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Title: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore on May 25, 2004, 19:09:29: eina olofanero oti vriskomaste se nea epohi.
tha xekinhsw anapoda. prin diavasete omws na sas pw na mi viastite n vgalete simperasmata,min arhisoun merikoi pali ta gnwsta oti twra pou eimaste sta panw mas psahnomaste kai kanoume kako stin omada kai tetoies malakies, kaneis den psahnete , milame gia pragmata pou ginane kai den mporei na ta amfisvitisei kaneis, opws kaneis den mporei na mas ypoxrewsei na ginoume marionetes sto theatro pou paizetai

perisi tetoia epohi...

o PAOK xrwstouse peri ta 5 dis ... o batman mia itan poulaw mia den poulaw... sto metaxi feuvgoun apo tin omada oi gnwstoi pou fugane na min ta xanalame, kapaki emfanizete o goumenos me ta lefta pou kerdise sto loto kai linei prwsorina ta provlimata toy PAOK exasfalizontas tin simetohi tou sto prwtathlima.koutsa koutsa afou fygane osoi vrikane allou omada mas menoyne me to 1/3 twn xrimatwn pou pernane oi palioi kai anevenoyn apo tin erasitaehniki 7-8 paiktes. Kanoume kai kapies metagrafes nearwn me bajet 150.00 euro kai pame proetimasia .
klirwsh toy prwtathlimatos kai prwth agwnistiki me gavro keklismenwn... olos o kosmos tou PAOK fwnazei ektos apo tin dioikhsh.

o kosmos me to myalo sto na fygei o batman ehei mpei pleon sti logiki tou na haramisthei mia xronia na fygei o karkinos kai meta vlepoume, afou xeirotera den ginete
apo mme topika kaliergite ston kosmo i idea oti tin omada tin pirane sta heria tous paoktsides , prwsopika gia prwth fora vlepw na mi trwne polemo apo fulades kai radia dioikountes tou PAOK.
O aggelos einai katholikis apodohis apo ton kosmo kai stin ousia autos pou stirizei tin omada kai tin dioikhsh.

Sta agwnistika oti leei o aggelos ginete.. i omada thelei xrono... meta apo 2-3 mines xwris na paizei mpala pairnei apotelesmata. SIga siga paizei kai ligo mpalitsa kerdizei kai ton gavro kai arxizoun ta paramilita gia prwtathlimata ktl.
fisiologika xefouskwnoume sto telos parola ayta kratame tin triti thesh logw kektimenis tahititas kai aniparxias twn allwn.

fetos itan i monadiki xronia pou i omada den eihe anhos , den piestike apo ton kosmo kai tautoxrona vgike kai prwth se eisitiria, o kosmos tin stirixe kai itan pio wrimos apo pote.
gia emena ekei ofeilete kata 90% i epitihia, ekei panw pathse o aggelos kai ekane omada ton PAOK.
den einai apokistikh epitihia oyte toy aggeloy ,oyte twn paiktwn oyte toy kosmoy. kai poly perisotero tis dioikhshs.
vghkame cl logw sigiriwn , eleipsh tritou, kai ayto to deihnei kai i terastia diafora pou ehei i aek apo olympiako- panathinaiko. Apo ekei kai pera pragmata pou nomizame to kalokairi oti tha mas pane pisw mas voithisan... To oti i omada epeze gia ta 2/3 tou prwtathlimatos xwris anhos einai to simantikotero olwn. Xeroume kala ti pathainei o PAOK otan paizei me anhos, ehoume hasei prwtathlimata, kipela exodous cl , pote den kataferame na shkwsoume san omada to varos kai to anhos pou dimiourgei o kosmos pou ehei megales apaithseis... kai den tha alaxei pote ayto an den paixoune ston PAOK paiktes antaxioi twn prosdokiwn pou pou dhmiourgountai apo ton kosmo, oso talantouxi ki an einai oi pitsirikades oso terastios proponitis kai an einai o aggelos. me pordes omada den kaneis.

Stis meres mas twra, enw genika den pairnw efimerides kai ayto giati den prolavanw na tis diavasw, edw kai mia edvomada pairnw ta spor kathimerina, kathe mera ..ma kathe mera apo tis 4 selides pou ehoun gia ton PAOK stis 3 grafoune
gia tin anagh tou PAOK na krathsei tous paiktes pou ehei me akoma hamilotera simvolaia, kai na min anoixtei se metagrafes.
milame re mages ama pareis ta fyla ena ena to copy paste den pianei mia ... kathe mera ta idia kai ta idia , pairnw kai xnanpairnw tin skatofulada na dw pote tha stamathsoun tin plisi egefalou.
A nai, tynhanei vevaiws oloi oi dimosiografoi na ehoun koinh grami sto thema pou efaptete me ayth twn dioikountwn kai tou aggelou. Xafnika diladh gia prwth fora sta xronika oi efimerides den kanoun kako ston PAOK alla ta vriskoun ola wraia kai kala. vre pws wrimasame fetos oloi...ti wraia....
Kathe mera olo kai kapios 30+ kleinei ston paok gia alla 1+1 xronia kai o dimosiografiskos to kanei prwtoselido...
den tha ginoun leei metagrafes, tha ftiaxoume omada...

nai re mages , edw mesa to ehw pei poles fores den me noiazei to gamhmeno to cl pros to paron, ki egw omada thelw na ftiaxoume ki as min vgainoume oyte uefa 2 xronia. alla rwtaw , etsi ginontai oi omades? xerete eseis kanenan pou na ekane omada xwris lefta? xerete kamia omada pou na thelei na paixei prwtagwnistiko rolo me baget to ena eikosto twn antagwnistwn tis?

sta logia ola kala einai kai oso douleuoune ta mme kai o aggelos gia tous pagwnidogoumenous akoma kalitera giati to trwei to paramithi kai o kosmos.
to fetino bajet einai akoma pio hamilo apo to persino, milame gia bajet ionikou kai akrathtou kai oxi omadas san ton PAOK.
oikonomia kai litotita stin pae.... afou sinithise o kosmos kai den fwnazei pelon gia metagrafes kai vgainoume kai cl malakes einai na alaxoun kai ama kati den paei kala na trehoun/?

akougete oti ta diarkias tha paizoun 40-50% pio panw kai oti den tha ehei mesa ta mats tou cl...
a tha ehoume kai 15 soutes tou xronou, kati akousa gia 1500 euro auto de me noaizei kai poly giati xerw oti den tha to plirwsei o kosmakis, as tis valoune kai 3000 to mats kai makari na tis pairnoune na konomane oi ligourides.
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twra auta peri paoktsidwn ktl as ta poune allou, poloi itane kai o voulinos PAOKtshs itane kai malista poly perisotero apo aytous. kai o froutemporas akomi pio poly kai apo to voulino kai apo polous apo emas... den vgainei akri etsi... o kathenas krinete,kaneis den prepei na einai sto apirovlito ,einai akrws epikindino auto.

emena den mou aresoun kapoia pragmata kai ta lew, an perisi tetoia epohi tous edwse o theios ta fraga, kai pistepsane me ayta ta lefta tha anasthsoun ton paok , xalafrwnontas tautoxrona tin omada apo ta megala simvolaia auto den einai kai toso kako... kako omws kai megalo malista einai na douleueis ton kosmo meta apo ena xrono paristanontas mera nixta ton swthra me tis plates kai tis avantes pou den eihe pote kanenas pou dioikouse ton PAOK.
kai epeidh den mporw na apodeixw apo edw mesa pws edwse ta fraga o theios napiasoume kai tin alli periptwsh...
tote einai akoma pio poustiko ayto pou kanane, afou afhsane ton PAOK na dialithei gia na analavoun kameni gh, kai ws gnwston to kameno fwtia xana den pairnei, apo ton pato mono pros ta panw pas pio katw den ehei. xehasa, swsane tin omada apo tin g ethniki re, einai kai auto... bravo tous... kala pou htane ki autoi alliws twra tha paizame me ton fwsthra...

Etsi ginomouna kai egw proedros ston PAOK, kai o misos kosmos tou PAOK. Xwris na valoun lefta me to 1/10 twn exodwn pou eihe alles xronies i omada me rithmiseman ta xreh kai me 100% thetikous apologismous gia ta epomena xronia.
Me proponiti pou kanei hilies doihkitikes douleies mesa stin omada kai tous anoigei ta matia ekei pou ehoun autoi mesanixta..tous kathise kai to cl kai twra pios tous pianei... kai emas pios mas xipnaei apo ta oneira...
koitame panta to simera ma pote to aurio, simera eimaste kala opws leei o aggelos kai ehei o theos gia aurio...

to xerw oti merikous mporei na sas stenahwroun ayta kai na min thelete na ta dextite, i alitheia ponaei merikes fores kai emena poy ta lew kai ta pisteuw me ponaei epishs alla ti na kanoume... ehw faei toso papa stin zwh mou apo tin tyfli mou agapi gia ton PAOK pou den paei allo.

den me peirazei pleon pou einai ayth i katastash giati pisteuw oti eimaste axioi tis moiras mas ... auto mas axizei ayto pairnoume , san paoktsides kai san ellines...
kai einai tetoio to epipedo genikotera stin ellada pou to na milame gia ygeih swmatia sto podosfairo einai trela... opios vgainei kai leei oti tha kanw omada i lamogio einai i den xerei ti tou ginete...

ps. telika me ayta ta lefta tou alpha pou o batman ypexerese apo ton PAOK ti skata ginete? giati i omada me ayta ta fraga swnotane kai evgaine kai apo panw xwris swthres... alla etsi einai ola ehoun to timima tous
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: 8emhs on May 25, 2004, 20:44:47: Ti proteineis; As poume oti dexomaste auta pou grafeis, ti proteineis ws enallaktikh lush;

1. Na kanoume polemo sth dioikhsh;
2. Na kanoume apoxh apo to ghpedo;
3. Na psaksoume to "megalo ependuth" pou 8a dwsei ston PAOK "th dunamikh pou aksizei ston terastio lao tou" mpla, mpla, mpla...
4. Na kanoume megales metagrafes (p.x. Tsiartas) kai meta me mia nila sta prokrimatika tou CL na trexoume kai na mh ftanoume gia na kseplhrwnoume ta panakriva sumvolaia;

Egw pantws den katalavainw ti proteineis. Ki egw protimaw na paizoume me Zidane kai Figo para me Zavantia kai Karadhmo. Alla de ginetai. Kai protimw budget Iwnikou an prokeitai na exoume 8etiko proupologismo kai na mh xrwstame kai sthn koutsh Maria. Kai o kosmos twra prepei na sthriksei thn omada. Dhladh ti perimenei gia na thn sthriksei na ginoun oi megales metagrafes kai meta na paei sto ghpedo; 8umasai poios mas ekane tis teleutaies megales metagrafes. O Batman fusika....
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore on May 25, 2004, 21:26:32: ante pali arhisame
diladi kaneis den mporei na katalavei ti leme edw pera?
lew re file themi pouthena na min stirixoume tin omada?
mipws lew gia apohi ktl? esy ta les ayta... pali lathos ermineuontai ayta pou grafw... pes kati apo ola ayta pou den einai alitheia, kati pou esy eheis alli apopsi kai na to sizitisoume, den vlepw omws kati tetoio, apo tin mia den sholiazeis tipota, ara gnwrizeis kai katalavaineis oti einai alitheia kai apo tin alli omws antidras me mia logiki pou emena prwsopika den mou arkei... to na min kaneis tipota einai allo thema kai allo einai na min vlepeis kai na min katalavaineis ti dialo paizete i estw na mi thes na deis kai na katalaveis...
to ti protheseis ehei ayth i dioikhsh kai pws pire ton PAOK egw file to xerw, ... twra an epeidh vgike cl i omada nomizeis oti prepei na min milame paw paso... ama halame ton ypno se merikous kai tous kovoume ta oneira pou vlepoun as valoune otosapides sta autia tous na min akoune
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: gate4 on May 25, 2004, 21:31:34: Quote from: 8emhs on May 25, 2004, 20:44:47
Ti proteineis; As poume oti dexomaste auta pou grafeis, ti proteineis ws enallaktikh lush;

1. Na kanoume polemo sth dioikhsh;
2. Na kanoume apoxh apo to ghpedo;
3. Na psaksoume to "megalo ependuth" pou 8a dwsei ston PAOK "th dunamikh pou aksizei ston terastio lao tou" mpla, mpla, mpla...
4. Na kanoume megales metagrafes (p.x. Tsiartas) kai meta me mia nila sta prokrimatika tou CL na trexoume kai na mh ftanoume gia na kseplhrwnoume ta panakriva sumvolaia;

Egw pantws den katalavainw ti proteineis. Ki egw protimaw na paizoume me Zidane kai Figo para me Zavantia kai Karadhmo. Alla de ginetai. Kai protimw budget Iwnikou an prokeitai na exoume 8etiko proupologismo kai na mh xrwstame kai sthn koutsh Maria. Kai o kosmos twra prepei na sthriksei thn omada. Dhladh ti perimenei gia na thn sthriksei na ginoun oi megales metagrafes kai meta na paei sto ghpedo; 8umasai poios mas ekane tis teleutaies megales metagrafes. O Batman fusika....

file basika o tiore den se proteinei tipota apo ta parapanw, den grafei pouthena kati tetoio. apla se perigrafei mia katastasi. den se eipe oute na fugei o goumenos, oute oti o aggelos den einai kalos proponitis kai PAOKtsis, oute tipota apo ola auta pou anakalupses esu.
apla se perigrafei mia katastasi.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: Londrezos on May 25, 2004, 21:31:56: @tiore diavase th synenteykh poy edwse o Aggelos shmera. Pistevw oti 8a vreis polles apanthseis kai polla endiaferonta pragmata...

