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Kserei kanena tsakali pou mporw na vrw fframes gia website?
Apo yliko exw poly prama na fortwsw,alla apo web design de skampazw polla :-\
Giati kalo to periexomeno,alla na nai kai eyparousiasto to sitaki 8)
aspromayra pramata...
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alla apo web design de skampazw polla :-\
tote apo AFTO prepei na ksekinhseis!
katarxas me poio programma 8a dulepseis? me to front page h to dreamweaver?
h mhpws me "ergaleia web desigh" pou exoun oi elef8eroi servers?(gia paradeigma h geocities exei to sitebuilder)
ti eidous site 8a einai?
se elef8ero server 8a to shkwseis h se plhrwmeno?px opws to paokworld?
KATALABAINEIS PALIKARE GIATI SU KANW TOSES ERWTHSEIS ;D
gia na boh8hsw ton tropo skepshs su k organwshs tu site pou 8a kaneis.ta idia perasa kai egw kai kserw(prwta na ma8w ta basika ths html,meta na arxisw na "paizw" se kati geocities,meta na paw na agorasw biblia k na arxisw na diabazw ston elef8ero xrono mu k 1002 alla.ALLA PISTEPSE ME EILIKRINA STO LEW EINAI PLEON ARKETA EFKOLO NA FTIAKSEIS ENA GAMATO SITE K-A-I STHN EMFANISH arkei na ksereis ti 8eleis{kai gia mena to YLIKO/PERIEXOMENO enos site einai to A kai to W}..poies enothtes exeis sto myalo su...PWS skeftesai na einai to site..NA SXEDIASEIS TIS SKEPSEIS SU STO XARTI....k ola ta alla efkola einai KAI EDW EIMASTE ;)
Y.G.epeidh omws DEN ANEFERES TIPOTA MA TIPOTE SYGEKRIMENO kane mia bolta sto
www.insomnia.gr kai eidika sto forum tu.8A BOH8H8EIS PARA POLY.
epishs kane ena SEARCH sto google as poume h sto altavista h se kapoia MHXANH ANAZHTHSHS me thn leksh "frames" pou aneferes.den mporeis na fantasteis ti boh8eies 8a su bgalei
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To site ti allo tha mporouse na einai para aspromayro ;D
Thelw na kanw ena site pou na dinei vasi stin eidiseografia oxi olwn twn omadwn,alla sygkekrimena sti diki mas.Na ananewnontai diladi kathimerina (isws k parapanw apo 1 fores ti mera) ta nea tis PAOKARAS mas gia na ta mathainoun apo to internet ÐÁÏÊôóÜêéá apo olo ton kosmo.
To domain to exw agorasei einai www.paoknews.com
To pira apo ta geocities.Ekei to programma pou exei,an kai einai eyxristo gia arxarious,sxediazei to site pros ta aristera (afinei megalo keno sta deksia pou den mporeis na valeis tipota) kai genika ws pros tin emfanisi den ''fysaei'' kiolas...
Ta etoima sximata pou exei sto geocities den tairiazoun se kati opws ena paoktsidiko site,xreiazetai kati pio ''efetzidiko''!
Thanks gia to insomnia,gamato site!
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Epeidi milate gia dimiourgia sites kai tropo kataskevis
rikste mia matia sto www.fiorentina.it (http://www.fiorentina.it).
Den exw katalavei an einai site opadwn i' tis
omadas alla exei afto pou leei o petrovgr:
kathimerini ananewsi twn dimosiografikwn newn
(poli panw apo mia fores ti mera)
kai se kathe mats exei ena stil parousiasis
san afti tou sportaction(alla grafoune akoma
kai tis lathos pases).
An kapoiou tou erthei i oreksi kapote na kanei kati
paromoio tha eimaste poli kala.
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Kati tetoio psinomai na kanw filos,twra den nomizw na ftasw tetoio epipedo opws ayto to site pou les,alla se epipedo emfanisis psaxnomai na kanw kati pou na mi fainetai proxeiro.Vevaia to web designing einai sketo vouno,kai ama den to deis apo konta den katalavaineis peri tinos prokeitai! Mono twra katalavainw tin douleia pou patane ta atoma edw sto paokworld kai xara sto kouragio tous.Pantws pros to parwn exw sikwsei ena banneraki se stil ''under construction'' ;D
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To eida to banner,sinexise etsi... ;D
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To doyleyw kai mexri stigmis toulaxiston emena m'aresei 8)
Den einai kai tooooo site alla to xw souloupwsei ligo! Opou na nai lew na to kanw publish
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Etoimo to mwro mou ;D
WWW.PAOKNEWS.COM
ETOIMOOOOO Mou vgike h pisth,me xasane oi dikoi mou alla to dimosieysa epitelous :D
Einai mia prwti mono morfi, exei polla akomi na veltiwthoun,alla toulaxiston mpike to nero st'aylaki
Chris an theleis valto sta links tou paokworld gia na to doun kai ta alla paidia Thanksssss :afro:
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Sygxaritiria...oraia prospatheia...
ante kai se anotera!!!
Filika
Conan
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Vazw synexeia prama! :) Den einai tipota idiaitero apo apopsi design,alla apo enimerwsi tha prospathisw na to kratisw kala.Oso pernaei o kairos tha doume pws tha paei
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Wraia i epistoli sou sto contra.
Sto FANS exeis tin thira4 sto paok-thira4.com
alla an kaneis klik vgainei "page cannot be found".
