Σχολια απο τον Αυγουστο 2004 για τo χαμενο fax(Λάιος, Γιανόπουλος, Γούμενος, Ψαρά κτλπ)

[Passenger-4]

Goustarw trela pou eimai PAOK..mono emeis tha mporousame na trwgame tetoia pikra...Eimaste treloi re.....Kai opws kaname tetoia trela na xasoume me 0-3, etsi tha nikisoume kai mesa ekei..Ainte PAOKARA

H dioikisi as parei ton poulo epitelous

Tetoia lathi den sigxwrountai

[HOMOPAOKUS]

Exo saltarei kai go opos oloi sas. To myalo moy exei mia megalh 8oloyra. Prospa8o na mhn ta xoso kata dikaion kai adikon. Oxi oloys kai ola sto idio tsoybali magges. Kai go 8elo na bgalo xolh. Den 8a to kano omos. Prota na kse8oloso...
Pantos -toylaxiston aythn thn ora- 8a sas koyfano kai go legontas pos pisteyo sto... 0-4.

[tiore2]

simera pou ta vlepw pio irema ta pragmata ehw na pw...

nai hathike megali eukairia, omws ayth hathike edw kai kairo kai oxi xtes, apla den eimastan etoimoi ap oloys toys tomeis. kai min xehname oti PAOK eimaste , tipota den einai apithano estw kai etsi kapoies mikres pithanotites yparxoyn sto israel,  den kanw plaka to pisteuw.

gia oloys aytous pou den pistepsane to paramithiasma aggelou-dioikisis kai mme tipota den alaxe, o paok xekina mia xronia opws oles tis alles, paizei uefa kai tha pame gia oti kalitero mporoume se prwtathlima kai kipelo... trelenontai aytoi poy pistepsane to paramithi, an i toumpa adeiasei apo aytous tha adeiasei aytous pou ypostirizane ta pseutika oneira tous... oi ypoloipoi tin xeroun tin douleia, me xionia kai vroxes pali ekei tha eimaste ..ti 12000 ti 6000 ...

den nomizw oti tha mas paei telika kai toso pisw ayth i istoria, kai ayto giati den pisteuw oti kaname kapoia vimata proodou olo ayto to diasthma, ta idia skata eimastan isws kai xeirotera se kapoioys tomeis, se katastash ypnwshs vriskomastan.
twra pleon an antimetwpisoume epitelous realistika tis katastaseis mporoume na pame mprosta. Ta matia mas anoixta kai epifilaktikoi se oti akoume kai skeftomaste, akoma kai apo ton idio mas ton euato...autos einai o prwtos pou mas paramithiazei

[tiore2]

gia goumeno ktl epishs den alazei kati, i gnwmi mou einai i idia me ayth pou itan prin ena xrono.
apogoiteytika omws apo ton aggelo gia ton opoio eiha enstaseis mono gia ton tropo pou leitourgouse-antiepaggelmatika.
twra pleon ehw arxisei na amfivalw kai gia tis protheseis tou.
otan meta ap olo ayto to fiasko ekane tin terastia malakia na kalesei to louka sto grafeio tou...les kai tha alaze kati... les kai o louka itan ypathinos gia oti egine.
to mono pou katafere me ayth ti kinish itan na dwsei enausma se kapoious na vrizoun to paikth, na apovalei tis euthines apo panw tou kai apo ti dioikish...kai genika na apoprosanatolisei to kosmo apo tin pragmatiki aitia tou kakou...
edw distihws vgainw profitis(anathema me) se ayto pou elega prin mines edw mesa..oti den mporei kai de prepei enas antrwpos na kanei oles tis douleies, den ginete.

ayth ti stigmi o aggelos den prepei na fygei, einai tetoia i fash pou pernaei i omada pou den tha kanei kalo i apoxwrhsh tou.
to idio isxuei kai gia ti dioikhsh.
etsi skata pou ta kanane ,na ta katharisoun prwta kai meta na fygoun.