H alh8eia mporei na ponaei alla alh8eia einai kai to oti o PAOK vghke tritos enw akoma xrwstaei ta malliokefala toy...
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: bane on May 25, 2004, 21:41:08: τιορε για πιο πρωταθλημα μιλας ; πια ανυπαρξια αλλων ; ουτως η΄αλλως ολοι καποια ανυπαρξια αλλων βρισκουν και πανε ψηλα. θεωρεις πρωταθλημα να εχει ο βαζελος 25-4-1 ;οι αλλοι τι κανουνε ;τοσο σταθερος ειναι ο βαζελος σε μια περιοδο 9 μηνων ; κοιλια δεν κανει ; τα ιδια και ο γαβρος .μηπως παιξανε αυτοι οι δυο καλυτερα απο εμας φετος ;οχι βεβαια ; αλλα να παρουν το πρωταθλημα αυτο και να το βαλουν στον πατο τους .προεδροι που κοιτανε μονο τα εισητηρια , ομαδες που ανοιγουν τα ποδια τους σε αυτους τους δυο και τελειωνουν ακου ,ακου τη σεζον με μια ηττα ;;ειναι φυσιολογικο αυτο ; σιγα την ομαδα του βαζελου . γιγα τον γαβρο .για μενα ο ΠΑΟΚ εσκασε τον τελευταιο μηνα . δεν ειχε παγκο .και οσοι κανανε καλη χρονια περυσι φετος ηταν τραυματιες .ητανε θαυμα το φετινο .μην τα ξαναλεμε .3 αγωνιστικες πριν το τελος και η διαφορα μας με τον γαβρο ηταν το χαμενο πεναλτυ του γιασεμη .με ολα αυτα που τραβηξαμε φετος
παντωσ δεν σου ριχνω αδικο .σε πολλα εχεις δικιο κατ΄εμε. αλλα πρεπει να περιμενουμε.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: gate4 on May 25, 2004, 21:43:48: kanenas den eipe na min perimenoume, ennoeitai. alla oxi kai opoios exei mia diaforetiki apopsi einai anthugeiinos. den leei etsi.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: bane on May 25, 2004, 21:48:50: ετσι ειναι .εγω δεν διαφωνω. παντως το καλο ειναι οτι τον ΠΑΟΚ μας τον ονειρευομαστε σωστα τελικα και θετικα. μπραβο μας .
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore on May 25, 2004, 21:51:37: bane grameno to ehw to prwtathlima tou kolou pou paizoune 14 omades tis athinas...

egw epiklentrwnomai ston tropo kai stis protheseis tis dioikhshs kiriws, giati poly eukola xehname merika pragmata.

kai einai kai alla pola ma para pola pou ehw na grapsw gia na katalavoun merikoi oti den alaxe tipota... tespa prepei na fygw twra tha ta poume argotera
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: bane on May 25, 2004, 21:55:22: και εγω εχω να γραψω αλλα γραφω απο την δουλεια οποτε μπορω και το κακο ειναι οτι ιντερνετ εχουμε μεχρι τις 22:00 με τον μαλακα τον αντμινιστρατορη. τα λεμε αυριο μαγκες
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore on May 26, 2004, 01:12:13: Quote from: bane on May 25, 2004, 21:55:22
και εγω εχω να γραψω αλλα γραφω απο την δουλεια οποτε μπορω και το κακο ειναι οτι ιντερνετ εχουμε μεχρι τις 22:00 με τον μαλακα τον αντμινιστρατορη. τα λεμε αυριο μαγκες

αντμινιστρατορη... ti einai pali ayto re palikare? o amdin sta italika einai?
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: 8emhs on May 26, 2004, 13:27:44: Quote from: tiore on May 25, 2004, 21:26:32
ante pali arhisame
diladi kaneis den mporei na katalavei ti leme edw pera?
lew re file themi pouthena na min stirixoume tin omada?
mipws lew gia apohi ktl? esy ta les ayta... pali lathos ermineuontai ayta pou grafw... pes kati apo ola ayta pou den einai alitheia, kati pou esy eheis alli apopsi kai na to sizitisoume, den vlepw omws kati tetoio, apo tin mia den sholiazeis tipota, ara gnwrizeis kai katalavaineis oti einai alitheia kai apo tin alli omws antidras me mia logiki pou emena prwsopika den mou arkei... to na min kaneis tipota einai allo thema kai allo einai na min vlepeis kai na min katalavaineis ti dialo paizete i estw na mi thes na deis kai na katalaveis...
to ti protheseis ehei ayth i dioikhsh kai pws pire ton PAOK egw file to xerw, ... twra an epeidh vgike cl i omada nomizeis oti prepei na min milame paw paso... ama halame ton ypno se merikous kai tous kovoume ta oneira pou vlepoun as valoune otosapides sta autia tous na min akoune

Katarxhn den eipa oti den mporeis na exeis thn apopsh sou kai na th les, opws oloi mas. Opws epishs den eipa oti esu proteines tipota apo auta pou egrapsa ws paradeigmata. Alla polu apla, den proteines tipota. Kalh h kritikh alla otan proteinetai kai kapoia enallaktikh lush, alliws einai steira. Oso gi'auta pou les, de nomizw oti einai se genikes grammes swsta. Merika nai, alla oxi ola. Les oti ananewnoun polloi 30+ paiktes. Kai; Allaksan oi epoxes, oi podosfairistes de stamatane pleon sta 30 tous. Alla exoume kai pollous neous paiktes pou vghkan siga-siga fetos. O Baggelhs einai neos. O Kontewn kai o Karupidhs epishs. Kai o Koutsopoulos. Kai o Salpiggidhs (sxetika). Den einai ki asxhma. Gia to budget ta exw ksanagrapsei, egw th 8ewrw swsth politikh. Gia ta Spor, entaksei auta einai ta Spor, twra 8a ta ma8oume; Apo thn allh, mhpws protimas na einai oles oi a8lhtikes efhrides opws h kataptusth Alhtikh pou kanei olofanero polemo sunexeia; Gia ta agwnistika de se katalavainw. Eilikrina ti 8a h8eles; Kata 90% lesa phgame kala giati den eixame agxos!!! Kala, auto prepei na einai pagkosmia prwtotupia ws apopshs! An isxuei, tote bravo mas, afou kseperasame alles omades me ligotero agxos opws h Xalkhdona kai to Aigalew. Mhn trela8oume kiolas! Nai, h omada den epaikse sthn arxh polu kalh mpala, alla einai apoluta fusiologiko gia mia omada pou exase 5-6 BASIKOTATA stelexh apo thn 11ada ths. Ki o Pana8hnaikos pou telika phre to prwta8lhma sthn arxh den epaize kala afou eixe ki autos kainouria omada. Oso gia thn ...anuparksia twn allwn, kata auth th logikh kai to prwta8lhma tou 85 to phrame giati o vazelos htan pesmenos, k.o.k. O ka8enas ekmetalleutai sto podosfairo tis adunamies tou allou, logiko kai 8emito einai. Kai h AEK ekmetalleuthke persi tis dikes mas adunamies kai vghke 3h enw emeis eixame 8ewrhtika kaluterh omada. Ti na kanoume dhladh; Prepei na apologh8ei h omada gi'auto; Twra, gia thn pio sovarh kathgoria gia to "8eio" klp., thn akoume xronia auth thn karamela, kai epi Batman kai twra pou efuge o Batman. An ksereis kati parapanw, an exeis apodeikseis pes to, alliws ston aera einai eukolo na milame kai na kanoume upo8eseis. Twra, to an perimenan na fugoun oi prwtoklassatoi kai meta na mpoun sta pragmata, auto nai, einai polu pi8anon, twra to an einai mempto h' logiko, den kserw. Katarxhn uphrxan paiktes opws o Koukelka h' Okkas pou htan apofasismenoi na fugoun etsi ki alliws. O Kafes kalutera pou efuge htan polu akrivos gi'auta pou prosfere. Me to Gewrgiadh den kserw ti paixthke. Pantws to 8ema einai oti autoi pou hr8an DIKAIW8HKAN gia tis epiloges tous. KAI apallaxthkan (h8elhmena h' oxi) apo ta akriva sumvolaia KAI h omada termatise pshlotera apo persi pou eixe ta megala onomata.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: MAKPTOL on May 26, 2004, 13:55:14: φιλαρακι ποσο δικαιο εχεις αλλα ποιος σε ακουει
ολοι εχουν την γνωμη τους και δεν την αλλαζουν με τιποτα
ουτε ακουνε τιποτα ......
δεν πειραζει ας κοιταξουμε μπροστα και αυτοι που διαφωνουν
θα ακολουθησουν .... ;D
ειδατε τον αρουλη και το αεκακι τιποτα δεν μας διδαξε αυτη
η ιστορια ?
πιστευω πως ναι ......
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Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: DiMarko on May 26, 2004, 14:18:07: file tiore 8a h8ela na su kanw 2 erwthsoules

1)protimas proedrous ¨leftades¨(mpatman-seixhs arh) h tous ¨noikokirides¨ pu exume tora?

2)pisteveis oti eprepe prwta na ferei h doihkhsh kales metagrafes kai meta na ananewne tous twrinous?

prosopikh mu gnomh einai o PAOK san epixirhsh pou einai, prepei na sthrizete prwta sto lao tou, sta hshtiria ktlp, para se proedrus kolosous pou sthn telikh kserume ke pu katalhgoun. as mhn imaste fantasiopliktoi, sthn ellada den iparxoun alloi ¨kolosoi¨ tipou kokalh-vardinogianh alwste vlepete gia na parei thn aek o ntemhs xriasthke alous 20 megaloepixirimaties kai oxi enan. h sigekrimenh doihkish pistevw oti stirizete KAI sth tseph tu kosmu, distixws h eftixws, alla toulaxiston etsi kserume oti mas exun anagi kai oti eksartwnte apo mas (alwste aftos den ine o skopos tou podosferou? prosferw 8eama-exw eisprakseis. mia omada pistevw oti einai arketa igihs otan isxiei afto).

oso gia tis metagrafes 8a i8ela na pw oti mu fenetai poli periergo pu krinume thn doihkhsh gia tis metagrafes apo ton Maio!!! ligo noris den ine re pedia? to swstotero pu 8a eprepe na kanei h doihkhsh einai na krathsei tous torinus pextes pou 8elei o aggelos kai ontos afto kanei! diladi ti 8elume, na mas ferun ton tsarta kai na mhn exune lefta meta na kratisune tous torinous? siga siga pistevw, molis teliwsoun tis ananewseis oi torinoi, meta 8a prospa8hsei h doihkhsh na kanei kai tis aparaithtes metagrafes giati h ali8ia ine oti xriazomaste geres metagrafes afto den to antilegw.

ipomonh kai oxi dixonies. filika ta lew mages mhn stravwnete osoi diafoneite
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: bane on May 26, 2004, 15:34:33: administrator τσπ ο γενικος γαμαω εδω μεσα (απο την δουλεια γραφω) και στις 22:00 κλεινει το ιντερνετ
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore on May 26, 2004, 20:22:24: pare tin porta kai fuge eipe kapios, den tha fygw omws akoma...

tha apanthsw stis erwthseis me erwthseis giati den ginete na milame gia sovara pragmata edw pera kai na mou lete an einai kalitera na ehoume leftades i noikokirides kai genika na vazete logia pou den ehw pei ....

rwtaw loipon... stin tabakiera kai sto thema pou ehei simasia , ola ta alla einai deytera kai trita

me ta 6 dis tou aplha tha xrwstouse simera o PAOK?
giati haristikan kai apo poioys haristikan?
giati den kinigane pleon ton batman, giati dothike sihwroharti?
to kiriotero ap ola...giati thaftike to thema apo ola ta mme topika kai mi?....gia 6 dis milame.

edw kanonika teliwnei i kouventa peri dioikhshs kai aggelou kai opioudhpote tin stirizei ....

alla na pame kai se alla... oxi file themi den tha sou pw onomata , den ehw na sou apodeixw tipota o logos mou ehei epihirimata tetoia pou den xreiazete na sou pw onomata gia na trehw egw kai na ikanopoieitheis esy... einai to ligotero afeles auto pou zitas.
Se anoixto forum eimaste den eimaste sta spitia mas.... ama eimastan apo konta na sou pw oti thes afou eisai dispistos kai periergos na matheis onomata .

egw den proteinw tipota , sas lew pws ehoun ta pragmata, ti na proteinw dialdi ,na pw pame na kanoume polemo?
nomizw oti ehei xathei kathe enoia tou dialogou pleon edw mesa... apantate se anousia pragmata vazete logia pou den leme kai gia tin ousia twn pragmatwn den leei kaneis kouventa.

ti na sou apanthsw re themi , psahneis se ena keimeno 3 selidwn na vreis pou leei o allos misi malakia na tin peis... +30 file einai kai 32,33, 34 einai 35 kai ehoume kamposous apo autous.... den tha ta pairneis opws theleis esy ayta pou grafw , eprepe na graspw +33 diladi?
katalaves esy oti opios ehei ligotero anhos paei kalitera? auto eipa egw? eipa oti o PAOK pige kala giati doulepsane irema makria apo to anhos alllwn etwn gia prwth fora stin istoria mas. ti na pw re allo....me ehete koufanei merikoi edw mesa...aporw ti kathomai kai grafw o malakas... e aei sixtiri pia , anathema tin wra pou to ekana post to gamokeimeno
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: 8emhs on May 27, 2004, 08:53:44: Quote from: tiore on May 26, 2004, 20:22:24

rwtaw loipon... stin tabakiera kai sto thema pou ehei simasia , ola ta alla einai deytera kai trita

me ta 6 dis tou aplha tha xrwstouse simera o PAOK?
giati haristikan kai apo poioys haristikan?
giati den kinigane pleon ton batman, giati dothike sihwroharti?
to kiriotero ap ola...giati thaftike to thema apo ola ta mme topika kai mi?....gia 6 dis milame.

ti na sou apanthsw re themi , psahneis se ena keimeno 3 selidwn na vreis pou leei o allos misi malakia na tin peis... +30 file einai kai 32,33, 34 einai 35 kai ehoume kamposous apo autous.... den tha ta pairneis opws theleis esy ayta pou grafw , eprepe na graspw +33 diladi?
katalaves esy oti opios ehei ligotero anhos paei kalitera? auto eipa egw? eipa oti o PAOK pige kala giati doulepsane irema makria apo to anhos alllwn etwn gia prwth fora stin istoria mas. ti na pw re allo....me ehete koufanei merikoi edw mesa...aporw ti kathomai kai grafw o malakas... e aei sixtiri pia , anathema tin wra pou to ekana post to gamokeimeno

Merikes apanthseis sta grhgora. Gia thn tampakera: to oti o Batman efage polla lefta (kai oxi mono apo thleoptika alla kai apo to emporiko kommati tou PAOK) einai sigouro. Mallon sigouro einai epishs oti kai alloi fagane mazi tou. Isws na einai mplegmena kai stelexh ths prwhn kuvernhshs pou ton sthriksan. Gi'auto to logo alla kai epeidh praktika htan duskolo na apagkistrw8ei to kalokairi o PAOK apo auton, egine o,ti egine. Phre dhladh sugxwroxarti, ekanan olh thn papia kai "dexthke" autos na dwsei thn PAE me ena euteles poso. Ennoeitai auto. Malista o Benizelos epaikse ka8oristiko rolo sto na vre8ei h lush kai gi'auto o Goumenos ton euxaristouse sunexeia kai oute phgaine kontra sto nomo Lianh, klp., klp. Auta einai sigoura. Nai, den sumvadizoun me thn eikona mias pragmatika aneksarthths kai timias dioikhshs alla den prepei na zoume kai se enan kosmo twn paramu8iwn. Opoios epixeirhmatias kai na analamvane ton PAOK 8a koitaze na to kanei me to mikrotero dunato kostos. Ennoeitai oti den einai aggeloi. Alla egw pisteuw (mexri apodeiksews tou enantiou) oti exoun kales pro8eseis gia ton PAOK. Mporei na peftw ki eksw.

Gia ta upoloipa, mhn ekneurizesai. To internet to ksereis polu kala oti den einai san thn apeu8eias sunomilia. To mono sto opoio kapoios mporei na apanthsei einai auto to opoio o allos grafei. Den kserw an allo h8eles na peis kai allo egrapses, dustuxws to internet etsi leitourgei. To kserw oti einai ashmanto alla gia na mhn dhmiourgountai la8os entupwseis sou 8umize oti egrpases: "fetos itan i monadiki xronia pou i omada den eihe anhos , den piestike apo ton kosmo kai tautoxrona vgike kai prwth se eisitiria, o kosmos tin stirixe kai itan pio wrimos apo pote.
gia emena ekei ofeilete kata 90% i epitihia, ekei panw pathse o aggelos kai ekane omada ton PAOK" Les oti h epituxia ofeiletai kata 90% sthn elleipsh agxous kai sth sthriksh tou kosmou. Auto sxoliasa, giati fusika to vriskw upervoliko.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: chris on May 27, 2004, 13:13:51: 1)tiore="klirwsh toy prwtathlimatos kai prwth agwnistiki me gavro keklismenwn... olos o kosmos tou PAOK fwnazei ektos apo tin dioikhsh."
chris=e den nomizw na ksexasame HDH thn STHMENH TIMWRIA twn 2 agwnistikwn tu kypelou..thn STHMENH KLHRWSH PRWTA8LHMATOS opou olws tyxaiws o gay hr8e se timwrhmenh tumpa..ton agwna kypelou me larisa opou H MONH OMADA pou edine agwna KYPELOU 3-4 meres prin to PRWTA8LHMA htan o PAOK.(..a nai htan k o panhliakos gia "ksekar8wma".o gay omws h o vazelos DEN eitan)isous KANONES DIEKSAGWGHS DEN EVAGELIZOMASTE OLOI MAS K APAITOUME?nomizw NAI.