Forza petrovgr
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@petrovgr
sigxaritiria gia tin prospathia pou xekinas
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Tha to dw file ksts kai tha to diorthwsw.Sto kontra vgalane epikefalida kai pali peri ''elladas xwrismenis sta dyo'' giayto kai tin esteila.Sorry gia oses ateleies kai sfalmata exei h selida,alla me ton kairo tha diorthwthoun. :)
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twra pou eriksa ena mati sto www.paoknews.com kai epitelous katalaba 5 pragmata mporw ARXIKA na parw mia 8esh:
8etika kai arnhtika:
8ETIKA:
8-1) to oti to site einai AGORASTO.dhladh kai to domain/onoma kai o xwros einai AGORASTOI.(metaksy mas exoun pesei TOSO MA TOSO POLY OI TIMES! pou gia na agoraseis ena domain/onoma 8eleis kapou sta 15-20euro MONO! to xrono ,enw gia ena xwro ,as poume 100mb 8eleis de 8eleis 100euro-ainte 30.000 me 40.000xiliades drx to xrono MONO!
kai TROPOI PLHRWMHS panefkoloi:8es me pistwtikh karta,8es mesw trapezikou logariasmou?omorfa,wraia k efkola
8-2)to oti ftiaxnetai me ena programma web desigh-ths geocities pou eipe o @petrovgr- to opoio DEN EINAI to "pagebuilder" ths geocities OPOU EISAI ANAGASMENOS NA FTIAXNEIS TO SITE SU O-N L-I-N-E kai aplws na bazeis koutakia kai shmatakia-gia mena kati san ena "keimenografo san to word"..ALLA ME ENA PROGRAMMA POU KAAATIII EXEI APO ENA FRONTPAGE H ENA DREAMWEAVER..me programma dhladh pou ME THN HSYXIA SU ftiaxneis to site STON HPOLOGISTH SU kai meta me ENAN AFTOMATOPOIHMENO TROPO "to shkwneis",me FTP dhladh.
8-3)deixnei oti einai prwtotupo oson afora thn emfanish.milaw gia to TEMPLATE=thn morfh dhladh me thn opoia einai ftiagmenh h selida
ARNHTIKA
ENA KAI MONO ENA:APLA @PETROVGR TO PAOKNEWS EINAI 1.000.000.000% KATADIKASMENO NA APOTYXEI META APO ELAXISTES BDOMADES LEITOURGIAS TU.
kserw se stenaxwrw,se prosgeiwnw isws ANWMALA,ALLA AFTH EINAI H ALH8EIA.
olo to BAROS tu ylikou exei pesei STHN YPOTI8EMENH ENHMERWSH.poia omws enhmerwsh AFOU "SHKWNETAI" apo thn martyrikh megalonhso-kalos tourkos o nekros turkos,na mhn ksexniomaste-
poia enhmerwsh afou oi ypoti8emenes eidhseis tu EINAI STIGNO COPY PASTE apo ta 10des a8lhtika portals/site pou "bri8oun" pleon sto internet(mialw gia metrosport.gr,contra.gr,sportnet.gr,ktl ktl ktl)
poia ka8hmerinh enhmerwsh palikareeee mu loipon?
THN PSAXNW H ARXISA MALLON NA THN PSAXNW ME TO KWLOINTERNET APO TO 2000 K META,XRONIA POU TELEIWSA TIS STRATIWTIKES MU YPOXREWSEIS.
polles tetoies prospa8eies exoun KSANAginei.kai OLES exoun apotyxei PATAGWDWS.
O PAOKTSHS pleon kserei ti zhtaei,ti 8elei,ti perimenei apo ena PAOKtshdiko SITE.
O SALONIKIOS,ANTE AS POUME O BOREIOLADITHS PAOKTSHS exei thn megalyterh enhmerwsh afou efhmerides+radia+ekpompes sta topika kanalia EINAI OLA EFKOLOTATA PROSBASIMA se afton
O NOTIOELLADITHS MAZI ME TON PAOKTSH TU EKSWTERIKOU sigoura den exei ta parapanw,omws OPOIOS NOTIOELLADITHS H TU EKSWTERIKOU EXEI INTERNET pleon exei ta INTERNET RADIO tu-la-xi-ston opou AKOUEI-MA8AINEI osa perisotera k egyrotera mporei IDIWS apo tis syndesmitikes ekpompes MESA APO TA HXEIA TU PC TU.
KAI SIGOURA-den einai psema- exei TO PAOKWORLD alla kai ston ba8mo pou mporei se afton ton tomea KAI TO PAOK-ATHENS afou KYRIWS 8A ELEGA ME TO FORUM TU alla kai tis ANANEWSEIS o-tan kai o-pou xreiazetai sthn kentrikh selida EXEI ENHMERWSH APO THN PHGH TWN GEGONOTWN!
*eite apo emas pou pame se tumpa-palataki ktl
*eite apo emas otan katebainume kamia ekdromoula
(to 1000epanalambanw=8ewrw YSTATH KSEFTILA na 8ewrhsw oti paw EKDROMH sthn ksan8h!eleos!)
*to akribws antristrofo me ta paidia ;D tu paok-athens
*eite APO ESAS!NAI NAI E-S-A-S pou kanete ta idia h se mats evrwphs METAFERETE TA NEA apo THN PHGH!
apo ta tsimenta,apo ta leoforeia,apo ta stena.
