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trelammenos

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1)epeidi h doihkhsh mas exei balei polloys se skepseis
2)epeidi den ta paei kala h PAOKARA
3)epeidi ayth h omada ma exei plhgwsei poly fetos

egw proswpika exw xasei mono 2 mats se mpala kai tha eksakolouthisw na phgainw giati paw gia ton PAOK kai gia kanenan allo

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Ego oute soura oute mastoura eimai pou pigeno sto gipedo...auti i omada dimiourgithike apo mia idiea kai auti i idea den tha pethanei pote otan o P.A.O.K. zei!!!exoume arketa problimata stin xoras mas apo to na asxoloumaste gia ton ipoloipo kosmo to an ginete polemos i oxi,autoi mia fora pote den tha endiaferotan gia emas!
Einai ta protima pleon pou pasaroun stous neous pou kanei tin toumpa kai genikotera ta gipeda na adiazoun....kai fisika einai kai auta pou eipe to karntasi o trelammenos.
P.A.O.K.ara eimai xare mou tin psixi mou pare mou...
P.A.O.K. zoume stin Poli na se doume...

trelammenos

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kai ennoeite opws leei opromitheas oti oute soura oute mastoura eimaste kai pame
kai sta club yparxoun xapakides,mastourwmenoi,piwmenoi ktl alla pali pate.
tespa to thema einai na gemizei h TOYMPA kai na kanoume mia kataplhkthkh atmosfaira

alessandro4

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fetos eimai para poly makria gia na parakoloytho ton PAOK , kai mporo na po pos moy exei stoixisei psilo.

ostoso exo ena filaraki apo ta liga poy den xanei mats apo ta entos kai sta ektos koybalithike idi se karaiskaki kai xanthi kai den thymamai poy alloy.

kai rotao loipon ton eayto moy AYTOS O ANTHROPOS GIATI PAEI OPOY PRAGMATIKA EINAI SE THESI NA PAEI?

nomizo pos ayti i erotisi gia ton antoni,  kai ton kathe antoni poy eimai sigoyros pos oloi xeroume apo enan , prepei na ypobaloyme ston eayto mas, gia na doyme pos tha mporesoume na apoktisoyme mia tetoia filosofia olo kai perissoteroi, poy tha kanoyn ton paok kinima, PAME STIN TOYMPA GIA TIN TRELA MAS.  foberi i omada (poy tha itane) fobero kai to gipedo (poy tha eixame) ,ma pio fobero apo ola re paidia einai na katalaboyme oti pame oloi sto gipedo gia na ekfrastoyme OLOI MAZI SAN ENA KINIMA PAOK,  ayto poy megalonei gera paoktsakia.
 

glykeria4

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Aleksandre,
 mhpws aytos o antwnhs einai kai apo bolo?
Thymamai pws mou milhse gia kapoion filo tou pou einai
Ollandia..
Spoudazei kai sto makedonias..?
An lene gia to idio atomo paei se ola ma ola ta mats...sxedon...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Elikrina ena apo ta liga atoma kai den einai o monadikos!
Eytyxws yparxoun akoma polloi pou sthrizoun thn omada kai exoun kathe dikaiwma na len :

Xiliometra Tha Kanoume Kai Pali Gia Na'Maste Stou Paok To Pleyro!Exeis Lao Palikaro Lebenth Alla Malaka Proedro
Kai ayta na mhn ta thymomaste mono se asxhma apotelesmata ths omadas!
EInai opws oi orkoi stous katholikous gamous: Mazi sta eykola alla mazi kyriws sta dyskola!
Kai ola ta alla (ektos sobarwn periptwsewn) einai dikaiologies!
Den xreiazomaste allothi gia na leipoume apo to pleyro ths omadas!
O kathenas kanei ayto pou nomizei swsto....An omws endiaferetai ontws na kanoume
kati kalo san PAOK tote ofeilei na einai sto ghpedo oso pio syxna mporei :)

giannis80

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Ma einai poli aplo.O PAOK exei alliothi san omada.Exei xasei ton xaraktira tou.Me allon PAOK mas megalosane oi paterades mas kai eidame kai meis ligo, kai allos einai tora.Kai den milao agonistika.Milao gia ton xaraktira os silogo.Tora vlepoume enan PAOK na skivei to kefali kai na troei karpazies.Tis dekaeties '70 kai '80, itane o epivitoras ton athinon pou kouvalouse xiliades lao apo piso.Den einai tixeos o imnos '' PAOK PAOK TREMOUN TO ONOMA SOU KAI STO PERASMA SOU TREMEI OLI H GH''.Tora.....se sinantiseis sto penteliko oi alloi pane me tis 500ares kai emeis me taksitzides.Fisiologiko, ta afentika exoun tis mercedes kai oi ipaliloi dinoun 15E sto taksi.

shaman4

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I toumba adeiazei giati o kosmos varethike ta idia kai ta idia.Apo voulino se batmanoudi kai meta goumeno-pagoni.