E H DIOIKHSH MAS den eprepe na ADIDRASEI?edw gay-vazeloi-xanumoi "fwnazoun oi kleftes gia na fobh8un oi noikokyrides" gia to OTIDHPOTE.kai h DIOIKHSH mas TSIMOUDIA?edw re EIXAN APAGOREPSEI NA EIMASTE EKSW APO TO GHPEDO to ksexasame?

katastaseis perigrafei o @tiore.KRITIKH opou bazeis ta 8etika k ta arnhtika k ta zygizeis.

2)tiore="O aggelos einai katholikis apodohis apo ton kosmo kai stin ousia autos pou stirizei tin omada kai tin dioikhsh."
chris=den einai psema afto k TIMAEI TON AGGELO me thn diapistwsh tu afth o @tiore afou ONTWS o aggelos einai "gia oles tis duleies" k xaras to kouragio tu aggelou.giati omws h DIOIKHSH na karpwnetai sto telos ths periodou KAI to meridio epitixias tu agelou?

3)tiore="Sta agwnistika oti leei o aggelos ginete.. i omada thelei xrono... meta apo 2-3 mines xwris na paizei mpala pairnei apotelesmata. SIga siga paizei kai ligo mpalitsa kerdizei kai ton gavro kai arxizoun ta paramilita gia prwtathlimata ktl."
chris=kai edw exei dikio o @tiore.EPITELOUS enas proponhths PAIRNEI EF8HNES PANW TU,ton AFHNUN na dulepsei k DIKAIWNETAI.den to krybw oti kai egw otan eixa akousei tis dhlwseis tu meta to PAOK-LIN 0-1 oti 'o PAOK EINAI KALYTERH OMADA APO PERYSI" e? eixa xazepsei ligo,alla na pu mas xazepse o aggelos k o PAOK meta an mh ti allo efxarista

4)tiore="fisiologika xefouskwnoume sto telos parola ayta kratame tin triti thesh logw kektimenis tahititas kai aniparxias twn allwn."
chris=isws afto edw egw 8a to ekfraza alliws:na einai kai h kariola h aek dynath fetos k na gustarw perisotero pu espasa thn katara ths 4hs 8eshs k thn PERASA.enw twra h aek "klaigetai" oti k 8avma fetos gia afthn to ti skata katafere..exei k ton bazelo ston hmiteliko na tis klebei thn prokrish ston teliko ..k etsi EMMESA lene polloi oti NAI MEN 3os o PAOK alla kai h aek gia ton POUTSO htane fetos.
ISWS O @TIORE xtypa kampanaki oti o PAOK PREPEI KA8E XRONIA O PAOK NA DYNAMWNEI SE OLA TA EPIPEDA.KA8E XRONIA..KA8E XRONIA.opote an o PAOK einai PANTA DYNATOS K KA8E XRONIA DYNATOS de pa na "gavgizoun" oi alloi kai na prospa8oun na meiwsoun tis epityxies tu?sta @@ mas

5)tiore="fetos itan i monadiki xronia pou i omada den eihe anhos , den piestike apo ton kosmo kai tautoxrona vgike kai prwth se eisitiria, o kosmos tin stirixe kai itan pio wrimos apo pote.
gia emena ekei ofeilete kata 90% i epitihia, ekei panw pathse o aggelos kai ekane omada ton PAOK.
den einai apokistikh epitihia oyte toy aggeloy ,oyte twn paiktwn oyte toy kosmoy. kai poly perisotero tis dioikhshs."
chris=edw egw symfwnw.
den pieze o Laos gia epityxies-poies alh8eia na perimename me tis syn8hkes tu kalokairiou?
ekane to ka8hkon kai ONTWS EINAI P-R-W-T-O-S SE EISHTHRIA! kai an mu poun kapoioi "ma o PAOK exei ghpedo 28.7008esewn enw gay exei 14000-15000 enw bazelos 16.000-17.000 "e?as ta gemizannnnnn afou exoun toosssssaaa ekatomyria opadous.an ta gemizan, AFTOI 8a htan prwtoi.
enas LAOS pou ENIWSE k ligaki thn "logikh tu xaibania einai oi PAOKtshdes,gia na baloume 15euro KATWTERO EISHHTHRIO me ton iwniko emeis oi dioikountes".o LAOS omws edwse thn apanthsh tu.(KATI TETOIA NA 8YMOUNTAI OI DIOIKOUNTES OTAN BGALOUN TA NEA DIARKEIAS)

6)tiore="gia tin anagh tou PAOK na krathsei tous paiktes pou ehei me akoma hamilotera simvolaia, kai na min anoixtei se metagrafes.
xerete eseis kanenan pou na ekane omada xwris lefta? xerete kamia omada pou na thelei na paixei prwtagwnistiko rolo me baget to ena eikosto twn antagwnistwn tis?"
chris=edw egw to ermhnevw oti DYSKOLA o PAOK 8a mporesei na XTYPHSEI PRWTA8LHMA ,giati POLY APLA apo tu xronou PRWTA8LHMA PRE-PEI na xtyphsei afou oi 8eseis 1h k 2h ODHGOUN STO C.L. ,alliws OUEFA K PALI OUEFA .kai dyskola 8a xtyphsei h 8a GINEI AKOMA MEGALYTERH OMADA afou gay k vazelos synexeia enisxiontai.bebaia egw krataw mia epifylaksh oti polles fores "ta rasa den kanun ton papa"...as poume h REAL MADRITHS pou fetos einai skata k aposkata.mallon h alh8eia brisketai kapou sthn mesh

7)tiore="akougete oti ta diarkias tha paizoun 40-50% pio panw kai oti den tha ehei mesa ta mats tou cl...
a tha ehoume kai 15 souites tou xronou, kati akousa gia 1500 euro auto de me noaizei kai poly giati xerw oti den tha to plirwsei o kosmakis, as tis valoune kai 3000 to mats kai makari na tis pairnoune na konomane oi ligourides."
chris=egw edw ksanasymfwnw me thn logikh tu @homopaokus se allo topic:
2paoktshdes * 5euro = 10 euro
alla kai
5paoktshdes * 2 euro =PALI 10 euro

8)tiore="twra auta peri paoktsidwn ktl as ta poune allou, poloi itane kai o voulinos PAOKtshs itane kai malista poly perisotero apo aytous. kai o froutemporas akomi pio poly kai apo to voulino kai apo polous apo emas... den vgainei akri etsi... o kathenas krinete,kaneis den prepei na einai sto apirovlito ,einai akrws epikindino auto."
chris=enoeitai oti o ka8enas krinetai.kai oi KRINOMENOI krinontai,kai aftoi pou prepei na KRI8OUN kai OLOI KAI OLOI MAS.to "ala8hto tu papa" den einai pronomio KANENOS TUS kai KANENOS MAS.

9)tiore="emena den mou aresoun kapoia pragmata kai ta lew, an perisi tetoia epohi tous edwse o theios ta fraga, kai pistepsane me ayta ta lefta tha anasthsoun ton paok , xalafrwnontas tautoxrona tin omada apo ta megala simvolaia auto den einai kai toso kako... kako omws kai megalo malista einai na douleueis ton kosmo meta apo ena xrono paristanontas mera nixta ton swthra me tis plates kai tis avantes pou den eihe pote kanenas pou dioikouse ton PAOK.
kai epeidh den mporw na apodeixw apo edw mesa pws edwse ta fraga o theios napiasoume kai tin alli periptwsh..."
chris=apodeikseis DEN exei o @tiore,opws k kaneis mas nomizw,alla DEN DIKAZEI alla apla ksanafernei sthn mnhmh mas ENDEIKSEIS pu nai...mh mu peite oti den tis eixame skeftei tote throumenwn twn XRONIKWN SYGHRIWN pou eixan symbei.alla einai ENDEIKSEIS...mporei na eitan h na mhn eitan etsi.

sigoura pantws OTAN htan DIOIKOUSA EPITROPH eixan megalo peri8wrio anoxhs apo olous mas,afou den eixan metoxes,den htan IDIOKTHTES,alla aploi DIAXEIRISTES.twra omws POU EXOUN TO PLEIOPSHFIKO PAKETO exoun kai ypoxrewseis,panta sto metro tu dyantou..alla AN DEN mporesoun k aftoi?alloi tote.O PAOK DEN XANETAI.adieksoda stis dhmokraties lene den yparxoun..bebaia se kati xountes boulinou h batman yphrxan egafalika,fytopoihsh tu laou,apogohtefsh tu,k 1002 alla.GI AFTO "FYSA KAI TO GIAOURTI,FYSA TO ,AMA EXEIS KAEI APO TON XYLO"..fysa to bebaia,mhn to pas k ston voreio polo gia na krywsei.me liga logia kritikh me epeixhrhmata
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: chris on May 27, 2004, 13:15:15: 10)tiore="tote einai akoma pio poustiko ayto pou kanane, afou afhsane ton PAOK na dialithei gia na analavoun kameni gh, kai ws gnwston to kameno fwtia xana den pairnei, apo ton pato mono pros ta panw pas pio katw den ehei. xehasa, swsane tin omada apo tin g ethniki re, einai kai auto... bravo tous... kala pou htane ki autoi alliws twra tha paizame me ton fwsthra..."
chris=san DIAXEIRISTES htan polloi kaloi k noikokyrhdes kai afto einai anagnwrisimo.alla TWRA den einai DIAXEIRISTES.einai oi IDIOKTHTES?

11)tiore="Etsi ginomouna kai egw proedros ston PAOK, kai o misos kosmos tou PAOK. Xwris na valoun lefta me to 1/10 twn exodwn pou eihe alles xronies i omada me rithmiseman ta xreh kai me 100% thetikous apologismous gia ta epomena xronia."
chris=mallon o tiore 8a 8ymatai xronies boulinou OPOU K TOTE O PAOK DEN XRWSTOUSE DRAXMH ,alla to butzet tu htan omadas pu 8elei na meinei sthn 'a.(kai oi xronies pu kaname tote..ligo prin fygei o bulinos..htan panagia boh8a)

12)tiore="telika me ayta ta lefta tou alpha pou o batman ypexerese apo ton PAOK ti skata ginete? giati i omada me ayta ta fraga swnotane kai evgaine kai apo panw xwris swthres... alla etsi einai ola ehoun to timima tous"
chris=kai edw mia KATASTASH PERIGRAFEI ,opou malista emena PROSWPIKA me eixe TSATISEI AFANTASTA TO GEGONOS oti TO EIXA DIABASEI GIA TA 5,5DIS DRX STHN EFHMERIDA "APOPSH",a8hnaikh parakalw,tu mhtropoulou KAI POTE DEN EIDA AR8RA STIS EFHMERIDES TIS POLHS MAS(a8lhtikes k politikes) YPOPTOTATO.

13)"bane="για μενα ο ΠΑΟΚ εσκασε τον τελευταιο μηνα . δεν ειχε παγκο .και οσοι κανανε καλη χρονια περυσι φετος ηταν τραυματιες .ητανε θαυμα το φετινο .μην τα ξαναλεμε"
chris=mallon o @tiore-opws to katalabainw egw-einai mesa apo ta grafomena tu na TONISEI afto to 8AVMA ,wste na to synhditopoihsoume kai NA GINEI O PAOK TOSO DYNATOS WSTE NA MHN XREIAZETAI "8AVMATA".bebaia 8a xreiazetai na NIKAME K-A-I TUS DIAITHTES,alla afto einai allou papa evagelio.

14)8emhs="Malista o Benizelos epaikse ka8oristiko rolo sto na vre8ei h lush kai gi'auto o Goumenos ton euxaristouse sunexeia kai oute phgaine kontra sto nomo Lianh, klp., klp. Auta einai sigoura. Nai, den sumvadizoun me thn eikona mias pragmatika aneksarthths kai timias dioikhshs alla den prepei na zoume kai se enan kosmo twn paramu8iwn. Opoios epixeirhmatias kai na analamvane ton PAOK 8a koitaze na to kanei me to mikrotero dunato kostos. Ennoeitai oti den einai aggeloi. Alla egw pisteuw (mexri apodeiksews tou enantiou) oti exoun kales pro8eseis gia ton PAOK. Mporei na peftw ki eksw."
chris=ousiastika o @tiore edeikse oti nai,ageloi den einai,kales pro8eseis?bre makari na apodeixtei TWRA POU EINAI DIOIKOUNTES na apodeiksoun oti exoun.SIGOURA OMWS DEN EINAI ANEGIXTOI ,DEN EINAI ALA8HTOI,KAI PREPEI NA KRITIKARONTAI(oxi mono 8etika alla kai arnhtika)

15)8emehs="To kserw oti einai ashmanto alla gia na mhn dhmiourgountai la8os entupwseis sou 8umize oti egrpases: "fetos itan i monadiki xronia pou i omada den eihe anhos , den piestike apo ton kosmo kai tautoxrona vgike kai prwth se eisitiria, o kosmos tin stirixe kai itan pio wrimos apo pote.
gia emena ekei ofeilete kata 90% i epitihia, ekei panw pathse o aggelos kai ekane omada ton PAOK" Les oti h epituxia ofeiletai kata 90% sthn elleipsh agxous kai sth sthriksh tou kosmou. Auto sxoliasa, giati fusika to vriskw upervoliko."
chris=kapou sthn mesh brisketai h alh8eia.OUTE tu kosmou apokleistika,OUTE tu aggelou apokleistika,OUTE twn paixtwn apokleistika,OUTE ths dioikhshs apokleistika.TO 8EMA EINAI OTI OI DIOIKOUNTES K H GRAMMH TWN MME DEIXNEI OTI H EPITIXIA EINAI PIO POLY ERGO DIOIKHSHS.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: chris on May 27, 2004, 14:36:02: ..isws gia na dwsw kai ena paradeigma pio xeiropiasto 8a "metaxeiristw" afto to site kai afto to forum.
PAOKtshdes den eimaste kai emeis oi 6-pana8ema mas-pu briskomaste "pisw" apo to PAOKWORLD?
e ti diaolo,eimaste ;D

gia skefteite na niw8ame pote h na mas legate h na afhnotan na yparxei h skepsh oti "PAOKTSHDES EINAI TA PAIDIA TU PAOKWORLD.MHN TOLMHSEI KANENAS NA TUS KRITIKAREI H NA TUS STENAXWRESEI OTI KAI NA GRAFOUN,OTI KAI NA KANOUN GIA TON PAOK MESA STO DIADYKTIO"

afto 8a htan akrws EPIKINDYNO! omws.