EPILOGOS=me apla logia k kleinontas afto to 8ema O PAOKTSHS K IDIAETERA A-F-T-O-S pou MONO apo to internet MPOREI NA PLHROFORH8EI-PORW8EI-MA8EI gia ton PAOK....prwta exei kanei "internet-o-tsarka" se OLA ta a8lhtika portals/site....meta exei AKOUSEI tis ARKETES-doksa ton 8eo pleon-INTERNETIKES EKPOMPES(blepe enothta tu paokworld=PAOK LIVE)....kai meta "skaei" se paokworld & paok-athens.gr,ainte kai to paok-hellas....
TI loipon 8a tu prosferei ena site san to paoknews.com OTAN 8A MPAINEI K 8A DIABAZEI kai 8a anarwtietai-sympairenei:<<ma afta pou ta exw KSANAdiabasei?ma afta POU ta exw ksanadei?>>
LOGIKOTATES OI ERWTHSEIS MU DEN BRISKETE ?
ka8e arh omws k dyskolh,mh se parw kai apo ta aftia..
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gia na grapsw omws ligo sta grhgora POIA EINAI GIA MENA TA PIO SHMANTIKA PRAGMATA pou ena site kai oi syntelestes tu PREPEI NA PROSEKSOUN OTAN KSEKINANE:
1)ENA APLO PAMFTHNO SCANER
me me ena poso kapou sta 100euro,panw katw EINAI TO YPERAPARAITHTO wste na scanareis,na swseis apokomata efhmeridwn,fwtografies ktl ktl.DEN EXEI KAMIA SXESH ME WEB DESIGH,EINAI PANEFKOLO STHN XRHSH TU,AKOMA KAI ENA PAIDAKI BLAMENO! mporei na to xrhsimopoihsei
na scanarei,na swzei,na apo8hkevei tis fwtografies ston ypologisth tu,na tis bazei "sfragides" ktl ktl.to A KAI TO W se ena site pou opwsdhpote PREPEI NA EXEI YLIKO.
2)MIA FWTOGRAFIKH MHXANH H MIA PSHFIAKH FWTOGRAFIKH MHXANH
h psifiakh fwtografikh mhxanh einai TROMAKTIKH EFKOLIA gia osous fwtografizoun PAOKtshdiko yliko kai anti na dinun ta film gia emfanish..na ta scanaroun metaaaa......na ta apo8hkevoun sto pc tus....k meta na ta anebazoun.....APLA SYNDESOUN THN PSHFIAKH FWTOGRAFIKH MHXANH ME ENA KALODIAKI STO PC TUS!....kai tsoup! panefkola exoun glytwsei TON! KOPO!
3)apo ekei kai pera osa perigrafika exw hdh pei gia TROPOUS pou 8a ftiaksoun to site ktl ktl
4)epeidh omws H KATASKEVH SITE APO THN MIA EINAI-EILIKRINA AN OXI PANEFKOLO PRAGMA ,SIGOURO OXI DYSKOLO........einai as poume kati SAN NA MA8AINW NA ODHGW ENA AFTOKINHTO.....oso kalos kai na einai enas DASKALOS o ma8hths einai aftos pou prepei na MA8EI to symplekth/freno/gazi ktl ktl
MPEITE STA PARAKATW SITE OPOU OSOI 8ELETE PRAGMATIKA K SOBARA K XWRIS LEZANTES K BITRINES 8ELETE NA KANETE KATI PRAGMATIKA SOBARO K PAOKTSHDIKO K DIAXRONIKO...PISTEVW 8A BOH8H8HTE:
1) www.insomnia.gr
2) http://www.eeei.gr/odhgos/htmlfaq.htm me boh8hse para poly na katanohsw ta texnika kommatia ths html
3) http://www.geocities.com/tok7gr/
4) http://grjava.com/index.php epishs poly kalo
mporw an 8elete na balw pio polla..na balw perisotera....MIA OMWS EINAI H OUSIA:an kapoios exei skeftei TI 8elei na ftiaksei,PWS to fantazetai sto myalo tu,POSO exei kanei proergasia k sklhrh duleia gia afto 8A THN BREI THN AKRH 100%
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me apla logia k kleinontas afto to 8ema O PAOKTSHS K IDIAETERA A-F-T-O-S pou MONO apo to internet MPOREI NA PLHROFORH8EI-PORW8EI-MA8EI gia ton PAOK....prwta exei kanei "internet-o-tsarka" se OLA ta a8lhtika portals/site....meta exei AKOUSEI tis ARKETES-doksa ton 8eo pleon-INTERNETIKES EKPOMPES(blepe enothta tu paokworld=PAOK LIVE)....kai meta "skaei" se paokworld & paok-athens.gr,ainte kai to paok-hellas....
TI loipon 8a tu prosferei ena site san to paoknews.com OTAN 8A MPAINEI K 8A DIABAZEI kai 8a anarwtietai-sympairenei:<<ma afta pou ta exw KSANAdiabasei?ma afta POU ta exw ksanadei?>>
LOGIKOTATES OI ERWTHSEIS MU DEN BRISKETE ?
Ka8olou logikotates oi erwthseis sou Chris......
Gia na MHN xreiazete o ka8e na trexei se xilia dyo site na psaxnei ta nea tou PAOK , sto paoknews (efoson kratisei thn regoula thn ka8imerinh), 8a ta briskei ola mazemena !