[DIMIS]

re ÐÁÏÊôóÜêéá kai ti na kanoume tora na tous kraksoume olous na tous brisoume na tous plakosoume,,,,
afto den eine lisi,,
ekaname ena megalo la8os poly megalo pou mbori na mas stixisi to CL...
den to 1-2,,mou eixe eidi apogoitefsi ala otan akousa 0-3 logo ton paixti pou eitane to 2000 timorimenos..
kala pane kala entaksi h dikimas den to proseksane malakia,,
ala ti skata 8eli kai h UEFA exei perasi 4 xponia pane kala,,eprepe eidi na zbisti h pini apo monitis.....

den ksero an 8imaste ego 8imame tote to 1992 sto teliko europaiko kipelouxos tote eixe bali h stuttgardi enan 4arto kseno paixti mesa kai exase to mats meta apo tin UEFA..

den leo malakia me pirakse para poli ala ti na kanoume la8i ginonte..(pou den ei8ela na gini afto pote)....

tora na ka8isoume kai na brizoume tin omada mas kai tous paixtes mas den eine lisi,.,,.

pame tora stous ebreous na tous riksoume mia 5ara geia na to boulosoune oli,,,
afto 8a eine maggia,,,,

eide paokaraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[tiore2]

pame tora stous ebreous na tous riksoume mia 5ara geia na to boulosoune oli,,,
afto 8a eine maggia,,,,

eide paokaraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

nai magia tha einai sigoura, kai pios den thelei o PAOK na rixhnei 5ares kai 6ares alla pes mou..

meta ola tha einai wraia kai kala? mipws tha einai yperomada o PAOK?
i tha poume "ena lathaki egine perasmena-xehasmena"?

e telika o PAOKtsis den alazei, sa to lyko einai

[jmjyiannis]

Re paidia ti st odiaolo ginetai simera? ksafnika stamatisan oi ekselikseis? koubenta den akouo apo ta radiofona. Opoios kserei kati as pei.

[PAOK-1965]

Ela file Tiore polu agrios eisai. Kai bebaia den 8a einai ola kala. Einai h fush tou an8rwpou na mhn allazei eukola, den einai mono tou PAOKtsh. Sigoura 8elei tsampouka apo tous opadous gia na tous sebetai an oxi na tous fobatai ka8e doihkhsh, den eipame omws na tous sapisoume kai sto 3ulo. Arxizw omws pragmatika na pisteuw sth laikh bash akoma kai sto Elladistan. Egw pisteuw pws uparxoun atoma anamesa stous opadous tou PAOK pou einai ka8aroi kai me ti sumparastei olwn mporoun na anebasoun ton PAOK pshla ekei pou pragmatika anhkei. 3erw twra 8a me apokaleseis futo, lakama, aga8oulh alla ti na kanoume eimai romantikos  .

Telos pantwn ena 0-4 h 1-4 boulwnei stomata auto 8elw kai to pisteuw. Alla an den er8oun ta pragmata etsi giati den to 8elei h A8hna' h giati o Anastasiadhs den kounaei ta xeria tou opws prepei kai pali den 8a xa8oume opws 8a 8elane ta pswriarika skoulhkia. Egw 8a h8ela sto filiko tou Sabbatou me th Beroia na kateboun oloi oi PAOKtshdes sth Beroia na gemisoun to ghpedo kai na ntobaroun tous paixtes. OXI BRHSIDIA PLEASE... Telos pantwn eukolo einai gia mena na to lew pou eimai makrua. Den hr8an ta pragmata opws ta h8ela.


PAOKARA PANTOY KAI PANTA!

[bannon]

opos itan anamenomeno, i uefa anakoinose tin apofasi tis,
kai o agonas katakirothike me 0-3 stin maccabi.....