DOKSAZW ton 8EO(a re pana8ema me,"agelitida" exw pa8ei 8) ) pou PAMPOLLES FORES apo thn arxh leitourgias tu site aftou k tu forum,sas exoume TONISEI oti APAITOUME THN KRITIKH,8eloume na doume ta la8h mas,8eloume na sas afougrastoume,to site den to kaname gia MAS alla gia ESAS ,kai polla alla paromoia pu pistevw oti ta exete diapistwsei oloi me to perasma tu xronou.

katalabainete to "sygritiko" mu paradeigma?
entaksei ta mege8h ka8e allo para sygrisima einai..ama arxisoume na MALAKIZOMASTE san PAOKWORLD :P to poly poly na thn "kanete",na mhn mpainete,na ftiaksete h na breite alla site KATI POU POLY KALA 8A KANETE K PU KAI EGW 8A TO EKANA ASHZHTHTOI.

sthn DIOIKHSH OMWS TU PAOK den exei "bre ainte den asoloumai allo pleon"..."bre ainte pame pali mia apoxh"...PAOK PROEDROS SOU EINAI O LAOS SOU!
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: stef on May 27, 2004, 14:46:36: kalispera PAOKARES olis tis gis.

apantisi gia ta 6 dis.
katarxin borei to arxiko simbolaio na proevlepe 6 dis
(gia na min xehniomaste apo etairia tou batatoudi se alli
etairia tou batatoudi- diladi giannis kerna giannis pinei)
alla an o PAOK kinigouse tin ipo8esi dikastikos 8a
NOMIMOPOIUTAN NA DIEKDIKISEI MONO TO 1.2 DIS
TIS PROTIS XRONIAS.
KAI AUTA OXI EPEIDI "KLAPIKAN" ALLA EPEIDI DEN BIKAN
STON PAOK.
alla eipame den eipame o arxi-apateonas se ayta itan manoula
gia auto alloste dimiourgise 5 etairies giro apo to emboriko
tmima tou PAOK .
gia na min fainetai o idios.

tora stin metabibasi ton metoxon opoios gnorizeo ELAXISTA
APO EMPORIKES SINALLAGES katalabainei oti egine amoibaios
SIMBIBASMOS.
Apo tin mia oi diki mas pou i8elan tin PAE PAOK kai den borousan
me tipota na tin apoktisoun,
kai apo tin alli o arxi-apateonas pou ixere oti o PAOK einai
to pio gero tou xarti (...dioti aploustata kratouse kai tous
politikous sto xeri)
kai ti eixame ..????
epi 5 mines o batapateonas epaize me ta neura mas,
epaize me tin simerinous an8ropous (ipo tin anoxi tou paxisarkou).
omos epeidi oi ekloges plisiazane kai to "paxisarko gourouni"
eblepe oti i dimotikotita tou ef8ine ka8imerinos olo
kai perissotero
ebale kai tous dio na simbibastoune.
apo tin mia o Batapateonas pou stin arxi zitouse gia tin
polisi 2.5 dis ,meta ta meiose sta 1.5 dis kai telika poulise
me 500ek.
kai apo tina alli o Pagonis-Goumenos na min kinigisei dikastikos
ton batatoudi etsi oste na do8ei epitelous ena telos stin
7xroni tirrania.

kai nai euxaristise ton Benizelo , afou omos to zitise os oro
tis simfonias opos analogo oro zitise KAI PIRE KAI APO
Damianidi kai apo Mat8aiou - Skorda.

paidia stin periptosi mas tairiazei ganti "Trogomaste me ta
rouxa mas".
isos epeidi os laos eimaste iper tou deontos sinais8matikos
kai agapame olloi mas pa8olika ton PAOK den boroume
na doume merika pragmata psixraima kai antikeimenika.
nai i simerini dioikisi exei kanei la8oi.
nai einai IPERBOLIKA xamilon tonon(emena prosopika den
me enoxlei kai poli auto).
alla prepei na koitaxoume to aurio.
OPOIOS DEN GOUSTAREI NA MIN STIRIXEI TOUS SIMERINOUS
AN8ROPOUS ... MAGEIA TOU.
EGO 8ELO ENA KAI MONO NA STIRIXO TON PAOK.
AUTO ME NOIAZEI.
apo tin stigmi pou i dioikisi
taktopoiei ta xrei,
organonei kai bazei ton PAOK se epaggelmatika plaisia,
kai den zeimionei logistikos to somateio.
ego eimai ipoxreomenos na paro to diarkeias mou
kai tis baseis pou balame fetos na tis sinexisoume kai
tou xronou etsi oste o PAOK na ginei... ouranoxistis.
apo tin alli den me noiazei poion paixti 8a paroume
(xeroume oti i omada xreiazetai enisxisi - kai eimai sigouros
oti 8a tin exei),
oute me noiazei an o enas einai koutso alogo i oxi...
apo tin stigmi pou o proponitis ton embisteuetai,
automata ton embisteuomai kai ego.
etsi apla.
an kataferoume na doume oti o rolos tou opadou
tou PAOK einai stirixei tin omada kai sta diskola ka sta eukola
eimai sigouros oti kai oi megaliteres epitixies den 8a argisoun
na er8oun.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: gate4 on May 27, 2004, 15:15:26: Quote
apantisi gia ta 6 dis.
katarxin borei to arxiko simbolaio na proevlepe 6 dis
(gia na min xehniomaste apo etairia tou batatoudi se alli
etairia tou batatoudi- diladi giannis kerna giannis pinei)
alla an o PAOK kinigouse tin ipo8esi dikastikos 8a
NOMIMOPOIUTAN NA DIEKDIKISEI MONO TO 1.2 DIS
TIS PROTIS XRONIAS.
KAI AUTA OXI EPEIDI "KLAPIKAN" ALLA EPEIDI DEN BIKAN
STON PAOK.
polu swsti paratirisi. entaksei tin exoume baftisei kataxrisi twn 6 dis alla o PAOK den mporouse na dikedikisei panw apo 4M euro. alla ki auta ta 4 den einai asimanto poso. einai ta diplasia apo osa ebale o goumenos me ton pagwni fetos. einai ousiastika ta lefta gia to athliko kentro kai ta lefta auta xaristikan apo ti nun dioikisi, i kalutera den diekdikithikan kai dwthike afesi amartiwn ston bat.
swsta den einai 6dis alla to polu 4M euro. alla einai liga?
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: stef on May 27, 2004, 15:19:36: oxi file gate-4 den einai liga.
apla skepsou oti einai ta lefta pou zitouse o batatoudis
gia na figei.
kai ta pire me allo tropo.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: gate4 on May 27, 2004, 15:27:25: e nai afou oi idioi anthrwpoi itan apo pisw kai tote kai twra.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: stef on May 27, 2004, 15:43:46: .....??
entaxei pali petas mia laspi kai ka8arisame.
file oso i simerinoi dioikountes energoune opos energoune,
oso i simerini dioikisi taktopoioi ta xrei tis omadas gia
na einai mia sosti anonimi etairia me prooptiki,
oso i simerini dioikisi pratei auta pou epi8imei o proponitis mas,
oso i simerini dioikisi exei exafanismena olla ta lamogia autis
tis polis,
oso i simerinoi dioikisi den ipokiptei se ekbiasmous tou parel8ontos,
toso kai ego den 8a exo kanena dikaioma na min tous stirixo.
pisteuo oti osoi kanoun to anti8eto i parapliroforimenoi einai
i exoun xasei ta kone stous diadromous ton grafeion i
epi8imoun TIN PRAGMATIKI EPANAFORA SE MERES BATATOUDI
OPOU OLLOI KALA PERNOUSAN , KAI O PAOK XALIA.

p.s.:kai kati akomi ... an pigainame tin ipo8esi dikastikos
tou 1.2 dis to poli kamia 400 ek. na pairmname kai auta
an ta pairname. min xehnas oti tin xronia ekeini o
PAOK eixe ipograpsei kai me to Alpha.
kai an bazame tis anaboles kapaki anaboles - efeseis
k.o.k. oute se mia 5 etia den ta vlepema kai auta.
aplos itan ena kalo xarti gia diapragmateuseis ekatero8en.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: petrovgr on May 27, 2004, 20:57:34: Quote from: gate4 on May 27, 2004, 15:27:25
e nai afou oi idioi anthrwpoi itan apo pisw kai tote kai twra.

PWS LEGONTAI?
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: 8emhs on May 27, 2004, 21:50:35: Quote from: gate4 on May 27, 2004, 15:15:26
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apantisi gia ta 6 dis.
katarxin borei to arxiko simbolaio na proevlepe 6 dis
(gia na min xehniomaste apo etairia tou batatoudi se alli
etairia tou batatoudi- diladi giannis kerna giannis pinei)
alla an o PAOK kinigouse tin ipo8esi dikastikos 8a
NOMIMOPOIUTAN NA DIEKDIKISEI MONO TO 1.2 DIS
TIS PROTIS XRONIAS.
KAI AUTA OXI EPEIDI "KLAPIKAN" ALLA EPEIDI DEN BIKAN
STON PAOK.
polu swsti paratirisi. entaksei tin exoume baftisei kataxrisi twn 6 dis alla o PAOK den mporouse na dikedikisei panw apo 4M euro. alla ki auta ta 4 den einai asimanto poso. einai ta diplasia apo osa ebale o goumenos me ton pagwni fetos. einai ousiastika ta lefta gia to athliko kentro kai ta lefta auta xaristikan apo ti nun dioikisi, i kalutera den diekdikithikan kai dwthike afesi amartiwn ston bat.
swsta den einai 6dis alla to polu 4M euro. alla einai liga?

Paidia, gia na valw ligo th suzhthsh se allo plaisio, to provlhma me ta thleoptika ksekina aploustata apo to anuparkto nomiko plaisio sto opoio leitourgei to eurwpaiko podoasfairo. Se opoiadhpote allh SOBARH podosfairikh (kai oxi mono) xwra, einai adunaton na poulhsei omada ta dikaiwmata ths se etairia h opoia meta me ths seira ths ta diapragmeteuetai kai ta poulaei se thleoptika kanalia, otan megalometoxos sthn PAE kai sthn mesazousa etairia einai to idio atomo. Einai apla pragmata. Giati tote poulaw egw ws "PAOK PAE" me 1 dis sthn etairia MOY kai meta poulaw gia 6 dis ton ALPHA. To ekswfreniko einai oti kanenas den antedrase tote me thn anakoinwsh ths sumfwnias (kai den ennow mono tous opadous alla kuriws thn politeia kai ta dikastika organa).
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore on May 28, 2004, 01:54:55: themis.... to na paizeis xwris anhos to thewrw kalo kai oxi kako, to oti wrimase o kosmos epishs kalo , arkei na einai pragmatiki wrimotita kai oxi ypnos...
den einai ypotimitiko na peis oti pigame kala giati paixame apeleutherwmenoi apo to anhos allwn etwn, magia einai kai ayto... egw analysa apo tin diki mou optiki giati o PAOK katafere to kati parapanw fetos apo ayta pou perimename.

oson afora ta 6 dis pou ginane 1 kai meta kanena kai genika gia tis sheseis tis simerinis dioikhsh me theious, batiroudides kai venizelous egw tha sas pw ti mou thimizei oli ayth i istoria

to pasok dia stomatos papandreou fwnaze teli tis deetia tou 70 gia diafthora gia spatali gia klepsies tou laou ktl... yposhotan oti tha tous kinigisei olous otan ginei exousia... den kinigise kanenan fisika... dioti ta idia ekane kai ayto stin deyterh tetraetia...
ta idia ekane o mitsotakis se mikrotero vathmo kai den thimame pali kanenan na pige filaki sta 2.5 xronia pou kivernise...
ta idia kai heirotera kai o hontros pou mas zalise ta arhidia me tin diaploki 6 xronia...eidate eseis kana thema peri diaplokis na sizitiete pouthena? ma ti na sizitithei, edw milame tha tous evaze olous filaki o xontros...hdh arhisane na xtizoune nea pteriga sto koridalo :P

loipon mages, gnwsta einai ayta kai etsi leitourgousan kai tha leitourgoun panta... gia na kathgoreis kai na kinigiseis kapion den arkei mono na eheis agnes protheseis alla na eisai kai timios mexri to kokalo...
otan eisai ta idia skata ( ligo ligotero ligo perisotera den ehei kai simasia ) kathese isiha kai wraia kai to voulwneis afou de se pairnei

twra tha mou peite kai ti na kaname? gia dialisi pigainame...

egw den simfwnw..pisteuw oti o PAOK ehei toso megali dinamiki pou stin simerini elladitsa otan o kosmos tou ginei ena mporei na alaxei kiverniseis. ekei einai i dikh mas euthini omws gia na leme ta pragmata me to onoma tous

oso gia to poso noikokirides einai ayto tha to doume stin poreia akoma den eidame tipota, xwris ton aggelo oyte ena mina den tha antehan... tote tha vlepate tin noikokiria tous...
kai to na eisai noikokiris ehei amesh sxesh me to ti spitiko diaheirizesai, otan eheis ena spiti me noiki 50E anti gia 500 E pou eihe o prohgoumenos enoikiastis kai pistwsh se deh ote ktl eheis kapies avantes den nomizete? kai ...trwei kai ligotero h oikogeneia min xehniomaste...

diladi ti perimenate na parei tin omada o gpoumenos kai na trwei ta lefta pou den ehei o PAOK? ti allo mporouse na ginei re paidia diladi ektos apo ayto pou egine? pros tis olh auth i theopoihsh kai i megenthsh katastasewn?
egw prospathw na ta vlepw 100% antikeimenika ta pragmata den ehw kamia empatheia me kanenan... den mporw omws na min lew pragmata pou gnwrizw kai vlepw kathimerina
allo pragma i hara mas sto gipedo kai allo edw pera , ayta pou leme edw den legontai kai den tha prepei na legontai mesa sto gipedo , oyte se radia kai tv giati tha ginoun lastiho se aytous pou pragmatika theloun na kanoun kako stin omada, kai edw mesa pera apo tis diafwnies pou ehoume den nomizw na yparxei tetoio atomo.

kalo vradi
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore on May 28, 2004, 01:58:28: @chris, thanks gia ti metafrash re ;D

eheis megali ypomonh esy telika re.... ;)
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: gate4 on May 28, 2004, 15:13:26: Quote
entaxei pali petas mia laspi kai ka8arisame.
file stef-den einai laspi, tin istoria tin exw pei kai sto chat, rwta to dikefalo na sto epibebaiwsei, exei akoustei kai sto radiofwno, tha ti matheis kai grapta se ligo diastima.

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file oso i simerinoi dioikountes energoune opos energoune,
oso i simerini dioikisi taktopoiei ta xrei tis omadas gia
na einai mia sosti anonimi etairia me prooptiki,
oso i simerini dioikisi pratei auta pou epi8imei o proponitis mas,
ws edw eimaste sumfwnoi, apoluta. upopsin omws oti ta xrei tis omadas einai 2 eidwn. einai ta xrei pou einai apaitita mesw uefa kai mesw fifa, ta opoia tha ta briskeis sunexws mprosta sou KAI EPEIDI DEN MPORW NA KANW SYNEXWS TO MALAKA GIA TELEYTAIA FORA GRAFW pws einai para polu kales oi kiniseis tous. kai einai kai ta xrei pros to dimosio kai tous allous, gia ta opoia nai men exoune dwsei suggxwroxarti (katanpow plirws to plaisio sumbibasmou pou exeis anaptuksei) apo tin alli omws den ta analambanoun. oso i politeia den ta zitaei kalws. alla einai kati pou kremetai panw apo ton PAOK kai den mporeis na kleiseis ta matia. esu mporeis. egw oxi.