GIATI na trexeis se 10 site an ta briskeis ola se ena ? ? ? ?
Mhn prodikazeis thn prospa8eia re sy ......
Ekatses kai egrapses enan agleoura ..... ton efages ton an8rwpo.
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ton efages ton an8rwpo.
thn alh8eia egrapsa basilh.den exw ma8ei na krybomai h na eimai efxaristos stous episkeptes :oute lefta pairnw apo to oti kanw sto kwlointernet,oute san pelates blepw ta palikaria pou ksodevoun tis wres tus sto dyktio opws egw,oute me endiaferei h -xaxa- isterofhmia mu an tyxon kapoius stenaxwroun oi apopseis mu....8elw na grafw thn alh8eia opws egw thn ais8anomai..
den mporw na BLEPW oute na synexisw NA BLEPW:
=reportaz apo ton prosfato agwna tou PAOK-iwnikos as poume kai na grafetai oti o kosmos den htan polus giati DEN PHGE TUMPA gia paradeigma(enw an kapoios htan sto ghpedo 8a edine mia pio plhrh eikona me to AKRIBO EISHTHRIO ka8ws K THN ANAKOINWSH GIA TON BAGELARO)
=oute mporw na KSANAANTEKSW na blepw se paromoia site-ypoti8emeno reportaz gia to mats ksan8h-PAOK prin kana 2mhno as poume K NA MHN GINETAI KOUBENTA GIA TA XHMIKA POU MAS RIXNAN OI MPATSOI H TA KASKOL PU MAS PERNAN STHN EISODO(an anantreksete sto TOPIC ekeinu tu mats 8a deite oti me anakoufish perimena na skasei ena palikari na pei TI AKRIBWS EGINE APO THN MERIA TU OPADOU k oxi apo afta pu 8a diabasei sta a8lhtika portal)
=kai h balitsa paei akoma pio makriaaaaa.....gia na mhn sas kourazw-milame gia ekeino to alhsmonhto mats to 2000-2001 mesa sthn leoforo kai thn TOTE APAGOREFSH TWN EKDROMWN pu eixan katebei 3 leoforeia dikwn mas....1 leoforeio eixe spasei to mploko sta diodia....kai osoi eixan paei STHN LEOFLORO XWRIS EISHTHRIA tote...tus "eixe mazepsei" h astynomia TOTE sthn sxolh evelpidwn-tsoubaliasma dhladh....ta PANO TUS ta eixan parei oi mpatsoi k ta eixan dwsei sta vazelia....KAI TO EPOMENO BRADY MESA STO TO-TE FORUM TU PAOK.COM kati dika mas PAOKtsakia EPEIDH EIXAN DEI SE ENA VAZELO-SITE TA PANO MAS....legane <<pw pw mas deirane,mas phrane ta pano!>>TETOIES PARAPLHROFORHSEIS H AN 8ELETE PAIDIA TETOIA ELLEIPH ENHMERWSH 8ELW NA PROLABW....katalabainete...
y.g.opws kai na exei EGW 8A EIMAI EDW gia opoiodhpote palikari gustarei na ftiaksei ena site kai 8a ton boh8aw me opoion tropo mporw.ARXH MAS allwste einai to oti an to paokworld meinei MONOPOLIO sthn enhmerwsh-porwsh-PAOK-o-poihsh 8a einai kati pou 8a odhghsei se stasimothta to PAOKtshdiko internet. 8)
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Diavasa me para poli prosoxi tis episimanseis tou Chris kai tis sevomai giati proerxontai apo ena paidi pou kai tin exei ''psaksei'' ti douleia kai exei peira se sxetika themata KAI perissotera gnwrizei oson afora ti leitourgia kai tin organwsi enos website.
Vevaia o skopos tou paoknews.com den einai na antikatastisei ta paronta site,alla exei kathara symplirwmatiko rolo.Giayto kai den epestisa tin prosoxi mou se pragmata pou idi yparxoun kai se ikanopoiitiko vathmo.Mporousa as poume na agorasw forum,poios o logos omws na ginei kati tetoio,afou yparxei hdh ena PLIRESTATO to opoio syntiroun apolytws synetoi moderators? H poios o logos na kanw AAAALLO ena site www.geocities.com/enaakomipaoktsidiositetismiaswras gia na ananewthei mia fora kai na ''pesei'' meta apo ena mina?
Vasiki arxi sti dimokratia einai h polyfwnia,kai eseis edw SWSTOTATA to exete tonisei ayto.Se allo topic exw diavasei tin dikaiologimeni orgi sas apo users typou ''Chris tha me kanete moderator sto paokworld?'' H ''BillyYpoglwssie mporeis na valeis to site mou prwto sta links?'' ''Dikefale giati den ananewneis kathe mera to site?'' KAI H EYLOGH APANTHSH SAS EINAI: ''RE TSAKALE,DEN KSEREIS TI KANW EGW STIN PROSWPIKH MOU ZWH KAI TI XRONO EXW STI DIATHESI MOU KAI STIN TELIKI DE SOY EIMAI YPOXREWMENOS SE TIPOTA!KANE DIKO SOU SITE''
H axaristia einai apo ta xeirotera pragmata kai eidika se atoma pou ksereis oti prosferoun, h piesh les kai einai ypoxrewmenoi na se ikanopoioun einai akatanoiti.H vash tou thematos einai oti h sxesi den einai PELATEIAKH, (se plirwnw,apaitw ikanopoiisi) ALLA AGAPHS (agapaw ton paok,agapaw tous paoktsides kai thelw na tous enimerwsw) giayto kai den xwrane apaitiseis-telesigrafa.O,ti thelei o allos tha sou kanei kai tha tou peis kai eyxaristw gia ayto pou kanei.