[DIMIS]

pame tora stous ebreous na tous riksoume mia 5ara geia na to boulosoune oli,,,
afto 8a eine maggia,,,,

eide paokaraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

nai magia tha einai sigoura, kai pios den thelei o PAOK na rixhnei 5ares kai 6ares alla pes mou..

meta ola tha einai wraia kai kala? mipws tha einai yperomada o PAOK?
i tha poume "ena lathaki egine perasmena-xehasmena"?

e telika o PAOKtshs den alazei, sa to lyko einai

file oti na gini me tin paokara emeis mia zwi paok 8a eimaste,,den leo to le8os eitane megalo kai bari ala afto den pai na pi oti 8a tin poulisoume thn omada,,,,,,
me tipota emeis 8a minoume mia zwi sto plebrotis.....

h paokara mas eine yperomada den xpiazene na riksi 5ares h 6ares,,,
ala 8a goustara na to gani mesa stous ebreous....
ola eine pi8ana,,,,

eide paokaraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[ksts]

chris kai HOMO  mpeite sto site
twn skoulikiwn kai peite ena mono prama:

MI GRAFETE KEFALAIA RE MALAKES,THA FATE BAN!!!


tiore2:Esi vgazeis simperasma apo tin agwnistiki
parousia tis omadas sto mats?Pisteveis diladi
oti den einai ikani i omada na paei sti lwrida
tis Gazas kai na valei 4 goals?Egw pistevw oti
mporei,giati mpala einai,stroggili einai,poutana einai.
To provlima to megalo pistevw einai to organwtiko.
Sta @@ mou to 1-2,eilikrina.Alla eniwsa prodomenos
apo tin apistefti malakia me ton Louka.
O opoios,metaksi mas,
san eppaggelmatias paixtis eprepe na thimatai oti den mporei
na paiksei kai na tous to elege.Meta as skeftotane oti ithele
p.x "se ti mpourdelo irtha,ti anorganwsia,aftoi einai entelws
malakes",alla eprepe na to thimatai.Exei ki aftos tis efthines tou.
Afto itane to piswgyrisma stin sigkekrimeni periptwsi,i malakia
me ton Louka.Oxi to 1-2 kai i agwnistiki parousia tis omadas.
Gnwmi enos fitou etsi?Pou pistevei oti tha pame gia 0-4!!
Ena score pou thimizei polla kai sta skoulikakia

[PAOK-1965]

Den xreiazontan na to anakoinwsoun. H UEFA den einai EPO otan lene Alfa enoounai ALFA. H EPO shmera leei 1=1 kai aurio leei 40=1. Auth h diafora Eurwphs kai Elladistan. Otan 8a ginoume pragmatika Ellas tote sa xwra kai sa laos 8a megalourghsoume. AEK xreei phgaine sth 4h na sumorfw8eis. Gaure ta spasane h opadoi sou sto Hrakleio to epomeno paixnidi sto Soufli. Telos pantwn ti na leme.

Eipame pame gia th megalh anatrwph.
As grapsoume tous allous st @@ mas kai na sumparasta8oume s'autous pou foroun th fanela tou PAOK.
Ane3arthta an tous lene Beckam h Atmatsidh (autos o pousths einai kako paradeiggma alla den mporw na katalabw giati ton xreisimopoise o Anastasiadhs. Ena apo ta agaphmana paidia ekeinou tou pousth tou Panagoulia. To 1994 sto Pagkosmio Kupello ths Amerikhs ekane eleu8ero apo th mikrh perioxh kai den eftane sto kentro tou ghpedou. Autos 8elei 3ekoliasma) arkei na matwsei th fanela sto ghpedo.

[tiore2]

@PAOK-1965
eimai kata tis vias aderfe, aporw pws evgales to simperasma oti epikrotw ta soutia...  lew oti tha pesoun soutia, auto den simainei oti ta epikrotw
an prepei na fygei o aggelos i opoiosdhopte na fygei opws irthe, den xreiazontai soutia, ektos kai an oi idioi perimenoun na fane soutia gia na analavoun tis eythines tous... elpizw na ginomai katanoitos-))

@ksts

pisteuw oti ehoume kapoies elpides alwste to grafw kai pio panw ... agwnistika o PAOK tha htan o idios me perisi an eihe ena stoixeio pou fetos den tha to ehei...kai milaw gia ton enthousiasmo, kai oxi mono auto alla ehei kai piesh apo panw pou perisi den thn eihe... pantws apo ayto pou eidame oloi ti trith mporoume deka fores kalitera estw kai etsi...
alla to zitoumeno den einai na perasoume stous omilous, kanonika den tha prepei na theloume na perasoume, afou den eimaste gia tetoia kolpa, ti douleia ehoume... to mono kerdos einai to oikonomiko, pou kai ayto den xeroume an mas vgei se kalo h an edraiwsei mia sapia katastash pou kata ti gnwmh mou yparxei ston PAOK. Entaxei ,prwth fora sto cl kai mi gnwrizontas an tha yparxei epomeni oloi thelame to kalitero apo ti stigmi pou mas dothike ayth i eukairia, oloi theloume ton PAOK  sta salonia kai sta megaleia tis eurwpis.