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oso i simerini dioikisi exei exafanismena olla ta lamogia autis
tis polis,
se oti afora tis meteggrafes tous exei adeiasei olous o aggelos kai pros timin tis i dioikisi akolouthise. kai akolouthei. alla den tous exei eksafanisei. diabase ti sunthesi tou periodikou tis pae PAOK. tous exei dwsei olous stegi. einai mesa sta plaisia tis politikis tous. katanoito. apla den sumfwnw. toso apla.
alla se epipedo metaggrafwn tous exei eksafanisei. auto epidiwkame oloi mas. elpizw estw ki apo sponta na diabazeis tin efimerida tou sundesmou mou.
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oso i simerinoi dioikisi den ipokiptei se ekbiasmous tou parel8ontos,
den blepw an ufistatai kanenas ekbiasmos parelthontos. ti ennoeis?
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toso kai ego den 8a exo kanena dikaioma na min tous stirixo.
oute ki egw. kai en blepw pou den tous exw stiriksei. pigaine rwta ton papabramidi gia to poios einai o sundesmos pou poulise to 20% twn diarkeias tin persuni xronia kai plirwse amesa ola ta lefta mexri teleutaio euro tis metritois. se mia polu duskoli oikonomiki sugkuria kai gia tin kathimerini zwi kai gia ton PAOK. kai posoi kai pioi zitousane 10% promitheia sta diarkeias, posoi plirwsane ta diarkeias me epitages kai posoi ta pirane sto 60% tis timis.
aaa, episis pigainei rwta kai ton anastasiadi. einai polu eukolo.
kai an thes pame kai mazi. kanena problima. na se pei an i G4 stirizei i xantakwnei ton PAOK. kalutera pigaine monos. gia na min exeis kai kamia amfibolia oti mporei i parousia mou na epireasei tin katastasi.
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pisteuo oti osoi kanoun to anti8eto i parapliroforimenoi einai
i exoun xasei ta kone stous diadromous ton grafeion i
epi8imoun TIN PRAGMATIKI EPANAFORA SE MERES BATATOUDI
OPOU OLLOI KALA PERNOUSAN , KAI O PAOK XALIA.
tis meres tou bat polloi pernousan kala. egw omws oxi. egw tin plirwsa kai to plirwnw akoma kai me sernoune akoma sta dikastiria, ENW ESENA pou den gnwrizeis kapoia pragmata (kai den to lew me kaki ennoia) KAI MERIKOYS EKSYPNAKIDES TIS PLAKAS KAI MERIKA TAGARAKIA, ekeines oi meres tous prosperasan xwris kanena simadi.
OTAN THA KSYPNISEIS ENA PRWI KAI THA DEIS TO ONOMA SOY NA KSEFTILIZETAI STIS EFIMERIDES EPEIDI TOLMISES NA PAS ANTITHETA STO REYMA KAI NA KRAKSEIS TO BAT OTAN TO 90% APO ESAS TON XEIROKROTOYSATE, TOTE NA SE DW MAGKA.
OTAN THA SE MATHOYN OI ASFALITES ME TO MIKRO SOY ONOMA KAI THA PERNOYN TILEFWNO TON PATERA SOY TOTE NA SE DW.
kai auta giati?
giati den thelisame na parei to gipedo, giati krazame tin auksiseis metoxikou kefalaiou pou kanane ton PAOK fouska, giati grapsame gia tis etaireies pisw apo tis etairies pou itan pisw apo tis etairies, giati krazame autous pou estelne o kokkalis na kanoun agrotiko ston PAOK, giati krazame tous kasimatides kai paei legontas.
mias kai eisai filos tis istorias kai twn arxeiwn, tha frontisw na se ikanopoiisw sto prosexes mellon.
ALLA ALLES TETOIES MALAKIES DEN PROKEITAI NA ANEXTHW. EILIKRINA SE MILAW. mporeis na me rwtiseis kat' idian oti thes. alla prwta rwta kai meta grapse oti thes dimosia.
TELEYTAIA FORA.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: stef on May 29, 2004, 14:38:40: gate-4 se osa grafeis boro aneta na se apantiso- se OLLA.
apla to 8ema me exei kourasei toso ,pou protimo na
min xana asxolio8o , toulaxiston os pros tou parontos.
alloste iparxoun sovarotera pragmata me ta opoia 8elo
na asxoloume kai pou aforoun tin PAOKARA.
esei sinexise sto diko sou bioli .
dikaioma sou.
alloste olloi krinomaste .
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: gate4 on May 31, 2004, 14:13:55: ki egw s' agapaw file stef ;-). elpizw na apantiseis se ola ta themata ena-pros ena opws mono esu ksereis (kai den einai katholou eirwniko auto).
apla epeidi psilokatalabainw oti den me polusikwnei to klima tha perioristw apo edw kai pera mono stin anagnwsi kai tin epikoinwnia mesw IM.
Den prokeitai na sas enoxlisw me to bioli mou, alli fora. kalo mesimeri oti kalutero ston kathenan apo sas ksexwrista kai ta ksanaleme, kapou, kapws, kapote.

Punk rockers, hip-hoppers
Brit poppers, show stoppers
Beboppers, hair droppers
Are you ready to sing?

Right wing, left wing
I want something
To see me through (???)
Bout what do you think

We ain't gonna be treated like trash
We got one thing
We are the Clash
What?
We are the Clash
It's like a patch
You can strike that match

With my guitar now
(???) last dance
I see them where they (???)
How they usually stay

Beating on a drum
Did they tell them 'take it in'
Got the (???)
Where the fat boy blew

We ain't gonna be treated like trash
We got one thing
We are the Clash
That's right
We are the Clash
It's like a patch
You can strike that match

Home fires burnin'
In motorcycle city
The rockin' gods will choose
If I'm worthy to live
The first (???) engine
(???) forty-six
And there's no more (???)
To imitate respect

We ain't gonna be treated like trash
We got one thing
We are the Clash
Don't take no shit
We are the Clash
Do ya hear me?
It's like a patch
You can strike that match

THAT'S ALL FOLKS

SEMPRE FORZA MAGICO PAOK!!!
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: stef on May 31, 2004, 15:04:19: tin kaliteri apantisi edoses.
as vgaloume gousta me tin OMADARA mas.
alloste toso tin grinia oso kai tin mizeria tin bare8ikame.

apo tin pleura mou afierono to
"Were a happy family"
apo ramones,
se ollous tis PAOKARES tis gis.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: wivenhoe on June 01, 2004, 04:36:00: Tha ithela na ekfrasw tin apolyti ikanopoiisi moy gia to epipedo pou kratate kai na sas parotrynw na synehisete na "plakwneste" paoktsidika opws se afto kai se alla topics.
Gia mas poy diavazoyme to forum kai exoyme tis idies apories kai agwnies me sas, einai hrisimo na mathainoyme afta poy den grafontai i sxoliazontai me afton ton tropo apo fyllades, radia kai alla mesa (para)pliroforisis.

Kai mia kai vlepw oti merikoi anikoyn se mia meiopsifia pou eftyhws de leei na pethanei edw kai dekaeties:

White youth, black youth
Better find another solution
Why not phone up Robin Hood
And ask him for some wealth distribution

Punk rockers in the UK
They won't notice anyway
They're all too busy fighting
For a good place under the lighting

The new groups are not concerned
With what there is to be learned
They got Burton suits, ha you think it's funny
Turning rebellion into money

(one possible version, while several others apply)
Some new fans are not concerned
With what there is to be learned
They got Juventus shirts, ha you think it's funny
Turning rebellion into money

"White man in Hammersmith Palais"

PAOK GERA
Nasaste kala
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: Suicidal on June 01, 2004, 10:10:08: :hb:
MHPOS TELIKA PREPEI NA KSANAZWNTANEPSEI TO PARAKATW *Music* TOPIC ? :P

http://www.paokworld.com/paokworldboard/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=136
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: DarkLord on June 03, 2004, 13:58:57: o goumenos epistrefei stin proedria, afou athoothike, episis o vieri girise stin Juve (asxeto :P)
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: stef on June 03, 2004, 14:57:40: kala wivenhoe... apo ta agapimena mou tragoudia
einai to "white man..."
imnos !!
telika ti ginetai ..??.. mipos prepei na ftiaxoume kai kana
fun-club ton CLASH..?? ;D

p.s.: oi metallades pou kribonai..??
etsi kai allios apoteloun tin pleiopsifeia...i mipos oxi..?? ;D
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: petrovgr on June 03, 2004, 15:10:29: Mexri twra osoi askousan steira antipoliteysi stin dioikisi mas elegan pws den mporoume na empisteytoume anthrwpous pou exoun katadikastei gia oikonomika egklimata.Twra pou kai ayto apotelei parelthon elpizw na teleiwsoun oi dixonoies kai na tous afisoume na kanoun to ergo pou lene oti mporoun
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore on June 03, 2004, 20:19:37: STEIRA ANTIPOLITEUSH?

se pious anaferese? se ayta pou grafoume edw mesa? stin alitiki ..se pious...den mporei na grafoume arades kai si na petas mia kouventa etsi re file...oxi kai etsi...

me to paramikro haraktirizete atoma pou den ta xerete ... kai tis protheseis toys...

opios den ehei apopsi kai ti na pei, petaei mia malakia typou "eiste mizeroi" kai nomizei oti katharise

mizeroi einai autoi pou theloun tin exigiansi ... (kai milame kiriws gia ithiki exigiansi kai oxi oikonomikh ...na xeroume kai ti leme) tou PAOK?

kai oi ypoloipoi ti einai ...???

mipws vlepoun kai pisteuoun ayta pou tous simferei kai theloun na pisteuoyn? oi pio poloi otan milame gia kati pou den mas simferei (sxeseis me theio, katadikes goumenou ktl ..alazoun kouventa... alla logia na agapiomaste diladi) kai den ginete mono edw mesa , geniko einai to kako ...
ehete tin entypwsh oti se emas einai euxaristo na asholoumaste me ola ayta?

emeis @petrov den prospathoume na stamathsoume kanenan apo to na kanei ti douleia tou, kai se teliki sto gipedo pame, stirizoume ton PAOK kai oxi tis dioikiseis toy ..kai ayto akrivws einai pou den goustarw na ekmetaleyontai...
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: kostas4 on June 03, 2004, 20:29:45: Quote
emeis @petrov den prospathoume na stamathsoume kanenan apo to na kanei ti douleia tou, kai se teliki sto gipedo pame, stirizoume ton PAOK kai oxi tis dioikiseis toy ..kai ayto akrivws einai pou den goustarw na ekmetaleyontai...

etsi einai.kaneis den einai teleios kai polla pragmata stin dioikisi vrwmane.kaneis den leei na tous diwxoume alla prepei na tous elegxoume kai ligo.opoia dioikisi kai na einai emeis tha pame sto gipedo.alla kati 15eura gia tin 4 me tin dikaiologia tou cl...diladi tou xronou sto cl an perasoume me to kalo ti times tha xtypane.emena den me noiazei na dwsw kai 5 eurw parapano alla kapoia pragmata opws tin ekmetaleusi den ta goustarw.

stirizoume tin omada kai oxi tin dioikisi.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: petrovgr on June 03, 2004, 21:35:52: tiore to pithanotero einai na min katalaves ayto pou ithela na pw

1) Den milisa proswpika

2)An pisteyeis oti ekanes epikodomhtikh kritiki stin politiki tis P.A.E. P.A.O.K. de vriskw to logo na pareksigitheis

3)Anaferthika se osous ti stigmi pou i omada eixe xilia dyo provlimata, epikentrwnontan sto poso lamogio einai o Goumenos kai posa dis kompines exei o Pagwnis

4)Nomizw eisai ligo pisw stin eidhseografia, simera o Goumenos athwwthike sto efeteio tis Kozanis kai mporei na vrisketai se opoio posto thelei stin dioikisi tis P.A.E.

5)Pisteyw pws prepei na stamatisei epitelous ayti i nootropia tou oti emeis eimaste o laos pou synexeia oloi ton ekmetalleyontai kai oloi patane sto ptwma tou gia proswpiko symferon.Apagoreyetai na rthei kapoios pou na vgalei lefta kai parallila na wfelhsei ton P.A.O.K.?

6)Den pairnw oute to meros tis dioikisis, oute tin yperaspizomai, oute gia logariasmo tis milaw.Apla exw dei ergo enos xronou.Diaxeirisi apli pes to? nai apli diaxeirisi.ALla vreite mou tin teleytaia dekaetia allon pou na ekane diaxeirisi kai na pige tin omada mprosta.Mipws o Batman? Pou stin epoxi twn tileoptikwn kai twn paxeiwn ageladwn ta evaze stin tsepi kai moiraze stin omada psixoula??? Mipws o Voulinos? Diaxeirisi itan to mono pou mporouse na ginei , ektos an ypirxe o epixeirimatias pou tha evaze ta dis tou gia na kanei ton P.A.O.K. megali eyrwpaiki omada.Alla den nomizw na ton vrikame olokliro kalokairi.

7)To mono epixeirhma pou akousa gia to oti den tha eprepe na empisteytoume tin P.A.E. sta xeria aytwn twn dyo itane to dedikasmeno.Kai lew egw: Gnwrizete kanenan paragonta podosfairou pou na min exei mpleksimata me dikastiria? Re paidia, o Kokkalis exei apodeixtei dikastika oti ypirkse kataskopos to kserete? Pige ton gay-ro psila? Ton ekane eyrwsto swmateio oikonomika? O Abramovich pou vrike ta lefta kai ekane tin chelsea yperomada? Epsakse kaneis sto londino to pothen esxes tou? ? ? Giati tha evriske polla ''roz'' kai ''aspra'' xartia...

8)Kritiki prepei na dexetai i dioikisi, giati ayto einai to ygies kai to swsto.Alla kritiki gonimi kai kaloproaireti.Exoume provlima me tin timi twn eisitiriwn? Syntonistiki epitropi twn syndesmwn kai aithma ston Goumeno kai ton Pagwni: ''Ta eisitiria einai akriva''
Alla oxi: Yparxei stin Ellada i alli odos: Krazw , krazw ,krazw epi dikaiwn kai adikwn kai epeidh ''fovountai'' , ikanopoioun ta aitimata mou

9)Pernaei texnientws pws to megalytero provlima tou P.A.O.K. ayti ti stigmi einai h dioikhsh!

10)Otan dw kati pou me stravwsei ston tropo pou xeirizontai ta themata tis agapimenis mou omadas, prwtos egw kai o kathenas PAOKtsis fysika tha pw ayto pou me enoxlise.

An kai meta apo aytes tis episimanseis tiore pisteyeis oti eksakoloutheis na thigesai, den exw provlima na to syzitisoume se politismeno epipedo.Apla otan pigaineis sto gipedo kai plirwneis to 20eyro, anapofeykta , theleis den theleis stirizeis oxi mono ton P.A.O.K. , alla kai tin ekastote dioikisi.Me ta lefta sou kai ta dika mou re file pigainoun tin etairia mprosta pws na to kanoume.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore on June 04, 2004, 01:58:10: oyte egw milaw prosopika , aformi pairnw na pw kapoia pragmata.

epetrepse mou na sholiasw dio prgamatakia pou aneferes...

4)Nomizw eisai ligo pisw stin eidhseografia, simera o Goumenos athwwthike sto efeteio tis Kozanis kai mporei na vrisketai se opoio posto thelei stin dioikisi tis P.A.E.

twra edw file mou ti na sholiasw .... diladi esy pisteueis stin elliniki dikaiosini ktl? kai to ematha den eimai pisw, kata tyhi alla to matha ;)
den lew oyte oti einai enohos oyte oti einai athoos gia kati, prosopika den ehw kamia empistosini se dikastikes apofaseis, thats all, edw ehoune athoothei apatewnes kai apatewnes se ayth ti xwra

5)Pisteyw pws prepei na stamatisei epitelous ayti i nootropia tou oti emeis eimaste o laos pou synexeia oloi ton ekmetalleyontai kai oloi patane sto ptwma tou gia proswpiko symferon.Apagoreyetai na rthei kapoios pou na vgalei lefta kai parallila na wfelhsei ton P.A.O.K.?

den nomizw oti ehoume ayth ti nootropia mono, ehoume kai poles alles mazi, ehoume kai fyta kai exipnakides kai ampelosofous ..kai ap ola ehoume,opws ehei i kathe omada me tetoia maza apo pisw tis.

oxi apla den apagoreuete alla makari na erhei enas pragmatikos bisnesman mia mera ston PAOK.Mono tote tha doume aspri mera...
otan tha erthei aytos o antrwpos tote na eisai sigouros oti o prwtos pou tha to pei tha einai o idios... (twra an tha zoume emeis mexri na to doume ayto den xerw, mallon oxi)
tah sou pei egw irtha na ependisw ston PAOK , sas vlepw san pelates kai tha kanei ta panta na ikanopoihsei tin pelatia tou...
pantrema paoktsi me epihirimatia xehna to...
kai kaneis sovaros epihirimatias den prokeite na epndisei sto kakomiro elliniko podosfairo, den yparxei tetoios malakas stin poythena ston kosmo...opios mpainei sto podosfiaro mpainei gia alous logous ...

an den kanw to lathos autoi paoktsides einai opws legane... mono gia na dwsoun irthan ston PAOK...etsi legane perisi ..min ta xehnas

kai den ehoune to dikaioma alwste oi xipolitoi na kanoun prwsopiki epihirish ton PAOK... me ti re si me ta 2 milionia pou kerdisane sto lotto perisito kalokairi theloun na ginoun twra epihirimaties? ap pou kai ws pou ? oi mono exipnoi aytoi einai diladi?