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Egw na thesw ena allo erwtima:
                GIATI KRYWNEI H TOUMBA?
ΠΑΟΚ ΘΡΗΣΚΕΙΑ ΤΡΟΜΟΚΡΑΤΙΑ

shaman4

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Vasika,to alhthino erotima tha eprepe na einai giati i toumba den adeiazei teleios..

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Vasika,to alhthino erotima tha eprepe na einai giati i toumba den adeiazei teleios..

To thema einai poios to kanei afto to erwthma Samane....

an to kanei kapoios pou den exei egkataleipsei ton agwna kai oute skopevei na to kanei asxetws ti tha akolouthisei tote thn erwthsh mporei (mporeis) efkola na thn apanthsei kai monos tou....

H Toumba den adeiazei giati den tha thn afhsei pote tou o idios na adeiasei, giati einai aseveia pros tis prohgoumenes genies PAOKtshdwn pou perasan apo ta tsimenta tou Syntrivaniou kai ths Toumbas. Gia aftous tous Anthrwpous kai PAOKtshdes me kefalaia grammata pou an emeis leme oti pername dyskoles meres (agwnistika), ti na poun ki aftoi pou kynhghmenoi hrthan sta ellinika xwmata kai sthriksan ton P.A.O.K. asxetws me poreies apotelesmata kai koupes exontas parallila na frontisoun kai gia thn idia thn epiviwsh th dikh tous kai twn oikogeneiwn tous!....asxetws me podosfairistes kai dioikhseis. Gia aftous tous anthrwpous pou ekanan 46 (!!) xronia na doun enan titlo, kai polloi den ton xarhkan pote. Ki omws htan ekei kathe kyriakh giati poly apla den mporousan na dianohthoun oti tha mporousan na kanoun kati allo, htan ekei eite o Dikefalos epaize sthn Toumba eite eksw, kai to eksw tote den mporei na sygkrithei se kourash - xrono - anesh me to shmerino thessalonikh - athina 4 wres....
Giati o Naos mas den xtisthke petra petra ap tous prohgoumenous gia na ton afhnoume emeis adeio....
Giati o idios den mporei na dianohthei ton eafto tou makrya alla kai oute thelei na to kanei giati tha nai sa na prodidei ton idio tou ton eafto, ta oneira pou ekane apo mikro paidi kai afta ta paidika oneira einai pou den ksethwriazoun kai den kserizwnontai  pote re pousth mou....
Giati tis megales agapes den tis eggataleipeis KYRIWS sta dyskola....giati o PAOKtshs einai gennhmenos agwnisths kai san agwnisths tha polemhsei kai tha pethanei gia thn idea tou. Den tha fygei apo to pedio ths maxhs htthmenos. Den tha gyrisei spiti tou ntropiasmenos xwris thn aspida tou.
Giati maxetai gia kati megalo, giati afta pou kryvoun ta 4 Grammata einai perissotera kai megalytera apo afta pou fanerwnoun ston kathe adah....
Giati h den agwnizetai ki o P.A.O.K. odhgeitai ston marasmo eite polema gia na dei enan P.A.O.K. mia mera opws ton thelei, kai tote perimenei sthn Toumba nikhths na dei tis fatses aftwn pou htan sth maxh apwn na to paizoun yperpaoktshdes dipla tou. Oi nikes exoun pollous pateres oloi omws kseroun poioi htan kata th diarkeia ths maxhs. Kai mono aftos me katharh th syneidish tou mporei pragmatika na einai perifanos kai mono aftos mporei na perifanevetai oti diathetei pragmatika kardia aetou....
Giati o kathenas mporei na exei allous tosous shmantikous gia ton idion logous pou kserei oti h thesh tou einai ekei....


Giati etsi ki alliws den einai kala sta myala tou....