Ayta ola ta parapanw ta grapsa apla gia na deiksw to skeptiko pou odigise sto paoknews.com Gia A h B logous ta paronta site exoun elleipseis ston tomea tis ENHMERWSHS.Diladi ta nea tou P.A.O.K. ta diavazoume apo dimosiografous tis Athinas,tis Thessalonikis, apo plirwmenous anthrwpous pou OUTE logodotoun se kanenan oti lene tin alitheia se ayta pou grafoun OUTE ''aspromayro'' prisma exoun.
Egw ayto pou thelw na dwsw einai oute ena ''fantaxtero'' site apo apopsi programmatismou (exw ksekatharisei apo tin arxi sto sygkekrimeno tomea oti eimai psiloasxetos),alla na voithisw ekei pou pisteyw oti mporw.
To thema einai oti i internetiki eidiseografia den einai POUTHENA SXEDON prwtogenis.Vasizetai stis plirofories pou ''trexoun'' se efimerides,radiofwna kai eidiseografika praktoreia.Diladi einai tou stil ''Ston radiofwniko stathmo Arvila o Voulinos ekane dilwseis oti epistrefei ston paok''.Ayto ektos tou oti mporei na to kanei o kathenas,den ksereis kai tis PROTHESEIS tou gia na to grapsei se site.Polles fores grafontai pragmata ta opoia meta fainetai pws einai pseydi,alla skopo exoun ti dimiourgia entypwsewn.
Ti pleonektima exei to PAOKNEWS.COM? Oti einai eidiseis grammenes apo tin pleyra enos paoktsi,pou exei skopo na pliroforisei allos paoktsides. Ayto einai ena simantiko stoixeio pisteyw,to oti milame ''aspromayra''.
Phges yparxoun arketes.Katarxas prepei na pw oti den eimai Kyprios,apla ekei einai o topos pou spoudazw.To etos gia mena moirazetai se Thessaloniki (apo opou tygxanei na kanw to post twra :) ) kai ti Leykwsia.Sigoura ta pragmata edw oson afora tin enimerwsh einai poly kalytera,alla prin kanw to egxeirima me to site vrika tropo na eksasfalisw gia to diastima pou tha eimai stin Kypro 3 protoselida efimeridwn 2 tis thessalonikis kai 1 tis athinas,na exw prosvasi se 2 radiofwnikous stathmous tis Thessalonikis kai 1 tis Athinas (mesw adsl sto internet) kai amesi enimerwsi apo kala pliroforimena paidia sti thessaloniki.Diladi ayta pou tha grafontai den tha einai copy paste apo alla internetika site alla tha ta grafw egw o idios,pithanon kai alla ena-dyo paidia.
Osa copy-paste yparxoun mexri stigmis einai oxi se ameso eidiseografiko epipedo,alla se deytereyonta.As poume sto meros tis istorias tou paok yparxoun HDH plirestera site (milisa gia to skopo tou site parapanw) opws to site tou kyriou Moula h to paok.de pou dinoun analytika tin istoria,de vrika logo na ta parapoihsw i na ta grapsw me dika mou logia giati panta elloxeyei o kindynos tis alloiwsis.
To paoknews.com einai ena site anoixto apolyta diladi opoios goustarei mporei na mou steilei deka fwtografies tou paok i to arthro tou kai na dimosieytei me to onoma tou apo katw.Komplex kai egwkentrismos leipoun,kai opoios pragmatika epithymei na voithisei einai anektimitos ws filos kai synergatis.
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Na po kai go thn gnomh moy an moy epitrepetai?
Katarxhn sygxarhthria gia thn prospa8eia soy file petrovgr. Kalh epityxia kai kalo koyragio!
Etoimazomoyna na "symboylepso" kai go me vash thn empeiria moy omos ta pragmata poy skopeya na toniso eida me xara moy oti hdh ta skefthkes sxedon kai sy o idios.
An moy epitrepetai loipon na po kai go thn gnomh moy:
A)Opoiadhpote nea dhmioyrgikh proapa8eia se otidhpote (kataskeyh site, idrysh syndesmoy klp) kindyneyei apo thn grhgorh egkataleipsh. Dhladh pernaei o arxikos en8oysiasmos kai syntoma h proapa8eia egkataleipetai. Symboylh: Aytes oi prospa8eies otan einai omadikes kratane perissotero. Bres loipon synergates na moiraseis thn prospa8eia. Alla apo thn allh prosoxh. Polloi yposxontai boh8eia alla sto telos eite epeidh koyrasthkan eite epeidh goystaroyn ta megala logia kai oxi ta erga thn kanoyn me elfra phdhmatakia.. Ara symperasma bres synergates alla synergates poy den 8a se kremasoyn.Ayta os genikh topo8ethsh.
b)Einai poly kalo poy agorases domain. ayto deixnei kat arxhn sobarothta sthn prospa8eia soy. Alla akoma kai gia sena 8a einai kalo afoy os gnoston o ka8enas ponaei ta lefta poy vazei kai prospa8ei na piasoyn topo.
c)Ego prosopika den eimai ka8oloy anti8etos me to copy-paste. O Chris einai allergikos ;)Den brisko tpt kako sthn antigrafh apo alla site. Alloste opos eipes kai sy sto internet to yliko spania einai protogenes.
