Filtate george gia neoellina milisa,,Diafono pliros, aytes einai midamines eksereseis kai einai  pio palias genias apo tin dikia mou,,ego pou eimai enas apo aytous kai tous zo kathimerina pisteyo pos exo kaliteri kai pio olokliromeni apopsi..!

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ena site kai mia prospa8eia pou anamfibola deixnei oti o politismos ths elladas akoma zei!kai 8a zei oso kai opou yparxoun ELLHNES

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Post by: JOHNNYS-4- on November 27, 2006, 23:22:30

Quote from: chris on November 27, 2006, 22:41:48

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ton 8eomourlo idiokththths parapano selidas ton petyxa xtes se mia ekpomph ths ert3.syghni8hka pragmatika apo tis props8eies tou na psaxnei kai na briskei ana ton kosmo oloklhro ELLHNES kai na boh8a me ton tropo tou na dynamonoun thn agaph tous gia thn MHTERA ELLADA(bebaia ama 8a zousan sthn ellada mas , to mono sigouro einai oti 8a pernan trexontas ton dromo ths epistrofhs alla de gameis.)

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Post by: agraf on December 13, 2008, 18:06:50

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Post by: savage republic on December 14, 2008, 02:33:58

Μετατάξεις από τα ΜΑΤ;

Title: Απ: Ο πολιτισμός της Ελλάδας ακόμα ζει !!!
Post by: DimNaoussa on December 14, 2008, 03:55:48

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