Giati oi kanapedes den ftanoun gia olous ....

ADIAFORW GIA OTI KI AN LENE GIATI DEN KSEROUN TO PWS NIWTHOUME GIA SENA


(To parapanw keimeno mporei na thewrhthei kai ws ena eidos aftokritikhs mprosta sthn adraneia pou katevale tous perissoterous mas tis dyskoles aftes stigmes.
H katharsh mporei na erthei mono mesa apo agwnes. H pio megalh maxh einai panta h epomenh....
KSYPNA TON PAOKTSH POU KRYVEIS MESA SOU!!)

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Νομίζω φίλε πως τα είπες όλα και δεν υπάρχει καν χώρος για σχόλια στα όσα γράφεις.

Μπράβο.
ΒΑΡΙΑ ΤΟΥ ΠΑΟΚ Η ΦΑΝΕΛΑ!

BIANCONERO

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To thema den einai Alexi na parw mpravo gia merikes lekseis pou egrapsa edw mesa....einai to teleftaio pou me niazei.T
o thema einai kanontas oloi mas thn aftokritikh mas (prwtos ap olous egw) na syneidhtopoihsoume poioi eimaste kai ti ekfrazoume. Otan tha ksanaginoume megalos laos (pragma pou synepagetai para polla pragmata) tha doume ton P.A.O.K. ekei pou theloume, tha ksanazoume sthn Toumba stigmes pou anapoloume.

Londrezos

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Egw ayto pou 8elw na parathrhsw einai oti o shmerinos Paoktshs ths Toumpas me tis ateleiwtes pikres aksizei pio poly apo ton Paoktsh ths dekaetias 70 h 80...

aspromauri_athina

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Geia sas aderfia!! To giato adeiazei o NAOS mas den einai kati pou apantietai eukola. Oi logoi einai polloi kai einai xexorisstoi gia ton kathena. Allos varethike na vlepei ta oneira tou na ftanoun mexri tin tetarti thesi kathe xrono . Allos giati thelei na dei ena paixtara stin Toumpa na ton xesikosei me tis energeies tou . Allos giati thelei na einai se ena Gipedo pragmatiko me tis aneseis pou axizei kai oxi sta tsimenta (an kai gia mas stin 4 min trellathoume goustaroume na vlepoume ton Dikefalo akoma kai an kremomaste apo skouriasmena kagkela  :headbang:. Allos varethike na vlepei synexeia klaftes na erxontai stin dioikisi mas kai na mas ekmetalleuontai (s'auto exoume ki emeis tis euthines mas)
 To ti ftaiei loipon einai xexoristo gia ton kathena . To thema omos einai ena . Emeis prepei na eimaste dipla giati mesa paizei o Dikefalos , i aspromauri fanela o eautos mas diladi. Oxi o goumenos , o Frigker (re paidia mipos an pame pio polloi sto gipedo kai fonaxoume oloi mazi tha xypnisei?? xaxa!!) i o Aggelos.

BIANCONERO

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Apo ton PAOKtsh tou 50 kai tou 60 omws Londreze??
Ti na poun ekeinoi oi PAOKtshdes pou akolouthousan ton P.A.O.K. opou epaize kai den htan ths gkrinias kai twn radiofwnwn? (h tou internet!!)

(Asxeto alla sto grafw ki edw giati mallon den to eides sto topic me aek kai den apanthses....prospathousa na sou steilw gia meres  pm alla den ginetai!! O chris leei oti mallon exeis gemmato to inbox sou gia afto! Opote adeiase to an thes kai steile mou ena mhnyma!)