ALLA
8eoro aparithto na anafereis tis phges soy dioti:
c1)Ayto einai to sosto deontologika
c2)An anafereis mellontika eidhsheis oi opoies einai patates na apofygeis na fas esy tis moytzes alla kai o angnosths na krinei poios poylhse thn patata.
d)Ayto me ta protoselida klp 8a soy to proteina alla hdh to exeis kanei kai sy opote pao passo.Safos boh8ietai h plhroforhsh perissotero otan einai anoikth se perissoteres fones. (Bebaia merikes fores h yperplhroforhs katanataei paraplhroforhsh alla ayto einai entelos prosopikh apopsh. Pantos na exeis ypopsin oti oi ekdotes akoloy8oyn sygkekrimenes grammes aki praktikes opos kai oi dhmosiografoi alloste)
e)Kati to opoio epishs hdh skefthkes einai ena diktyo synergaton. Einai poly eykolo se oipondhpote apo emas eide
ena ar8ro sto internet na soy to steilei me link. Etsi loipon xreiazetai mia omada psaradon. Etsi kai sy noio8eis dikaiomenos sthn prospa8eia soy kai to site ginetai pio symmetoxiko. Prosopika 8a moy arese na diabazo oxi toso eidhseis (toy styl einai traymatias o Markos) alla analyseis (toy styl oi metoxes toy Mpatman kai to Xrhmatisthrio apo thn Naytemporiki)
f)Telos kalo 8a htan na breis enan tropo na arxeio8eteis tis eidhseis oste na ginei mia kalh vash dedomenon gia to mellon. To 8eoro poly shmantiko ayto.
Ayta apo mena os prosopikh gnomh (elpizo na mhn ekleif8ei os ypodeiksh) kai pali eyxomai kalh epityxia
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Etsi kai sy noio8eis dikaiomenos sthn prospa8eia soy kai to site ginetai pio symmetoxiko. Prosopika 8a moy arese na diabazo oxi toso eidhseis (toy styl einai traymatias o Markos) alla analyseis (toy styl oi metoxes toy Mpatman kai to Xrhmatisthrio apo thn Naytemporiki)
xrhstos=isws afto telika na h8ela na ekfrasw @homo me ta parapanw post mu milwntas gia copy-paste eidhseis.etsi nai ,pragmatika to www.paoknews.com 8a "rizwsei" sto internet kati pou oloi mas to 8eloume kai to epikrotoume
f)Telos kalo 8a htan na breis enan tropo na arxeio8eteis tis eidhseis oste na ginei mia kalh vash dedomenon gia to mellon. To 8eoro poly shmantiko ayto.xrhstos=kai afto einai mia poly kalh idea ka8ws agorasto einai to site kai ara yparxei doksa to 8eo arketos xwros e?
Ayta apo mena os prosopikh gnomh (elpizo na mhn ekleif8ei os ypodeiksh) kai pali eyxomai kalh epityxia
homo me kalypses me to olo post su synolika.exw k exoume dei polla ma polla site na "anebainoun" kai na "peftoun" san fotobolides,san enas aplos en8ousiasmos ths stigmhs ,kai isws gia afto k egw eimun ligaki apotomos k epifylaktikos afou "ama kaeis me ton xylo fysas kai to giaourti" :P
eipame edw eimaste na boh8hsoume me tis oses k opoies gnwseis exoume apo thn "TEXNIKH PLEVRA TOU PWS STHNW ENA SITE" ton opoiodhpote 8elei na kanei ena site(eite syndesmou,eite genikou periexomenou,eite eidikou-px site mono gia basket?kserw gw?)
na milhsoume,na antalaksoume apopseis k gnwseis,na ma8ei o enas apo ton allon.
einai TOSO TO YLIKO KAI TOU POSA MPOROUME NA KANOUME STO INTERNET GIA TON PAOK POU PRAGMATIKA XREIAZOMASTE POLLOI ERGATES KAI KALOI BEBAIA.
empros loipon na kanoume PAOKtshdiko to internet
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Re petrovgr kanwklik sto
http://www.geocities.com/enaakomipaoktsidiositetismiaswras (http://www.geocities.com/enaakomipaoktsidiositetismiaswras)
kai mou vgazei oti den iparxei... ???
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:lol:
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Re su petrov kano klik sto ar8ro gia gramma sto contra kai mou bgazei to parasidh to ar8ro. Stou 8odora einai sosto anoigei parasidhs.doc alla oxi sto contra. Ego leo na ta kaneis ta ar8ra na anoigoun se allh selida kai oxi se files. Prosopikh apopsh mou fenetai poio boliko.
Kalh sunexeia
Makhs
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Re su petrov kano klik sto ar8ro gia gramma sto contra kai mou bgazei to parasidh to ar8ro. Stou 8odora einai sosto anoigei parasidhs.doc alla oxi sto contra. Ego leo na ta kaneis ta ar8ra na anoigoun se allh selida kai oxi se files. Prosopikh apopsh mou fenetai poio boliko.