@petrov to oti mas pire o goumenos kai twra den ehoume alli lisi kai voleuomaste einai i alitheia... yparxoun provlimata pou den vgainoyn stin epifania giati ta kaliptei o aggelos kai oi filades..kai otan milaw gia ton aggelo den yponow kati ypopto enow apla oti ta kaliptei me tin parousia tou kai ton tropo pou proponei - dioikei - managarei tin omada... giati ola aytos ta kanei

kai oso gia tin omada pou xtizoume egw tha rwthsw kati kai as apanthsei opios thelei edw mesa...
auth i omada pou extise perisi o aggelos kai tha sinehizei na xtizei kai fetos...an gia kapion logo stamathsei apo ton PAOK o aggelos, aurio as poume ... ti mellon tha ehei? kalitero apo tin exisou neaniki omada toy skwlika? giati kaliterous paiktes den ehei.... apanthste...

nai mou aresei kai goustarw pou ehoume ton aggelo alla meta apo ayton ti ginete?
den einai kalo na stirizete i omada apoklistika se enan anthrwpo oso megales dinatotites kai an ehei, einai lathos... milame gia ton PAOK kai oxi tin prodeutiki
prepei na dinamwsoume pantou, dioikitika, paraskiniaka, se yliko, se egatastaseis, sto marketing ...pantou ....
egw olon auton to xrono parolo ton kataigismo twn mme oti giname noikokirides den ta ehw dei ayta...
nai kapies kiniseis eida , kanane dio kales kiniseis marketing, milane gia egatastaseis an kai den mou leei tipota ayto an den dw prwta praxeis... sta logia ola eukola einai

Oli auth i fasaria kai to glipsimo stin dioikish einai ypervoliko kai ypopto...nai ginane pente pragmata ston PAOK apo perisi kala... ta 4.5 anhkoyn ston aggelo stous paiktes kai ton kosmo kai to miso stin dioikish!
pios o logos na ehei tin anagh o pagwnhs kai o goumenos na tous kanoyn temenades oi filades? den eipame na kanoyn oti i kolofilada i alhtiki alla oxi kai na tous paristanoun san swthres..prokaloun ...kai thimizoun se merikous prgamata pou theloyne oi ypoloipoi na xehasoun ...pws vrethikan na dioikoyn ton PAOK, pios kai pws toys evale.

low profile einai mono stin politiki tis omadas se themata epo , epae ktl... ekei diladi pou den prepei na einai ...omws ta ferefwna toys oi dimosiografiskoi den einai kathlou low otan anaferontao se autous... auto prokalei kapioys kai oso prokaloun tha ta akoyne...kai fisika apo tous kakentreheis tha akoyne kai sikofanties..tha megenthinoun akoma perisotera kapoia gegonota, distihws gia ton PAOK...
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore on June 04, 2004, 02:15:36: den thigomai re petrov, apla etsi einai o tropos pou milaw... :)

eimai tromera epifilaktikos me tin simerini dioikhsh, gnwmh mou einai oti den mporun na prosferoun ston PAOK ayto pou theloume gia na ginei o PAOK pragmatikos prwtagwnistis ... kai nomizw me ayta pou ehw dei kai ehw zhsei kai egw kai oloi mas sto parelthon ehw kathe dikaioma na tin vlepw etsi ti douleia.

ti eihame ti hasame.... apo ta skata pame sta liogotero skata... mizeria einai na mi thes katholou skata i na hairese pou glitwses ta pola skata, tin megali vrwma?

otan mou parousiazoune loipon oti ola einai kala kai egw vrwmokopaw akomh mou ti dinei , pws na to kanoyme... >:(
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: HOMOPAOKUS on June 04, 2004, 03:36:24: File tiore na se rothso kati?
An soy elegan na zygiseis ta thetika kai ta arnhtika ths dioikhshs GP mexri tora, kata th gnomh soy poy 8a egerne h zygaria?
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: chris on June 04, 2004, 09:58:03: egw -gia na ginetai kai koubenta dhladh- 8a pare8eta parakatw tis apopseis tu sf ampalaea,opws ekfrasthkan aftes to prohgoumeno sabbato.osoi tis akousate pros8este oti 8elete,8a ta grapsw ligo periliptika

*kleisame thleoptikh symfwnia me to filnet gia 3-4 xronia kai 9 ekatomyria euro
*ara api8ano na mhn exoume ston hlio moira apo dw kei ystera
*8a bgaloume fraga,kapou 2 me 3 ekatomyria apo thn pwlhsh twn souiton sthn nea g1,2,3 opws aftes ginontai
ksakiname dhladh me ena sebasta kalo oikonomiko background

an DEN-ta paidia eipan sthn ekpomph tus AN DEN ginoun sebastes metagrafikes kinhseis k apokthsh kalwn metagrafwn TOTE PWS O PAOK 8a ksekinhsei me ABANTAZ gia na perasei stous omilous?
(to AN DEN to aneferan giati fysika DEN KSEREI KANEIS MAS meeexriii na teleiwsoun oi metagrafes AN 8a paroume kai POIOUS paixtes..sigoura kaneis mas mesa sto myalo ths dioikhshs einai,oute mantes eimaste,alla kai "mhdena pro tou telous makarize")
(eipan kai kati akoma ,oti na mhn perimenoume AN perasoume k meta ti kanoume.na mhn perimenoume me poia omada 8a pesoume k meta AN PERASOUME PERASAME....EMEIS 8a "kynhghsoume thn tyxh mas"..ti dhladh gia MOIROLATRIES eimaste?)
akoma eipan oti KAI NA MHN PERASOUME STOUS OMILOUS C.L. ,amesws meta paizoume stous OMILOUS TU KYPELOU OUEFA pou apo fetos ksekinane-etsi eipan,den mporesa na to diastavrwsw.1paixnidi loipon prokrimatikwn c.l. + 3 paixnidia omilou ouefa.h KANOULA XRHMATWN dhladh 8a reeei.ENOEITAI oxi oso ths "bryshs tu c.l." alla kai "ths ouefa h brysoula" 8a trexei.
akoma,akoma gia THN XRONIA ellhnikou prwta8lhmatos 2004-2005.ainte fetos 3h 8esh,pou htan mia xara,thn KARAAKSIZAME,to xarhkame oloi.gia thn xronia pou erxetai omws?mpoume den mpoume stous omilous c.l. STO ELLHNIKO PRWTA8LHMA kseroume oti MONO o 1os kai o 2os bgainoun c.l.?bre enoeitai to kseroume.synhditopoiume oti 8a ginetai ths poutanas tu xronou me diaithsies apo vazelo k gay gia na mhn xasoun ta kekthmena kai tis 8eseis tu c.l. + oti 8a enisxy8oun akoma perissotero?
pou gia mena..bre as palepsoume tou xronou gia prwta8lhma kai as katalhksoume 3oi.DEN ME XALAEI arkei na dw-AMHN ;D-oti tu xronou palevoume mexri telous,xtypame prwta8lhma alla KATALHGOUME 3oi(oti dhladh telos h katara ths 4hs 8eshs kai oti PLEON eimaste ena skalopati parapanw ORISTIKA)

kai den pairnoume to PRWTA8LHMA tu xronou?
to exoume palepsei omws alla ksanapairnume to KYPELLO
KAI APO THN XRONIA 2005-2006 EPITELOUS PAIRNOUME TO DOUBLE! :hb:

ainte,eriksa tis apopseis tu sf ampalaea-oso tis 8ymomoun-kai se douleia na briskomaste
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: Matador on June 04, 2004, 15:30:27: Etsi akrivws ta eipan ta paidia apo ton Ampalaea Chris. Swsta
ta akouses kai ta katalaves. Etyxe na akousw thn ekpomph tous ta prwta 40΄ kai eipan akrivws osa anafereis gia Ch. League, UEFA, xrhmata kai metagrafes.

To 8ema stis metagrafes einai na mhn diararax8oun kai poly oi isorropies. An oi metagrafes aytes proexontai apo ton elladiko xwro kai exoun to diplasio-triplasio symbolaio apo ayto px tou Salpi, nomizw pws 8a "klwtshsei/oun". An twra proerxontai apo ton eyrwpaiko xwro, xreiazetai megalh eyeliksia kai pei8w gia na mhn ginei "mpourdelo" h omada. Nomizw oti aytoi oi paiktes prepei na kanoun thn diafora kai na peis8oun oi twrinoi
oti dipla se aytous 8a ginoun kalyteroi kai 8a paroun kai ta ypshla prim pou grafei to symbolaio tous.
Gnwmh mou einai oti 8a ginoun 2 metagrafes aksias kai ousias.

Symfonw APOLYTA me ta ypoloipa legomena sou oti prepei na kontraroume ta dyo lima ths Athinas mexri to telos kai as bgoume tritoi me isoba8mia kai diafora termatwn, pou 8a mas dwsei thn sigouria kai thn psyxologia tou oti MPOROUME. Giati me ta dedomena 17 kai 15 va8mwn diafora, kaka ta psemata, meiwnontai kai ta oneira mas kai leme oti apexoume akomh poly.

Problepw kai egw na ginontai "orgia" apo thn diaithsia tou xronou, ektos kai o Orfanos efarmosei (an ton afhsoun kai den ton fane mesa se mia nyxta opws kanane me ton kilkisiwth) to sxedio tou, ligo xlwmo to blepw, alla pote mhn peis pote akomh kai sthn Ellada. Kapote re pousth mou prepei na ginei h arxh.

AINTE PAOKARA.......................................... TRELANE MAS, PARE MAS KAI ALLO TA MYALA, KANE MAS "KOURELI", EMEIS 8A PROSPA8OUME NA EIMASTE DIPLA SOU.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: Tolis1977 on June 04, 2004, 16:38:25: Τόσο καιρό σε αυτό το site διαβάζω διάφορα σχόλια σχετικά με τη νέα διοίκηση και όλες οι απόψεις είναι σεβαστές γιατί όλοι είμαστε ΠΑΟΚτσήδες και θέλουμε το καλύτερο για την ομάδα μας.
Πιστεύω όμως πως αυτό που πρέπει να κάνουμε είναι να μην κατακρίνουμε με το παραμικρό την διοίκηση γιατί όπως και να το κάνουμε ρε αδέρφια, όσο ΠΑΟΚτσήδες και να είναι διοικούντες, δεν υπήρχε περίπτωση να διαθέσουν χρήματα με μόνο σκοπό τη διάσωση της ομάδας και κατά συνέπεια τη ζημία τους.
Ακόμη κι αν κάποιος από εμάς κέρδιζε κάποια στιγμή τρελλά λεφτά στο ΤΖΟΚΕΡ ή στο ΛΟΤΤΟ δεν θα δεχόταν να αναλάβει τις τύχες της ομάδας χωρίς κάποιο όφελος.Σε αυτή τη φάση είναι λογικό να λειτουργούμε με το συναίσθημα και το καταλαβαίνω απόλυτα γιατί ένας από εσάς είμαι κι εγώ.
Είναι σωστό να σχολιάζουμε τις κινήσεις της διοίκησης αλλά είναι λίγο λάθος να τις κατακρίνουμε με το παραμικρό όπως π.χ. με τις μεταγραφές.Δεν ξέρω τι έχει στο μυαλό της η διοίκηση αλλά ότι κι αν γίνει είναι σίγουρο ότι εμείς πάλι στην Τούμπα θα είμαστε του χρόνου γιατί ο ΠΑΟΚ δεν είναι μόνο Ποδοσφαιρική Ανώνυμη Εταιρεία αλλά για εμάς είναι ΙΔΕΑ και κανένας Γούμενος και κανένας Παγώνης μπορούν να το αλλάξουν αυτό.ΕΜΕΙΣ πιστεύουμε στην ομάδα!Δεν πιστεύουμε ούτε σε διοικούντες, ούτε σε παράγοντες, ούτε σε προπονητές, ούτε σε παίκτες!Όλοι έρχονται και παρέρχονται...
...ΜΑ Ο ΠΑΟΚ ΜΕΝΕΙ ΓΙΑ ΠΑΝΤΑ ΣΤΗΝ ΚΑΡΔΙΑ ΜΑΣ
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore on June 04, 2004, 21:38:03: Quote from: HOMOPAOKUS on June 04, 2004, 03:36:24
File tiore na se rothso kati?
An soy elegan na zygiseis ta thetika kai ta arnhtika ths dioikhshs GP mexri tora, kata th gnomh soy poy 8a egerne h zygaria?

to thema einai ti tha valoume panw sti zigaria file homo
tha ta valoume ola i mono ta agwnistika pou ektos twn allwn einai epitihia allwn kai oxi tis dioikishs.

egw den vlepw na alaxe kati ston PAOK se exwagwnistikous tomeis.
To mono kalo pou vlepw einai se 2-3 themata marketing pou ta xeirizontai swsta, ayto prepei na to poume kai einai poly simantiko... apo kai pera oi protheseis tous einai toso skoteines kai angwstes oso einai kai o tropos poy anelavan ton PAOK... an den xekatharisoun ayta den mporoyme na poume tipota. Giati ayta ta kai distihws ola ayta o kosmos tha ta dei ek twn ysterwn , ek toy apotelesmatos... opws egine kai se alles periptwseis...

den nomizw oti oi omades xtizontai se ena atomo opws i dikh mas, oyte stis yposheseis twn politikwn poy simera einai aurio den einai, kai fisika tipota den ginete xwris na ependiseis prwta lefta kai malista pola. Otan teliwsoun ta psemata tha arhisoun ta diskola... meta oloi xafnika tha thimithoun ta provlimata kai tha kanoun kritiki ek twn ysterwn, kai oi filades pou glifoune tha ftynoune, kai meta pali tha glifoyne tin xeroun tin douleia kala ...
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: DarkLord on June 04, 2004, 23:45:20: exo kourastei na grafo tis apopseis mou epi tou thematos. Alla re si Tiore fainetai oti exeis mia entelos snob diathesi pros tin doiikisi pou pragmatika ksereis ti mou thimizei? Demek diadiloseis kata tou imperialismou ton HPA k tou kapitalisoume tis EOK (kapos etsi den paei i kaseta?) Ennoo oti auta pou les mou fainontai apla san i siniexisi mia stadar ideologias, pao kontra ston anotero mou giati eimai demek magas k exo faei ta xronia mou stin 4a (k ego ekei pao...) klp klp. Tespa, to agonistiko pou les, i prosfora tis dioikisis einai poli simantiki k oxi asimanti opos les giati plirone stin ora tis.
Tespa gia telos ena exo na po, simfono apolita me ton petrovgr
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore on June 05, 2004, 12:24:58: egw na deis poso ehw kourastei na grafw ta idia kai ta idia...
oti eiha na pw to eipa , kai to tekmiriwsa se vathmo pou ehw katanthsei kourastikos kai grafikos...ki ayto oxi giati ehw gavles kai den ehw ti na kanw sti zwh mou alla giati merikoys tous pairnei poly gia na katalavoun kapoia pragmata, kai meta vevaia alla logia na agapiomaste... @darklord eisai ektos pragmatikotitas se ayta pou les, ektithese, mi milas gia kosmo pou den xereis etsi...

..varethika, eilikrina , kathiste grapste gia tis metagrafes pou tha kanoume, vriste ton olimpiako vriste to skouliki , vriste ton okka ton georgiadi ton kafe kai opion feuvgei apo ton PAOK, oi paiktes ftaine , o goumenos den eihe idea perisi to kalokairi, eipame vrike ta lefta sto lotto ... einai ena athwo paoktsaki pou thelei na voithisei tin omada...kai ainte oneira glika ...o orimsos tis mizerias eiste eseis kai kaneis allos. Aytoi pou to mesimeri pane sto gipedo pinontas dio retsines kai kinigane to leoforio na apothewsoune tous paiktes kai meta apo 4 wres tous vrizoune giati dwsane to mats sto vazelo... e, egw den eimai etsi ... kai den epitrepw se kanenan pou den me xerei na me haraktirizei anwnyma. kai afou sinehizetai ayth i istoria edw mesa o monos tropos na stamathsei einai na thn kanw egw.tespa...geia kai na ste kala stin ygeia sas
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore on June 05, 2004, 12:42:05: thelw na euxaristw ta paidia tou forum gia tin filoxenia .... to site einai super, kai to forum einai kalo apla niwthw oti oti eiha na dwsw to edwsa, sinehiste dinata ;)
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: wivenhoe on June 06, 2004, 23:04:02: Lypamai gia tin energeia toy parapanw filoy "tiore" na apoxwrisei. De nomizw na eimai o monos poy diavase me endiaferon tis apopseis toy kai tin epixeirhmatologia toy kathws kai twn allwn melwn poy eixan antithetes apopseis.
I aksia aftoy toy forum einai nomizw na ekthetei o kathenas tis anisyxies toy oso "airetikes" ki an fainontai aftes se kapoious. Me afton ton tropo paei o laos toy PAOK mprosta.