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Ãåéá óáò êáé áðü ìÝíá áäÝñöéá. Åßíáé ç ðñþôç öïñÜ ðïõ ãñÜöù. ¼ëá óùóôÜ áèôÜ ðïõ ãñÜöïíôáé åäþ ìÝóá. ¼ðùò êáé íá ôï äïýìå üìùò, ï êüóìïò Ý÷åé áðïìáêñõíèåß ãéá Ýíáí êáé ìïíáäéêü ëüãï: ¸ëëåéøç åðéôõ÷éþí. Äåí Ý÷ïõìå ïìÜäá êáé Ý÷åé ðåñÜóåé ðïëý êáéñüò áðü ôçí ôåëåõôáßá öïñÜ ðïõ åß÷áìå .Åãþ ðáñüëï ðïõ äåí åßìáé éäéáßôåñá íÝïò (31) æù ìå ôçí áíÜìíçóç ìéáò ïìÜäáò ìåãÜëçò ðïõ äåí ôçí Ýæçóá ðïôÝ, áõôÞ ôïõ ‘70….Êáé áõôü ãéáôß äåí âÜæù êáí ôçí ïìÜäá ðïõ ðÞñå ðñùôÜèëçìá ôï ‘85 ãéáôß êáé áõôÞ äåí åß÷å óõíÝ÷åéá. Áí äåí õðÞñ÷å êáé áõôÞ âÝâáéá ôï ðéï ðéèáíü èá Þôáí íá Þìïõí ößëáèëïò ôïõ êáíáðÝ .Ìå ôï äåäïìÝíï ðùò ìÝíù ÁèÞíá èá áéóèáíüìïõí üðùò ðåñßðïõ Ýíáò ðáíéþíéïò…Êáé êáôÜ êåé ðÜìå…
¼ëç ôç äåêáåôßá ôïõ 80 áðü êåêôçìÝíç ôá÷ýôçôá, ðÜíôá óôç óõíåßäçóç ôï êüóìïõ (ü÷é ìüíï ôùí ðáïêôóÞäùí, üëùí ôùí öéëÜèëùí, áëëÜ êáé ôùí media) o ÐÁÏÊ Þôáí ç ìåãÜëç ïìÜäá ðïõ áêüìç êáé áí äåí ðçãáßíåé êáëÜ, ðáñáìÝíåé ìåãÜëç. Êáé èõìÜìáé ðùò óå ñåðïñôÜæ ðïõ ãéíüôáí (üðùò êáé ôþñá ãßíïíôáé) óôéò áñ÷Ýò ôùí ðñùôáèëçìÜôùí ãéá ôï ðïéá ïìÜäá èá ðÜñåé ðñùôÜèëçìá, ïé ðñïâëÝøåéò Þôáí ðñïöáíþò ãéá ôïõò ôñåéò ôçò áèÞíáò (ìå äéáöïñåôéêÞ óåéñÜ êÜèå öïñÜ, áëëÜ ðÜíôá õðÞñ÷å êáé ôï ó÷üëéï ôïõ óôõë: «âÝâáéá äåí ðñÝðåé íá âãÜæïèìå Ýîù ôïí ÐÁÏÊ». ¸óôù êáé áí äåí ôï ðßóôåõå êáíåßò ðùò ìðïñïýìå íá êÜíïõìå êÜôé, äåí äéáíïïýíôáí íá ìçí áíáöÝñåé ôïí ÐÁÏÊ!
Ôþñá;;;; Ôþñá Ý÷ïõìå êáôáíôÞóåé ïé åíäéÜìåóïé áíÜìåóá óå áõôïýò ðïõ êÜíïõí ðñùôáèëçôéóìü êáé óôïèò ìéêñïìåóáßïõò. .Ìå ôçí ôÜóç íá êáôáëÞîïõìå óôïõò 2ïõò….Ðïéüò; ï ÐÁÏÊ!
Ôï ðñüâëçìá ëïéðüí åßíáé ðùò Ý÷åé áñ÷ßóåé íá ðåñíÜåé êáé óôç äéêÞ ìáò óõíåßäçóç êÜôé ôÝôïéï. Ìå ôé êÝöé èá ðçãáßíåé êÜðïéïò óôï ãÞðåäï, üôáí îÝñåé ðùò ôï üíåéñü ôïõ Ý÷åé üñéá;
Êáé âÝâáéá üëá áõôÜ åßíáé öáýëïò êýêëïò. Ôï íá ìçí ðÜìå óôï ãÞðåäï ïäçãåß óôï íá ÷Üíïõìå  êáé íÝïõò ïðáäïýò. ÁíÝêáèåí ÷áñáêôçñéóôéêü ôïõ ÐÁÏÊ Þôáí ðùò ïé ïðáäïß ôïõ- êáé êáôÜ â’ ëüãï ç ïìÜäá- äçìéïõñãïýóáí íÝïõò ïðáäïýò…(Äåí áíáöÝñïìáé óå åðåéóüäéá êáé ôÝôïéåò ðáðáñéÝò, áëëÜ óôï üôé åß÷áìå ãáìÜôç Ýäñá –ðçãáßíáìå ðáíôïý êëð)