Kalh sunexeia
Makhs
Akrivos to idio patheno ki ego ::)
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To lathos einai diko mou kai exei na kanei me tous proorismous twn arthrwn ::)
Tha diorthwthoun ayta amesa.Anevikan arketa sto site, ta vasika simeia tis synenteyksis Pantelaki simera mesimeri, arthro ''P.A.O.K. kai politiki (oi)'' kai gia to domain tou paok sto site tis uefa.Etoimazetai preview gia to paok-iraklis kai me ti dynami tou Theou tha ta kataferoume ola ;D
Oson afora ta arthra se morfi .doc , einai sxetiko me ton web browser tou kathenos.Stin diki mou ekdosi as poume otan kaneis klik panw sto link anoigei to arthro mesw internet explorer. Outws i allws omws, protimisa ti morfi word giati etsi mporei o kathenas oxi apla na ta vlepei,alla kai na ta apothikeysi ston ypologisti tou.
O,ti provlima yparxei me to site please paidia enimerwste gia tin kaliteri leitourgia tou site.Episis o,ti arthro-fwtografia-sxolio-paragrafo-episimansi thelete, to e-mail mou edw sto profile einai,alla yparxei kai eidiko link ''contact'' stin prwti selida tou paoknews. 8)
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http://www.tip.gr/dev/index.asp
ena -epishs kai panta kata thn tapeinh mu gnwmh-poly kalo site gia na ka8odhghsei,na dwsei na katalaboun,na apanthsei se apories tus mesw tu forum tu OSOUS 8ELOUN NA FTIAKSOUN ENA SITE eite me programata opws to DREAMWEAVER ths makromedia eite to FRONT PAGE ths microsoft ,eite opoiodhpote allo,eite se AGORASMENO server ,eite se FREE SERVER san thn geocities as poume.
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To domain to exw agorasei einai www.paoknews.com
To pira apo ta geocities.Ekei to programma pou exei,an kai einai eyxristo gia arxarious,sxediazei to site pros ta aristera (afinei megalo keno sta deksia pou den mporeis na valeis tipota) kai genika ws pros tin emfanisi den ''fysaei'' kiolas...
ante na boh8hsw ligo "ton kyprio PAOKtsh pou den einai kyprios" ;D
mpainontas sto www.paoknews.com kai apo ton explorer mu phga sto Tools>Source opou k koitaksa ton html kwdika tu site.o logos pou to site einai "steno" einai logw tu parakatw:
<table width=650 height=177 border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0><tr valign="top">
PWS mporeis na allakseis afto to PLATOS?ta 650pixels dhladh?
kapou prepei na exei to pagebuilder PAGE PROPERTIES.phgaine ekei kai plaaatyneeee to ;D
SHMEIWSH=genika protimhse to PLATOS ka8e selidas NA EINAI TO POLY MEXRI 760 giati h pleiopshfia twn O8ONWN einai 15ares.
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eyxaristw gia ola xristara 8)
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Poly kalh prospa8eia file petrovgr...KEEP GOING...
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Einai pragmatika polu kali i prospateia sou @petrovgr. Ta sigxaritiria olwn mas exeis.
Auta pou sou leei o Xristakos einai swsta ! Na ton akous to palio... oloi mas paideutikame kai pote selides mas den vgikan teleies apo tin arxi. Ena soro mlks mporoun na ginoun apo dika sou lathi oso ki apo tous servers pou mas kratane. :12:
Pote den prepei na pernoume egwistika ta pragmata , panta na rwtame ,na mathainoume kai na ginomaste kaluteroi palikaroi , giati pragmatika exoume meinei pisw se themata site klp klp. Ennoeitai oti opoiadippote aporia exeis sxetika me programmata , duskolies pou sunantas ... edw eimaste .
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Wraia i epistoli sou sto contra.
Sto FANS exeis tin thira4 sto paok-thira4.com
alla an kaneis klik vgainei "page cannot be found".
Forza petrovgr
einai giati to SWSTO site einai www.paokg4.org apla ek paradromhs apo kapou 8a eide k 8a ebale ena link pou den yparxei.
ama 8eleis kiolas @petrovgr bale stis syndeseis su kai to
www.paoksites.tk
kai plhrestato einai
kai ananewnetai syxna
kai o pio enhmerwmenos KOMBOS sites tu PAOK einai
kai su lynontai ta xeria k fevgeis apo thn ypoxrewsh:"bale kai to diko mu siteee,bale kai to diko mu siteeee"(bazeis ta osa site gustareis kai gia ta ypoloipa "analambanei" to paoksites.tk 8) )
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;)
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paidia psaxnontas brhka kai afto to site > http://www.about-internet.com/
para poly kalo kata thn gnwmh mu ,sta ellhnika kai me polles plhrofories k apanthseis se erwthseis oswn 8eloun na ftiaksoun ena site
EMPROS NA KANUME ASPROMAVRO TO INTERNET-EPITELOUS 8)
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Thanks gia tin voitheia Chris kai Dikefalos kai Billy kai oloi genika ;D Eidika gia tin ananewsi stin kentriki selida pou etsi polla paidia emathan gia to paoknews
Allaksa progamma kathws to frontpage einai poly pio eyxristo kai mporw na to douleyw kai offline.Genika einai poly pio aplo sti xrisi kai sti dimosieysi, otan omws vazw counter ayto einai ''kollimeno'' sto 1! diladi de leitourgei.Mipws kserei kanenas pws mporw na to ftiaksw i apo pou mporw na vrw ena counter ? ???