Gia ton louka lipame pou eheis authn tin apopsi, xanaskepou to ligo.... egw tha sou pw ena pragma...

an o loukas kai o kathe loukas enhmerwne gia tetoia themata, meta ti tha ginotane?
mipws tha perimenane stin pae na akoune apo tous paiktes pios einai timwrimenos kai pios oxi? Mipws tha htan akoma pio xyma oi ypaliloi ekei pera? den tha ginotane akomi pio erasitehniki i leitourgeia tis pae me ayton ton tropo?
milame gia paragmata pou stis sovares omades einai aytonoita... gia ayto milisa gia dolo tou anastasiadh otan kalese to louka, ayto itan megali ypokrisia kai farisaismos...

i douleia toy epaggelmatia paikth file ksts einai na na einai sinephs se ayto pou ypagrapse , na pigainei stin wra tou stis proponiseis kai tis ypoxrewseis tis omadas, na einai peitharhimenos kai hilia dio alla pragmata pou grafei ena simvolaio , gi auto plirwnete kai oxi gia na kaliptei pou kai pou kai otan xreiazete tin anorganwsia mias etaireias. Twra ston PAOK kalo tha einai me psila gramata na grafoun sta simvolaia ap edw kai sto exis oti o paikths einai ypoxrewmenos na enhmerwnei gia tyhon timwries tou tin omada....
ola ayta einai ergo anastasiadh, einai ta kala kai ta kaka tou aggelou pou leme edw kai kairo kai shedon kaneis den ta pisteue kai den ta katalavaine, i estw den ithele na katalavei kai na pistepsei... o tropos pou leitourgei o aggelos einai lathos , kai xekinaei apo lathos vash afou thetei ston eyato tou armodiothtes oi opoies den prepei na epwmizoun enan proponiti alla tous ypalilous mias pae.
panw ap olous omws ftaine oi dioikountes pou kanoun kopumanto kai  tous simferei olh ayth i katastash, afhnontas ta panta ston aggelo se periptwsh apotihias vgazoun tin oura tous ap exw, hdh gia tis metagrafes ti vgalane, gia to louka epishs simfwna me ti xtesini anakoinwsh... kai paei legontas...

[tiore2]

14 posts se mia mera +1 ayto 15, rekor ekana mou fenete...
maintanos ...itan na min xanarhisw na grafw-))

kleinw ta pcia loipon kai paw na xeirokrothsw ti gianna gia tin megali giorth pou organwsan oi ellines-alvanorwsoi-athinaioi.
to alvanorwsoi paei stous ergates pou douleuane... min parexigthw...

[PAOK-1965]

M'aresei to ufos sou Tiore me ekanes kai gelasa.
Den to ennoousa sthn kuriole3eia gia ths fapes.
O tropos pou prerigrafeis katastaseis mou deinoun thn entupwsei oti eisai dunamikos typos.
Sigoura to 3ulo bghke apo ton paradeiso (gia orismenes periptwseis)  .

Polu wraia ta les sthn sunexeia. Sumfwnw apoluta.

Eida ena ar8ro sto contra.gr kai o typos ta leei polu wraia epishs.

http://www.contra.gr/Column.aspx?ColID=9&ExtraID=1287

[PAOK-1965]

14 posts se mia mera +1 ayto 15, rekor ekana mou fenete...
maintanos ...itan na min xanarhisw na grafw-))

kleinw ta pcia loipon kai paw na xeirokrothsw ti gianna gia tin megali giorth pou organwsan oi ellines-alvanorwsoi-athinaioi.
to alvanorwsoi paei stous ergates pou douleuane... min parexigthw...