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Με τι κέφι θα πηγαίνει κάποιος στο γήπεδο, όταν ξέρει πως το όνειρό του έχει όρια;


Swsto afto pou les....to thema einai pou vazoume emeis oria sta oneira mas. kai dystyxws mas mathan oti o skopos prepei na einai swnei kai kala enas titlos i mia eksodo ston katarameno gia to athlima tou podosfairou thesmo tou ch. ligk. gia afto kai ftasame na vasizomaste allwste se amfivolous "swthres" pou yposxontan ylopoihsh aftwn twn oneirwn mas. Anti na xtistei mia ygieis dioikhsh panw ap ola PAOKtshdikh, kai me ton kairo panw se swstes vaseis tha erxotan kai ola afta.

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Óõìöùíþ ðùò áí Ý÷ïõìå õãéåßò âÜóåéò èá Ýñèïõí êáé ïé ôßôëïé. Ïé õãéåßò âÜóåéò ðùò Ýñ÷ïíôáé üìùò;
¸÷ïõìå êáôáëÞîåé üëïé ðùò áõôü ðïõ óßãïõñá ÷ñåéáæüìáóôå åßíáé Üëëç äéïßêçóç. Ôé äéïßêçóç üìùò; Êáé áõôü ôï «ÐáïêôóÞäéêç» ðïõ åßðåò èá ìïõ Üñåóå êáé ìÝíá óßãïõñá ðÜñá ðïëý. ÁëëÜ ãßíåôáé;;

Áò ôá âÜëïõìå êÜôù íá äïýìå…ÈÝëïõìå ìéá äéïßêçóç ðïõ:
Á) Íá Ý÷åé ëåöôÜ (äåí íïìßæù íá Ý÷åé êáíåßò áíôßññçóç)
Â) Íá åßíáé üðùò åßðåò ÐáïêôóÞäåò
Ã) Íá ãïõóôÜñïõí íá áó÷ïëçèïýí ìå ðïäüóöáéñï (åßðáìå ôá âÜæïõìå üëá)
Ä) Íá ãíùñßæïõí áðü ðïäüóöáéñï! (Âáóéêüôáôï íïìßæù, ãéáôß áëëéþò Ýñ÷ïíôáé ôá ëáìüãéá áðü äßðëá êáé ôá ìáóÜíå êáíïíéêÜ!)

Åãþ ëïéðüí ñùôÜù: ÕðÜñ÷ïõí áõôïß; Ùò Üôïìá åííïþ…õðÜñ÷ïõí êÜðïéïé ðïõ ðëçñïýí  áõôÝò ôéò ðñïûðïèÝóåéò; Áí äåí õðÜñ÷ïõí ìÜëëïí èá ðñÝðåé íá áíáðñïóáñìüóïõìå ôéò áðáéôÞóåéò ìáò. Äåí îÝñù áí áêïýãåôáé èåùñçôéêü Þ äáóêáëßóôéêï áõôü ðïõ ëÝù, áðëÜ åííïþ ðùò áí äåí Ý÷ïõìå óôï ìõáëü ìáò ðñáãìáôéêÜ ôé ðåñéìÝíïõìå äåí ðñüêåéôáé íá Ýñèåé ðïôÝ…

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Kai na yparxoun den vlepw na asxolountai me ton PAOK...Toulaxiston etsi pisteuw parakolouthwntas ta dioikitika ta teleutaia 7 xronia

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DEN IPARXOUN KINITRA PAIDIA GIA NA TREXOUME TIN OMADA PALI SE KATHE PAIXNIDI...NA EIXAME DIOIKISI - PROPONITI - PAIXTES...KAI APO KOSMO ALLO TPT...ESTW KAI AN KANAME HTTES...APLA TOULAXISTON NA IPIRXE I ELPIDA GIA KATI KALO..MONAXA I ELPIDA..KAI PISTEYW OTI O KOSMOS TOU PAOK DIPSA NA MPEI STIN TOUMPA NA THIMITHEI TA PALIA..KAI TA PITSIRIKIA MALLON THA TO XOUN ONEIRO NA ZISOUN STIGMES PAROMOIES ME AYTES POU AKOUNE...APLA NA MAS KANEI I OMADA NA PISTEPSOUME SE AYTIN OTI MPOREI NA PROWTAGONISTEI...AS ELPISOUME KAAAPOTE THA GINEI KAI AYTO..