Sto topic omws afto perimena na diavasw kapoia kritiki tis hronias poy perase. Ti kaname diladi agwnistika kai opadika.

Afto poy ksehwrise itan oti i omada kerdise para polla paihnidia ektos, pou paliotera me tis "kalyeteres 11ades" eihame synithisei na fevgoyme me isopalies kai ittes. Itan i diafora sti filosophia poy perase o Aggelos. Kaname kai tis gnwstes geles entos poy an den ypirhan to telos toy prwtathlimatos isws itan diaforetiko.
Sta thetika, i niki sto gavro etsi gia na spane kati eknevristikes paradoseis poy eteinan na pagiwthoyn.
I niki me tin AEK stin Toympa epeise gia ti fetini poreia tis omadas poy ksekinise "mikri" kai andrwthike kata ti diarkeia tis hronias.
Eihame episis apodoseis apo merikoys paiktes ypothiki gia tin epomeni hronia i pio makroprothesma:
Gia mena aftoi itan Salpiggidis, Koutsis, Vaggelis, Karypidis, Koutsopoulos, Giasemi. Proswpika pistevw oti o Giasemi adikeitai poly apo ton kosmo. O Spasic fanike episis sto telos.

Opadika ti na pw, eimaste foveroi na min epektathw se evlogies kai painemata. Sygharitiria mono sta liga paidia poy pigan Lewforo meta ti Debrecen kai tragoydoysan "gnwsto synthima" syneheia.

Ehw mono mia aporia gia kati poy egw eida arnhtiko. Mporei na moy eksigisei kapoios ti eksipiretoyse mia terastia ellhniki shmaia poy fanike stin TV sto mats stin Ksanthi?
(ennoeitai oti an tin evlepa se kathe mats i an paizame ektos Elladas den tha aporoysa katholoy)

PAOK GERA PRWTATHLIMA KSANA
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: pavlosk on June 08, 2004, 11:41:25: Ma einai dunaton me to paramikro na stamatame na grafoume sto forum ?

Aderfe tiore den ginesai grafikos apla exeis tis skepseis sou kai autes grafeis kai poly kala kaneis.

Eimai kai egw enas apo tous distaktikous me tous goumeno pagwnh ksereis oti opoios kaigetai apo to gala fusa kai to giaourti.....
To mono pou me ksenizei se auth thn dioikhsh (alhtheia akoma tou prwtodikeiou einai h exei ginei tatktikh dioikhsh, mias kai katexoun pleon to 66%+ twn metoxwn?) mexri twra, einai h aukshsh me sxedon gewmetrikh proodo tou posou pou exoun valei ston PAOK.

Ase loipon tis diagrafes kata meros kai sunexise, opws kata thn gnwmh mou, prepei na sunexisei kai o gate4 o opoios pleon koitaei alla den grafei.

Kai as mhn ksexname PANW AP OLA PAOK panw apo kathe anastasiash goumeno pagwnh kai paiktes!!!!

pavlosk
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: character on June 08, 2004, 19:53:39: καλητερα που σταματαει γιατι με αυτα που γραφει θα διωξει πολυ κοσμο απτο forum οποτε καλα κανει...ακου εκει να κανει πολεμο στον Γουμενο,λες και τον ξερει απο χθες..μηπως φιλε τιορε εχεις προσωπικα προηγουμενα με τον Γουμενο?τι χολη ειναι αυτη ρεεεεεε??ημαρτον....... :12: :12: :12:
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: bane on June 08, 2004, 20:06:15: character δεν πρεπει να σταματαει κανεις να εφραζει αποψεις.ουτε ο τιορε ουτε κανεις . ολες οι αποψεις πρεπει να ειναι σεβαστες και να υπαρχει διαλογος .αλλο πολεμος .δεν λεω αν εχει δικιο η΄αδικο αλλα με κανει να σκεφτομαι . το ιδιο και συ και ολοι. ειναι καλο να μοιραζονται ιδεες .ουτε ο γουμενος ειναι πιο πολυ ΠΑΟΚΤΣΗΣ απο σενα η΄απο μενα η΄απο τον τιορε
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: Suicidal on June 09, 2004, 07:34:07: Quote from: bane on June 08, 2004, 20:06:15
character δεν πρεπει να σταματαει κανεις να εφραζει αποψεις.ουτε ο τιορε ουτε κανεις . ολες οι αποψεις πρεπει να ειναι σεβαστες και να υπαρχει διαλογος .αλλο πολεμος .δεν λεω αν εχει δικιο η΄αδικο αλλα με κανει να σκεφτομαι . το ιδιο και συ και ολοι. ειναι καλο να μοιραζονται ιδεες .ουτε ο γουμενος ειναι πιο πολυ ΠΑΟΚΤΣΗΣ απο σενα η΄απο μενα η΄απο τον τιορε

TA EIPES OLA ! :05a:

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@character: mhn pairneis kai orko oti 8a ediwxne poly kosmo....
xwris na nomizeis oti 8elw na s'epite8w , exoun ginei alla ki alla edw mesa, eisai sxetika kainourios sto board kai exeis xasei merika merika....
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Paraklhsh, na mhnei to topic sto 8ema tou pleon ki as afhsoume ton tiore me thn apofash tou. Ki egw elpizw na ksanakanei register giati h fwnh tou PAOK xreiazete o-l-e-s tis opseis....

Eyxaristw.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: EnasToumpalimpanNY on June 09, 2004, 23:32:45: Quote
akoma eipan oti KAI NA MHN PERASOUME STOUS OMILOUS C.L. ,amesws meta paizoume stous OMILOUS TU KYPELOU OUEFA pou apo fetos ksekinane-etsi eipan,den mporesa na to diastavrwsw.1paixnidi loipon prokrimatikwn c.l. + 3 paixnidia omilou ouefa.h KANOULA XRHMATWN dhladh 8a reeei.ENOEITAI oxi oso ths "bryshs tu c.l." alla kai "ths ouefa h brysoula" 8a trexei.

Mia parenthisi na kanw, Sto kypello uefa toy xronoy oi 16 omades poy tha apokleistoyn ston 3o prokrimatiko mazi me tis 64 poy exoyn perasei UEFA (syn.80) tha paiksoyne prokrimatikoys gia toys omiloys(16 kai 30 Sept.)..... Apo kei kai pera oi 40 poy tha persoune tha mpoyn se 8 group ton 5 omadwn diladi 4 mats (2 entos/2 ektos) opoy h edres tha apofasistoyn me klirwsi...... Ta mats tha ginoyn stis 21 Oct., 4 Nov., 25 Nov., kai 15 Dec..... Oi prwtes 3 omades tha perasoyn stoys "32" kai meta paei legontas....
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: PITBULL on July 20, 2004, 04:30:18: To mono pou 8elo na sxoliaso gia thn nea epoxh tou PAOK me goumeno sthn proedria einai oti epitelous h omada arxizei na xexreonei tis malakies tou mpatmalaka. Gia proth fora meta apo polla xronia den blepo to onoma ths omadas mas anamesa se autes pou xrostane polla. to parakato ar8ro einai apo to contra.gr

Τον κίνδυνο να βάλουν... λουκέτο θα αντιμετωπίσουν πολλές ΠΑΕ αν μέχρι τις 30 Ιουνίου 2005 δεν έχουν ρυθμίσει τα χρέη τους! Σύμφωνα με τους υπολογισμούς του Υπουργείου Ανάπτυξης, υψηλά χρέη παρουσιάζει η ΑΕΚ με 67,4 εκατ. ευρώ, ο Ολυμπιακός με 22 εκατ. ευρώ, ο Αρης με 7,9 εκατ. ευρώ, ο ΠΑΣ Γιάννενα με 6,1 εκατ. ευρώ, η Παναχαϊκή με 2,5 εκατ. ευρώ και ο Απόλλων Αθηνών με 1,8 εκατ. ευρώ.

den eimaste sta prota onomata auton pou xrostane adelfia. epitelous. arxizei na xexreonei h omada. fenetai epitelous oti kai dioikhtika h omada exei pleon prosopo. Den leo oti o goumenos einai o epixeirhmatias me ta trella lefta kai pisteuo oti o PAOK axizei na exei proedro kapoion me poly poio xontro paketo. Auto pou leo omos einai oti epitelous mphke mia taxh sthn omada oso anafora to oikonomiko.

auto gia mena metraei poly ;)
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: giwrgos4 on July 20, 2004, 12:09:03: dil xrostae pio liga k apo ton apollon kalamarias??
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: apaoki13 on July 20, 2004, 16:08:59: Egw ayth thn istoria den thn exw katalabei. Prwta ap' ola lene oti sta posa den exei ypologistei h a3ia twn podosfairistwn. Epipleon milane gia ton isologismo kai oxi gia ta ousiastika xreh. Den dieykrinizoun ti ginetai me ta xreh pros to dhmosio kai pros tritous. Elpizw emeis pragmati na eimaste ektos ths listas. Aplws 8ymamai oti persi gia emas elegan oti eixame 18 ekatommyria xreh an den kanw la8h. Mhn mou phte oti ta 3exrewse ola o goumenos!!! An einai etsi tote as kaname metagrafes opws o gavros kai na afhname ta xreh na stoibazontai. ;D Plaka kanw. An kataferan na mas 3exrewsoun se tetoio ba8mo tote tous bgazw to kapelo.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: PAOK-GALATSI on July 20, 2004, 17:23:14: 7.4 ek.€ xrwstame re paidia!!!PARA POLLA LEFTA DHLADH!!!vevaia to kalo einai oti ontws yphrxe meiwsh!!
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: apaoki13 on July 20, 2004, 19:04:08: @ paok-galatsi

Pou to eides; 8elw na diavasw to ar8ro.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: PAOK-GALATSI on July 21, 2004, 01:03:48: apo to goal news(triths) einai.eixame tosa xreh pou einai adynaton na xehrewthoun se ena xrono.....
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: kostas4 on July 21, 2004, 02:37:08: tosa xrwstame,to egrapsa kai sto topic gia ta xanoumia.ontws einai PARA POLLA ta lefta gia ta dedomena tou PAOK kai apopsi mou einai oti den prepei pote na sygkrinomaste me ton xeirotero mas alla me ton kalytero.pantws 7,4 ekat. nomizw oti mporoume na ta xexrewsoume mesa stin epomeni 3etia mono kai pali vgainei peripou 2,4 ekat to xrono.polla lefta...
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: DoctorBalendar on July 21, 2004, 18:16:52: Auta einai stoixeia 30/06/2003. Me tis auksomeiwseis kai ta loipa logistika kolpa prepei na exoun meinei kati psila xrei apo tis xriseis...
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: rosen_eye on July 21, 2004, 20:25:39: Ola ta xreostoumena einai me stoixeia mexri to 2003. Gi auto kai o gayros gia paradeigma simera den xrostaei me kati auksomeiwseis tou metoxikou kefalaiou. Etsi kai emeis den xrostame tosa polla.

Pleon xrwstaem poly ligotera kai mallon ana fetos perasoume stous omilous tha erthoume sta isia.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore2 on August 12, 2004, 16:47:38: mages edw eimaste pali, edw pou eimastan mia zwh san paoktsides, o malakas o tiore egine tiore2 twra...
oxi re den mpika na tin pw se aytous pou me krazane giati elega tin alitheia oyte na kanw ton xipnio, alwste to tiore den einai kan to real pseudonimo mou ...

loipon.... katarhin hairetw polla filarakia apo edw mesa kai eidika ton kosta apo ti g4 ;)

olo auto to diastima ekane polys kosmos ypomoni...kosmos pou gnwrize pios einai o goumenos alla den milouse gia na mi halasei ta oneira pou eihe i pleiopsifia twn paoktsidwn.

twra omws ola tha vgoune sti fora, den nomizw oti kratiountai pleon aytoi pou gnwrizoun ti ginete mesa ston paok.

epishs thelw na pw oti ESEIS pou sistinate psihraimia toso kairo kai ypomoni ehete to megalytero meridio eythinis gia oti egine.
ESEIS eiste pou voulwsate to stoma se olous aytous pou gnwrizane prgamata kai den milousane.

paramones tou agwna me makabi ta elega me proedro sindesmou sti thessaloniki.
ta paidia gnwrizane ta panta edw kai mines, den milousane omws giati den tous eperne opws legane...nai ...den tous eperne giati o kosmos efage gia alli mia fora paramithi, pistepse ton grigoriadi kai to vasilopoulo kai oxi ta idia tou ta matia kai ayto pou estw kai thola evlepe...

Eseis loipon twra na analavete tis eythines opws prepei na kanoume oloi mas, kai fisika euthines ehoune kai oi sindesmoi kai osoi gnwrizane kai fovithikanna milisoun otan eprepe, otan itan nwris akoma...twra einai arga pleon...ISWS malista na megenthithoun kapoia gegonota kai na parei i mpala kai kapoioys anthrwpous pou prosferane pragmatika...

egw xerw mages oti otan xereis kati to les.... OSO KAI TO SKEPASEIS TO SKATO THA VRIMISEI AN DEN TO THAPSEIS... kai ayta ta pragmata den thavontai, i poli einai mikri
egw gia to goumeno gnwriza oti einai megalo lamogio, den exei idea apo epihiriseis kai marketing ousias... douleuei me tous palious nomous tis agoras, "pistolia"-glipsimata-apeiles-simfwnies katw apo ta trapezia ktl

gia ayto kai den perimena tipota kalo apo ayton ton antrwpo afou pleon to podosfairo einai se alli fash, prepei mia omada na leitourgei san mia pragmataika megali etaireia me tous katalilous epistimones stis kataliles theseis... twra na o dionisis thewrite o kaliteros se oli ti poli na analamvanei ena toso simantiko posto ti na pw.... tzampa vgazoun ta matia tous sta panepistimia tis amerikis kai tis agglias tosa paidia...

alla aporw re paidia me merikous , akoma kai twra merikoi milame gia pistwsi xronoy...e imarton pia...
i anakoinwsi twn ditikwn sinikiwn poly kali ektos aytwn pou leei gia louka...ekei nomizw oti ta paidia mperdeutikan...stis eppagelmatikes pae douleia tou paikti einai na paizei kai oxi na thimate... adika ayta pou lene gia to paidi...einai ayto pou leme twra tous pairnei olous i mpala

telos epeidh edw mesa poloi prokalesate , pate na diavasete ton apologismo tis xronias ek neoy....twra tha katalavete perisotera na eiste sigouroi....

min tolmisei kanenas na pei oti vgika kai milaw twra pou gamithike i douleia ... akoma kai etsi na einai na kanei toumpeki opws kaname emeis toumpeki toso kairo kai anehomastan oles tis malakies peri ypomonis ktl apo ta fyta
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: ksts on August 16, 2004, 02:20:27: Kai na kai i epivevaiwsi:
http://www.contra.gr/ethniki/storydetail.asp?kat=1&ArticleID=46694 (http://www.contra.gr/ethniki/storydetail.asp?kat=1&ArticleID=46694)

Ws fito kai egw pou sinistousa ipomoni
lew na arxisw na (xana)marainomai...