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A ksexasa to pio simantiko! ::)
Sta plaisia tou na kanoume ena Eniaio Aspromayro Internet, Sto site leitourgei hdh ena section opou o,ti dimosieysi kai ananewsi ginetai se ''aspromayro'' site mpainei neo kai syntomeysi pou ''stelnei'' kateytheian stin en logw ananewsi.
Giati se teliki analysi o PAOKtsis pou mpainei sto net den exei tin anesi oute to xrono na episkeptetai kathimerina 30 site gia na vlepei poio ananewthike kai poio oxi.
Ayto tha fainetai sto
http://www.paoknews.com/ASPROMAYROINTERNET.htm
Den yposxomai oti tha ''pianw'' kai tin paramikri ananewsi, alla nomizw to na mpei mia tetoia ypiresia tha voithisei
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Geia xara, kai sygxarhthria gia to site kai kyriws...kouragio ;)
Oson afora tis erwthseis sou:
1. To counter tou frontpage einai outws h allws mapa giati metraei hits kai oxi visitors. Auto pou se proteinw einai na pas na psa3eis sto internet ena kalo kai dwrean counter kai na to kotsareis sthn selida sou... Apla 8a prepei na kaneis copy/paste ton kwdika.
2. H enothta me ta "nea apo alla sites" einai para poly kalh douleia dystyxws omws nomizw oti 8a kourasteis afantasta ka8ws apaitei poly xrono sou ka8e mera... Kai pali, kouragio!
PAOK PANTOU!
Dikefalos
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Geia xara, kai sygxarhthria gia to site kai kyriws...kouragio ;)
Oson afora tis erwthseis sou:
1. To counter tou frontpage einai outws h allws mapa giati metraei hits kai oxi visitors. Auto pou se proteinw einai na pas na psa3eis sto internet ena kalo kai dwrean counter kai na to kotsareis sthn selida sou... Apla 8a prepei na kaneis copy/paste ton kwdika.
2. H enothta me ta "nea apo alla sites" einai para poly kalh douleia dystyxws omws nomizw oti 8a kourasteis afantasta ka8ws apaitei poly xrono sou ka8e mera... Kai pali, kouragio!
PAOK PANTOU!
Dikefalos
www.bravenet.com
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to bravenet einai sigoura mia kalh kai dokimasmenh lysh, alla ean gia kapoio logo den se aresei, 8a se proteina to http://top.addfreestats.com/afc.html
Dikefalos
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To evala to bravenetaki tzami einai ;D
''kopse'' kai to intro pou paizei stin arxi,einai empneysi dimarko.
Re Dikefalos tilepatheia eixame?
Valame sto update sxedon ton idio titlo :D
''pame opws persi'' - ''pame san persi''
Makari na pame kiolas :04a:
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makari!
:05a:
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den 8ymamai an sas anefera gia to http://www.freestuff.gr
alla exei ena FORUM MOURLIA me para polles symboules k xrhsimes odhgies gia osous FTIAXNOUN h 8ELOUN NA FTIAKSOUN site.
ena poly kalo "ar8ro" einai kai to parakatw:
http://www.freestuff.gr/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3535
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ananewmeno to eida to www.paoknews.com apo apopsh desigh,kai apo oti katalaba @petrovgr prepei na xrhsimopoieies pleon to DREAMWEAVER ths makromedia?mia poly kalh epilogh,opws kai eida oti pleon xrhsimopoieis PINAKES/TABLES gia to desigh.to A kai to W gia mena oi pinakes wste na exeis ena gamato optiko apotelesma alla kai poly praktiko.
http://www.freestuff.gr/tutorials fantastikes odhgies se afto to link gia osous 8eloun na asxolh8oun me to webdesigh
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Oxi synexizw sto frontpage, alla allaksa template etsi wste na xrisimopoiw perissotero pinakes.Vevaia den exoun mpei oles oi selides akomi sto template, alla ayto einai kati pou tha xreiastei polli douleia.Ola tha ginoun ;D
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[url]http://www.freestuff.gr/tutorials[/url] fantastikes odhgies se afto to link gia osous 8eloun na asxolh8oun me to webdesigh
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Loipon edw kai kairo h selida mou filoksenountan apo tin otenet...Epeidi se ligo kairo tha diakopsw to symvolaio mou tha ithela na mou proteinetai kapoia site pou dinoun dwrean xwro sto internet..Typou geocities gia paradeigma..Poia einai kala kai poia dinoun ton megalytero xwro???
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Loipon edw kai kairo h selida mou filoksenountan apo tin otenet...Epeidi se ligo kairo tha diakopsw to symvolaio mou tha ithela na mou proteinetai kapoia site pou dinoun dwrean xwro sto internet..Typou geocities gia paradeigma..Poia einai kala kai poia dinoun ton megalytero xwro???
pane sto www.google.com (mia apo tis poly kales mhxanes anazhthshs) kai bale sto "psaxthri" tu -> FREE WEB SPACE 8)
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Thanx chris :09:
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Mια και υπάρχει η σχετική ενότητα να αναφέρω και δύο ιστοσελίδες (forum) που θα βοηθήσουν αρκετούς
www.vcdc.gr
www.3dots.gr
μαζί με το freestuff.gr συμπληρώνουν για μένα το τρίο των καλύτερων ελληνικών forum/ιστοσελίδων αφιερωμένων στο webdesign.
Α!Υπάρχει και το http://www.away.gr
;)