Kalh diaskedash!

[DIMIS]

elpida panta eiparxi kai antropes ginonte poles,,,

4 kai 5 mboroume na tous riksoume arki na ekmetaleftoume ths eukairies,,,,

eide paokaraaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[giwrgos4]

re magkes st @@ mas oloi re..k oi goumenoi k oi pae k oi aggeloi k oloi gmt...AN EXUNE arxidia oi pektes mas na pa na valoune 4 stous evreous k na klisoun stomata...m bgeni ka8e lagokota arianos k xanoumi na ironeuti....ANTE NA GM8UNE OLOI...PAOK RE KLISETE TOUS TA STOMATA REEE..

[tiore2]

Polu wraia ta les sthn sunexeia. Sumfwnw apoluta.

Eida ena ar8ro sto contra.gr kai o typos ta leei polu wraia epishs.

http://www.contra.gr/Column.aspx?ColID=9&ExtraID=1287

hairomai pou se ekana na gelaseis giati fantazomai to xreizosouna opws oloi mas-(

diavasa to arthro, kala ta leei alla mexri ekei pou milaei gia to paikth
re paidia, DEN LEITOURGOUN ETSI POUTHENA STO KOSMO OI EPAGGELMATIKES OMADES, ayth akrivws i nootropia pou ehei perasei kai mesw tou aggelou mesa stin omada odhghse se ayto to gegonos

kai na sou pw kai to allo?
eheis ena paikth elpidoforo, giati na ton kapseis? ti tha kerdiseis? mono metathesh eythinwn tha katafereis na petyheis...
entaxei mesa stin anampoumpoula na poume kai dio treis pente malakies, twra omws meta apo 2 meres tha eprepe na ta doume pio psihraima ta pragmata

[tiore2]

«Δεν είναι δυνατόν να μην γνωρίζει ο προπονητής ποιοι παίκτες είναι τιμωρημένοι και ποιοι όχι. Έπρεπε να το ψάξει. Και αφού δεν το έπραξε του αποδίδεται μεγάλο μερίδιο ευθύνης», τόνισε την Πέμπτη το βράδυ κορυφαίο στέλεχος της ΠΑΕ ΠΑΟΚ σε ανθρώπους του στενού του περιβάλλοντος.

apo kontra gia na mi mas zitane pneumatika

legete oti methodeuoun tin apomakrinsi tou aggelou siga siga...

den xeroume an einai ailtheia ola ayta, alla kalo tha einai na eimaste apo konta.

an prepei na fygoun kapoioi aytoi einai oi pagwnhdes kai oi hgoumenoi... an fygoun aytoi kai meta oristei nea dioikhsh tote ayth tha krinei an prepei i oxi na sinehisei.

eseis kiroi tis dioikhshs den eiste pou ta eihate dwsei en leykw ola ston aggelo? apo ta agwnistika mexri ta logistika? twra apo pou kai ws pou vgainete kai krinete pios ftaei kai pios den ftaiei?
esas pios tha sas krinei? nomizete oti me ena koloxarto tha ekviazete katastaseis kai enan olokliro lao?
gelasmenoi eiste, alaxane oi epoxes...

to sigouro einai oti i diafimizmenh oikogeneia texnikh hgesia- paiktes - proponitiko team tou PAOK espase se dio komatia...

aytes tis methodous mpatman den nomizw na tis faei omws o PAOKtsis xana... diwxnoume ton aggelo kai xekiname apo tin arxi? oxi re...eseis na fygete prwtoi kai meta vlepoume me ton aggelo, pou se teliki kai deka lathi na ehei kanei tha tou ta syxwresoume giati kata vathos oloi ton agapame akoma kai emeis pou tou ta xwnoume, esas omws den sas goustaroume giati eiste ena matso peinasmena fidia...ligourides e ligourides molis eidate oti to orama  gia ton neo sas PAOK me tis koutra metohes kai tin periousia tou AS katareei deixate poioi eiste pragmatika...

ps.as pei kai kanas allos re mages tipota reply ston euato mou kanw