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Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: jmjyiannis on August 16, 2004, 03:55:01: an kai to contra to empisteuomai.....
den to pisteuo kati tetoio. oti akougetai apo kapoion, pane ta sites ka ito bgazoune gia eidisi. an epibebaiaothei tote entaksi... na marathoume ola ta fta alla mexri tis apodikseos tou...ego os sosto fito, akomi anaptisomai.

ante re paokara. kane kai kanena filiko me pio megali omada giati apo beroia pame se drama.... na paiksoume kai me tin anagennisi artas tote.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: petrovgr on August 20, 2004, 05:02:35: ΔΕΚΑ ΕΡΩΤΗΜΑΤΑ

Που πολύ θα ήθελε ο παοκτσής να μπορούσε να απαντήσει η διοίκηση της ομάδας του

1. Πέρσι η ομάδα τερμάτισε στην τρίτη θέση και ο προπονητής δήλωσε πως στόχος είναι να πηγαίνει κάθε χρόνο ψηλότερα. Φέτος μπορεί να μιλήσει κανείς για τους στόχους της ομάδας; Υπάρχει κανείς που μπορεί να πει πως θα παλέψει για να μπει στους δύο πρώτους;

2. Η διοίκηση δηλώνει μεταβατική και διαχειριστική. Ωστόσο αυτός είναι ο δεύτερος χρόνος της χωρίς να έχει ακουστεί ούτε μια φορά ενδιαφέρον από κάποιο παράγοντα. Πότε σκοπεύουν να τη δώσουν;

3. Οι Γούμενος- Παγώνης έκαναν λόγο για συμμετοχή του κόσμου και Εταιρία Λαικής Βάσης. Τι έγινε με αυτήν την περίπτωση;

4. Ποιός είναι ο Γενικός Αρχηγός του Π.Α.Ο.Κ. και ποιός ο Διευθυντής Ποδοσφαιρικού τμήματος;

5. Ποιός ευθύνεται για τη μη πραγματοποίηση μεταγραφών το καλοκαίρι;

6. Είναι ο Διονύσης Γιαννόπουλος ο μοναδικός υπεύθυνος του φιάσκο με την Μακάμπι;

7. Πότε θα είναι έτοιμο το γήπεδο της Τούμπας με το σκέπαστρο του;

8. Ποιό είναι το χρονοδιάγραμμα της εξόφλησης των χρεών του Π.Α.Ο.Κ.; Με λίγα λόγια, πότε θα τελειώσει η εξυγίανση για να αρχίσει η επένδυση;

9. Πόσα χρόνια θα χρειαστούν για να πάρει ο Π.Α.Ο.Κ. το πρωτάθλημα Ελλάδος και να πρωταγωνιστήσει στην Ευρώπη παίζοντας στο Τσάμπιονς Λιγκ;

10. Ποιά είναι τα χρέη της διοίκησης προς τους παίκτες;
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore2 on August 26, 2004, 17:36:26: authn tin wra ehei apeytheias tin klirwsi toy cl

kathiste na deite kai klapste.
... vgikane ta paidakia me tis faneles twn omadwn, tha vlepame ton pitsirika me ti fanela tin rige tin timimeni dipla se ayta tis real, tis arsenal tis barca ktl...

telika mas meinane ta diarkeias gia na vlepoyme to skarmoutso to karadimo ton amafoule kai ton foutsini na paizoyn me ergoteli kai ioniko... kai goux moux ta palikaria kai dwstou me miso miden nikh kai dwstou o aggelos euxaristw ta paidia poy paizoyn mona tous kai ainte mizeria ole.

e re pikra...
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: gate4 on August 26, 2004, 18:07:14: BAYERN, YUVE, AJAX, PAOK
non male!
an kai ithela
REAL, ASROMA, LEVERKUSEN, PAOK

wps sorry
emeis eimaste aurio.
den peirazei omws, to Mai tha eimaste kala. Fetos i prwtomagia einai kai Kuriaki tou Pasxa!
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: gate4 on August 26, 2004, 18:08:34: H prwtaprilia mporei na me pei kaneis ti mera peftei?

ps;dikeFALE? eimai o prwtos pou xrisimopoiei to neo look tou forum? an nai na kerdisw kati. ola ta sobara magazia kati dinoun.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: gate4 on August 26, 2004, 18:13:05: me ti bayern tha kaname mia kerkida me 25000 kai tha ftiaxname kai alles 100000 PAOKtisdes stin Kentriki Eurwpi. ta diafugonta kerdi sto Sullogo poios tha ta plirwsei, o seksugeiantis i o trelos?
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: Passenger-4 on August 26, 2004, 18:36:23: Mallon emeis tha ta plirwnoume file gate4 me eisitiriakia twn 15 gia tin 4, se agwnes me tin kerkyra ktl.... >:(
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore2 on August 26, 2004, 19:14:40: parola ayta o PAOKtsis wrimase epitelous kai dinei xrono ... den kanei ta lathi tou parelthontos...

mporei na piklrathikame ligaki alla deite to kai apo tin alli min kanete san ligourides gia ta sentonia...

Simera xekinisan oi ergasies gia to neo ypersixrono athlitiko kentro toy PAOK. I paokara tha ehei tin diki tis paiania pleon.

Ta xreh mas xoflithikan meta to noikokirema kai oloi tha plirwnontai stin wra tous.

Exoyme omada me m.o ilikias 22.3 etwn, to mellon mas anoikei.

ta epomena sentonia opws katalavainete einai dika mas, o xronos kila yper mas.

RE AI GAMITHITE EPITELOUS, exigiantes tis dioikhshs kai exeurwpaistes paoktsides opadoi me felo anti gia myalo.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: tiore2 on August 26, 2004, 19:17:31: aman re ... xehasa to gipedo

meta tis ergasies sta kathismata tis 1 kai tin prosthiki souitwn to gipedo tha mas paei alla 30 xronia...
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: Tolis1977 on August 26, 2004, 20:26:50: Και η πίκρα συνεχίστηκε.........

Έβλεπα τον πιστσιρικά με την φανέλα της Γιούβε και τα μάτια μου έπαιζαν ΠΑΟΚτσήδικες φανέλες!Τι πίκρα είναι αυτή ρε παιδιά!

Βιαστήκαμε να τεντώσουμε το σεντονάκι...τώρα ας χαλαρώσουμε λιγάκι κι ας δούμε τι κλήρωση μας περιμένει αύριο στα λημέρια μας...στο UEFA!
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: monte on August 26, 2004, 21:41:14: Mόλις άκουσα κι εγώ ότι η Μaccabi είναι με τη Bayern σκέφτηκα την κερκίδα που θα κάναμε στο Μόναχο... Θα γινόταν πραγματικά χαμός.Κρίμα... Τώρα υπάρχει αβεβαιότητα για τη φετινή χρονία ρε γαμώτο.Θα γίνουν τα πράγματα έτσι όπως τα λέει ο Άγγελος ή πάλι UEFA φετός ;
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: gate4 on August 26, 2004, 21:48:19: mono etsi opws ta leei o aggelos? kai akoma kalutera! ena klik mas leipei gia to prwtathlima.
ena klik, ena madame figaro, ena esquire, mia vogue, ena national geographic (lathos exoume amafule) kai paei legontas.

Μέσα σε αυτό το βαρύ κλίμα, ήρθε και μια είδηση που χαροποίησε το ποδοσφαιρικό τμήμα. Πρόκειται για την κλήση του Δημήτρη Σαλπιγγίδη στην εθνική ανδρών ενόψει των δύο αγώνων για τα προκριματικά του μουντιάλ του 2006. Ετσι μετά την ολυμπιακή ομάδα, ο νεαρός επιθετικός θα φορέσει τη φανέλα και της πρωταθλήτριας Ευρώπης!
www.supersport.gr

xestikame (apo ti xara mas) ki i barka gernei.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: ksts on August 27, 2004, 01:51:17: Afto pou me ponaei einai oti i klirwsi afti itane ena apo ta oneira tou kathe
PAOKtsi.
Monaxo me 20000 kosmo
To Torino na vafetai aspromavro(i pliopsifia twn Torinezwn einai
opadoi tis torino kai oxi tis Juve)kai to sinthima pou na skepazei
ton italiko ourano na einai:Juve puttana-puttana italiana!

Ps:kai Ollandia na pigainoume sto trito mats xwris kosmo logw adiaforias
afou tha exoume idi prokrithei ston epomeno giro.

Alla mexri tote...

(POU EINAI TO MPARMPALAKI POU KOIMATAI RE PAIDIA?)
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: jmjyiannis on August 27, 2004, 02:02:51: Quote from: ksts on August 27, 2004, 01:51:17

Monaxo me 20000 kosmo
To Torino na vafetai aspromavro(i pliopsifia twn Torinezwn einai
opadoi tis torino kai oxi tis Juve)kai to sinthima pou na skepazei
ton italiko ourano na einai:Juve puttana-puttana italiana!

Ps:kai Ollandia na pigainoume sto trito mats xwris kosmo logw adiaforias
afou tha exoume idi prokrithei ston epomeno giro.

O autosarkasmos sou me stenaxorese kiallo. Os pote re paidia? Os pote tha zoume me ta oneira ???
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: Δικέφαλος on August 27, 2004, 02:34:49: Quote from: ksts on August 27, 2004, 01:51:17
(POU EINAI TO MPARMPALAKI POU KOIMATAI RE PAIDIA?)

:13: mparmpalaki is back
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: Londrezos on August 27, 2004, 21:10:55: Paides nomizw oti an o PAOK mas prokrinotan den 8a klhrwnotan me Juve,Ajax kai Bayern Muenchen.O logos poly aplos.Oi omades mpainoun sthn klhrwtida kai analoga me thn xwra poy proerxontai.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: hotdog on August 27, 2004, 21:11:25: kserete poso kosmo tha ixame se auta ta mats????

ego pisteuo:

me bayern ----> 25.000 (h germani sinithos stous omilous den pigenoun gipedo; isos na pername kai ta dika tous tickets kai na imastan perisoteri)

me ajax ------> 10.000 (düsseldorf, kolonia, bochum, dortmund ktlp iparxi elliniko stixio pou ftanis tous 40-50.000 kosmo
apo tous opious 70 % ine paokara ) xoris na balo ta kommandos apo ellada kai ths ipolipes gitonikes xores)

me juve --------->15.000 (osa isitiria dikaioumastan, auto to gipedo tha to gemizan ta kamikazi apo ellada kai mono, tetio mats pios
tha exane apo kato, ekdomoula me ta ola ths, bus to igoumenitsa --> ship to ancona --> bus to turino )

KAI GIA NA MIN KSEXNIOMASTE MILAME GIA TA "EKTOS" EDRAS MATS

MAS GAMISAN OLA TA ONIRA POU KANAME GAMO THN TRELLA MOU: ETSI OPOS IRTHAN TA PRAGMATA THA ITHELA NA MIN IXAME KATAKTISI POTE AUTHN THN GAMIMENI 3 THESI STO GAMIMENO PROTATHLIMA MAS

OLA TA ONIRA FTERA SE 14 MERES OOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAA TA ONIRA
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: HOMOPAOKUS on August 28, 2004, 00:09:53: Ante na mazepsoyme ta kommatia mas...Ayta poy moy erxontai sto myalo me bash thn klhrosh einai:
a)ELPIZO na kanoyme kapoio/a sobaro/a filiika mexri tote :aktion031:
b)ELPIZO oi malakes ekei na exoyne balei kana sosto atomo me ey8ynh sta fax :mad:
c)ELPIZO oi malakes ekei na piesoyn Orfano - 8emeliodomh kai opoion allon exei sxesh na einai etoimh h Toympa (siga mhn einai alla leme tora) :21:
d)ELPIZO na paroyn kana sobaro metro gia ton ka8e malaka poy 8elei na kanei bolta sto xortari ths Toympas :police:
e)ELPIZO oi paixtes na katalaban ti egine kai na paiksoyn epiteloys mpalla :05a:
f)ELPIZO o proponhths na ksypnhsei :13:
g)ELPIZO na "klasei o pe8amenos" :saint:
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: DarkLord on August 29, 2004, 03:25:12: dld re mages na sas rotiso giati exo arxisei na amfisvito to paoksidiliki mou me autin tin tragodia me tin makampi (pote den fantazomoun oti tha to elega auto) , toso poli sas noiazei i poreia mas sto uefa? ego prosopika, toulaxiston tora, adiaforo pliros...
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: KARATZOVITIS on August 29, 2004, 10:59:56: Re si Panagioti mou fenetai ta xereis ola, kai kalitera apo emas.Kai epidi den goustaro na akouo malakies (vasi kanonismou kai 5%)
tha sas po poso kosmo eichame to 1983 sto Monacho. Pano apo 15000 :headbang: :headbang:
Tha sas to po giati eimoun sto Gipedo ,ginotan tis popis les kai pezame stin edra mas.

Vevaia esis i gay apo pou na pernate eisitiria. Mipos echetai kana syndesmo edo. :lol: :lol:

Tora vevaia einai arga alla san ÐÁÏÊôóÞäåò echoume ipomoni kalitera tou chronou pou tha echei Teleiosi kai to Alianz Arena (to kainourgio Ypergipedo tou Monachou)

Chairetismata apo to Aspromavro Monacho

ALLAKSTE POLLI ASPROMAVRI EINAI OLLI
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: PAOK-1965 on August 29, 2004, 11:07:12: Mhn amfibalhs gia to PAOKtshdilikh sou DarkLord. Koubenta na ginetai. Emeis ekei PAOK mexri to telos akoma kai sto erasitexniko. Poios gamaei to UEFA kai to CL h to epagelmatiko prwta8lhma ths xabouzas gia 2 + 1. Kala einai den lew alla as mhn 3exname ti pragmatika antiproswpeuei autos o sullogos.

GAMW THN TRELA MAS... KAI KALA NA EIMASTAN PALI PAOK 8A EIMASTAN kapws etsi den paei.
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: Tolis1977 on August 30, 2004, 11:03:42: @@DarkLoard

Δεν έχεις χάσει το ΠΑΟΚτσηδιλίκι σου γιατί έτσι είμαστε όλοι!Απλά, μας έχει καταβάλει η πίκρα!Πρέπει να μαζέψουμε τα κομμάτια μας γιατί το πρωτάθλημα δεν έχει ξεκινήσει ακόμη και είναι αμαρτία να πέφτουμε ψυχολογικά από τώρα!Άλλωστε, ο χρόνος είναι ο καλύτερος γιατρός λένε!
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: giwrgos4 on August 30, 2004, 14:02:01: isos alla k ena tragoudaki leei ' o xronos ine o xiroteros giatros se keei se skorpaei k se pagoni ' apo tripes
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: Tolis1977 on August 31, 2004, 21:01:55: Quote from: giwrgos4 on August 30, 2004, 14:02:01
isos alla k ena tragoudaki leei ' o xronos ine o xiroteros giatros se keei se skorpaei k se pagoni ' apo tripes

Μην μας μαυρίζεις κι άλλο την ψυχή ρε Γιώργο!Άσε να πάρουμε λίγο τα πάνω μας!
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: giwrgos4 on September 01, 2004, 13:19:43: etsi topa...sigura o xronos 8a voi8isi kai 8a doume ti 8a gini...ela paokara :04a: :05a: :04a: :05a:
Title: Απ: 2004MAIOS(& sternh mu gnwsh na se eixa prwta) nea epohi kai apologismos tis xronias
Post by: chris on October 02, 2004, 16:46:24: nomizw(kata thn TAPEINH PROSWPIKH MU apopsh) to TOPIC THS XRONIAS 2003-2004!..to diabazw,to ksanadiabazw para polles fores kai PARA POLY PROSEKTIKA.

APO TON MAIO TOY 2004 XTYPOYSAN KAPOIOI "SYNAGERMO".

nomizw oti ta gegonota pou epakolou8hsan DIKAIWSAN DYSTYXWS TON @TIORE 1-2-3

..me thn elpida oti "den 8a zoume allo me to parel8on alla 8a ma8ainume kai 8a didaskomaste apo afto"..